Limp Ditka
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CHIBS!
AINT THAT RIGHT BRUCY BOY??!?!
AINT THAT RIGHT BRUCY BOY??!?!
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Gotham - a show about Batman without any actual uhhh...Batman (1 Viewer)
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apalmer
Footballguy
Probably already had legal advice that as a minor he couldn't validly enter into a contract, so whatever he signed was voidable as soon as he saw what Gallivan was offering.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Didn't see that coming. Bruce is pretty clever after all.
Also, liked the cliffhanger feel to the end of the episode, can't imagine what next week's cliffhanger is going to be.
Honestly, wasn't a fan of the past few shows, but loved the way it ended. I didn't care for the monks, but when they shows the previews of next week with all the folks teamed up, it looked great. The episode took a great turn with Bruce's scenes with Silver and Selena and I liked the Joker/Penguin stuff.
She is 100% smoking, but I hate the fight scenes with her when she beats up huge guys (compared to her) who have Navy Seal type backgrounds. That said, there is no doubt in my mind that she will turn on Galavan. They've been foreshadowing her not being happy with him a number of times now.Not to sound pervish but Silver is a pretty girl.
To sound houndish, was all hot and bothered by the Tabitha/Alfred fight. She's such a turn-on in whatever she does.
Another good episode.
FUBAR
Footballguy
after he came back to get Silver it was obvious that something was up. Don't recall adult Bruce wearing mittens.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Agreed but I didn't think he was up to pulling a con like that. I figured they were about to introduce yet another faction, or that it was somehow Galavan behind the scheme.
3C's
Footballguy
Had a feeling when they pulled up in the van with Silver in it he might have been up to something.
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Brady Marino
Footballguy
Chibbs being in Gotham means only one thing...
Riding through Gotham City, with an apple
SAMCRO is a shell, not worth the hassle
Chibbs got a job, kidnapping Bruce Wayne
His annunciation's better, he actually sounds sane
TWANG
Now he works for a homeless girl, for financial gain.
Riding through Gotham City, with an apple
SAMCRO is a shell, not worth the hassle
Chibbs got a job, kidnapping Bruce Wayne
His annunciation's better, he actually sounds sane
TWANG
Now he works for a homeless girl, for financial gain.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
So what did people think of the midseason finale? Galavan got kind of stale, and the whole St. Dumas thing felt forced and without much backstory, so I'm glad that's behind us. I'm not sure any of it was good, but at least now it's over. The kid Joker was probably the best part of season 2.
Also, Fox would save themselves a lot of eye-rolling if they didn't constantly tease the deaths of Gordon, Alfred, and Bruce. I was going to say especially Bruce, but we know all 3 live on. There's just no tension in these scenes -- kind of like when they "almost" killed Penguin last season. I guess you could say the same thing about Joker, and they did kill him, but there's literally 0 chance of Bruce dying. That's just not suspenseful.
Also, Fox would save themselves a lot of eye-rolling if they didn't constantly tease the deaths of Gordon, Alfred, and Bruce. I was going to say especially Bruce, but we know all 3 live on. There's just no tension in these scenes -- kind of like when they "almost" killed Penguin last season. I guess you could say the same thing about Joker, and they did kill him, but there's literally 0 chance of Bruce dying. That's just not suspenseful.
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snogger
Footballguy
I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
I'm a little afraid of that story line. Reminds me of the Fish and the body part experiments story line. If they are going to revive Galavan from the dead and turn him into a villain, then I am not sure I'll bother watching. I am cool with gamma radiation or some other funky science to give people "powers" but this show has at least been sort of grounded in normal humans/science and bringing people back from the dead jumps over the believe-ability edge.
Also, how was the head monk flying towards Gordon?
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I feel like they have beat us over the head with the "Will Jim Gordon cross the line" shtick. We get it. At this point, yes, he's willing to give up his morals. We've seen him do this a bunch of times, so him killing a helpless Galavan, while maybe shocking at a high-level, wasn't shocking at all based on what we've seen.I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
True, but I was still stunned when Gordon pulled the trigger. I don't know why I was expecting anything else to happen, but I was.I feel like they have beat us over the head with the "Will Jim Gordon cross the line" shtick. We get it. At this point, yes, he's willing to give up his morals. We've seen him do this a bunch of times, so him killing a helpless Galavan, while maybe shocking at a high-level, wasn't shocking at all based on what we've seen.I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
A couple of things did nag at me, though:
1. Alfred's escape at the dump reminded me of what The Walking Dead is doing with Glen. It seemed like there was no way he could come out unscathed but he did.
2. Kat seems a lot more clean/dolled up than I would expect for a kid living on the streets.
3. Once again, Penguin goes into combat without his #1 guy for this: Victor Z. I guess Victor's not supposed to be Penguin's flunky per se, but at the same time they already established that Penguin can call on him to do dirty work for him, and this would have seemed like a great time to call him in.
2. Kat seems a lot more clean/dolled up than I would expect for a kid living on the streets.
3. Once again, Penguin goes into combat without his #1 guy for this: Victor Z. I guess Victor's not supposed to be Penguin's flunky per se, but at the same time they already established that Penguin can call on him to do dirty work for him, and this would have seemed like a great time to call him in.
