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Pats' Tapes Are Gone, But Questions Remain

By Gregg Easterbrook

Special to Page 2

Updated: September 27, 2007, 9:27 AM ET

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...5&sportCat=nfl

Reader Abhijit Kumbare of San Jose, Calif., writes, "It is very fishy that the NFL immediately destroyed all the evidence submitted by the Patriots." Steve Libenson of New York writes, "Consider what the press reaction would have been if David Stern had collected all the evidence about the ref altering games, then immediately destroyed that evidence without saying what it showed, and did so four days after going on national television and promising to get to the bottom of things."

Fishy, indeed. On Sunday, Sept. 16, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell went on national TV and promised he would get to the bottom of the Patriots' sign-stealing. Four days later, the NFL announced all videotapes and other spying materials compiled by the Patriots had been obtained by the league and destroyed. Goodell, who until then had been very upfront in addressing the Beli-Cheat scandal, didn't go back on television to say what the tapes contained; the commissioner has been in radio silence about the Patriots since the files arrived at the NFL's Park Avenue headquarters. The league acted in a hurry to dispose of damning documents, but has not revealed what was in the tapes and notes, nor said why there was a rush to get rid of them.

The lack of answers leaves several questions hanging out there. Chief among them: Is it possible the Patriots' tapes showed some evidence of New England cheating in a Super Bowl?

This weekend, in an e-mail exchange with NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, I asked twice whether the Patriots' documents contained evidence of cheating in the Super Bowl, and Aiello twice declined to either confirm or deny the existence of such evidence. The first time, he changed the subject with a detailed response about the original penalty; and the second time, after I protested he hadn't answered my questions, he replied, "I did answer your questions to the extent I'm going to answer them."

As a matter of logic, refusing to deny something is not the same as admitting it. But if the Patriots' tapes and documents contained no indication of cheating in the Super Bowl, it would be strongly in the NFL's interest to publicize this. Instead, the New England documents were shredded within roughly 48 hours of the NFL receiving them -- see timeline below. The rapid shredding occurred although Goodell said nothing about plans to destroy the materials when he was on national TV vowing his purpose was "maintaining the integrity of the NFL."

After Aiello twice declined to say what the Patriots' materials showed, I heard from him a third time Sunday. He wrote in an e-mail that my assumption the tapes contained indications of Super Bowl cheating is "wrong," then wrote, "There is no such evidence regarding the Patriots' Super Bowl victories." So, is this the denial that I've been seeking? But wait: Three days earlier, the NFL destroyed the evidence. I asked Aiello whether he meant there is no evidence now of New England cheating in a Super Bowl -- that is, after the destruction of the files -- or whether examination of the materials positively affirmed no cheating. He did not reply.

Aiello's "There is no such evidence" phrasing calls to mind what Richard Nixon's attorney general John Mitchell dubbed the "non-denial denial," an assertion that seems to say something but doesn't. On Sunday, I asked Aiello whether the league would make a simple, declarative statement that the spying files proved the Patriots did not cheat in a Super Bowl -- and have not heard back from him. I assume this is not because he has forgotten: I've heard from Park Avenue sources that the fact I am asking these questions is very much on the NFL's radar. I have known Aiello professionally for years and, like others who deal with him, have always found him skilled, knowledgeable and forthright. It's very odd to be getting a "non-denial denial" from him now.

I further asked Aiello who had examined the New England materials before they were destroyed, and he would answer only "senior members of the league office staff." I asked when the materials actually arrived at league headquarters -- How long were they there before being destroyed? -- and he would not answer. I asked whether the materials had been inspected by anyone conversant with the game plans and signals the Rams, Panthers and Eagles used against Bill Belichick's Patriots in the Super Bowl; football signs and terminology are cryptic, so it would help to have a skilled eye. Aiello wouldn't answer that. I asked who had ordered the tapes and notes destroyed, and he wouldn't answer that, either.

