2025 Footballguys Bowl Shark Pool Dedicated Leagues Sign-up! (3 Viewers)

[Pigskin Fanatic]

I see Joe already weighed in and said the team is willing to do the extra work for trades. I don't really care either way, but that's a lot of extra work. I mean, I have one league I commish and trades are tehsuck especially if it doesn't favor me. This falls in the be careful what you wish for category. Appreciate the consideration though, it would add a fun dimension. but man, can't even begin to imagine the kind of complaints you will get over it during the season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Do I need a sleeper account to signup for a draft?

You’ll need one to draft anyway so might as well sign up. It’s free.

 

[joey]

Everyone check your e-mail. There is a survey about allowing trades.

I would be against trades. I’ll have to hit up the survey.

Replies to survey with Against Trades (but not the Strongest Against since it’s not a total deal breaker for me)

 

[BassNBrew]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

 

[TheWinz]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

Come on dudes! The folks in here are probably all going to be in only 8 of the hundreds of leagues. If you are in a league with 11 other SP regulars, do you think a trade is going to be that lopsided? No way! Sure, if trades are allowed, I expect very lopsided trades to go through, but making the playoffs shouldn't change for the 8 or so SP leagues. I just wanna play against a bunch of SP regulars, because I never have. I wanna kick the butts of guys like you and @barackdhouse. Who cares about the finals?

 

[BassNBrew]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

Come on dudes! The folks in here are probably all going to be in only 8 of the hundreds of leagues. If you are in a league with 11 other SP regulars, do you think a trade is going to be that lopsided? No way! Sure, if trades are allowed, I expect very lopsided trades to go through, but making the playoffs shouldn't change for the 8 or so SP leagues. I just wanna play against a bunch of SP regulars, because I never have. I wanna kick the butts of guys like you and @barackdhouse. Who cares about the finals?

The 6th place finish kind of spoiled me. Last year I played it kind of safe to have a respectable showing. Goal this year is overall title or bust.

The other issue is that time is limited. The return would have to exceed the value of time spent tinkering on the Subscriber contest. I enjoy that contest far more than anything except chasing a 3-peat for Footballguys in the Interboard Challenge.

 

[jm192]

Just clarifying: It says Sleeper e-mail. You want the actual e-mail we signed up for sleeper with and not just the Sleeper account name?

 

[barackdhouse]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

Come on dudes! The folks in here are probably all going to be in only 8 of the hundreds of leagues. If you are in a league with 11 other SP regulars, do you think a trade is going to be that lopsided? No way! Sure, if trades are allowed, I expect very lopsided trades to go through, but making the playoffs shouldn't change for the 8 or so SP leagues. I just wanna play against a bunch of SP regulars, because I never have. I wanna kick the butts of guys like you and @barackdhouse. Who cares about the finals?

I've been down this road before and not worth my time. I don't think it's gonna be a problem though my guess is the survey will slam the door shut on trading. Appropriately.

On the "who cares about the finals" line - is that schtick or are you serious? I can't tell. I would never want to play in a league with someone who doesn't actually care about trying to win. You know why? Because I already have. Many times. It isn't a new experience nor is it one I'm interested in. I don't *think* you're saying that but it does kind of read that way. And if there are many people in the contest that don't care, then I'm even less interested.

It's ok if we disagree about trading but my position is that trading in these FBG leagues would be a gigantic lack of judgement by the contest designers and I'm kind of shocked it's even being discussed. I really don't think you understand how bad this can be, and I am not trying to be dramatic or difficult. It just really is a dealbreaker for me and I think it should be for you or anybody in this thread.

This isn't about "c'mon guys don't be downers about this we're trying to have fun" - this is about "you're trying to build something that is destined to fail and fail big". Again it's ok if we disagree but try not to make it about me and the attitude you perceive. I want to play. Really.

 

[TheWinz]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

Come on dudes! The folks in here are probably all going to be in only 8 of the hundreds of leagues. If you are in a league with 11 other SP regulars, do you think a trade is going to be that lopsided? No way! Sure, if trades are allowed, I expect very lopsided trades to go through, but making the playoffs shouldn't change for the 8 or so SP leagues. I just wanna play against a bunch of SP regulars, because I never have. I wanna kick the butts of guys like you and @barackdhouse. Who cares about the finals?

I've been down this road before and not worth my time. I don't think it's gonna be a problem though my guess is the survey will slam the door shut on trading. Appropriately.

