my man otis
Footballguy
LOL, you'd bankrupt Vegas & AC w/ thoughts like this! FF is just another form of gambling, let's be honest. It's not all luck, and it's better odds than Vegas/AC.
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Has the luck factor turned you off to FF (1 Viewer)
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videoguy505
Footballguy
Just as much luck as poker.
mlball77
Footballguy
I've had a couple of 1 loss regular seasons, where I was the top team in the league, and then was knocked out in the first round of the playoffs. Conversely, its happened where I limped into the playoffs and won a couple games to take the championship, when I clearly was not even close to the top team for the year.
If you use a single elimination playoff system in FF, which almost all leagues do, there is definitely a big luck factor involved. ANYTHING can happen in one game.
Making the playoffs typically takes some skill and dedication, winning the playoffs is much more dictated by the luck factor.
I don't play in any money leagues, so the way I look at it is if I make the playoffs at all then I had a good year.
If you use a single elimination playoff system in FF, which almost all leagues do, there is definitely a big luck factor involved. ANYTHING can happen in one game.
Making the playoffs typically takes some skill and dedication, winning the playoffs is much more dictated by the luck factor.
I don't play in any money leagues, so the way I look at it is if I make the playoffs at all then I had a good year.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
Poker = lot of luckChess = nearly all skillOn top of that, chess beats poker as the better game any day of the week.
Rovers
Footballguy
No doubt about it..... luck is and will always be a BIG factor in FF. The past two years in my local, I've lost 4 or 5 of my top 6 draft picks to injuries. This year it was Portis, K Jones, F Taylor, Hasselback.... only S Smith who was actually injured when I drafted him stayed healthy.
In my 16 team IDP dynasty league, I played a division rival 3 times, including the wild card game. Despite averaging 10 points a week better than him, I lost all 3 times. That put me out of the $. All it takes is for one or two players player to have a monster week, like R Bush or Brees did a few weeks ago...
You do your best in the draft, but when you lose 5 of your best 6 LB's.... that's just luck.... bad luck. How many teams that had Tomlinson didn't make their league's playoffs this year? Sure, we all knew how good he was, but no one could have accurately predicted what he has done this year. When it comes to FF, I'd rather be lucky than good if I had to choose one or the other.
In my 16 team IDP dynasty league, I played a division rival 3 times, including the wild card game. Despite averaging 10 points a week better than him, I lost all 3 times. That put me out of the $. All it takes is for one or two players player to have a monster week, like R Bush or Brees did a few weeks ago...
You do your best in the draft, but when you lose 5 of your best 6 LB's.... that's just luck.... bad luck. How many teams that had Tomlinson didn't make their league's playoffs this year? Sure, we all knew how good he was, but no one could have accurately predicted what he has done this year. When it comes to FF, I'd rather be lucky than good if I had to choose one or the other.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Having been on both sides of the luck factor in FF before, it can be frustrating. However, good owners always have a chance. My teams are always in contention (I am probably looking at being the runner-up this year, unless I get really lucky tonight), and I have won the whole ball and wax four times (in around ten years of playing, and I usually play in only one or two leagues a year). Conversely, I know a guy whose teams always stink.
fsufan
Footballguy
MJD was drafted 2.18 in my main dynasty league. I remember the guy saying
Did you really think he was going to have the year he has had. Picking him up off the WW is not a skill move after a few big games, it is a smart move. I picked up Colston after his first big game but I did not think he would of had the year he had.
Rovers
Footballguy
Yep.... I picked up Copper. One was golden, the other just so-so, with the jury out for the long term. I do agree however that over a stretch of several (4 to 5) years, the better FF players will have more success than the lucky ones. Having said that, any given year will be good or bad based on luck. Sometimes one can find a nugget.... in the IDP forum I kept saying to trade Vilma for an RB before the season started. On the other hand, I thought McCariens was a nice sleeper the year before. Research, skill and knowledge will win out in the long term, but any given year will be luck-based. Buckhalter just scored for Philly on a goal line run. I'm SURE the guy (Westbrook) me and my pard are playing is cursing his luck right now. Having Westbrook was a skillful roster addition.... having him lose that TD to Buckhalter..... I'd call that bad luck.
scott72
Footballguy
The guy is my local $ league drafted his team out of a Sports Illustrated magazine. Had no clue who to take when. Wasn't even close to being prepared for the draft. He's playing in the Championship game this week. He's hardly scored any pts in the game, but luckily for him his opponent hasn't done anything either which is amazing since his opponent leads the league in scoring. Just dumb luck for this guy all year.