And I asked, if there was nothing incriminating in the New England documents, why was the league in such a hurry to shred them? First, Aiello wrote, "The purpose of destroying the tapes and related documents was to eliminate any advantage they might have given the Patriots going forward and ensure a level playing field for all 32 teams." But the league announced last week that the Patriots "certified in writing" that no copies of the materials exist. If the sole copies of the sign-stealing materials had been sent to the league office, it would be impossible for these materials to give the Patriots any advantage. When I pointed that out, Aiello countered that the reason for the destruction was "so that our clubs would know they no longer exist and cannot be used by anyone." Again, if the sole copies were being held by the league, how could any club use the material?

Aiello further said Tuesday Morning Quarterback was wrong to assert, in last Tuesday's column, that Goodell issued an "emergency" order on the morning of Sunday, Sept. 16, mandating New England turn over all illegally obtained videotapes and sign-stealing materials. Aiello explained Goodell actually issued that order Thursday, Sept. 13, but that the existence of the order did not become known publicly until the morning of Sept. 16, when it was reported by Chris Mortensen on ESPN. I regret the error.

Aiello said the heavy penalties assessed the Patriots on Sept. 13 were for "the totality of the conduct" in multiple instances of sign-stealing over several years, not for "one tape seized at the end of one quarter of one game," meaning the tape taken from the Patriots in their season opener at the New York Jets.

It is unclear why, if Goodell on Sept. 13 issued an order for the surrender of all New England spying tapes and materials, the league said nothing about that directive at the time. More important, come Sunday night, Sept. 16, Goodell told Bob Costas of NBC that the Patriots had not yet complied with the order that we now know was issued Thursday and that he would "absolutely" impose additional penalties on the Patriots if they did not comply promptly. This means there were at least 72 hours in which New England was failing to abide by a high-profile direct order from the commissioner of the NFL -- and in that time was doing with its spying materials, well, lord knows what.

Here is a timeline of events so far:

Sunday, Sept. 9: During the Patriots-Jets season opener, security officers seize a video camera a team official on the New England sideline was using to film signal-calling on the New York sideline. NFL rules forbid filming the opponents' sideline or recording opponents' signal calling. Clubs had been reminded of this prohibition by a strongly worded directive sent from league headquarters in September 2006.

Thursday, Sept. 13: Commissioner Goodell declares the Patriots guilty of "a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field." He imposes on New England the strongest penalty in NFL history: loss of a first-round pick (if the Pats make the playoffs), or second- and third-round choices in the 2008 draft (if New England fails to reach the postseason); a $500,000 personal fine against Belichick; and a $250,000 club fine. Goodell orders the Patriots to turn over all videotapes and other materials obtained in violation of NFL rules, although this part of his decision is not publicly announced.

Sunday morning, Sept. 16: On ESPN, Chris Mortensen reports Goodell's directive that the Patriots surrender all videotapes and notes containing cheating materials.

Sunday evening, Sept. 16: On NBC's "Football Night in America," Goodell says New England has not yet complied with his order to surrender all illegal materials, adding the Patriots will be penalized more if the materials don't arrive soon.

Monday, Sept. 17: Asked whether he will surrender videotapes and notes to the league, Belichick answers, "Of course." Asked by The Boston Globe whether NFL headquarters has received the Patriots' materials, Aiello answers, "We don't have anything else on the matter to report right now."

Sometime between Monday night, Sept. 17, and Thursday afternoon, Sept. 20: The New England materials arrive at league headquarters.

Thursday night, Sept. 20: The NFL announces all of the Patriots' materials have been destroyed, disclosing nothing about their contents.

The history of scandals teaches us that when the point is reached that everything has come out, then the principals apologize in public and tell all. When the point has not yet been reached that everything has come out, there is usually stonewalling, denial and weird Nixonian/Clintonesque statements. The destruction of evidence and the lack of answers about what the evidence contained, leaves me wondering if there is something very important about the Patriots' spying scandal that has not yet come out.

And if you're tempted to say, "Gregg, at worst this is just cheating in some dumb football games," here's why the affair matters: If a big American institution such as the NFL is not being honest with the public about a subject as minor, in the scheme of things, as the Super Bowl, how can we expect American government and business to be honest with the public about what really matters?

 
Where was the interview with Jimmy Johnson in that article? HMMMMMMM who's not being straight. News Item: Big Buisness and the Gov't has RARELY been straight with the public; now there's a shocker!!!!!

