Hakeem Nicks listed as doubtful a few weeks ago (1 Viewer)

[meyerj31]

Brutal. Was really expecting a fantastic year from him. Injuries are so random that I think the "injury-prone" moniker is used way too liberally. Especially given the extremely low sample sizes of 16 games per year. Anyone making it to this level is a tough SOB and most guys play through injuries if it is possible to do so.

Really hoping Nicks is able to bounce back soon.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I own Nicks in several leagues, the dude is injury prone, he just is

 

[ponchsox]

Hopefully Nicks is healthy when in matters, come playoff time for us Nicks owners with depth.

 

[Superdbs]

Is this the same knee he fell hard on at the end of the Tampa game, when he also got his ankle stepped on too? How could they not know

at some point in the past 2 weeks that something was wrong with his knee? And to basically be written off on Friday, not even a GTD?

Doesn't sound good.

Damn, always something with Nicks.

 

[tsarc888]

According to ESPN New York, Hakeem Nicks' knee soreness dates back to his hard fall late in the Giants' Week 2 win over the Bucs.

It's a concern, as Nicks didn't test his knee until Thursday, where the soreness occurred despite a 10-day layoff. ESPN New York's Ian Begley also believes the soreness is in Nicks' left knee, which is unwelcome news since Nicks' foot woes are with his right foot. With issues with both legs, Nicks shouldn't be considered a lock to return for Week 5, though he has 10 more days to heal.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Isn't Hixon back this week? I get that everyone who picked up Barden is excited, but Barden's opportunity only came as a result of Nicks AND Hixon being out.

Assuming he plays (he's currently listed as probable) I think Hixon has as much chance of getting stats as Barden, if not more.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Isn't Hixon back this week? I get that everyone who picked up Barden is excited, but Barden's opportunity only came as a result of Nicks AND Hixon being out.Assuming he plays (he's currently listed as probable) I think Hixon has as much chance of getting stats as Barden, if not more.

Hixon would stay at his slot, and Ramses would move into Nicks', no?

 

[Fantasy Bum]

I owned Nicks for 2 years previous to this....drafted Cruz this year and will NEVER own Nicks again. Dude is never healthy.

cool congrats you are smarter than everyone else thanks for sharing any other i told ya sos to gloat about?

PM me for fantasy advice, I would be more than happy to help a rook out.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I was feeling out the market and I can still get a decent return on Nicks at this point. Will I take it? I'll have to mull it over. There's no doubt this guy is top 5 when healthy, but that doesn't look like it will be the case this year. I guess his ADP was justified afterall.

 

[kutta]

So it is going to be Barden or Hixon? I've heard Hixon but I have a hard time buying that Barden wouldn't get a second chance after last week.

Does anyone in the know know?

 

[Kboyd78]

Did you see last weeks game? Barden wa a man among boys I assure you this guy is going to have a nice game

 

[fruity pebbles]

Sounds like a bone bruise

 

[The Dude]

So it is going to be Barden or Hixon? I've heard Hixon but I have a hard time buying that Barden wouldn't get a second chance after last week.Does anyone in the know know?

I can't assure you like Kboyd can but you have to wonder about Hixon. Dude had all preseason to establish himself as a better option than Barden and did it. Not sure why one very good game by Barden would overrule weeks of proof.Could go either way - but you have to be concerned about Hixon.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The Eagles defense is pretty good. Just sayin'....

 

[groin pains]

Isn't Hixon back this week? I get that everyone who picked up Barden is excited, but Barden's opportunity only came as a result of Nicks AND Hixon being out.Assuming he plays (he's currently listed as probable) I think Hixon has as much chance of getting stats as Barden, if not more.

Hixon would stay at his slot, and Ramses would move into Nicks', no?

Yes, Barden is the #2 to Nicks. Hixon will play the slot.

 

[Kboyd78]

What has Hixon done besides sit on the sidelines. Call it a hunch but Barden just looks like the guy. I think Nicks nagging injuries, coverage rolled to Cruz and Bennett's emergence makes for the perfect storm to have Braden have a good game. I honestly could see nicks being injured all year and Barden becoming a big part of the offense. It looks just like Cruz last year and if you we're late to that party you missed out on an amazing WW WR.

 

[loose circuits]

Isn't Hixon back this week? I get that everyone who picked up Barden is excited, but Barden's opportunity only came as a result of Nicks AND Hixon being out.Assuming he plays (he's currently listed as probable) I think Hixon has as much chance of getting stats as Barden, if not more.

