Goodell's Tenure as Commissioner (1 Viewer)

[MattFancy]

Pretty rough Grantand article on Goodell: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/what-does-it-take-to-get-roger-goodell-fired-2/

The NFL has never had less integrity than it does this week. It’s a low point for now, but who knows what will happen next to drag things a little closer to the gutter.

The only behavior this league polices effectively involves uniforms, celebrations, or marijuana testing that the rest of the country stopped caring about several years ago. Meanwhile, there’s still no HGH policy in place, head injuries remain a problem with no clear solution, domestic violence and offseason crime is an issue that’s not getting better, and as the league pushes for an 18-game schedule and a draft in late May, more people than ever wonder how much longer we can keep watching.

However you feel about football, there are big questions this league has to ask itself over the next few years, and it’s hard to believe Roger Goodell’s the right man to answer them. After almost a decade running the league, he’s getting worse, not better. He’s consistently two steps behind public opinion and miles away from ever actually solving anything.

Whether you’re talking about Rice or Goodell, Monday just made it harder to ignore things we knew all along.

Oh, and Hardy? On Sunday he had four tackles and a sack, and helped the Panthers defense harass Josh McCown all afternoon to take down the Bucs. There’s still no word on a suspension, but don’t worry. The league office recently sent a memo to the Panthers warning them that Greg Hardy’s face paint is a violation of NFL uniform policy.

The commissioner’s got things under control.

 

[Tango]

Newark Star Ledger:

Goodell: Come Clean or Resign

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/09/nfl_commissioner_roger_goodell_must_come_clean_or_resign_editorial.html

Not a columnist, but an editorial board from one of the more important papers (historically) that covers all things NFL.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Regardless of how long he remains, every day Roger Goodell is in office Paul Tagliabue's Hall of Fame candidacy becomes that much stronger.

 

[FUBAR]

Thread is ridiculous. Goodell has presided over the largest net increase in value within a sport (value of the sports teams) of any commissioner ever. Each team is now worth $1B+. He's proactive with almost every issue and resolves the ones that linger in a decisive manner. There's nothing to hate about this guy. You're just hating because you want to hate something. Grow up.

disagree on that, but agree on the rest. He screwed up. Nobody cared until it's literally in our face. It's amazing how easy it is to turn a blind eye to violence yet when we actually see it, we react. Give this a couple weeks. It will blow over unless the vocal minority keeps it an issue. Maybe instead of saving the ta-tas the NFL could do something for battered women.

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How did he screw up? They didn't have the video. He didn't get arrested and there wasn't conclusive evidence for what actually happened inside the elevator. Although it looked pretty obvious there was no smoking gun - no eyewitness and neither one of them copped to what actually happened.

What's he supposed to do? Given the evidence, he did act. Two games and Rice lost $500k. Any more would have been an overreach.

Obviously the person with the full video was holding out to sell it to the highest bidder. TMZ comes in, probably offers the guy $50k, then releases it.

Those conspiracy theorists out there that think they had the video the whole time are giving the NFL too much credit. They aren't some secret NSA/CIA organiziation with access to info much beyond what we have.

Maybe what I've heard is wrong, but if he didn't even try to get the video, that was a mistake.

If he tried and the security firm wouldn't give it up, while that would be surprising, ok.

The rules for suspensions were out of line. That's on Goodell.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Goodell is a terd

 

[Bruce Hammond]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Football more popular than ever = more $$$ in owners pockets than ever before = Happy Goodell-loving owners = Goodell gonna be around for long time!

 

[roadkill1292]

Football's problems are systemic in nature and much larger than one man, even if that man is the commissioner. Goodell is a despicable man but that's what the job description calls for.

 

[rockaction]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

Yeah, but that's taking all of the votes and adding them up. Around 60% of the respondents have actually said "business as usual."

 

[Doug B]

Football's problems are systemic in nature and much larger than one man, even if that man is the commissioner. Goodell is a despicable man but that's what the job description calls for.

Unless your point is that the "job description" has changed since then: guys like Pete Rozelle and Peter Ueberroth were never held in public contempt.

 

[dparker713]

Goodell is in trouble here. The NFL doesnt seem to realize Peter King is not the one covering them this time. The real media will not bend over the way that the sports media does.