 
Where was the interview with Jimmy Johnson in that article? HMMMMMMM who's not being straight. News Item: Big Buisness and the Gov't has RARELY been straight with the public; now there's a shocker!!!!!
They spent more time investigating PacMan than this.
 
Didn't they say in the MNF game that the league found that the materials did not give the Pats an advantage and that the matter was closed?

 
I agree the way the whole thing was handled inclines me to believe there was much more to the cheating than the NFL has let on. However, what if they did cheat in the Super Bowls? Now what? Do you put an asterisk next to them? Do you replay them - that'd be kinda hilarious.

I honestly always thought it a bit strange that the year nationalism in the U.S. hits a new peak, all of the sudden the PATRIOTS win the Super Bowl? Not only that, but it was very very very clear in the playoff run that the refs favored that Pats. Too much coincidence?

Interestingly, the Pats have soundly beaten their opponents this season, as if to eliminate any doubt that the reason they were winning was due to the cheating. Yet go back and look at the film... the refs again are clearly favoring NE.

Maybe it's all a big conspiracy. Maybe not. One thing is certain, Goodell would definitely NOT release ANYTHING that would tarnish the image of the NFL. And so, if those tapes did provide clear evidence the PAts cheated to win - Goodell would be conspirator #1 in a cover up.

 
Come on. Do you expect satisfaction from anyone or anything? From the top down... El Presidente et al all the way to our national pastime. No such thing as "fair" in this country. If someone says otherwise there's a good chance they're lying. Then again there's no such thing as truth over here anymore.

sorry--- I'm just bummed about LaMont, that's all.

 
And if you're tempted to say, "Gregg, at worst this is just cheating in some dumb football games," here's why the affair matters: If a big American institution such as the NFL is not being honest with the public about a subject as minor, in the scheme of things, as the Super Bowl, how can we expect American government and business to be honest with the public about what really matters?
:goodposting: :tinfoilhat: It is just cheating in some dumb football game. Anyone here believe that Belichick's actions influence government policy?

 
Didn't they say in the MNF game that the league found that the materials did not give the Pats an advantage and that the matter was closed?
Of course they said that. What would you expect the league to say? "Hey everybody, our league's a farce, and the Patriots have been big-time cheating their way to championships, and this is how..."?If you didn't think it was a big deal in the first place, that's one thing. But, please tell me it wasn't this particular statement that put your mind at ease.
 
It was a very "neat and tidy" way of the NFL trying to put the issue behind them...it is in the interest of the league to NOT have a major scandal. Both the league and the almighty Pats have something to gain by this going away quickly. :goodposting:

 
It was a very "neat and tidy" way of the NFL trying to put the issue behind them...it is in the interest of the league to NOT have a major scandal. Both the league and the almighty Pats have something to gain by this going away quickly. :excited:
:thumbup: And I am a Pats fan BTW.
 
Maybe it's all a big conspiracy. Maybe not. One thing is certain, Goodell would definitely NOT release ANYTHING that would tarnish the image of the NFL. And so, if those tapes did provide clear evidence the PAts cheated to win - Goodell would be conspirator #1 in a cover up.
:thumbup:
 
All this conspiracy theory stuff assumes there was something there because it's fun to stir something up.

They said there was nothing and well that just isn't so fun to chat about as ya can't work up theories over it at all.

It's a good thing Easterbrook didn't mention those tapes hidden in the leg of the church pew. At least now, we can still debate this in the future when someone stumbles across those.

 
Let it go. This is the single most overblown story in a long time. Every team does this stuff, the Patriots got caught doing something that likely had very little (if any) impact on the result of games.

 
So we have NFL reps that are refusing to comment on a witch hunt that everyone wants to put behind them. So by refusing to comment there is the logic that "hey, stop feeding the animals and they will stop begging for scraps". That hasn't worked though.

By saying nothing, they are in fact saying everything? Oh, okay. I get it now. :goodposting:

Perhaps they are not commenting on it because every comment gets twisted and turned to suit whatever point someone is trying to make. This article is a perfect example ... the absence of any comment must mean there is a cover up.

No ... it is not a different horse, it is the same old horse that is being beat and being beat with the same stick.

 
Did anyone see the Parcells/Steve Young back and forth during the pre-game last night?

