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[PatsWillWin]

Being born at the right time is a strange definition of "lucky."

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

What a joke.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

If they're trying to twist the knife, after they blindsided him and cost him millions by killing his leverage, this would be a good way to do it.

 

[Eephus]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

If they're trying to twist the knife, after they blindsided him and cost him millions by killing his leverage, this would be a good way to do it.

It's the network's brand, their IP. NBC claimed ownership of Larry Bud Melman and a masturbating bear. This is nothing by comparison.

 

[PatsWillWin]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

If they're trying to twist the knife, after they blindsided him and cost him millions by killing his leverage, this would be a good way to do it.

I think it would look petty and silly. People don't listen to the BS Report because of the brand name or anything - it's Bill Simmons saying Bill Simmonsy things with Bill Simmonsy guests and friends. Are they going to just roll out a random ESPN suit to talk about about 90210 or Vin Diesel's legacy? Makes no sense.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I hope he starts a new podcast, adds a Square Space add to his Stamps.com thing, and blasts Goodell for hours on end.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

So is he fired? Benched?

 

[tommyboy]

Is he dead yet?

 

[pollardsvision]

I recognize all the criticisms and acknowledge them as valid, but I still looked forward to all his columns. Maybe I'm an idiot who should go watch Fast and the Furious and listen to Nickelback, but I'm still a fan.

Yep. I'm too ignorant and indifferent to let Simmons' lack of technical skill and/or carelessness bother me. I like his stuff, so I read it/listen to it.

 

[pollardsvision]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

If they're trying to twist the knife, after they blindsided him and cost him millions by killing his leverage, this would be a good way to do it.

I think it would look petty and silly. People don't listen to the BS Report because of the brand name or anything - it's Bill Simmons saying Bill Simmonsy things with Bill Simmonsy guests and friends. Are they going to just roll out a random ESPN suit to talk about about 90210 or Vin Diesel's legacy? Makes no sense.

I haven't had the time to listen to any podcasts lately, but I did see "Bill Don't Lie" pop up, and wondered if maybe that was in preparation for a fallout with ESPN.

ESPN own "Bill Don't Lie", too?

 

[RUSF18]

I haven't been able to get through virtually any of his non NFL picks columns in years, but listened to all of his podcasts. Just always found them very entertaining even if I found myself calling him an idiot for his completely illogical views on things. Extra entertainment came when one of the only two guys who would call him out on his bull#### - Klosterman or House - were on. Klosterman would try to be nice about it and do it in a subtle way; House would basically call him an idiot.

 

[Billy Bats]

I haven't been able to get through virtually any of his non NFL picks columns in years, but listened to all of his podcasts. Just always found them very entertaining even if I found myself calling him an idiot for his completely illogical views on things. Extra entertainment came when one of the only two guys who would call him out on his bull#### - Klosterman or House - were on. Klosterman would try to be nice about it and do it in a subtle way; House would basically call him an idiot.

I go back to reading him when he was the Boston Sports Guy. But like you I've lost interest in most of his writing except for the NFL columns and mailbags. Having less than zero interest in the NBA certainly contributes to not reading him as much, but I do enjoy his podcasts still.

Amazing that he didn't secure the naming rights to the BS report or even grantland. I obviously have no idea how it works, but wouldn't he have secured some "ownership" rights in certain things like Grantland, BS Report and the 30 for 30s? Surprised that ESPN could just keep the BS Report going without the originator involved. (Terrible idea btw)

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

I haven't been able to get through virtually any of his non NFL picks columns in years, but listened to all of his podcasts. Just always found them very entertaining even if I found myself calling him an idiot for his completely illogical views on things. Extra entertainment came when one of the only two guys who would call him out on his bull#### - Klosterman or House - were on. Klosterman would try to be nice about it and do it in a subtle way; House would basically call him an idiot.

The B.S. Report was what got me into the podcast format. The casual long form is a great fit for Simmons. I can see how he thought his success as a podcaster would translate to TV talking head (and that's still where the serious money is) but the TV cameras just wash him out and make him look like an amateur.

