This can only be interpreted as a setback. He's out of my lineup till I actually see him produce in a game. It's crunch time, not many of us can afford a receiver who feels discomfort in the first quarter and gets pulled after a 1 rec for 9 yard performance.
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Harvin to Bills/ Formerly the Harvin to Hawks & Jets (1 Viewer)
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
You clearly don't follow the hawks or know a thing about how PC handles his people.... Pete said on local radio all systems go for Harvin. He holds some of his players out of practices every week. See lynch for example.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Uh, wat? He was in there returning kicks at the end of the half and played in the second half as well.
Bud
Footballguy
What kind of line will he post this week? I see several projections around the 4 or 5 catch mark with 50 yards. SEA is averaging 25 pass attempts per game which ranks 21st in the league. That seems to me right around what his floor should be any given week. Is there upside on this team for him to get 10+ targets and have some monster games? I guess we won't know until we see it actually happen.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
He's a big play guy - he can have a monster game - I'd say he'll be a better version of Tavon Austin from here on out.
Floor - 4 catches 50 yards
Ceiling - 6 to 7 catches for 150 and 2 TD's
Start him with confidence.
Floor - 4 catches 50 yards
Ceiling - 6 to 7 catches for 150 and 2 TD's
Start him with confidence.
Gopher State
Footballguy
On a snap count per OC
Floor 2 catches 34 yards
Ceiling 5 catches for 70 yards
proceed with caution, as the hawks coaching staff has said were not changing our playing style for Harvin
Floor 2 catches 34 yards
Ceiling 5 catches for 70 yards
proceed with caution, as the hawks coaching staff has said were not changing our playing style for Harvin
biju
Footballguy
I think it's a difficult one to predict.
Seattle typically runs heavy at the start of a game to set up the play-action pass. They have also spent time widening the field recently with bubble screens (mostly to Tate in recent weeks).
There are two scenarios I see:
- Harvin plays in the slot with Baldwin out wide and Tate on the opposite side. They use Harvin to pull the safety down and take shots to Baldwin on the outside (they did this against the Vikings with success). Furthermore, this isolates Tate on the other side with (presumably) Corey White which is a complete mismatch. In this case I see Harvin getting a shot or two downfield and perhaps a couple of bubble screens.
- They isolate Harvin and put Tate and Baldwin on the same side. This would force safety help over the top and put their top CB up against Harvin. This would make for more slants or shallow crosses. The targets might not be the same but it may produce more consistent results.
I really think only 5-6 targets and 3-4 catches is a reasonable expectation. Seattle, as you mentioned, doesn't rely on the passing game. Now if they end up down in the second half it could be a different story, or if NO somehow manages to keep Lynch in check. I honestly do not see that happening though.
CariocaSean
Footballguy
It might be a must win. We won't know for sure until the end of the season. But the Saints could easily look back at this game as being the difference. Yes, they'll probably make the playoffs if they lose. But they may not play any playoff games at home. You seem to be discounting Carolina as a legitimate threat to beat NO once or even twice.They play the Panthers twice in the next 4 weeks, the Saints is hardly a must win. Sounds like someone is already setting up excuses.Carolina breathin down your neck should make you nervous.It is a game they want to win it is not a must win. Spoken clearly like a Seahawk fan.
shadyridr
Footballguy
coach carroll said no snap count going forward. Did something change?
biju
Footballguy
Snap count for Harvin =/= Seahawks playing style
I'm sure you already know this, but the Seahawks are a running team first and second. They probably will not throw it to Harvin 10 times a game like he was receiving in Minnesota. I'm not sure what people are expecting here, but I don't think the addition of Harvin turns the Seahawks into a passing team.
Of course, I could very well be wrong.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
They don't have to for Harvin to get touches and be productive.Gopher State said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
nope.Gopher State said:
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Not putting him in my lineup until I see what the Seahawks do with him. Don't trust them at all. They seem to have no problem bringing in big-name guys to do nothing. Like Zach Miller. Hope this won't be the case with Harvin, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's nothing more than a flex-type WR rest of his career due to the way things seem to run out in Seattle. If that ends up being the case, what a waste.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
NFL radio has alluded to Harvin maybe not playing this week, but I have found nothing on this anywhere. Anyone heard this or have any sources?