I speculated last season that the doc may end up as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl's mother. I'm starting to think I'm on to something.
FUBAR
Footballguy
True, but I was still stunned when Gordon pulled the trigger. I don't know why I was expecting anything else to happen, but I was.I feel like they have beat us over the head with the "Will Jim Gordon cross the line" shtick. We get it. At this point, yes, he's willing to give up his morals. We've seen him do this a bunch of times, so him killing a helpless Galavan, while maybe shocking at a high-level, wasn't shocking at all based on what we've seen.I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
A couple of things did nag at me, though:
1. Alfred's escape at the dump reminded me of what The Walking Dead is doing with Glen. It seemed like there was no way he could come out unscathed but he did.
2. Kat seems a lot more clean/dolled up than I would expect for a kid living on the streets.
3. Once again, Penguin goes into combat without his #1 guy for this: Victor Z. I guess Victor's not supposed to be Penguin's flunky per se, but at the same time they already established that Penguin can call on him to do dirty work for him, and this would have seemed like a great time to call him in.
On a different note,
I speculated last season that the doc may end up as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl's mother. I'm starting to think I'm on to something.
I speculated last season that the doc may end up as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl's mother. I'm starting to think I'm on to something.
1. yes, but that's somewhat expected
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
True, but I was still stunned when Gordon pulled the trigger. I don't know why I was expecting anything else to happen, but I was.I feel like they have beat us over the head with the "Will Jim Gordon cross the line" shtick. We get it. At this point, yes, he's willing to give up his morals. We've seen him do this a bunch of times, so him killing a helpless Galavan, while maybe shocking at a high-level, wasn't shocking at all based on what we've seen.I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
A couple of things did nag at me, though:
1. Alfred's escape at the dump reminded me of what The Walking Dead is doing with Glen. It seemed like there was no way he could come out unscathed but he did.
2. Kat seems a lot more clean/dolled up than I would expect for a kid living on the streets.
3. Once again, Penguin goes into combat without his #1 guy for this: Victor Z. I guess Victor's not supposed to be Penguin's flunky per se, but at the same time they already established that Penguin can call on him to do dirty work for him, and this would have seemed like a great time to call him in.On a different note,
I speculated last season that the doc may end up as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl's mother. I'm starting to think I'm on to something.
1. yes, but that's somewhat expected
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
Since Lee probably wouldn't agree to naming her child after Jim's fatal attraction, I would guess that Lee isn't around once the baby is born, either because she dies or gets abducted and never seen again.
FUBAR
Footballguy
True, but I was still stunned when Gordon pulled the trigger. I don't know why I was expecting anything else to happen, but I was.I feel like they have beat us over the head with the "Will Jim Gordon cross the line" shtick. We get it. At this point, yes, he's willing to give up his morals. We've seen him do this a bunch of times, so him killing a helpless Galavan, while maybe shocking at a high-level, wasn't shocking at all based on what we've seen.I see the "teasing of deaths" as more of character building.. We know Bruce and Gordan become stronger people in the future so I enjoy the "teasing" to show the becoming who they become.
Really enjoying this season so far and hope they can continue on with it.
A couple of things did nag at me, though:
1. Alfred's escape at the dump reminded me of what The Walking Dead is doing with Glen. It seemed like there was no way he could come out unscathed but he did.
2. Kat seems a lot more clean/dolled up than I would expect for a kid living on the streets.
3. Once again, Penguin goes into combat without his #1 guy for this: Victor Z. I guess Victor's not supposed to be Penguin's flunky per se, but at the same time they already established that Penguin can call on him to do dirty work for him, and this would have seemed like a great time to call him in.On a different note,
I speculated last season that the doc may end up as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl's mother. I'm starting to think I'm on to something.
1. yes, but that's somewhat expected
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
2. yes and a lot better fighter than she should be
3. agreed
it will be interesting to see why she (and Jim for that matter) would name their daughter Barbara.
Since Lee probably wouldn't agree to naming her child after Jim's fatal attraction, I would guess that Lee isn't around once the baby is born, either because she dies or gets abducted and never seen again.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I thought the first half of S2 was fine after the Jokerling got killed off. Every moment he was on screen,
I felt like I was watching campy Burton-Schumacher Batman, which I mostly hated. Thankfully, he had a
limited shelf life.
I wasn't a fan of how James Frain, an excellent actor, played Galavan; it was way too cartoonish.
However, there were enough fun moments to make up for any downsides. Anything with Bruce, Alfred, and
Selina is terrific.
I felt like I was watching campy Burton-Schumacher Batman, which I mostly hated. Thankfully, he had a
limited shelf life.
I wasn't a fan of how James Frain, an excellent actor, played Galavan; it was way too cartoonish.
However, there were enough fun moments to make up for any downsides. Anything with Bruce, Alfred, and
Selina is terrific.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
This show is maddeningly inconsistent. Even within the same episodes they have great scenes followed by ones that make me want to facepalm. The good stuff can be really good though, which will keep me watching.