And they'll be happy to pepper Roger Goodell and the NFL until kingdom come just for the sake of being a nuisance. Goodell, personally, cannot be worth the hassle to the 32 NFL owners, when other qualified folks could step in with a fresh slate and serve ably as comomisioner.

If they thought he was easily replaceable, they wouldn't be paying him 44 million a year.

 

[SacramentoBob]

For me it's not if, but when he gets fired. This is going to be a huge scandal for the NFL if they don't get in front of this right away. We KNOW there was a coverup. The video evidence existed. You have to be pretty naive to think that a multi-billion dollar organization like the NFL didn't, at the very least, know exactly what was on that video. They have legions of Mike Armentrout types on the payroll whose job it is to find out this kind of stuff. The NFL knew. Roger Goodell knew. The only question is, who goes down with him? Is Steve Bisciotti going down too? John Harbaugh? It's going to be really ugly.

This is now the second video coverup scandal in Goodell's tenure. Although some would like to sweep it under the rug, Spygate did happen. And Goodell was quick to destroy the evidence and try to get everyone to pretend like it was no big deal. We now know the type of lie Goodell is capable of, so it's pretty certain that the Patriots were complicit in a lot more cheating than was reported. What exactly happened in Super Bowl 36 that Goodell didn't want to get out? Will the Patriots win be vacated? This is the type of thing that goes to the very integrity of the game which is already on shakier ground lately because of the concussion issue. Is this going to be the chain of events that we look back on and say "that's what caused the NFL to lose its top spot in American sports"?

And when he does go, good riddance. At least we can get some sanity and consistency when it comes to enforcing NFL rules, not one guy shooting from the hip doing whatever he damn well pleases while pretending to act like it's in the best interests of the league.

 

[dparker713]

For those who think this blows over, you aren't seeing clearly.

This isn't a sports story, it's the OJ scandal now. The story will get beat to death until Goodell is fired. He's been a pompous ### and there's a lot of things to use against him. Some of his suspensions have been really harsh yet he's let numerous domestic violence cases go by with barely a reaction. When they start digging and bringing up Washington, etc and then start questioning why they didn't view the tape or if they are lieing, there is no defensible response either. They 100% had to find the tape and watch it.

I realize any business is PR but Goodell put on this Mr. Goodie Goodie persona that was cleaning up the game. I think it's pretty clear to most people now that he's fake and he's going to get dragged through the mud even worse for it. People love bringing down someone off their high horse. I was going across country and listened to radio all yesterday and it isn't pretty. It's also going to get uglier. He's done.

OJ Simpson, a sports icon, national endorser and movie star, was accused of a double homicide of his white wife and her white friend. Yeah, this ain't OJ.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Are the owners making more money? Guess what, that's Goodell's only real job.

Eh, not exactly. He builds and protects the brand. Brand value is more important than year-to-year profit. They are certainly connected, but he could make moves to increase the short-term profitability of the league but damage the brand and reduce value for the owners.

In the end he suspended Rice for the year. People can nitpick how he got there but he gave him the right punishment.

Just like that judge who eventually got around to giving that child rapist the right punishment after the uproar over the initial punishment.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Goodell is banned at Finn McCool's Pub.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/6adc567ed54734f0a99418409b18dca0/tumblr_mhd7n8vgmC1ra90n2o1_500.jpg

Spread the word.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Goodell is a serial liar and has been involved in multiple coverups/scandals and he's only been there 8 years. This guy is toast if the NFL wants to keep up its brand.

 

[roadkill1292]

Football's problems are systemic in nature and much larger than one man, even if that man is the commissioner. Goodell is a despicable man but that's what the job description calls for.

Unless your point is that the "job description" has changed since then: guys like Pete Rozelle and Peter Ueberroth were never held in public contempt.

Despite its ever growing popularity, the NFL also has a growing number of critics. Future commissioners will be subject to greater scrutiny than ever before. So far, commissioners have been able to hold up the league's commercial success whenever his performance has come under fire -- what happens when the growth inevitably stops and that excuse can't be used in negotiations with his employers?

 

[Tango]

Goodell is in trouble here. The NFL doesnt seem to realize Peter King is not the one covering them this time. The real media will not bend over the way that the sports media does.

And they'll be happy to pepper Roger Goodell and the NFL until kingdom come just for the sake of being a nuisance. Goodell, personally, cannot be worth the hassle to the 32 NFL owners, when other qualified folks could step in with a fresh slate and serve ably as comomisioner.

