Mr. Pickles
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Simmons on TV is a mistake. He's just not a natural in front of the camera.
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Dought Man
Footballguy
Yeah...I can't seem him being asked back after this season. Magic Johnson and Wilbon look confused and frightened whenever he speaks. Funny thing is, he knows more about today's NBA than both of them combined. He just isn't made for TV.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I hope it'll work because I just like Simmons, but I doubt he stays either.
shadyridr
Footballguy
me too. im stunned by 3mil. i guess its cuz of the 30 for 30?
I doubt there's another ESPN personality that is anywhere close in terms of drawing an audience.
njherdfan
Footballguy
He's worth a lot more than that to ESPN because of how effectively he reaches ESPN's target demographic.dparker713
Footballguy
Thats ridiculous. I can't stand Reilly.'Ferris Bueller Fan said:
Getinthemix
Footballguy
I would like to know what Reilly's "target" audience is. He is horrid and so unbelievably full of himself it is nauseating.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Yeah, the issue with that show is not Simmons, it's Wilbon as host and then Magic is awful on TV. Always has been. Simmons is a great shake up for TV. A bit awkward in his delivery, but always insightful and often hilarious.'pollardsvision said:
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I think that's really the potential issue. Used to the columns and podcasts where he can over-analyze things to death and schtick it up from time to time, a 30-60 min. pre-game show is just not his style.Seems these shows have such a structured and mostly positive format, Simmons' wanting bounce around unfounded trade ideas seems out of place (even if entertaining for many, including myself).
Not that it can't work. The only other studio show I've seen, in any sport, that breaks well from the typical tired format is 'Inside the NBA'. But even there, the takes and segments seem very short. There's just a chemistry there that I haven't seen replicated anywhere else.
I'd love to see Simmons have a similar type of impact in breaking from the mold a little.
I don't hate Wilbon on there just yet. Stuffy Wilbon's got a chance to play the straight man to Simmons. He's no Ernie, but few are. I'd like to see them get someone else in there, but Wilbon might work. Of course, I'm confident they'd let Simmons go long before Wilbon.
For that show, I still think Rose, at the moment, is a bit of a problem. I like him, but he seems very awkward doing so many transitions between segments.
You'd think they'd let Wilbon run it and handle all/most transitions. See if Simmons/Rose can get a Chuck/Kenny thing going on (doubtful, obviously).
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The dads of people who read Bill Simmons.
bentley
Footballguy
Same thing here on Firefox.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Pierce is being unkind to rich sports franchise owners again today, this time the hockey cheeses. I like when Pierce is unkind to rich guys who own sports teams.
Did they write an article letting you know LeBron doesn't play for Cleveland anymore?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Speaking of which, here is an interesting follow-up with Joe Dudek, the small college RB that Rick Reilly voted ahead of Bo Jackson for the 1985 Heisman Trophy.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Reilly seems like such a tool.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
He's awesome.Their baseball guys are great too. Pierce is great. The TV stuff is pretty solid. Titus stinks and some of the pop culture stuff is a waste, but I can avoid that stuff easily enough.
Kev4029
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure than most of the non-Lakers/Knicks fans in the NBA thread know more about basketball than 10-15 GMs in the NBA. Not really much of an accomplishment. With guys like Bryan Colangelo, David Kahn and Billy King its hard to argue that it takes much basketball knowledge to become a GM. There are some guys that really know what they are doing (Presti, Buford, Kupchak, Ujiri and some others) but I think that the NBA is littered with teams that have terrible management. That said, Simmons does know as much about basketball as just about any writer out there.'shader said:
shader
Footballguy
Simmons will get a job one day for a couple reasons:1. He's talked about it for years. You can tell he really wants it.2. His fan base is the 20-45 market. That market adores him.3. That market is also (for the most part) too young to own teams. There are a few young owners, but not many. When a basketball lover that grew up on Simmons strikes it rich and buys himself an NBA team, he's going to hire Simmons. It's that simple.I've never read a writer that I thought could run a team. Peter King running an NFL franchise? Come on.But Simmons seems to understand the game as much as anyone. He'll get a shot if he really wants it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I dislike most espn "roundtable" shows but the NBA one he does with Jalen Rose & Mike Wilbon is pretty good.