Hixon would stay at his slot, and Ramses would move into Nicks', no?

Yes, Barden is the #2 to Nicks. Hixon will play the slot.

Cruz plays the slot

 

[Frank Black]

So it is going to be Barden or Hixon? I've heard Hixon but I have a hard time buying that Barden wouldn't get a second chance after last week.Does anyone in the know know?

Could go either way - but you have to be concerned about Hixon.

This.

 

[Frank Black]

If Nicks continues to have problems, I think Barden is the better long term FF option beyond this week because Hixon has problems staying healthy himself.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Uh, Fitz was the first WR go to over 65 yards in the Eagles last 8 games. I analyzed it a bit, and PHI didn't face the toughest of competition, but if you believe Barden is anymore than a WR4 with slight upside in this match up you're out of your mind.

This won't be the same situation where you have Barden picking on a rookie CB in Norman while Hixon is watching from the side lines.

 

[The Dude]

What has Hixon done besides sit on the sidelines. Call it a hunch but Barden just looks like the guy. I think Nicks nagging injuries, coverage rolled to Cruz and Bennett's emergence makes for the perfect storm to have Braden have a good game. I honestly could see nicks being injured all year and Barden becoming a big part of the offense. It looks just like Cruz last year and if you we're late to that party you missed out on an amazing WW WR.

What he did was over a large sample size - offseason and preseason - he earned a higher spot on the depth chart than Barden. Doesn't mean you are not right - Barden may be the better play - but you have to be concerned that Hixon gets more snaps and action than Barden until we see what happens when both are active.If you read the Barden PT thread, there is a quote from some NYG writer saying Hixon is still ahead of Barden on the depth chart.

 

[NJ]

Uh, Fitz was the first WR go to over 65 yards in the Eagles last 8 games. I analyzed it a bit, and PHI didn't face the toughest of competition, but if you believe Barden is anymore than a WR4 with slight upside in this match up you're out of your mind.

Their competition over those 8 games has been flat out awful. Here are the QBs they've faced:Tavaris JacksonMatt MooreMark SanchezStephen McGee (Romo went out after 2 pass attempts)Rex GrossmanBrandon WeedenJoe FlaccoKevin KolbEli on the other hand has thrown for 760 yards and 8 TDs in his last 3 games vs Philly and there has been a 100 yard WR in all 3 games. I don't think using the last 8 games the Eagles have played to predict how the Eagles/Giants game will go makes a whole lot of sense.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Uh, Fitz was the first WR go to over 65 yards in the Eagles last 8 games. I analyzed it a bit, and PHI didn't face the toughest of competition, but if you believe Barden is anymore than a WR4 with slight upside in this match up you're out of your mind.

Their competition over those 8 games has been flat out awful. Here are the QBs they've faced:Tavaris JacksonMatt MooreMark SanchezStephen McGee (Romo went out after 2 pass attempts)Rex GrossmanBrandon WeedenJoe FlaccoKevin KolbEli on the other hand has thrown for 760 yards and 8 TDs in his last 3 games vs Philly and there has been a 100 yard WR in all 3 games. Not saying I expect Barden to get over 100, but I don't think using the last 8 games the Eagles have played to predict how the Eagles/Giants game will go makes a whole lot of sense.

Hence why I said "they didn't face the toughest of competition", nor did I use that stat as some type of barometer to predict how the Eagles/Giants game would go. I only referred to Barden, in which case I still stand by my statement. Nothing you posted argued the contrary anyway.Tougher opponent + more competition = will not replicate last week.

 

[ryoly]

Just looked up the official NYG depth chart and Hixon appears as the backup to Nicks...I'm picking up Hixon to sit on my bench and wait and see what develops....

ETA: Barden appears as 3rd string, behind Hixon...I think this week we'll find out how Coughlin handles this situation...

 

[Captain Hook]

ESPN is reporting that Hicks is OUT tomorrow > http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8439113/new-york-giants-wide-receiver-hakeem-nicks-philadelphia-eagles

 

[foxco]

ESPN is reporting that Hicks is OUT tomorrow > http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8439113/new-york-giants-wide-receiver-hakeem-nicks-philadelphia-eagles

Nicks also out!Big blow for the Gmen as I think Philly will be tough.

 

[degenerate]

rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks (knee) has been ruled out for Week 4 against the Eagles.

