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Hakeem Nicks (1 Viewer)

It's like dodging bullets if you've already drafted. The good news is right now you're far enough out that little sprains and bruises will heal before the season starts, although you never want your guy to get an injury.

We'll see what the MRI reveals, hopefully it all checks out and he'll just need minimal rest on it. If not, you can give a big bump to Mario Manningham, that's for sure.

 
Multiple Scores said:
What is the time from on this?
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Hyperextension is the mechanism of the movement of the knee when he was hit or landed. It is quite possible that he has no injury from it at all. Basically the knee bends the opposite way. Certainly is not the way the knee is supposed to bend. However, the usual mechanism of a torn ACL is planting the foot and twisting. The usual mechanism of a torn MCL is a blow to the outside part of the knee. The report is very vague, but seems he did walk on his own power, so will need to wait and see the results of the MRI.
 
jwb said:
CB31 said:
Who ISN'T hurt in training camp??? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Yea, is it just a little ridiculous this year? Sure seems that way.
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I mean, it's almost like the Brett Farve comparison I made earlier about how we're all information crazy. We know every little thing that happens out there. This kind of stuff happened 20 years ago too but it wasn't posted on Twitter 5 minutes after a guy limps off a practice field, or posted on forums/blogs and interviewed after practice on 4 Espn's.So, we're going to here about every little ding there is and most of them will be near misses but some of them will be bonified injuries. We used to hear just about those maybe the night of the day it happened, now we know about if a guy gets the wind knocked out of him or that the Vikings are in a Team Huddle in the middle of practice......crazy world we live in.

 
(Rotoworld) A source tells ESPN New York that "early indications are positive" about Hakeem Nicks' hyperextended right knee.

Analysis: Jeremy Maclin suffered essentially the same injury Tuesday, and the feeling in Philadelphia is similar. Nicks' MRI will take place Tuesday night. He'll have more tests on Wednesday, and a team update is expected by Thursday

 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
jwb said:
CB31 said:
Who ISN'T hurt in training camp??? :sadbanana: :hot: :rant:
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Yea, is it just a little ridiculous this year? Sure seems that way.
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I mean, it's almost like the Brett Farve comparison I made earlier about how we're all information crazy. We know every little thing that happens out there. This kind of stuff happened 20 years ago too but it wasn't posted on Twitter 5 minutes after a guy limps off a practice field, or posted on forums/blogs and interviewed after practice on 4 Espn's.So, we're going to here about every little ding there is and most of them will be near misses but some of them will be bonified injuries. We used to hear just about those maybe the night of the day it happened, now we know about if a guy gets the wind knocked out of him or that the Vikings are in a Team Huddle in the middle of practice......crazy world we live in.
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There over time have been threads about handling too much info (which is a problem). I mean I will be able to watch every pre-season game and even see some snaps from training camp practices, much less know the second someone has any sort of injury. We have to be just as careful not to over react versus reacting too slowly in our hyper-information age.
 
ATC1 said:
Multiple Scores said:
What is the time from on this?
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Hyperextension is the mechanism of the movement of the knee when he was hit or landed. It is quite possible that he has no injury from it at all. Basically the knee bends the opposite way. Certainly is not the way the knee is supposed to bend. However, the usual mechanism of a torn ACL is planting the foot and twisting. The usual mechanism of a torn MCL is a blow to the outside part of the knee. The report is very vague, but seems he did walk on his own power, so will need to wait and see the results of the MRI.
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I would have agreed with this up until March, when I tore my ACL by hyperextending my knee. :thumbdown:
 
baconisgood said:
ImTheScientist said:
This is why you don't draft early :shrug:
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Of course it works both ways- with opponents losing players to injuries and snagging guys in the 15th round who would be top 100 picks a month from now.
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Exactly :yes:One of the byproducts of being in this business is doing a lot of drafts and, therefore, in order to make time for them all we have early drafts all the way through right before the season drafts. I think there are arbitrage situations on both ends. Sure, you run the risk of injuries happening if you draft early. But on the other hand you have more opportunity to buy low early, as well. For example, in the FBG Staff Mock, I took Terrell Owens late with the premise that he would be on a team sooner rather than later. I would now have to draft him five or six rounds earlier. Similarly, those who were willing to draft Welker late knowing he might miss 6+ games, are now looking like champs b/c Welker seems ready to possibly play a full season.
 