On the "who cares about the finals" line - is that schtick or are you serious? I can't tell. I would never want to play in a league with someone who doesn't actually care about trying to win. You know why? Because I already have. Many times. It isn't a new experience nor is it one I'm interested in. I don't *think* you're saying that but it does kind of read that way. And if there are many people in the contest that don't care, then I'm even less interested.

It's ok if we disagree about trading but my position is that trading in these FBG leagues would be a gigantic lack of judgement by the contest designers and I'm kind of shocked it's even being discussed. I really don't think you understand how bad this can be, and I am not trying to be dramatic or difficult. It just really is a dealbreaker for me and I think it should be for you or anybody in this thread.

This isn't about "c'mon guys don't be downers about this we're trying to have fun" - this is about "you're trying to build something that is destined to fail and fail big". Again it's ok if we disagree but try not to make it about me and the attitude you perceive. I want to play. Really.

I am 100% against trading in this contest, as is literally every SP regular who has responded. I am also 100% in favor of playing against FBG shark poolers. My home leagues suck! If we lose a bunch of SP regulars because trading is allowed, that will blow! If trading is allowed, the SP leagues don't stand a chance in the finals, because stupid lopsided trades won't happen. The first place team will come from the crappiest league where insane trades go unchecked.

If trading is allowed, can I switch over and not be a part of the SP leagues?

 

[Scoresman]

I agree and it's enough to make me not want to be involved. Trading in something like this is a really really bad idea. Headache City.

Just sign up for one of the Shark Pool leagues and hope for the best. Please don't bail because of trading.

It's a deal breaker

I finished 6th overall last year and upon further reflection, I think I'll sit this year out if the trading is allowed. Just not worth the time investment when the playing field is even further tilted. Now maybe FBG comes up with way to may trading equitable within the Bowl and I change my stance, but I honestly don't see a path short of chaining @Joey Wright to a computer for 5 months.

Come on dudes! The folks in here are probably all going to be in only 8 of the hundreds of leagues. If you are in a league with 11 other SP regulars, do you think a trade is going to be that lopsided? No way! Sure, if trades are allowed, I expect very lopsided trades to go through, but making the playoffs shouldn't change for the 8 or so SP leagues. I just wanna play against a bunch of SP regulars, because I never have. I wanna kick the butts of guys like you and @barackdhouse. Who cares about the finals?

I've been down this road before and not worth my time. I don't think it's gonna be a problem though my guess is the survey will slam the door shut on trading. Appropriately.

On the "who cares about the finals" line - is that schtick or are you serious? I can't tell. I would never want to play in a league with someone who doesn't actually care about trying to win. You know why? Because I already have. Many times. It isn't a new experience nor is it one I'm interested in. I don't *think* you're saying that but it does kind of read that way. And if there are many people in the contest that don't care, then I'm even less interested.

It's ok if we disagree about trading but my position is that trading in these FBG leagues would be a gigantic lack of judgement by the contest designers and I'm kind of shocked it's even being discussed. I really don't think you understand how bad this can be, and I am not trying to be dramatic or difficult. It just really is a dealbreaker for me and I think it should be for you or anybody in this thread.

This isn't about "c'mon guys don't be downers about this we're trying to have fun" - this is about "you're trying to build something that is destined to fail and fail big". Again it's ok if we disagree but try not to make it about me and the attitude you perceive. I want to play. Really.

I am 100% against trading in this contest, as is literally every SP regular who has responded. I am also 100% in favor of playing against FBG shark poolers. My home leagues suck! If we lose a bunch of SP regulars because trading is allowed, that will blow! If trading is allowed, the SP leagues don't stand a chance in the finals, because stupid lopsided trades won't happen. The first place team will come from the crappiest league where insane trades go unchecked.

If trading is allowed, can I switch over and not be a part of the SP leagues?

Or...We could organize and use the SP leagues to send mega teams to the finals in the name of the SP.

Each SP league chooses one team to load up with studs via lopsided trades.

It would be awesome!!!!

Right?


...


See why trades are a bad idea...?

 

[TheWinz]

@Joe Bryant
Not a single person in the the Shark Pool is for trading in this format, including your very own @Joey Wright who is running this thing. How many more negative comments do you need to squash trading? Sure, people wanted it last year, but they didn't take into account how easily lopsided leagues would get without constant oversight. Once again, NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE SHARK POOL IS IN FAVOR OF TRADING, NONE, NADA! Read this thread.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Do I need a sleeper account to signup for a draft?

yes.

