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The stat line looks great. But he only caught what looks like 50% of his targets. For those that watched the game, how did Little look? Is he a mainstay of the offense? Any redzone targets?
What does this mean exactly?hes also tough after the catch. his extra yardage after the catch after contact is like a rb. he found little discrepancies to get an extra couple yards many times. the missed td was bad tho.
Id call today hope and wouldnt be dropping him, YWIASo his upside is McCoy is targeting him more? Little isn't really doing anything that special? I didn't watch the game but have Little. I'm bleeding at wr this year. Need some hope.
I agree Little in a PPR league is a good call. Still would not touch him in a nonPPRHis route running is still rough, but in leagues where you get a full point per perception his amount of targets alone should make him worth rostering. He's also physical and fast once the ball is in his hands so that's a plus as well. I started him this week, and I'll probably continue to start him every time he has a favorable matchup until he burns me.
He did trip and fall at the one-yard line, just missing a TD he should have easily had.In any event, what stood out most was the 12 targets for Little. Team brass and McCoy is clearly making an effort to get the ball in his hands.I dont know. Maybe in 12 team non ppr. But anything over that I would say he is a good low WR3 or WR4. But as the season progresses, I think that will improve and once he gets some red zone targets, I think that puts him solidly as a WR3 in both PPR and non.
Interesting how one foot (the difference between him not scoring and getting the TD) changes the perception of Little. If he scores that TD, I bet he gets a lot more props this week.As mentioned, the number I am focusing on is the 12 targets he got after team brass said they wanted him to become more involved in the offense.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.
The 12 targets is the key. The Browns, who have yet to establish a running game and rank 30th in the NFL in rushing. McCoy has thrown the ball a ton so far this season and I expect that to continue. The 12 targets also come on the heels of Little being named the starter the week before during their BYE. I see no reason why he wouldn't continue to see plenty of targets and continue to trend upwards.Interesting how one foot (the difference between him not scoring and getting the TD) changes the perception of Little. If he scores that TD, I bet he gets a lot more props this week.As mentioned, the number I am focusing on is the 12 targets he got after team brass said they wanted him to become more involved in the offense.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.
Agreed. While he was on the field at the level of a starter in prior weeks, it really seems like when they named him an official starter, they made a true effort to use him as such.The 12 targets is the key. The Browns, who have yet to establish a running game and rank 30th in the NFL in rushing. McCoy has thrown the ball a ton so far this season and I expect that to continue. The 12 targets also come on the heels of Little being named the starter the week before during their BYE. I see no reason why he wouldn't continue to see plenty of targets and continue to trend upwards.Interesting how one foot (the difference between him not scoring and getting the TD) changes the perception of Little. If he scores that TD, I bet he gets a lot more props this week.As mentioned, the number I am focusing on is the 12 targets he got after team brass said they wanted him to become more involved in the offense.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.
He almost made a really nice one-handed grab in traffic at the 1 later in the game, as well. We could be looking at almost 100yds and 2 tds pretty easily.he had 6 for 72 and narrowly missed a td, not sure why yall are questioning him, this was a promising performance.
Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.
I too thought he was in before sliding out of bounds or being touched, but Cle didn't challenge. Would have won a game for me.I'm all over this train in two redraft PPR leagues. For the record, I thought he crawled to the plain of the goal line before being touched. They didn't challenge because it set up a first and goal from a foot out. Like someone made mention earlier, one foot is the difference between the hype being doubled.