I may give up on money leagues next year because of this. It sucks to do all the research and feel so good about your team only to take a loss because of a monster game by one player on the opponents team, or a last second FG, or a kick return (which happened to me 3 times this year).
Ok, I"m done
I may give up on money leagues next year because of this. It sucks to do all the research and feel so good about your team only to take a loss because of a monster game by one player on the opponents team, or a last second FG, or a kick return (which happened to me 3 times this year).
Ok, I"m done
fsufan
Footballguy
I have seen guys show up to our dynasty draft with no info. They ask me for help and/or my cheatsheets.The guy is my local $ league drafted his team out of a Sports Illustrated magazine. Had no clue who to take when. Wasn't even close to being prepared for the draft. He's playing in the Championship game this week. He's hardly scored any pts in the game, but luckily for him his opponent hasn't done anything either which is amazing since his opponent leads the league in scoring. Just dumb luck for this guy all year. I may give up on money leagues next year because of this. It sucks to do all the research and feel so good about your team only to take a loss because of a monster game by one player on the opponents team, or a last second FG, or a kick return (which happened to me 3 times this year). Ok, I"m done
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
LUCK???? what luck its all skill in FF..guess you lost this season HUH?fsufan said:I have been playing FF for 9 years. I have played in 25 to 30 TD, redraft, keeper and dynasty leagues. The longer and longer I play the more I come to realize that FF is nothing but luck. My turn off has nothing to do with losing or not winning it all. I have won division titles, regular season titles and one Superbowl. Hell I have made $ or broke even over the past 5 years.
I asked my self
self, why are you putting so much time and effort into this hobby but your hard work does not pay off at the end. And others who do not put a third of the time, effort into FF and really do not follow the NFL as you do but they are being rewarded because of the LUCK factor.
Do not get me wrong I will be playing FF in 2007, just going to only play in my 2 local dynasty $ league which I also run. This is just my vent and/or #####ing about the luck factor in FF.
I was just wondering if you have been turned off to FF because of the luck factor or any other reason.
Here I will get thisand this
out of the way.
Merry Xmas to all
Diamond One
Footballguy
Thought there wasn't supposed to be any in fantasy football...
Oh hell yeah, luck is involved. Play in two leagues (one for 10 years, the other for 4), ranked as the second & third in total points this season, but failed to make the playoffs in either league. Oh well, that's why it's called fantasy. After this crappy year, I'm looking even more forward to the 2007 season!
On that note, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL and if you please don't drive; you could hit a bump and spill your beer! Seriously, be safe...
in fantasy football...Oh hell yeah, luck is involved. Play in two leagues (one for 10 years, the other for 4), ranked as the second & third in total points this season, but failed to make the playoffs in either league.
Oh well, that's why it's called fantasy. After this crappy year, I'm looking even more forward to the 2007 season!On that note, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL and if you
please don't drive; you could hit a bump and spill your beer! Seriously, be safe...
videoguy505
Footballguy
You ever read Moneyball? Basically concedes that pro sports is the exact same. You do your best to get to the postseason, but with small sample sizes (whether its single game playoffs or 7 game series), variance takes over at the end.
Mozeta
Footballguy
The regular season in FF can take a lot of skill if you want a top team. However if your league is made up mostly of guppies, then chances are a few of them will make the playoffs and once the playoffs start, FF is almost completely luck in H2H leagues. In the past 2 years using FBG and the DD I have finished the regular season a combined 24-4 and won my regular season both years easily and outscored my opponents by an average of 15 points per game. In the playoffs, as of tonight, I am a combined 0-4 and have not won a cent of the payouts.
I can contribute most of that to luck, but I would also like to give a big thanks out there to the FG cheat sheets the last two weeks which have been about as valuable as a gallstone. It just seems like they take whoever did good last week and move them up in the rankings this week. I know I should have known better and can blame no one but myself, but I lost tonight by 3 points because I was persuaded to start Marrion Barber III (0 points) instead of Ron Dayne and his 28 points. I won’t even mention how I lost last week, but it’s similar.
I can contribute most of that to luck, but I would also like to give a big thanks out there to the FG cheat sheets the last two weeks which have been about as valuable as a gallstone. It just seems like they take whoever did good last week and move them up in the rankings this week. I know I should have known better and can blame no one but myself, but I lost tonight by 3 points because I was persuaded to start Marrion Barber III (0 points) instead of Ron Dayne and his 28 points. I won’t even mention how I lost last week, but it’s similar.