Young accused Parcells of opening the end zone doors at the Meadowlands whenever the 49ers were attempting FGs - Using the wind to throw off kicks. And then closing them when the Giants were kicking.

Parcells shot back that it was common 49er tactics to script the first 15 plays of a game, then have SF falsely claim that their communications system was faulty so that both teams didn't have headsets for much of the first quarter.

Maybe we should just call it the *NFL from now on...

:lol:

 
I agree the way the whole thing was handled inclines me to believe there was much more to the cheating than the NFL has let on. However, what if they did cheat in the Super Bowls? Now what? Do you put an asterisk next to them? Do you replay them - that'd be kinda hilarious.

I honestly always thought it a bit strange that the year nationalism in the U.S. hits a new peak, all of the sudden the PATRIOTS win the Super Bowl? Not only that, but it was very very very clear in the playoff run that the refs favored that Pats. Too much coincidence?

Interestingly, the Pats have soundly beaten their opponents this season, as if to eliminate any doubt that the reason they were winning was due to the cheating. Yet go back and look at the film... the refs again are clearly favoring NE.

Maybe it's all a big conspiracy. Maybe not. One thing is certain, Goodell would definitely NOT release ANYTHING that would tarnish the image of the NFL. And so, if those tapes did provide clear evidence the PAts cheated to win - Goodell would be conspirator #1 in a cover up.
:rolleyes: Jeebus, this is silly.

Hey, by the way, where were the Twin Towers located or the Pentagon? Boston? Gee, you would think if the NFL would have helped the NEW YORK Jets win. You do realize that the Jets finished 10-6 to the Patriots 11-5 and both teams made the playoffs. What better story after 9-11 for a New York team to win it all conjuring up the magical Joe Namath (pre-drunken stooper about kissing Suzy Kolber, :) , still makes me laugh) Super Bowl win.

I love a conspiracy that needs 2 game winning FGs from 40+ yards. Thank goodness Vinatieri was in on it.

 
The reality is that if the Pats were cheating during their Superbowl run and the tapes proven it the NFL would wan this to go away very fast.

The Pats would not be the Dynasty that the NFL has touted them to be, but instead just a bunch of cheats.

This is very similar to yo studying your ### off to get a good grade in a class, and then finding out later that other students were cheating.

 
And if you're tempted to say, "Gregg, at worst this is just cheating in some dumb football games," here's why the affair matters: If a big American institution such as the NFL is not being honest with the public about a subject as minor, in the scheme of things, as the Super Bowl, how can we expect American government and business to be honest with the public about what really matters?
:rolleyes: :) It is just cheating in some dumb football game. Anyone here believe that Belichick's actions influence government policy?
:thumbup: I do. Well, maybe. Sports are good for the economy and moral of the country. So, if the government felt that they needed to step in in order to secure the legitimacy of the sport they would (a la the whole MLB steriod issue).

 
I wouldn't exactly call it a "great" article. It presents nothing new. It is just rehashing the same stuff that's been known for weeks.

Nothing to see here, move along.

 
NFL's Stance = All the new tapes neded to be destoryed to ensure that teams could not gain an advantage from them. However there were no signs of cheating on these tape, therefor a team could not gain anything from watching them, and that is why they were destroyed. :goodposting:

 
Where is that great article your title describes?
My apologies......I thought it was thought provoking.Some seem to agree and some do not, which is fine.I just have some doubts that the whole story is known and the NFL imo.......has not acted 100% appropriately.
 
The article was published last week when it was a little more timely.

Still think the Patriots cheated.....and I am a hater....just hate them more now.

 
The history of scandals teaches us that when the point is reached that everything has come out, then the principals apologize in public and tell all. When the point has not yet been reached that everything has come out, there is usually stonewalling, denial and weird Nixonian/Clintonesque statements. The destruction of evidence and the lack of answers about what the evidence contained, leaves me wondering if there is something very important about the Patriots' spying scandal that has not yet come out.
Nobody has a plausible answer for why the evidence was destroyed, including the league. Did they destroy all evidence on Paul Hornung, Michael Vick, etc.? The league could keep that information as long as they want, as safely as they want. They deliberately made it unavailable to everyone. Who would want it? Reporters, plaintiffs in civil suits, prosecutors, and defense attorneys.
 