I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
His Wednesday projections thus far aren't any different. Little is still ranked fairly low but maybe it's different tomorrow.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
I've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
Maybe Dodds does some research earlier in the week and then eventually comes to a much closer conclusion and just to appease the masses he gives out ballpark projections Tuesday and Wednesday?In other wordsI've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
I know that they have always said that the first projection is very raw and can change quite a bit. I did notice that Bloom goes in the other direction with Little, and has him ranked at #10 (ppr) this week.Maybe Dodds does some research earlier in the week and then eventually comes to a much closer conclusion and just to appease the masses he gives out ballpark projections Tuesday and Wednesday?In other wordsI've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
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I am guessing this is the last week you will be able to get him for next to nothing. It all ready might be too late in a lot of leagues. But every week that goes by, this guy continues to get more and more targets. Its a week away from the majority catching on. I think there is a good chance he still outproduces whatever you pay for him right now by the end of the year. Hell, I would rather have him right now than Tampa Mike Williams, Eric Decker, Raiders Moore, and even Dez Bryant (do to Bryants fragile and unpredictable nature). And Certainly ahead of Michael Crabtree or a good number of young "future star" WRs.the slip at the goal line is a good thing for those of us with a low waiver wire priority
I am sure you guys can PM him to get a proper response. The impression I got(just my impression) is that the Tuesday/Wednesday rankings are basically just numbers matching up his season projections against the defense played. During the week he goes through and looks at specific matchups, adjustments to projections and so on.I know that they have always said that the first projection is very raw and can change quite a bit. I did notice that Bloom goes in the other direction with Little, and has him ranked at #10 (ppr) this week.Maybe Dodds does some research earlier in the week and then eventually comes to a much closer conclusion and just to appease the masses he gives out ballpark projections Tuesday and Wednesday?In other wordsI've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
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I don't know why a PM is needed for a proper explanation. His material has been published/updated in a less than timely manner for the past two seasons. In a bye week with WWs running early Wed it makes a lot of his stuff pretty much worthless.I am sure you guys can PM him to get a proper response. The impression I got(just my impression) is that the Tuesday/Wednesday rankings are basically just numbers matching up his season projections against the defense played. During the week he goes through and looks at specific matchups, adjustments to projections and so on.I know that they have always said that the first projection is very raw and can change quite a bit. I did notice that Bloom goes in the other direction with Little, and has him ranked at #10 (ppr) this week.Maybe Dodds does some research earlier in the week and then eventually comes to a much closer conclusion and just to appease the masses he gives out ballpark projections Tuesday and Wednesday?In other wordsI've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me. I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
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Yes, I did see that. I'm rolling with Little and see what happens.I know that they have always said that the first projection is very raw and can change quite a bit. I did notice that Bloom goes in the other direction with Little, and has him ranked at #10 (ppr) this week.Maybe Dodds does some research earlier in the week and then eventually comes to a much closer conclusion and just to appease the masses he gives out ballpark projections Tuesday and Wednesday?In other wordsI've noticed this also throughout the week. I'm wondering why...any thoughts? I can understand a little variance from day to day but such drastic moves in player rankings are kind of scary.'moderated said:'Jail said:The early ranking really don't mean that much. I think I've read Dodds comment that he wouldn't even put them out if there werent such a fever for early rankings. Its funny, people always complain about those early rankings, but if he waits until he has enough time to really put good rankings they complain that they come too late.I was also surprised to see Dodds ranking him so low this week. I would expect that similar numbers to last week would be very doable against the Seahawks whose weakness on defense is against the pass.Anyone else think that he could have a nice game this week (especially in PPR). I notice that Dodds has him ranked extremely low in his early rankings (51st in a week with a number of players on bye), which seems ridiculously low to me.
I think he has top 15-20 upside this week, against a Seattle team that has allowed some big games to receivers.Agree 100%. I think he will go off especially since Trufant is done for the year. I wouldn't be surprised if he was top 10 this week (ppr).
don't even bother looking at Dodds Tuesday projections. The actual real rankings he puts out Wednesday evening are vastly different.
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Yep. This post above is exactly why sites end up putting out half-assed rankings so early in the week. People like to use rankings for waiver wire claims instead of helping with lineup decisions.Anyway, Dodds now has Little at #23.Bloom now has him at #14 for PPR and #26 for non-PPR.I don't know why a PM is needed for a proper explanation. His material has been published/updated in a less than timely manner for the past two seasons. In a bye week with WWs running early Wed it makes a lot of his stuff pretty much worthless.
I was at the game. The Browns run 4-5 yard patterns with him and Seattle was all over it. They targeted him deep down the sideline once, but he drew safety help and it fell incomplete. Until the Browns get either better playcalling or start using him differently, it's going to be hit or miss all season. The Browns are just too conservative.that was a letdown...anyone see the game for a detailed report? Looks like they ran the ball to death....
I disagree with this assessment of McCoy.McCoy makes the reads & delivers the ball quickly. The problem is two-fold. First, because the WCO is designed to accentuate the run-after-catch aspect, they rarely throw downfield. The defense knows this as well as the fact that both the QB & offense are new. There are always 8+ men in the box and blitzes are replete. Combined with problem #2, the OL being mostly young and/or injured, leaves absolutely zero time for passing downfield. You can't fault a QB for that!As much as I like the guy, it is becoming more and more apparent to me that Colt McCoy isn't the long term answer. His deep ball is virtually non-existant, and he holds the ball WAY too long in the pocket. I realize that both of these issues can be improved by McCoy and better receivers. My biggest issue with McCoy (and thus the Browns passing game with him at QB) is that most every catch is going to be < 8 yards down the field. They run lots of outs and hooks, which goes against the idea of getting Cribbs and Little the ball on the run so they can make something happen. Just doesn't look like a great situation to me...
Yea. I couldn't tell if Little just has trouble getting downfield or if it was the D. However, Colt can't really throw accurately downfield anyway. But Little definitely seems to be an over the middle WR. With a good downfield threat next to him, might open things up a bit. Little seems to be a lot of what Crabtree is failing to be.browns just dont throw downfield much, ofc little doesnt seem like much a deepish threat either. for a big fantasy game he needs to get the ball in space and get yards after the catch. hes like percy harvin i guess. he had one bad drop iirc.