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Jason Wood said:
baconisgood said:
ImTheScientist said:
This is why you don't draft early :shrug:
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Of course it works both ways- with opponents losing players to injuries and snagging guys in the 15th round who would be top 100 picks a month from now.
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Exactly :yes: One of the byproducts of being in this business is doing a lot of drafts and, therefore, in order to make time for them all we have early drafts all the way through right before the season drafts. I think there are arbitrage situations on both ends. Sure, you run the risk of injuries happening if you draft early. But on the other hand you have more opportunity to buy low early, as well. For example, in the FBG Staff Mock, I took Terrell Owens late with the premise that he would be on a team sooner rather than later. I would now have to draft him five or six rounds later. Similarly, those who were willing to draft Welker late knowing he might miss 6+ games, are now looking like champs b/c Welker seems ready to possibly play a full season.
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Think you mean earlier, agree with the point though.
 
Donsmith753 said:
Jason Wood said:
baconisgood said:
ImTheScientist said:
This is why you don't draft early :shrug:
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Of course it works both ways- with opponents losing players to injuries and snagging guys in the 15th round who would be top 100 picks a month from now.
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Exactly :yes: One of the byproducts of being in this business is doing a lot of drafts and, therefore, in order to make time for them all we have early drafts all the way through right before the season drafts. I think there are arbitrage situations on both ends. Sure, you run the risk of injuries happening if you draft early. But on the other hand you have more opportunity to buy low early, as well. For example, in the FBG Staff Mock, I took Terrell Owens late with the premise that he would be on a team sooner rather than later. I would now have to draft him five or six rounds later. Similarly, those who were willing to draft Welker late knowing he might miss 6+ games, are now looking like champs b/c Welker seems ready to possibly play a full season.
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Think you mean earlier, agree with the point though.
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:thumbup: Good catch
 
FWIW:

Giants wide receiver Hakeem Nicks is telling friends and teammates he doesn't believe he suffered a severe injury when he hyperextended his knee late in practice on Tuesday.

By Mike Garafolo - Star Ledger 8/3/10

 
Some info from Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News:

-Sit tight. The #NYG say Hakeem Nicks won't be examined by doctors until "later today." Maybe MRI results will leak out earlier. Maybe.

-He is still in Albany. He didn't get sent to the hospital/docs in NYC. Not sure if that's a good sign or not. #NYG

 
identikit said:
Some info from Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News:-Sit tight. The #NYG say Hakeem Nicks won't be examined by doctors until "later today." Maybe MRI results will leak out earlier. Maybe.-He is still in Albany. He didn't get sent to the hospital/docs in NYC. Not sure if that's a good sign or not. #NYG
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Why would a high profile athlete go to the hospital? There is a team Ortho, Probably have their own MRI machine to limit the leaks.
 
More from Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News:

Two players say they saw Hakeem Nicks "walking around" last night and in good spirits despite his knee injury. He's very optimistic.

 
Hakeem Nicks heads to NY for exam

By Ohm Youngmisuk

ESPNNewYork.com

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- New York Giants wide receiver Hakeem Nicks will leave camp and head to Manhattan for further examination on his hyperextended right knee.

Nicks underwent an MRI on Tuesday night and the Giants are still gathering information on Nicks' knee. He will undergo another MRI in the city on Wednesday.

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AP Photo/Mike GrollHakeem Nicks caught 47 passes for six TDs last season as a rookie.

"We are still getting the test results," Giants general manager Jerry Reese said on Tuesday afternoon. "We are going to get a couple of different looks and we will send him to the city and have them take a look at it. We are hoping for the best."

Nicks injured his knee at the end of Tuesday's afternoon practice. Even though he was able to walk under his own power, he rode a cart from the field to the locker room. Shortly after the injury and prior to the MRI, a source said that the initial feeling about the injury was positive but nothing would be known until the tests results are in.