Kev4029
Footballguy
If anybody thought McHale handed the Celtics a good team in the Garnett deal, wait until Simmons gets a hold of a franchise. I think he is too emotional to ever run a franchise. This is the same guy that had Jeremy Lin as the 34th most untradable player in the NBA (ahead of guys like Curry, Tyson Chandler, Ty Lawson) and Paul George 29th ahead of Harden and the others I mentioned. He buys way to into hype and I think he would constantly be making poor emotional choices.
Brony
Footballguy
He's smart and a good analyst, but he thinks too much about how things would be perceived and he can't be objective about any player that has played for Celtics or Lakers or any of their rivals.Joe Summer
Footballguy
Simmons will never get a job with an NBA team due to his association with gambling.
Also, he's pretty awful at evaluating prospects in his NBA draft previews as I recall.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Hey!
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I enjoy Simmons but he wastes way too much time writing about the NBA. I get pretty mad when his Friday picks column is an NBA story with his picks in a sidebar. 
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I seem to recall him trashing Ricky Rubio.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Zach Lowe would be better suited to running a team. So would Hollinger, who actually did just get hired by the Grizzlies.
Someone asked Harabalos if he'd ever want to be a GM, and he said he wouldn't want to take the pay cut. Awesome.
Someone asked Harabalos if he'd ever want to be a GM, and he said he wouldn't want to take the pay cut. Awesome.
His turn on the BS report was really good. If I'm remembering correctly. He had shuttle service at some airport in Canada. Making decent scratch. Was making good dough with his betting system on NBA games. Decided to let it all ride on I think the first Laker title-run with Phil Jackson. Made a killing and then had the capital to live the life.Definetly one to listen too.
He's also of the opinion that Harden is more valuable then Westbrook.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Simmons wrote a great article about Tyson, and how he really wasn't that great of a boxer considering all factors involved at the time. Ill try and find it.eta: My link
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Furious Styles
Footballguy
Norm MacDonald's writing is really good
Deepster
Footballguy
I still don't get Grantland. I haven't liked any of the other writers and while I did like Klosterman, it appears he's fizzled out of being a regular contributor. I can't gut my way through any Barnwell articles. I don't like Simmons' podcasts and his writing has really plateaued. It's a mailbag, a picks column and NBA stuff (which I'm not a fan of).His high point included his Vegas trips, Super Bowl weeks, running diaries and the like. I scan Grantland a few times a week and rarely finish any article. 
cobalt_27
Footballguy
I'm way on the opposite side. Enjoy everything about it. Intelligent, clever, thoughtful writing, particularly Barnwell's stuff.Suggest you just move on and find what is appealing to you.I still don't get Grantland. I haven't liked any of the other writers and while I did like Klosterman, it appears he's fizzled out of being a regular contributor. I can't gut my way through any Barnwell articles. I don't like Simmons' podcasts and his writing has really plateaued. It's a mailbag, a picks column and NBA stuff (which I'm not a fan of).His high point included his Vegas trips, Super Bowl weeks, running diaries and the like. I scan Grantland a few times a week and rarely finish any article.
I'll second this. He can even write about golf and make it entertaining.
Why is Carolla interviewing Tyson on the BS Report instead of on his own podcast?Probably the most intriguing interview I've ever heard with Mike Tyson.Adam Carolla helms the BS Report with an hour+ interview with Iron Mike. Fascinating.My linkA must listen.
Unedited version is running in carollas podcast next week. I'm waiting for that one.Why is Carolla interviewing Tyson on the BS Report instead of on his own podcast?Probably the most intriguing interview I've ever heard with Mike Tyson.Adam Carolla helms the BS Report with an hour+ interview with Iron Mike. Fascinating.My linkA must listen.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
That article is a testament to hindsight