 

[BassNBrew]

opps

 

[miqws]

I voted no trading. In this format, if I started 0-4 and had a ton of injuries, I would be inclined to take massive risk and home run swings to try to save the season. Usually these risks do not pay off but you have nothing to lose. Meanwhile, whomever receives the trade may end up with a monster team. The chances of all that are low but in this format, it is going to be tried numerous times. People know this, so now even more trading and risks take place. I’d avoid the mess.

Last year was fun - everyone in the league was around 0.500 late in the season. Oh, and thanks for doing this - it is my only redraft league these days. Might be worthwhile to get ADP off the drafts and maybe an article or live forum discussion on team construction.

 

[Dacomish]

I didn't get a survey e-mail either...

 

[Pickle Rody]

I did get the survey and voted accordingly.

Just wondering.....couldn't the link to the survey be posted in this thread for those that want to vote but did not get the email? @Joey Wright ?

 

[Joey Wright]

Just wondering.....couldn't the link to the survey be posted in this thread for those that want to vote but did not get the email? @@Joey
Wright
?

Speak of the devil and he shall appear! Although, I'd recommend checking your spam folders!

LINK TO SURVEY

 

[Golden Gopher]

I've signed up to compete in the leagues again, but didn't get a survey. And, when I look on the Sleeper app, the field for "Email" is blank. I've tried to add an email address several times, but the code that Sleeper is supposed to send never arrives to the email in question (and I've tried multiple emails). That said, hopefully I'm on the list.

For what it's worth, I agree with the sentiment that trades in this format can do far more harm than good.

 

[Joe Bryant]

@Joe Bryant
Not a single person in the the Shark Pool is for trading in this format, including your very own @Joey Wright who is running this thing. How many more negative comments do you need to squash trading? Sure, people wanted it last year, but they didn't take into account how easily lopsided leagues would get without constant oversight. Once again, NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE SHARK POOL IS IN FAVOR OF TRADING, NONE, NADA! Read this thread.

Thanks. I've read the thread. Honestly, a little insulting assume I'm not reading the thread.

And I'm reading the survey.

We're working really hard to bring this contest to everyone (including doing the work to make a special exception for the Shark Pool) and make it as good as we can.

I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than saying I'll take a second look at this.

Thanks. We'll take a look at the trades.

@Joey Wright has been not in favor but I've been in favor. Primarily because we had tons of people asking for them as trading is a huge part of the fun. And some of our primary competitors allow them in their contests.

I think it's a big distinction that this isn't a high stakes NFFC league with thousands of dollars on the line. This is a fun league.

But I hear folks and we'll take a second look.

 

[TheWinz]

@Joe Bryant
Not a single person in the the Shark Pool is for trading in this format, including your very own @Joey Wright who is running this thing. How many more negative comments do you need to squash trading? Sure, people wanted it last year, but they didn't take into account how easily lopsided leagues would get without constant oversight. Once again, NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE SHARK POOL IS IN FAVOR OF TRADING, NONE, NADA! Read this thread.

Thanks. I've read the thread. Honestly, a little insulting assume I'm not reading the thread.

And I'm reading the survey.

We're working really hard to bring this contest to everyone and make it as good as we can.

I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than saying I'll take a second look at this.

Thanks. We'll take a look at the trades.

@Joey Wright has been not in favor but I've been in favor. Primarily because we had tons of people asking for them as trading is a huge part of the fun. And some of our primary competitors allow them in their contests.

I think it's a big distinction that this isn't a high stakes NFFC league with thousands of dollars on the line. This is a fun league.

But I hear folks and we'll take a second look.

Sorry

 

[Joe Bryant]

@Joe Bryant
Not a single person in the the Shark Pool is for trading in this format, including your very own @Joey Wright who is running this thing. How many more negative comments do you need to squash trading? Sure, people wanted it last year, but they didn't take into account how easily lopsided leagues would get without constant oversight. Once again, NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE SHARK POOL IS IN FAVOR OF TRADING, NONE, NADA! Read this thread.

Thanks. I've read the thread. Honestly, a little insulting assume I'm not reading the thread.

And I'm reading the survey.

We're working really hard to bring this contest to everyone and make it as good as we can.

I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than saying I'll take a second look at this.

Thanks. We'll take a look at the trades.

@Joey Wright has been not in favor but I've been in favor. Primarily because we had tons of people asking for them as trading is a huge part of the fun. And some of our primary competitors allow them in their contests.