GrandpaRox
Footballguy
A 6-7 team just won the title game in one of my Zealots leagues, yeah I would say luck has quite a bit to do with it.
fsufan
Footballguy
in my main dynasty league I have 57-21 the past 6 years, I have won my division 5 of the past 6 years, the regular season title the past 4 years and 5 out of the last 6 years. But I only have 1 superbowl
fsufan
Footballguy
in 2000 in my main dynasty league we had a team win the division and the superbowl with a 5-6-2 record
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Not me - I look at it as fun. Maybe that's why the luck factor doesn't bother me as much, even though I want to win as badly as anyone else. But I accept the fact that there's way too much out of my control & that all the knowledge, planning, & foresight can't stop your season from turning to **** sometimes. I certainly wouldn't play FF where the money involved takes the fun out of it.
guest 54788
Prince of ShantyTown
I believe that luck is a key ingredient in FF (it does take some knowledge and work also though). How else do you explain the times when a rookie comes into your league and wins it all over the experienced guys?
As long as everyone in your league sees it this way, it keeps it fun. The only sour times is when someone wins and he believes that it all had to do with his ff acumen.
Prime luck example - a few years ago I won the entire thing in my big league. In the last game before the superbowl I was losing by 3 points with only T. Brady playing and the other guy's team finished. Dillon takes off and is about to score a TD and pretty much cause me to lose.
He ended up running into a ref and it kept him out of the endzone. Next play Brady throws a td and I win and go on to win it all.
As long as everyone in your league sees it this way, it keeps it fun. The only sour times is when someone wins and he believes that it all had to do with his ff acumen.
Prime luck example - a few years ago I won the entire thing in my big league. In the last game before the superbowl I was losing by 3 points with only T. Brady playing and the other guy's team finished. Dillon takes off and is about to score a TD and pretty much cause me to lose.
He ended up running into a ref and it kept him out of the endzone. Next play Brady throws a td and I win and go on to win it all.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
While some of your points may make some sense, it's usually not as simple as you make it. I will never enter a points-only league because at least half of the league is finished around week 6-7-8. Happens all the time in my league that pays out to both total points and H2H. Sure, the "best" team may win, if you start the correct players each week, but that's not much fun if an LT2 squad runs away with it because they had the #1 or #2 pick. I would imagine these leagues come down to two/three teams with legit shots in week 16, if that, each year.What does suck about H2H sometimes....the LT2 owner in my league scored the most points, finished 9-5, only scored under 90pts twice (very good), didn't win his division (a "lucky" team won it) and didn't make the playoffs b/c he lost to the other 9-5 team for the wild card. This league does not reward anything for total points, and this clearly shows why it should.This particular league is a Dynasty. We also use the playoff system to determine who'll be pick at what spot for next years draft. This prevents owner from tanking.It's a redraft league. We randomly select the draft order via a Dice Server. Clean slate going into every season.So, how do you handle guys from tanking in this style? (Worst team get best draft pick)You got it. Total points accumulated from week #1 to week #16.I see, so it's just total points leader at the end of the year?Because we don't have a playoffs. Every single team is alive through week #16. If a team makes a run toward the end of the season with a Maurice Jones Drew, more power to them.How so?This type of thing does not happen in total points leagues.This is exactly what happened to me, I went 14-0 and lost in the first round to someone who backed in. MJD propelled him to the Championship game and he has officially won.qimqam said:
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Ya, a little. I was 13-2 in both my leagues and in the championship game. Both leagues I was point leader as well and lost the championship in both leagues to a 8-6 team, a team that probably was lucky to be 8-6 because he was in the bottom 4 in the league in overall points for.
So, ya it sucks. But I'll also be honost in saying I've won championships before where there was a "better" team than mine and I was just lucky enough that week to get the big win. But there's definately a luck componenet involved but if there were automatic winners, then why play the game.
So, ya it sucks. But I'll also be honost in saying I've won championships before where there was a "better" team than mine and I was just lucky enough that week to get the big win. But there's definately a luck componenet involved but if there were automatic winners, then why play the game.
DoGdr
Footballguy
I have been very humble this year despite Having the TP lead but 10%, best winning %, finishing on a 11 game winnig streak and winning my league, because I have LT and I know just how much of a difference he makes. He is like starting an\ extra Rb every week. I got him because I was lucky enough to draw the top draft pick last year (we can retain one for a fee that increases each year). I have had better teams and lost.
I generally do well in the regular season in my league and have won 4 times so think a willingness to do the research, pay attention, and make moves to get bettermake teams more likel to win.
I did get frustrated this year because a guy that had two players who did not play (I don't think he has change his starters in weeks)won in the semi's over a guy who made all sorts of moves to improve his team.
I spent too much time on this stuff (ask my wife) but I enjoy it emensely. So luck or not i will likely stay with it.