As a :shrug: :dolphinsfan: :bag: I bet that they destroyed those tapes 'cause they showed how the dadgum Pat's committed holding on their way to the Superbowl.

Yeah...yeah, that's it.

They were holdin'....

Oh, and they were committin' pass interference...ALL the time...THEY WAS CHEATIN'...no doubt about it...

Ohh, and YEAH, THESE TAPES were the ones that threatened the conspiracy because these showed how they got away with that damn 'TUCK RULE' to get into the first SB they won anyway.

Yeah, that's the ticket...

:thumbdown:

 
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Look I hate the Patriots and root for them to lose every game, but this is just stupid. The main problem with almost all conspiracies is that too many people would have to stay mum to keep it secret. And that never happens in real life. Even Watergate, the biggest conspiracy we've ever had, was quickly revealed because there were so many leaks.If the Pats really had cheated, they would have been exposed long before now. Nope they're just a fine organization, and I damn them to Hell...

 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.

J

 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
 
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Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
Are you serious? I think this is all tinfoil hat nonsense anyways, but those are some mighty fine rose-colored glasses you've got there. They destroyed them so no third party would be able to see them. Well, at least that's what everybody thinks.
 
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Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
I thought the NFL said there was nothing the Pats could have gained from these tape... No extra punishment...but yet the tapes had something on them that needed to be destroyed.Also why is a signed letter from the Pats good enough for the NFL to ensure there are no more tapes? Isnt that like a judge saying if a criminal promises not to do it again, he can go free?
 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
The fact they destroyed them so quickly makes everyone think they contained incredibly damning evidence. There is a HUGE negative to giving the "sweep it under the rug" impression of destroying quickly and then clamming up and not talking about. The only reason most people think you do that is if letting a 3rd party see the tapes is a worse situation.J
 
The history of scandals teaches us that when the point is reached that everything has come out, then the principals apologize in public and tell all. When the point has not yet been reached that everything has come out, there is usually stonewalling, denial and weird Nixonian/Clintonesque statements. The destruction of evidence and the lack of answers about what the evidence contained, leaves me wondering if there is something very important about the Patriots' spying scandal that has not yet come out.
Nobody has a plausible answer for why the evidence was destroyed, including the league. Did they destroy all evidence on Paul Hornung, Michael Vick, etc.? The league could keep that information as long as they want, as safely as they want. They deliberately made it unavailable to everyone. Who would want it? Reporters, plaintiffs in civil suits, prosecutors, and defense attorneys.
 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
Are you serious? I think this is all tinfoil hat nonsense anyways, but those are some mighty fine rose-colored glasses you've got there. They destroyed them so no third party would be able to see them. Well, at least that's what everybody thinks.
Yeah, everybody in on the conspiracy want you to wear our glasses. Shhhhh.
 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
I thought the NFL said there was nothing the Pats could have gained from these tape... No extra punishment...but yet the tapes had something on them that needed to be destroyed.Also why is a signed letter from the Pats good enough for the NFL to ensure there are no more tapes? Isnt that like a judge saying if a criminal promises not to do it again, he can go free?
I think you are confused.
 
Good post. I'd agree with Easterbrook here. It's pretty disappointing to me how the league handled this. Rushing to destroy tapes like this looks like a clear "sweep it under the rug" deal. But it'll work for the league. Because people have an attention span of about 48 hours. So in the end, it works for the them. But it's disappointing to see them do this.J
Maybe it's the homer in me but from what I understand they reviewed the tapes and destroyed them after NE signed a statement confirming there were no other copies. It seems smart to destroy the tapes to ensure the footage never lands in the hands of anyone who could use it again. I don't understand why its perceived as an assist in covering anything up.
I thought the NFL said there was nothing the Pats could have gained from these tape... No extra punishment...but yet the tapes had something on them that needed to be destroyed.Also why is a signed letter from the Pats good enough for the NFL to ensure there are no more tapes? Isnt that like a judge saying if a criminal promises not to do it again, he can go free?
I think you are confused.
I might be, but feel free to clear this up for me. Did any of the additional tapes have anything on them that would give the Pats an advantage? If Yes, why didnt the NFL punish them further, like the Commish said he would? If No, why were they destroyed?
 

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