If they thought he was easily replaceable, they wouldn't be paying him 44 million a year.

He's certainly replaceable, but you have a point.

Let me ask you this:

If this stays on top of the news cycle and CBS or whomever does a poll this week that show 80% of women dislike Goodell and they splash it all over the CBS Evening News, does he keep his job?

Scenarios like this are definitely in play right now.

 

[Doug B]

Despite its ever growing popularity, the NFL also has a growing number of critics. Future commissioners will be subject to greater scrutiny than ever before. So far, commissioners have been able to hold up the league's commercial success whenever his performance has come under fire -- what happens when the growth inevitably stops and that excuse can't be used in negotiations with his employers?

Good question.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Goodell is in trouble here. The NFL doesnt seem to realize Peter King is not the one covering them this time. The real media will not bend over the way that the sports media does.

And they'll be happy to pepper Roger Goodell and the NFL until kingdom come just for the sake of being a nuisance. Goodell, personally, cannot be worth the hassle to the 32 NFL owners, when other qualified folks could step in with a fresh slate and serve ably as comomisioner.

If they thought he was easily replaceable, they wouldn't be paying him 44 million a year.

He's certainly replaceable, but you have a point.

Let me ask you this:

If this stays on top of the news cycle and CBS or whomever does a poll this week that show 80% of women dislike Goodell and they splash it all over the CBS Evening News, does he keep his job?

Scenarios like this are definitely in play right now.

This. Goodell watched a video of Ray Rice giving his wife a Mike Tyson uppercut and only thought that was a 2-game suspension.

 

[Doug B]

If they thought he was easily replaceable, they wouldn't be paying him 44 million a year.

Don't think his earnings establish all that much. YMMV.

I will clarify, though: "easily replacable" doesn't mean anyone can do the job. What I mean is I believe there are candidates out there, at the ready and prepared to run the league in a manner no worse than Roger Goodell has been doing. And for $44 million, I believe the league can do better.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Did I somehow miss the video of Roger Goddell beating the cold #### out of a woman in a casino elevator? The amount of vitriol currently directed at the guy is pretty surreal to me. Ray Rice is despicable. Roger Goddell hasn't exactly come off as a pillar of morality here, but don't think for a minute that "keep these guys on the field if possible" is coming from anywhere other than the owners. All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast. I'd also bet that a whole bunch of yesteryear's "great guys" and heroes were not exactly people you'd want your daughter to date -- the game and the players haven't changed, but the scrutiny is about 1000x more intense.

 

[dparker713]

Goodell is in trouble here. The NFL doesnt seem to realize Peter King is not the one covering them this time. The real media will not bend over the way that the sports media does.

And they'll be happy to pepper Roger Goodell and the NFL until kingdom come just for the sake of being a nuisance. Goodell, personally, cannot be worth the hassle to the 32 NFL owners, when other qualified folks could step in with a fresh slate and serve ably as comomisioner.

If they thought he was easily replaceable, they wouldn't be paying him 44 million a year.

He's certainly replaceable, but you have a point.

Let me ask you this:

If this stays on top of the news cycle and CBS or whomever does a poll this week that show 80% of women dislike Goodell and they splash it all over the CBS Evening News, does he keep his job?

Scenarios like this are definitely in play right now.

No public polling will matter.

It would take major sponsors threatening to leave before the NFL would take action. Even then, I'm not sure they'd cave. The NFL is the 1000 lbs gorilla of entertainment. Their ratings dwarf everything. SNF props up the corpse of an entire network fall lineup. The advertisers cannot replace the exposure the NFL provides. So sure, sponsors could threaten to leave, but would they really?

Its akin to sponsors threatening FIFA because of the corruption scandals. Sure, they threatened, but none of them did anything. The World Cup is just too big - it's bulletproof.

 

[Doug B]

All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast.

A lot of people think that these concepts are vital to the continuation of pro football. I, for one, don't belueve that. And the scrutiny you mention may serve as a surprisingly effective broom to sweep the sport cleaner than ever.

Again I ask: why must good athletes be bad human beings?

 

[dparker713]

Did I somehow miss the video of Roger Goddell beating the cold #### out of a woman in a casino elevator? The amount of vitriol currently directed at the guy is pretty surreal to me. Ray Rice is despicable. Roger Goddell hasn't exactly come off as a pillar of morality here, but don't think for a minute that "keep these guys on the field if possible" is coming from anywhere other than the owners. All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast. I'd also bet that a whole bunch of yesteryear's "great guys" and heroes were not exactly people you'd want your daughter to date -- the game and the players haven't changed, but the scrutiny is about 1000x more intense.