 

[RUSF18]

I haven't been able to get through virtually any of his non NFL picks columns in years, but listened to all of his podcasts. Just always found them very entertaining even if I found myself calling him an idiot for his completely illogical views on things. Extra entertainment came when one of the only two guys who would call him out on his bull#### - Klosterman or House - were on. Klosterman would try to be nice about it and do it in a subtle way; House would basically call him an idiot.

I go back to reading him when he was the Boston Sports Guy. But like you I've lost interest in most of his writing except for the NFL columns and mailbags. Having less than zero interest in the NBA certainly contributes to not reading him as much, but I do enjoy his podcasts still.

Amazing that he didn't secure the naming rights to the BS report or even grantland. I obviously have no idea how it works, but wouldn't he have secured some "ownership" rights in certain things like Grantland, BS Report and the 30 for 30s? Surprised that ESPN could just keep the BS Report going without the originator involved. (Terrible idea btw)

I'm not sure how much he thought of it at the time, but he could have gotten investors and done all the hard Grantland work on his own but instead he chose or allowed ESPN/Disney to front all that money and risk and do it under their umbrella. I believe them allowing him to start of a site and invest in it was a key piece of him sticking around with ESPN during his last contract negotiation. I don't believe there's any way to "own" a piece of a site like that, beyond being contracted to get bonuses based on site metrics or revenues. Maybe he could have been given Disney stock but guessing that's it.

Compare it to what Nate Silver did. He started 538 on his own, licensed it to the NY Times, and then sold the brand to ESPN.

I haven't been able to get through virtually any of his non NFL picks columns in years, but listened to all of his podcasts. Just always found them very entertaining even if I found myself calling him an idiot for his completely illogical views on things. Extra entertainment came when one of the only two guys who would call him out on his bull#### - Klosterman or House - were on. Klosterman would try to be nice about it and do it in a subtle way; House would basically call him an idiot.

The B.S. Report was what got me into the podcast format. The casual long form is a great fit for Simmons. I can see how he thought his success as a podcaster would translate to TV talking head (and that's still where the serious money is) but the TV cameras just wash him out and make him look like an amateur.

He's also a very odd looking guy. Where the hell is his chin?

 

[roadkill1292]

If Carolla is being honest about his podcast profits, they are nothing short of astonishing.

 

[freeannyong]

Espn will definitely keep the BS Report name and also Grantland.

The same thing happen to The Basketball Jones when they went over to NBA. They had came up with the name, but the network they were on had ownership of it.

 

[GOB]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

Bruce Springsteen

Britney Spears

Barbra Streisand

Ben Stiller

Bart SimpsonBen Stein

Bob Sacamano

Bill Self

Brad Stevens

Biggie Smalls, RIP

 

[Cliff Clavin]

2M a year in profit? What?!

It's been reported that the Carolla podcast umbrella did $4.4MM in revenue last year and cleared $2MM in profit.

Where in the hell is the other $2.4MM going to???

 

[Sammy3469]

2M a year in profit? What?!

It's been reported that the Carolla podcast umbrella did $4.4MM in revenue last year and cleared $2MM in profit.

Where in the hell is the other $2.4MM going to???

Mangria?

 

[Sinn Fein]

If Carolla is being honest about his podcast profits, they are nothing short of astonishing.

Stampycat dude of minecraft fame, makes $250,000/month making minecraft videos....

 

[Sammy3469]

So no more Simmons podcast content coming I reckon.

ESPN is going to keep "The B.S. Report" name and is considering keeping it going with a new host or rotating hosts.

If they're trying to twist the knife, after they blindsided him and cost him millions by killing his leverage, this would be a good way to do it.

I think it would look petty and silly. People don't listen to the BS Report because of the brand name or anything - it's Bill Simmons saying Bill Simmonsy things with Bill Simmonsy guests and friends. Are they going to just roll out a random ESPN suit to talk about about 90210 or Vin Diesel's legacy? Makes no sense.

It's Simmons and the guests. I guess he'll lose the ESPN NBA guys (Windhorst, Lowe...until he moves over with Simmons, Ford...no big loss there, etc.), but frankly there are enough other interesting non-ESPN NBA guys out there like Haralabos that it won't be hard for him to find new talent.