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
RENTON, Wash. -- Seattle receiver Percy Harvin did not participate in practice Friday, which will lead to increased speculation about whether he will play Monday night against the New Orleans Saints.
Harvin
Seattle Coach Pete Carroll will talk to reporters after Saturday's practice, so he likely will give updated information on Harvin's status then.
Harvin, who had major hip surgery Aug. 1 to repair a torn labrum, made his Seahawks debut Nov. 17 against his former Minnesota teammates, returning a kickoff 58 yards and making an impressive fingertip catch on a 17-yard pass.
Carroll said Harvin was "a little sore" after the game, but nothing serious.
The Seahawks did not practice on Thanksgiving, but Harvin was listed as limited in practice Wednesday and only did rehab work Tuesday. Carroll said Wednesday the Seahawks will be cautious with Harvin the rest of this season.
"We will go day to day with how we take care of him," Carroll said. "So yeah, that's what we're facing, I think, probably through the entire finish of the regular season."
Everyone else was a full participant in practice Friday with the exception of cornerback Brandon Browner, who is out with a groin injury while awaiting a final decision from the league on a possible one-year suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.
Harvin
Seattle Coach Pete Carroll will talk to reporters after Saturday's practice, so he likely will give updated information on Harvin's status then.
Harvin, who had major hip surgery Aug. 1 to repair a torn labrum, made his Seahawks debut Nov. 17 against his former Minnesota teammates, returning a kickoff 58 yards and making an impressive fingertip catch on a 17-yard pass.
Carroll said Harvin was "a little sore" after the game, but nothing serious.
The Seahawks did not practice on Thanksgiving, but Harvin was listed as limited in practice Wednesday and only did rehab work Tuesday. Carroll said Wednesday the Seahawks will be cautious with Harvin the rest of this season.
"We will go day to day with how we take care of him," Carroll said. "So yeah, that's what we're facing, I think, probably through the entire finish of the regular season."
Everyone else was a full participant in practice Friday with the exception of cornerback Brandon Browner, who is out with a groin injury while awaiting a final decision from the league on a possible one-year suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I don't think you understand the term "equating" if you think that's what I did.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Who knows what Carroll has up his sleeve. He might be trying to pull a fast one and Harvin is full go against the Saints. They need him.
biju
Footballguy
Just like they did the rest of the season. The Seahawks don't need Harvin to beat the Saints.
identikit
Footballguy
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Source: #Seahawks WR Percy Harvin's surgically repaired hip flared up again. He's seeing doctors today, but his status for MNF is in doubt.
Source: #Seahawks WR Percy Harvin's surgically repaired hip flared up again. He's seeing doctors today, but his status for MNF is in doubt.
shadyridr
Footballguy
wrong again
shadyridr
Footballguy
boom shocka locka
Phenix
Footballguy
I was just about to say, he is ok to drop in redraft right?
A flare up? Not good at all, especially if you cant trust him in week 14.
identikit
Footballguy
Phenix
Footballguy
No good, his fantasy season is now over. Cut him already as his value is no good heading into playoffs. What a waste of a roster spot for weeks.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
So he rushed back and now seems to have had a significant setback. Original outlook to return was week 13-14, right? What a mess.
cstu
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
cusefan115
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Tates looking more Golden
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Well kinda, given his performance two weeks ago. I guess you know more about these things than Dr. Jene. Congrats, they should give you a job on staff here.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Poor Scientist. 
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Hey now Andy, it's not like he is out for the season. Soreness is expected when someone is coming back from something like this.Poor Scientist.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
buck naked
Footballguy
Soreness still after a bye week? It is really surprising and disappointing. This is not good for Percy.Hey now Andy, it's not like he is out for the season. Soreness is expected when someone is coming back from something like this.Poor Scientist.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
BUST
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Ya. He had a major surgery.Soreness still after a bye week? It is really surprising and disappointing. This is not good for Percy.Hey now Andy, it's not like he is out for the season. Soreness is expected when someone is coming back from something like this.Poor Scientist.