The San Diego Union Tribune has tabulated criminal actions by NFL players since 2000. Its probably incomplete, but its at 719 incidents.

 

[Tango]

He's certainly replaceable, but you have a point.
Let me ask you this:

If this stays on top of the news cycle and CBS or whomever does a poll this week that show 80% of women dislike Goodell and they splash it all over the CBS Evening News, does he keep his job?

Scenarios like this are definitely in play right now.

No public polling will matter.

It would take major sponsors threatening to leave before the NFL would take action. Even then, I'm not sure they'd cave.

The NFL is the 1000 lbs gorilla of entertainment. Their ratings dwarf everything. SNF props up the corps of an entire network fall lineup. The advertisers cannot replace the exposure the NFL provides. So sure, sponsors could threaten to leave, but would they really? .

You are likely correct and that he doesnt go. But I must say that I do not connect Goodell with the ability for the NFL to maintain/grow its ratings. If your commissioner is polling 80% negative in your biggest growth-demo and you want to grow revenue aggressively; then you probably need to make a move and let him go.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Did I somehow miss the video of Roger Goddell beating the cold #### out of a woman in a casino elevator? The amount of vitriol currently directed at the guy is pretty surreal to me. Ray Rice is despicable. Roger Goddell hasn't exactly come off as a pillar of morality here, but don't think for a minute that "keep these guys on the field if possible" is coming from anywhere other than the owners. All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast. I'd also bet that a whole bunch of yesteryear's "great guys" and heroes were not exactly people you'd want your daughter to date -- the game and the players haven't changed, but the scrutiny is about 1000x more intense.

So it's okay then because the owners?

 

[Todd Andrews]

Goodell is banned at Finn McCool's Pub.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/6adc567ed54734f0a99418409b18dca0/tumblr_mhd7n8vgmC1ra90n2o1_500.jpg

Spread the word.

lol. That is a great bar. Love going in there when I am in NO.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast.

A lot of people think that these concepts are vital to the continuation of pro football. I, for one, don't belueve that. And the scrutiny you mention may serve as a surprisingly effective broom to sweep the sport cleaner than ever.

Again I ask: why must good athletes be bad human beings?

Must be? No. I'd guess that there are roughly the same percentage of bad human beings in pro sports as there are in society as a whole, and just like in any sample of 1500+ random people, a decent sized chunk are gonna be folks that neither of us would care to hang out with. Stuff like domestic violence is waaaay more common than you might think -- most of it just goes unreported, unfortunately. I'm guessing that most of us know a Ray Rice or two personally or professionally --we just don't know what they do at home.

 

[cstu]

Did I somehow miss the video of Roger Goddell beating the cold #### out of a woman in a casino elevator? The amount of vitriol currently directed at the guy is pretty surreal to me. Ray Rice is despicable. Roger Goddell hasn't exactly come off as a pillar of morality here, but don't think for a minute that "keep these guys on the field if possible" is coming from anywhere other than the owners. All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast. I'd also bet that a whole bunch of yesteryear's "great guys" and heroes were not exactly people you'd want your daughter to date -- the game and the players haven't changed, but the scrutiny is about 1000x more intense.

So it's okay then because the owners?

What is ok - that Goodell is doing the job he was hired to do?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Did I somehow miss the video of Roger Goddell beating the cold #### out of a woman in a casino elevator? The amount of vitriol currently directed at the guy is pretty surreal to me. Ray Rice is despicable. Roger Goddell hasn't exactly come off as a pillar of morality here, but don't think for a minute that "keep these guys on the field if possible" is coming from anywhere other than the owners. All of the teams pay millions to dudes that are despicable. It's the nature of the beast. I'd also bet that a whole bunch of yesteryear's "great guys" and heroes were not exactly people you'd want your daughter to date -- the game and the players haven't changed, but the scrutiny is about 1000x more intense.

So it's okay then because the owners?