That's really his biggest strength these days. Finding new talent and letting them find their footing and then do their jobs. Just compare Grantland to 538 and you can see how hard it is. Grantland/BS Report are unique properties because of Simmons ability to find/attract talent and ESPNs money/distribution. He can get the money/distribution elsewhere these days.

 

[roadkill1292]

If Carolla is being honest about his podcast profits, they are nothing short of astonishing.

Stampycat dude of minecraft fame, makes $250,000/month making minecraft videos....

That also sounds incredible but, to be honest, I don't really understand what you're saying. I just trust you a lot.

 

[culdeus]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

 

[Capella]

I would pay no money to watch a nude Bill Simmons dingle himself, thanks anyhow.

 

[Brony]

I enjoy both Carolla and Simmons podcasts. I feel like Carolla is consistently funny on his own and guests don't add much to the show. Simmons really relies on good guests and I think he creates a good dialogue which makes the show entertaining. It would be tougher for BS to pull off a daily format show because of this, or at least at the same quality of what we've been used to.

I don't follow the math on Carolla podcast being worth $4MM per year. If you add up all of the podcasts, stand up revenues, books, Loveline and Mangria... maybe. Just going on the brands that he pimps on a daily basis, I'd be surprised if they were 4MM.

 

[Eephus]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

 

[Jack White]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

Podcasting is a multi-taksing medium. You listen while you're doing something else.

 

[RUSF18]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

 

[RUSF18]

I enjoy both Carolla and Simmons podcasts. I feel like Carolla is consistently funny on his own and guests don't add much to the show. Simmons really relies on good guests and I think he creates a good dialogue which makes the show entertaining. It would be tougher for BS to pull off a daily format show because of this, or at least at the same quality of what we've been used to.

I don't follow the math on Carolla podcast being worth $4MM per year. If you add up all of the podcasts, stand up revenues, books, Loveline and Mangria... maybe. Just going on the brands that he pimps on a daily basis, I'd be surprised if they were 4MM.

He's stated many times that he would never be able to talk into a mic on his own for an extended period of time - thinks it's one of the hardest jobs out there. That podcast he did a few weeks back where he discussed his career path was by far the longest solo time he's ever done.

 

[facook]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

Yep. While working out, commuting, doing chores.

 

[Peyton Marino]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

Podcasting is a multi-taksing medium. You listen while you're doing something else.

I listen while I'm zoning out at work. Does that count?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

I enjoy both Carolla and Simmons podcasts. I feel like Carolla is consistently funny on his own and guests don't add much to the show. Simmons really relies on good guests and I think he creates a good dialogue which makes the show entertaining. It would be tougher for BS to pull off a daily format show because of this, or at least at the same quality of what we've been used to.

I don't follow the math on Carolla podcast being worth $4MM per year. If you add up all of the podcasts, stand up revenues, books, Loveline and Mangria... maybe. Just going on the brands that he pimps on a daily basis, I'd be surprised if they were 4MM.

IIRC the $4.4MM was the revenues for all of Carolla Digital: all of Adam's shows, Dr. Drew's, Adam's wife, Penn Jillette. I could see the ad revenue and affiliate marketing on those hitting $4.4MM. A well-organized Amazon Affiliate can clear six figures with an audience under 100,000, and Carolla Digital's audience has to be at least a couple million.

 

[Eephus]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

Yep. While working out, commuting, doing chores.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll tune in after I'm done listening to every piece of music ever recorded.

 

[rockaction]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

Yep. While working out, commuting, doing chores.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll tune in after I'm done listening to every piece of music ever recorded.

That and Shakespeare and political philosophy. I get what you're saying.

 

[Joe Summer]

Espn will definitely keep the BS Report name and also Grantland.

The same thing happen to The Basketball Jones when they went over to NBA. They had came up with the name, but the network they were on had ownership of it.

 

[Jack White]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

Podcasting is a multi-taksing medium. You listen while you're doing something else.

I listen while I'm zoning out at work. Does that count?