I generally do well in the regular season in my league and have won 4 times so think a willingness to do the research, pay attention, and make moves to get bettermake teams more likel to win.
I did get frustrated this year because a guy that had two players who did not play (I don't think he has change his starters in weeks)won in the semi's over a guy who made all sorts of moves to improve his team.
I spent too much time on this stuff (ask my wife) but I enjoy it emensely. So luck or not i will likely stay with it.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
As much as many folks think it is weak, I have become much more attracted to leagues where you don't submit lineups. I agree that luck plays a significant role in the outcome of a game. However, eliminating lineups (and just taking the highest scorers at each spot) minimizes the luck factor and rewards owners for assembling the most talent possible. Yes, luck still plays a relatively large part, and you more often get burnt by some fringe player having a career game. But I also find that when looking at year end results, the best teams almost always end up at the top of the pile while the worst teams remain at the bottom.
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
The answer to your question for me is NO. The "luck" factor has not deterred my zeal for Fantasy Football, however it has channeled where and how I participate.
I enjoy the analysis and such as much as any part of my participation. I look at SoS, match-ups, the last 3 weeks of performance, the last 5 weeks of performance, average and standard deviation of performance; historical performance. I spend a great deal of time assessing my teams and any possible free-agents in order to maximize my performance each week.
My perspective is such though that I try to limit my participation and my stake in a competition which rewards "luck" more favorably than how I can impact the outcome.
What do I mean?
In the Footballguys.com competition this year I lasted through the first 7 weeks and did not make the threshold in week #8. In week #8, I had nearly 50% of my lineup out due to injury or the bye. The bye I had counted on, but not the plague of injuries I was subjected to. Certainly it was "luck" or more specifically bad "luck" which contributed to my demise. It was disappointing to be out of the competition, but my "stake" was $0 so I took it on the chin, picked myself up and started a new day.
I won't enter into a 12-Owner league because of the "luck" factor, or a H2H either if it is going to cost me more than $50. It's far to easy to lose for the season because of a single injury to a key player with no prayer of re-grouping. If it costs too much $, then it is far too frustrating to standby week after week and watch your team helplessly lose.
If I'm going to spend more than that amount of $ [which I do, do], then I enter into leagues where total points or weekly ranking allow for an Owner's impact to influence things with less degree of "luck".
I participate in a great league which awards ranking points to each team each week based on their points scored; the ranking is from 1 to N [the number of teams] from the highest score to lowest score. The winner of the league is the Owner with the least accumulated number of ranking points for the season. We also stop the scoring after Week #15 so that all Owners have an equitable footing each and every week.
I enjoy the analysis and such as much as any part of my participation. I look at SoS, match-ups, the last 3 weeks of performance, the last 5 weeks of performance, average and standard deviation of performance; historical performance. I spend a great deal of time assessing my teams and any possible free-agents in order to maximize my performance each week.
My perspective is such though that I try to limit my participation and my stake in a competition which rewards "luck" more favorably than how I can impact the outcome.
What do I mean?
In the Footballguys.com competition this year I lasted through the first 7 weeks and did not make the threshold in week #8. In week #8, I had nearly 50% of my lineup out due to injury or the bye. The bye I had counted on, but not the plague of injuries I was subjected to. Certainly it was "luck" or more specifically bad "luck" which contributed to my demise. It was disappointing to be out of the competition, but my "stake" was $0 so I took it on the chin, picked myself up and started a new day.
I won't enter into a 12-Owner league because of the "luck" factor, or a H2H either if it is going to cost me more than $50. It's far to easy to lose for the season because of a single injury to a key player with no prayer of re-grouping. If it costs too much $, then it is far too frustrating to standby week after week and watch your team helplessly lose.
If I'm going to spend more than that amount of $ [which I do, do], then I enter into leagues where total points or weekly ranking allow for an Owner's impact to influence things with less degree of "luck".
I participate in a great league which awards ranking points to each team each week based on their points scored; the ranking is from 1 to N [the number of teams] from the highest score to lowest score. The winner of the league is the Owner with the least accumulated number of ranking points for the season. We also stop the scoring after Week #15 so that all Owners have an equitable footing each and every week.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Eliminate the luck in LHUCKS and you get HS
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't think it's weak, I'm starting to lean that way myself. I don't want to be in any format ALL or nothing, I like different kinds but this one seems as fair as any. LOL, you made me think to my league this week, lost in the final because I started Willie Parker over Ron Dayne. In your format, I would have won because of Dayne's monster week..........