I think it's a big distinction that this isn't a high stakes NFFC league with thousands of dollars on the line. This is a fun league.

But I hear folks and we'll take a second look.

Sorry

It's ok. It's just disappointing to be pouring this much work and effort into this and be told to "read the thread" as if I haven't been.

We've received good feedback here and good feedback on the survey. We'll have an answer here soon.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the feedback here and thanks to all those that helped with the survey.

For 2025, we will go back to the 2024 rule and will NOT allow trades.

Our only thought on allowing them was we all know personally that trading is a huge part of what makes fantasy football fun. And lots of people asked for it after the 2024 season.

We were willing to take on the extra workload (and it's a lot) to figure a way to allow and then overlook trades and we thought the extra work would be worth the benefit for the player. Of course the high stakes leagues where collusion has a financial gain don't allow them. I was thinking in a more fun league like this one, trades would be a positive the same way they are in a local league.

I was wrong there.

That's great news for us as it's tons easier for us to not allow trades.

@Joey Wright will be updating the rules page soon.

Again, we will NOT allow trades for the Footballguys Bowl. Thanks to everyone for the discussion and help here.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I, personally, appreciate all of the effort and thoughts put into considering allowing trading this year. I also appreciate being asked my opinion on the matter. Furthermore, I am extremely grateful to FBG, @Joe Bryant and @Joey Wright for putting together another year of this league/Bowl. J am confident it will remain as fun as it was last year.

 

[Dacomish]

No trades, nice, now time to go figure out who to draft vs the other SP regulars! This is gonna be fun!!!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We were willing to take on the extra workload (and it's a lot) to figure a way to allow and then overlook trades and we thought the extra work would be worth the benefit for the player. Of course the high stakes leagues where collusion has a financial gain don't allow them. I was thinking in a more fun league like this one, trades would be a positive the same way they are in a local league.

I was wrong there.

I appreciate the sentiment behind this, truly. I’m certain it was done with fun in mind, and the very best of intentions.

Many of us have played in free leagues, way back in the early days of FF. It is based on that experience that I came to understand that regardless of stakes (or lack thereof) people will try to cheat. It’s a sad, cynical way to view the world, and I would not have that view unless I’d seen it firsthand.

For a couple of seasons I played in low stakes CBS FBB leagues. $50 or something. And every league I played in, we had at least one instance of collusion so bad that both teams involved were locked by CBS, the owners booted. And that was low stakes.

But I don’t want that cynicism to come off as any sort of negative towards you or FBG for wanting to include trades - again, I believe it was an idea with the best of intentions.

It’s just a bummer that people are the way they are and that’s why we can’t have nice things.

 

[Joey Wright]

When we announced the Footballguys Bowl last year, we said the key mission was community. We appreciate all the feedback. Every year it will become better and more fun, I am positive!!! Thanks everyone!

 

[jm192]

If I resubmit the form, does it replace the old form? I’ve realized I can’t draft Tuesday morning.

 

[Bri]

I see league threads here and not in AC forum and am wondering was this open for all or only a random few? I haven't heard anything. I understand there's a big following here and that would be lots of work. This is a sincere question.

 

[TheWinz]

I see league threads here and not in AC forum and am wondering was this open for all or only a random few? I haven't heard anything. I understand there's a big following here and that would be lots of work. This is a sincere question.

A bunch of Shark Poolers asked to be in the same leagues with each other, so @Joey Wright posted an early sign-up link in this thread's original post. There's still time to do it. Come on in!

 

[Bri]

I see league threads here and not in AC forum and am wondering was this open for all or only a random few? I haven't heard anything. I understand there's a big following here and that would be lots of work. This is a sincere question.

A bunch of Shark Poolers asked to be in the same leagues with each other, so @Joey Wright posted an early sign-up link in this thread's original post. There's still time to do it. Come on in!

I did. Haven't heard anything is all

 

[TheWinz]

I see league threads here and not in AC forum and am wondering was this open for all or only a random few? I haven't heard anything. I understand there's a big following here and that would be lots of work. This is a sincere question.

A bunch of Shark Poolers asked to be in the same leagues with each other, so @Joey Wright posted an early sign-up link in this thread's original post. There's still time to do it. Come on in!

I did. Haven't heard anything is all

I thought for now we were just selecting draft dates and times we were available. Has anyone been told they have a confirmed draft date and time yet?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

First post says we have until July 29. Doubt we hear until after that.