Nicks is a promising second-year receiver who could start opposite Steve Smith. "We are hoping it is just a hyperextended knee and that he will be OK but we said the same thing about (Domenik) Hixon," Reese said of the team's punt returner who suffered a season-ending ACL injury during the team's first practice at the New Meadowlands Stadium. "Until the test results are in I will reserve my comments."

The Giants sent center Shaun O'Hara to the Hospital for Special Surgery to have his swollen left ankle examined on Tuesday and they got good news after an MRI revealed no further damage and a chronic condition in his joint.

Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com. Follow him on Twitter.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5437075

 
I'm not a doctor and this is purely a layman's reaction, but it seems to me that if you have an MRI and then are scheduled to have another, the results aren't exactly as rosy as we are hoping for. I mean if he got the "it's all clear, give it some rest for a few days" diagnosis, they wouldn't feel the need for further inspection, right?

 
Jason Wood said:
I'm not a doctor and this is purely a layman's reaction, but it seems to me that if you have an MRI and then are scheduled to have another, the results aren't exactly as rosy as we are hoping for. I mean if he got the "it's all clear, give it some rest for a few days" diagnosis, they wouldn't feel the need for further inspection, right?
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Its probably a tear of some sort if a second MRI is needed, but there is always the chance that they are being extra cautious, that the original MRI shows no tear yet they dont have a 100% certainty due to the equipment used there (?)
 
More from from Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News

'Nicks update: #NYG confirm he's been sent to Hosptial for Special Surgery in NY for a second MRI and exam by team doctors.'

The bolded worried me on first read, but after googling, that's the actual name of this facility.

 
Just a guess, but if I had to take a stab at this it would be that the main ligaments are fine ala ACL, PCL, MCL, LCL. Your run of the mill MRI of the knee usually picks up those ligaments very well. What it doesn't pick up with 100% accuracy is meniscus tears. Maybe he had a little swelling in the knee and they want to make sure the cartliage is not torn before sending him back to TC.

What different MRI procedure might be done? In the shoulder I know a radioactive dye can be injected into the shoulder that would pick up hot spots where the labrum was torn. They may be doing this exact same thing to the knee and needed to do it at a different facility.

 
gregjcross said:
Jason Wood said:
I'm not a doctor and this is purely a layman's reaction, but it seems to me that if you have an MRI and then are scheduled to have another, the results aren't exactly as rosy as we are hoping for. I mean if he got the "it's all clear, give it some rest for a few days" diagnosis, they wouldn't feel the need for further inspection, right?
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Its probably a tear of some sort if a second MRI is needed, but there is always the chance that they are being extra cautious, that the original MRI shows no tear yet they dont have a 100% certainty due to the equipment used there (?)
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Sometimes it's not always clear.I had an MRI and they thought that I had cartilage damage and an ACL tear but once they got into the knee (at the Hospital for Special Surgery by the same team that works with the Giants), found my ACL was just fine.This isn't a good sign, but getting an exam by the experts in NY isn't a sure sign there is something very wrong. Could be a just "we're not sure and we want to be sure" sorta thing. :lmao:
 
Hakeem Nicks heads to NY for exam

Nicks is a promising second-year receiver who could start opposite Steve Smith. "We are hoping it is just a hyperextended knee and that he will be OK but we said the same thing about (Domenik) Hixon," Reese said of the team's punt returner who suffered a season-ending ACL injury during the team's first practice at the New Meadowlands Stadium. "Until the test results are in I will reserve my comments."
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The bolded is what I've been worried about that has been rattling around in my head since yesterday.
 
From Pat Hanlon, Giants VP of Communications, via Twitter:

Hakeem Nicks is fine. MRIed last night in Albany, this AM in NYC at HSS and examined by Dr. Russ Warren. Everything checked out A-OK. #NYG
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From Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News:

Breathe regular everybody: The #NYG say Hakeem Nicks is "fine" after two MRIs and an exam. "Everything checked out A-OK" they say.

 
Ralph Vacchiano, Giants' beat writer at the NY Daily News:

The NYG say Hakeem Nicks could return to practice as early as tomorrow.

 
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