Nicks didn't even travel with the team to Philadelphia and has been downgraded each day of the week after experiencing swelling in his knee on Thursday. Nicks is now experiencing issues with his right foot and left knee. It's unwelcome news to the Giants and fantasy owners, and we can't fully expect him to suit up for Week 5 now. Ramses Barden will start in Nicks' place, but temper your expectations, as he isn't likely to come close to his Week 3 numbers. The Eagles sport the No. 3 ranked pass defense.

 

[The Dude]

rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks (knee) has been ruled out for Week 4 against the Eagles.

Nicks didn't even travel with the team to Philadelphia and has been downgraded each day of the week after experiencing swelling in his knee on Thursday. Nicks is now experiencing issues with his right foot and left knee. It's unwelcome news to the Giants and fantasy owners, and we can't fully expect him to suit up for Week 5 now. Ramses Barden will start in Nicks' place, but temper your expectations, as he isn't likely to come close to his Week 3 numbers. The Eagles sport the No. 3 ranked pass defense.

Again, you need to be careful - that may be conjecture or it maybe fact - I would like to know the source of that statement.

Either way, I don;t think you start either guy this weekend.

 

[menobrown]

rotoworld:

Hakeem Nicks (knee) has been ruled out for Week 4 against the Eagles.

Nicks didn't even travel with the team to Philadelphia and has been downgraded each day of the week after experiencing swelling in his knee on Thursday. Nicks is now experiencing issues with his right foot and left knee. It's unwelcome news to the Giants and fantasy owners, and we can't fully expect him to suit up for Week 5 now. Ramses Barden will start in Nicks' place, but temper your expectations, as he isn't likely to come close to his Week 3 numbers. The Eagles sport the No. 3 ranked pass defense.

Again, you need to be careful - that may be conjecture or it maybe fact - I would like to know the source of that statement.

Either way, I don;t think you start either guy this weekend.

Yes that's just a rotoworld opinion.

I've searched every end of the internet for answers as to who is starting opposite Cruz and at this point I can't locate anything definitive and by definitive I mean a reliable Giants beat writer who actually has a chance to know something, not a rotoworld let's throw it out there opinion.

I know Giants beat writer Ralph Vacciano was directly asked last night who was starting, Hixon or Barden, and he said he had no idea.

Closest definite thing I've been able to find was that Giant beat writer yesterday who said Barden was back to 4th string. I think that writers name was Tom Rock or something, all I know is I don't follow him on twitter or read what he writes so I have no idea how accurate he normally might be.

So the way I see it this situation has two major question marks. Who starts opposite Cruz and how serious or long term is Nicks knee? I did just read one Giants beat writer who said the injury occurred last week when Hicks got tackled and defender stepped on his feet forcing him to fall on both knees. Giants only just knew the severity because his practice schedule calls for him to only practice once a week.

Either way Nicks is a badly beat up player who should miss anywhere from a few to most games this year so the answer to Hixon or Barden is one I think that ultimately will be significant. If anyone finds out anything please share.

 

[NJ]

Hence why I said "they didn't face the toughest of competition", nor did I use that stat as some type of barometer to predict how the Eagles/Giants game would go. I only referred to Barden, in which case I still stand by my statement. Nothing you posted argued the contrary anyway.

Well then I don't know why you even brought up the fact that they didn't allow a 65 yard receiver in the last 8 games if that had no bearing at all on the argument you were trying to make against Barden. I was simply pointing out that the Eagles secondary is a bit overrated IMHO based on their recent competition and these Giants/Eagles games have a tendency to turn into shootouts, the average total points in the last 6 Giants/Eagles games has been 52.5 points. If Nicks is out and Eli throws for 250-300 and 2-3 TDs, then someone other than Cruz will likely have a decent game for the Giants. If you don't think that will be Barden because Hixon will get the start, thats perfectly fine, I just thought you were implying that the Eagles secondary was likely going to shut down the Giants WRs, sorry if I misunderstood.

 

[Phenix]

BUMP!

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Isn't Hixon back this week? I get that everyone who picked up Barden is excited, but Barden's opportunity only came as a result of Nicks AND Hixon being out.

Assuming he plays (he's currently listed as probable) I think Hixon has as much chance of getting stats as Barden, if not more.

:goodgreatposting: Starting to think we wont see Nicks for a long time. Hixon looks to have a ton of upside. Of course i was one of the ones that picked up Barden instead.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Monday that Hakeem Nicks' troublesome knee has not improved since last Thursday's practice.