No, it's obviously not OK. But crucifying Goddell or using him as the public fall guy won't really help things either. Domestic violence is a pretty big issue that realistically needs to be addressed on a much higher level than a sports league. Personally, I think Rice should be in prison, which would make the Ravens' and the NFL's initial leniency pretty moot. If the league (or anyone else) wants to seriously address this issue, they should donate to the social service support systems for women, or push for tougher legal consequences. This sensational public outcry / creating a few visible fall guy type examples is both stupid and meaningless window dressing.

 

[Doug B]

No, it's obviously not OK. But crucifying Goddell or using him as the public fall guy won't really help things either ...This sensational public outcry / creating a few visible fall guy type examples is both stupid and meaningless window dressing.

You're not clear on why Goodell is getting heat.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

Yeah, but that's taking all of the votes and adding them up. Around 60% of the respondents have actually said "business as usual."

Now after 120 votes, almost 44% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes 25.44% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. There's nothing inaccurate about the way I'm saying this.

Yes, 56% say business as usual, but I'm honestly surprised the number is so low. When I set up the poll I imagined instead of 56% I'd see something more like 70-80%.

And this is a poll of hardcore male football fans primarily. If this were asked of the general public casual fans, including women, I think now the 56% would be below 50%. I'm not going to underestimate the power of public opinion here. I think Goodell could be in real trouble holding his job long term.

 

[justinl]

Are the owners making more money? Guess what, that's Goodell's only real job.

Eh, not exactly. He builds and protects the brand. Brand value is more important than year-to-year profit. They are certainly connected, but he could make moves to increase the short-term profitability of the league but damage the brand and reduce value for the owners.

In the end he suspended Rice for the year. People can nitpick how he got there but he gave him the right punishment.

Just so we're clear, do we expect DV to yield a year suspension now?

 

[rockaction]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

Yeah, but that's taking all of the votes and adding them up. Around 60% of the respondents have actually said "business as usual."

Now after 120 votes, almost 44% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes 25.44% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. There's nothing inaccurate about the way I'm saying this.

Yes, 56% say business as usual, but I'm honestly surprised the number is so low. When I set up the poll I imagined instead of 56% I'd see something more like 70-80%.

And this is a poll of hardcore male football fans primarily. If this were asked of the general public casual fans, including women, I think now the 56% would be below 50%. I'm not going to underestimate the power of public opinion here. I think Goodell could be in real trouble holding his job long term.

Yeah, I take all your points. They're good ones, IMO. The numbers are shifting from earlier in the day, which I thought had Goddell and "business as usual" as leading by quite a bit. And the bolded is certainly true. We're all generally huge fans of the product in the first place.

This has become more than football; it's now socio-political and very hot button, and you can never own the debate once it goes there.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Joe Paterno went down for what Sandusky did. Goodell is no different. He's going down and deservedly so. If they sit on this and let it become "Day 60 of Elevator Gate" on the evening news, they're in big trouble.

 

[fatness]

If this stays at the top of the news cycle then at some point he may be asked to go.

I agree. Team owners aren't going to wait until they see league and team profits dropping as a result of this; they're smarter than that. If there's continued bad press for the league, if players and coaches keep speaking out about Rice and Goodell, if fans remain upset about Goodell and the league, if it stays in the news, the owners will conclude the easiest way to end it is to send Roger packing with a huge severance package.

 

[gkza]

The owners should learn from Goodell's mistake. He should have put Rice down for good when he had the chance. Why risk any of this for a guy no one cares about? It makes zero sense at all. These guys are so detached from reality they did not see the hellfire coming down the pike.

Now the locusts that tore Rice apart are coming for Goodell.

So the owners will put him down and he will stay down. Thats the only way this thing goes away. The $ will continue to roll in.

The printing press will keep humming with or without Goodell. He's simply the face man of the crime syndicate.

 

[jonessed]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

Yeah, but that's taking all of the votes and adding them up. Around 60% of the respondents have actually said "business as usual."

Now after 120 votes, almost 44% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes 25.44% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. There's nothing inaccurate about the way I'm saying this.

Yes, 56% say business as usual, but I'm honestly surprised the number is so low. When I set up the poll I imagined instead of 56% I'd see something more like 70-80%.

And this is a poll of hardcore male football fans primarily. If this were asked of the general public casual fans, including women, I think now the 56% would be below 50%. I'm not going to underestimate the power of public opinion here. I think Goodell could be in real trouble holding his job long term.

Goodell was never that well liked around here. I think your poll has more to do with how Goodell has wielded power for the last eight years than anything having to do with Rice.