 

[H8fulHuck]

in. Thank you for bringing this back! Maybe this is the year I don’t serve as BE Joe punching bag to the rest of y’all.

 

[Joey Wright]

If I resubmit the form, does it replace the old form? I’ve realized I can’t draft Tuesday morning.

@jm192 I'll delete duplicate entries and go with whatever the most recent response is.

 

[Joey Wright]

First post says we have until July 29. Doubt we hear until after that.

@Ramblin Wreck That is correct. You won't hear anything about your draft divisions until around the second week of August once they are sorted.

 

[Joey Wright]

Hey guys! One other thing I wanted to make note of to you on the Footballguys Bowl. There will be a survey going out today to all subscribers of every level gauging interest in LIVE DRAFTS in one of five cities, Nashville, Orlando, Las Vegas, Denver, and Columbus. If you are interested in attending a LIVE EVENT go ahead and fill out the form. Unless there are 12 people in one of those locations, it wouldn't be able to be a dedicated Shark Pool LIve Draft event. If we do have 12 that are centrally located we can definitely attempt this.

 

[Joe Bryant]

They're not dedicated Shark Pool leagues, but be on the lookout for an email from us today about the Footballguys Bowl. A fun wrinkle we're looking into.

 

[Scoresman]

Hey guys! One other thing I wanted to make note of to you on the Footballguys Bowl. There will be a survey going out today to all subscribers of every level gauging interest in LIVE DRAFTS in one of five cities, Nashville, Orlando, Las Vegas, Denver, and Columbus. If you are interested in attending a LIVE EVENT go ahead and fill out the form. Unless there are 12 people in one of those locations, it wouldn't be able to be a dedicated Shark Pool LIve Draft event. If we do have 12 that are centrally located we can definitely attempt this.

This would be cool and I would attend if any of these were local to me (PNW).

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hey guys! One other thing I wanted to make note of to you on the Footballguys Bowl. There will be a survey going out today to all subscribers of every level gauging interest in LIVE DRAFTS in one of five cities, Nashville, Orlando, Las Vegas, Denver, and Columbus. If you are interested in attending a LIVE EVENT go ahead and fill out the form. Unless there are 12 people in one of those locations, it wouldn't be able to be a dedicated Shark Pool LIve Draft event. If we do have 12 that are centrally located we can definitely attempt this.

This would be cool and I would attend if any of these were local to me (PNW).

Agreed. I think they'll super fun to see what we can do there. The survey will have a place for you to enter the city you could do a live event in.

 

[Joey Wright]

The survey will have a place for you to enter the city you could do a live event in.

This wouldn't be until 2026 though for additional cities. We have cities listed and at this point, these are the only options for live events.

 

[Joey Wright]

Hey all! So some of you will see emails headed out to your inbox a little later today/tomorrow morning with invites to your Footballguys Bowl Leagues. These are Shark Pool Dedicated Leagues.

Now, we had around 49 responses which you would think, GREAT! 4 leagues and one alternate who can just join a public league worst case scenario. Well it is sort of like that.

Across the 8 draft times we offered, we were able to fill two complete leagues with 12 spots each, one league of 10, and a league of 6. Then there are nine teams without homes currently (but we will get you somewhere!)

I will be emailing the nine manager's emails to see if they are able to coordinate with the other draft times. After I get the responses from this, I will do a second call to action for the Shark Pool to fill the remaining spots.

While I am sorting through this, please do not message me to say "Hey Frank Chaplin can do it!" We will get to Frank Chaplin on the second call to action. I want the people who responded on time to get the most attention right now with placement.

Thanks everyone!!!

 

[TheWinz]

I will gladly add more draft times if it means facing off against more Shark Poolers! Will be refreshing my e-mail starting in about 15 minutes.

 

[nittanylion]

@Joey Wright , please check your PM's. Thanks!

 

[bro1ncos]

Adjusted to Sunday the 24th at 8pm

 

[Joe Bryant]

Let's Go.

Thank you @Joey Wright for setting these up.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Let's Go.

Thank you @Joey Wright for setting these up.

Totally echo this. Can’t wait to draft in a few weeks. Thanks to both of you for doing this.

 

[Joey Wright]

Okay, all the invites for the Shark Pool Leagues as part of this year's Footballguys Bowl have been sent out!

 

[Scoresman]

In for Tuesday the 26th at 7 am!

 

[TheWinz]

FBG League 0003, drafting Monday night

 

[TheWinz]

Thanx a million, @Joey Wright