Nicks experienced an apparent setback with the knee after the practice, as he was downgraded from questionable to doubtful and ultimately ruled out for Week 4 against the Eagles after the knee swelled up. He has problems with both his right foot and left knee, although the latter appears to be Nicks' biggest issue at this point. Asked Monday if he's concerned with the knee, Coughlin replied, "How much concern can I show you?" We're skeptical Nicks stands any chance of playing in Week 5 against the Browns.

 

[solorca]

I have a bad feeling Nicks may give it a shot in another game or two...but I think he ends up on IR pretty soon.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I have a bad feeling Nicks may give it a shot in another game or two...but I think he ends up on IR pretty soon.

O no...

 

[SameSongNDance]

How much should I be panicking right now? I feel like pushing the panic button, it's right in front of me.. plastic cover lifted and all.

 

[foxco]

How much should I be panicking right now? I feel like pushing the panic button, it's right in front of me.. plastic cover lifted and all.

If you don't press that button, I will.

 

[UFGator0587]

Trying to sell now before it's too late.

 

[Moldy Potato]

I have a bad feeling Nicks may give it a shot in another game or two...but I think he ends up on IR pretty soon.

Anything to back that up? Or just a hunch based on his past history?

 

[solorca]

I have a bad feeling Nicks may give it a shot in another game or two...but I think he ends up on IR pretty soon.

Anything to back that up? Or just a hunch based on his past history?

No. I have no information...it's just a gut feeling that I have.His past history actually says the opposite, that he'll end up playing through the pain and performing.

 

[matttyl]

I have a bad feeling Nicks may give it a shot in another game or two...but I think he ends up on IR pretty soon.

Anything to back that up? Or just a hunch based on his past history?

No. I have no information...it's just a gut feeling that I have.His past history actually says the opposite, that he'll end up playing through the pain and performing.

He could go on the new IR rules, couldn't he? Be back week 7 or 8 or something?

 

[flapgreen]

Trying to sell now before it's too late.

It's way too late.

 

[SayWhat?]

Trying to sell now before it's too late.

It's way too late.

Not if I'm in your league. I'm a buyer on Nicks.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Well you know they've done an mri since they do them proactively on every injury. He fell on the knee hard two weeks ago and it still hurts. Given that info I'm guessing that its a bone bruise or a meniscus tear which are often hard to see on mris. Just a guess though since they aren't releasing any info.

 

[ponchsox]

I'm not counting on him at all until at least the second half of the season.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I'm not counting on him at all until at least the second half of the season.

I just traded him for Brandon Marshall and Michael Bush (I have Forte). I'm done with the Nicks roller coaster.

 

[UFGator0587]

I'm not counting on him at all until at least the second half of the season.

I just traded him for Brandon Marshall and Michael Bush (I have Forte). I'm done with the Nicks roller coaster.

To make sure I'm hearing you correctly, that was Nicks by himself for Marshall and Bush? Wow. Wish I could get that kind of offer at this point.

 

[Phenix]

I'm not counting on him at all until at least the second half of the season.

I just traded him for Brandon Marshall and Michael Bush (I have Forte). I'm done with the Nicks roller coaster.

To make sure I'm hearing you correctly, that was Nicks by himself for Marshall and Bush? Wow. Wish I could get that kind of offer at this point.

For Value purposes for others looking to move him, I just unloaded Nicks for Welker in TD heavy non ppr, have to get whatever at this point.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I'm not counting on him at all until at least the second half of the season.

I just traded him for Brandon Marshall and Michael Bush (I have Forte). I'm done with the Nicks roller coaster.

To make sure I'm hearing you correctly, that was Nicks by himself for Marshall and Bush? Wow. Wish I could get that kind of offer at this point.

Yes. I was only going after Michael Bush for one of my 2nd/3rd Tier receivers but his owner offered me both Marshal and Bush for Nicks instead. I had to do it.

 

[bmsarvis]

Imma little dissapointed in nicks right now but no way can i sell low. Hes proven over n over hell get hurt and then proves over and over he's a beast. He can sit on my.bench while i start harvin and green so im lessed pressed at the position than some of you. But the guys tough and will be healthy soon enough imo. Redraft =a different story

 

[Donsmith753]

Redraft he's obviously a sell but as a dynasty owner I'm not concerned at all. My team is WR heavy so I don't need him but I'd much rather he sat out a few weeks and came back healthy.