Absolutely!

 

[mphtrilogy]

The big question is cousin sal

He's an abc employee

Both owned by Disney

Hmmmm, will the cuz be blocked?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I enjoy both Carolla and Simmons podcasts. I feel like Carolla is consistently funny on his own and guests don't add much to the show. Simmons really relies on good guests and I think he creates a good dialogue which makes the show entertaining. It would be tougher for BS to pull off a daily format show because of this, or at least at the same quality of what we've been used to.

I don't follow the math on Carolla podcast being worth $4MM per year. If you add up all of the podcasts, stand up revenues, books, Loveline and Mangria... maybe. Just going on the brands that he pimps on a daily basis, I'd be surprised if they were 4MM.

IIRC the $4.4MM was the revenues for all of Carolla Digital: all of Adam's shows, Dr. Drew's, Adam's wife, Penn Jillette. I could see the ad revenue and affiliate marketing on those hitting $4.4MM. A well-organized Amazon Affiliate can clear six figures with an audience under 100,000, and Carolla Digital's audience has to be at least a couple million.

That seems more reasonable to me.

 

[RUSF18]

The big question is cousin sal

He's an abc employee

Both owned by Disney

Hmmmm, will the cuz be blocked?

I thought about that earlier. My guess is he'll still be on whatever podcasts he has, and he'll be plugging Kimmel but not his ESPN pick appearances (if those even keep up without the BS Report lead-in. He's had people from other networks/sites on plenty and as far as I know, ESPN only restricts their talent from appearing on WFAN radio.

 

[Brony]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

Yep. While working out, commuting, doing chores.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll tune in after I'm done listening to every piece of music ever recorded.

c'mon - it's like AM radio, but better! oh wait.

at the office I like to listen to music and when I'm driving or walking, I prefer podcasts.

 

[Jack White]

There's a ton of money to be made in streamers and podcasts. People steal music and TV but pay for streaming. It's odd.

I mean just go to the porn cam sites. Every second you have people throwing money at the girls. they could watch for free but they don't.

It's a huge market. Maybe not what ESPN paid him but it still could be huge.

I don't think I ever made it through a full Simmons podcast. They seem interminable to me and the target demographic has even shorter attention spans than I do. When do people have time to listen to a couple of guys talk for 45 minutes?

45 minutes is exactly how long it takes for me to walk out of my apartment, get on a bus through the Lincoln Tunnel, and walk from Port Authority across town to my office and up to my desk. Also how long I usually spend doing cardio at the gym.

Yep. While working out, commuting, doing chores.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll tune in after I'm done listening to every piece of music ever recorded.

I like music, too, so it's not an either-or choice for me.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Minecraft videos?

 

[culdeus]

Minecraft videos?

Some 10 year old got a 6 figure payout for rainbow loom DIY videos. There's cash out there to be made.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Minecraft videos?

Some 10 year old got a 6 figure payout for rainbow loom DIY videos. There's cash out there to be made.

The toy unboxers blow my mind too. Do you put that on your resume? What do you list as your profession come tax time?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I guess it's no more bizarre than 8,000 words comparing the characters from Beverly Hills, 90210 to the members of the 1987 Celtics.

 

[roadkill1292]

Did Simmons have it right that all you sports dorks in your forties are also watching reality tv?

 

[Sweet J]

Minecraft videos?

Yep. My kid watches them, along with Call of Duty videos.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I remember having to call a 900 number (with my parents' permission) to get a hint on how to beat an NES Metal Gear level. Times have changed.

 

[Brony]

Did Simmons have it right that all you sports dorks in your forties are also watching reality tv?

Who's got time for reality TV when we can waste time on Deadspin indulging in hours about how bad Simmons sucks?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Did Simmons have it right that all you sports dorks in your forties are also watching reality tv?

I don't watch any of the shows where they follow a family around with cameras or any of the dating shows. However, I share Grantland's passion for Real World/Road Rules Challenge. I follow that sport more closely than I follow NHL or NFL, and know more about the Challenge competitors than I know about most of my wife's relatives.

 

[freeannyong]

The challenge... So good