 

[voiceofunreason]

After 88 votes, over 40% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes about 23-24% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. Interesting.

I wonder if this small sample is fairly representative of the population at large.

Yeah, but that's taking all of the votes and adding them up. Around 60% of the respondents have actually said "business as usual."

Now after 120 votes, almost 44% think he will be out within 3 years, which includes 25.44% who think he'll be gone sometime before the start of next season. There's nothing inaccurate about the way I'm saying this.

Yes, 56% say business as usual, but I'm honestly surprised the number is so low. When I set up the poll I imagined instead of 56% I'd see something more like 70-80%.

And this is a poll of hardcore male football fans primarily. If this were asked of the general public casual fans, including women, I think now the 56% would be below 50%. I'm not going to underestimate the power of public opinion here. I think Goodell could be in real trouble holding his job long term.

Goodell was never that well liked around here. I think your poll has more to do with how Goodell has wielded power for the last eight years than anything having to do with Rice.

I think that's true but if you act like you are here to clean up the league, you better be beyond approach yourself. I always thought it was a big mistake for him to be involved in discipline directly. You leave it up to someone else who is out of the limelight but he seemed to want all the attention he could get. Plus you don't make so many enemies with the players. He's made himself a target and he's made a real bad mistake. I don't see the story going away as long as he's the commish. Whatever happens, it's his legacy now.

 

[ShamrockPride]

I'm not going to lie and I'm not going to expect everyone here to agree with me, but I'm sick of this doomporn against the NFL and Goodell I've been reading the past 48 hours.

Maybe it will result in Goodell's resignation, regardless and indisputably however, the NFL despite what anything you read says, the NFL is flourishing and growing at unprecedented rates. Anyone who says differently is an idiot, has an agenda, or is trying anything for article hits on their website. This one incident of this one commissioner will not change that, nor will it represent the league as a whole no matter how much the media wants it to.

 

[Bojang0301]

One could only hope for Goodell's resignation, unfortunately we'll probably get more cockroachmenship. He makes Bud Selig look like Patton.

 

[flapgreen]

Was bound to backfire on him at some point.

 

[flapgreen]

What is "doomporn?" RN?

 

[ShamrockPride]

What is "doomporn?" RN?

Doomporn you know..."ohhh my god it's the end of the world" or any microcosm thereof. End of, whatever you want. World, society as we know it, the US, or in this case, the NFL.

Mainly used in the conspiracy community concerning articles meant to get people scared or concerned about impending wars, societal downfall, cataclysmic celestial events, etc.

 

[cstu]

What is "doomporn?" RN?

Ask Ham.

 

[Slapdash]

Bob Kraft went on CBS and defended Goodell publicly.

SPORTS MEDIA: Points to this as proof that Goodell is safe b/c Bob Kraft carries so much weight within NFL ownership

NON-SPORTS MEDIA: Does not have such reverence for Kraft and they think Kraft sounds like an ignorant baffoon to defend the indefensible actions of Goodell.

Goodell is in trouble here. The NFL doesnt seem to realize Peter King is not the one covering them this time. The real media will not bend over the way that the sports media does.

They're the same damn companies.

 

[Max Power]

Sorry Gents, I haven't read 90% of this thread. So apologies if this is just repeated... I'm not a very vocal member of this website, but Goodell's actions are INEXCUSABLE. He is either a liar or incompetent. There is really no other option.

I wish the NFL media would hold his ### to the fire on this one... although I'm not sure that will ever happen.

I haven't hated Goodell since he took over, but the drug vs violence suspensions are totally off base. A change is needed. When TMZ is making more sense than the NFL reps... its time for a change.

 

[justinl]

Joe Paterno went down for what Sandusky did. Goodell is no different. He's going down and deservedly so. If they sit on this and let it become "Day 60 of Elevator Gate" on the evening news, they're in big trouble.

Lol, what? The two cases aren't even remotely close. Do you really think that Ray Rice is the first NFL player to beat his wife? Hell, he just reversed courses, and I'm pretty sure we'll see Rice back in the league by opening day next season.

 

[rockaction]

Null vote. Goodell and the NFL continue to get mired in scandals, lose credibility, but he stays on board as captain of the sinking ship for five to ten years too many. Like Stern in the NBA.

Wow. To real sports fans, the depths David Stern sunk to included the integrity of the games as honest games.

That's a pretty low bar.