One major improvement so far this year has been the Bruce storyline, I really like how quickly they are advancing his character.
One major improvement so far this year has been the Bruce storyline, I really like how quickly they are advancing his character.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Spot on. I really liked the Bruce/Silver stuff this week (a first) and I thought it was laid out and acted out perfectly. And then you have Selina taking out a monk like he was nothing. If that doesn't highlight the inconsistency (besides the monks being just sucktacular altogether) this show has, nothing else will.
But the biggest thing that bugged me about this season?
Two actors who played two of my favorite characters of all time and played roles in Gotham that weren't too far removed from said characters in some regards were completely freaking wasted. I love me some Vic Mackey (Michael Chiklis) and I love to hate me some Arvin Sloane (Ron Rifkin), but by the end of the finale, I wanted them both just aborted from the show completely.
Chiklis's character because he's just a pu##ified Mackey. Rifkin's character because dammit he deserves better.
I got one of my wishes, but not before Rifkin's character channeled the power of Neo from The Matrix in his jump...for some reason.
Maybe we'll get more Chibbs in the spring. That can only mean more chances for Sons of Anarchy theme song recreations...Gotham style!
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Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I thought Chiklis was used very well, but for me, a little bit of him goes a long way.
Agreed that Rifkin was a complete waste. He laughed all the way to the bank for that paycheck - - his part could have been
played by anyone.
Agreed that Rifkin was a complete waste. He laughed all the way to the bank for that paycheck - - his part could have been
played by anyone.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Chiklis- Maybe he's just always going to be Vic Mackey to me. I have a hard time seeing him as anyone else and his attitude in Gotham, minus the morality streak that he bashes you in the face with any chance he can, reminded me so much of Mackey. That hardass and a smartass attitude at the same time and incredulous looks he'd give to anyone or anything he didn't fully buy into. Mackey would have shot Galavan FOR Gordon. Gotham PD Chief says no. Ugh.
Rifkin- Hey, he's 76 years old and he's not been in a ton of stuff in recent years, so this was probably a victory lap for him.
Nope, different guys. The head monk was the guy who ran the agency in Alias with Jennifer Garner and also the dad in Limitless and Boiler Room. The old commish was definitely not him.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yuck, Jada Pinkett Smith is returning for a Fish Mooney arc.
http://tvline.com/2016/01/29/jada-pinkett-smith-gotham-returning-season-2-fish-mooney/
http://tvline.com/2016/01/29/jada-pinkett-smith-gotham-returning-season-2-fish-mooney/
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I think at the end of the last new episode before the break, we saw a glimpse of her frozen in a block of ice. I could be wrong, however.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
You can look in the thread, but Kodi and Exodus (program in Kodi) are also highly recommended.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Introduction of Mr. Freeze was decent; not bad, not great. The show needs more Bullock.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
Really liking the roll they're on. I think it looks like B.D. Wong was the right choice for Hugo Strange.
Also
Also
I didn't mind the Joker-like role Lori Petty played, as well as the scene with Gordon questioning her basically being a ripoff of the same scene from The Dark Knight. Also didn't think that Matches was really going to be the guy that murdered the Waynes, but it appears that he was, and I LOVED whole showdown between him and Bruce.
snogger
Footballguy
This season has been very good.. The Penguin manipulation was great.. Making the Doc feel he was "normal" and getting his release was done very well.. and as you said the meeting with Match was very well done also.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I don't know what they've done in the comics either, so I'm with you about Gordon; that was heavy stuff yesterday, though he's now been jailed twice in two seasons, so unfortunately I'm worried that he's not going to be locked up very long.
at last nights episode, mainly in regards to Gordon.. Since I'm not a comic book reader..
Did it play out that way in the Comic Books or did the writers just start a new path with Gordon?
It's silly of me but I got a little misty when Oswald's dad showed up. I don't think anyone but Paul Reubens could play him, so I'm glad they got him.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
A little clunky last night. Even though the time supposedly moved forward a few months, Gordon was still in jail for exactly 1 episode. Did like the casting of the warden, as he also had been one of the 'main' guards in Shawshank.
Also,
Also,
Anyone else find interesting Bullock's choice of words about Lee's pregnancy: "
They lost the baby." Maybe they'll circle back around to that, as I'm still holding out the thought that the baby is going to be named Barbara, leaving the possibility of Batgirl on the table.
They lost the baby." Maybe they'll circle back around to that, as I'm still holding out the thought that the baby is going to be named Barbara, leaving the possibility of Batgirl on the table.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Seems like the show kills off all the good characters too quickly.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
This thread is about as entertaining as the show. Yet I can't seem to quit it.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I've liked most everything about the show this season, with the exception of the Gordon storylines. The problem of course being that he's more or less the main character.
I think Nygma is the best character on the show so I hope they don't put him on the shelf for too long.
I think Nygma is the best character on the show so I hope they don't put him on the shelf for too long.
dparker713
Footballguy
I had absolutely no interest in the Penguin father stuff. And even before that the Arkham stuff was blah. I actually really enjoyed the one episode with Gordon behind bars, but I'm just about done with this show. I'll probably stick around for the finale this season and be done with it.
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