Loan Sharks
Not a Wolf
I have been playing dynasty FF for close to 20 years. Luck plays a factor but I have seen that the same people win over and over again. Luck can win any given day but over the long haul FF is a skill game.
videoguy505
Footballguy
So the guy who spent $1 on Colston didn't get lucky? The guy who spent $60 on Shaun Alexander didn't get unlucky?
videoguy505
Footballguy
You don't have fun gambling? That's all gambling is, is paying for entertainment. Only the sorriest of people walks up to a roulette wheel and looks at it as an "investment". Everyone else knows they're going to have fun at the hands of the fates.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
No he didn't...I drafted Colston late in several drafts this year...ask Rudnicki.
Warpig
Footballguy
You can't go wrong starting MBIII over Dayne 99% of the time. MBIII is/was leading the NFC in TD's wasn't he? And Dallas insists on incorporating him in the game even if it has a negative affect on the team (3 chances from the 1 yard line?!?!). You basically have proven that luck is the trump card in FF. Though anyone would have known that any starting RB against Indy is a good play. But Ron Freakin' Dayne going for 150+ and 2? That means the appocolypse must be upon us!
my man otis
Footballguy
This is the wrong way to look at situations like MBIII vs. Dayne IMO. The indy running D cannot stop anyone, hence starting a hot RB getting most of the carries for his team over a RBBC RB (albeit a very good one) is the better play.Even if you disagree, whining and saying it's because of luck is a cop out honestly.Bottom line - the goal isn't to be right all the time, it's to be right most of the time. The skill will rise to the top and you'll win more often than not.
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
my man otis,
You are letting your "hind sight" blur your vision.
Just one week earlier the Indy Defense held the Bengals to 1 TD and R. Johnson to under 100 yards.
Expecting R. Dayne to "go off" and M. Barber to get zero points is not good logic.
In their previous meeting Dayne did not crack 40 yards and was held to less than 4 ypc and gave you less than 4 points; additionally Dayne hadn't broken 100 yards yet this season.
In their previous meeting Barber had more yards than Dayne's previous against Indy, and a TD for 10 points. In 4 of his last 5 games he had 10 or more points.
You are letting your "hind sight" blur your vision.
Just one week earlier the Indy Defense held the Bengals to 1 TD and R. Johnson to under 100 yards.
Expecting R. Dayne to "go off" and M. Barber to get zero points is not good logic.
In their previous meeting Dayne did not crack 40 yards and was held to less than 4 ypc and gave you less than 4 points; additionally Dayne hadn't broken 100 yards yet this season.
In their previous meeting Barber had more yards than Dayne's previous against Indy, and a TD for 10 points. In 4 of his last 5 games he had 10 or more points.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
If a 6-7 team even made the playoffs, then your league allows too many teams into the playoffs, meaning your regular season means very little, and as such, the luck factor is significantly higher in a league like yours.
scott72
Footballguy
Yup exactly, and when these guys pass you by and win it all it surely makes you wanna throw in the towel...I have seen guys show up to our dynasty draft with no info. They ask me for help and/or my cheatsheets.The guy is my local $ league drafted his team out of a Sports Illustrated magazine. Had no clue who to take when. Wasn't even close to being prepared for the draft. He's playing in the Championship game this week. He's hardly scored any pts in the game, but luckily for him his opponent hasn't done anything either which is amazing since his opponent leads the league in scoring. Just dumb luck for this guy all year. I may give up on money leagues next year because of this. It sucks to do all the research and feel so good about your team only to take a loss because of a monster game by one player on the opponents team, or a last second FG, or a kick return (which happened to me 3 times this year). Ok, I"m done
scott72
Footballguy
I didn't own either, but wouldn't you think the Colts would jump out to a quick lead on the Texans taking the running game out of the equation? That would have been my thought if I had to choose between the two. Barber was easily the best choice imho..Dayne owners got extremely lucky..
my man otis
Footballguy
What about the three previous texans games? Dayne got his regardless of the score.
my man otis
Footballguy
Rudi was an outlier IMO based on Indy's previous games. He still had 70ish yds and a TD or whatever it was, which is a decent week.I did not expect Dayne to "go off", nor did I expect Barber to get zero points. But judging by Dayne's previous three games I felt as though those 80/1 games were a good baseline. Plus Dayne was at home - divisional road games are always tight. Barber certainly wasn't a bad play - I did start him in a separate league - but Dayne was poised for the better week. This is good logic.Absolutely not a bad choice to go with Barber over Dayne if you had both, but losing to Dayne is not because a team was unlucky. That was my main point - apologies if it was not clear.Dancing Bear said:
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
my man otis,
Thanks for the clarification!
Thanks for the clarification!
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
Exactly right. The team that is best for all 16 (or 17) weeks wins.If that's "too boring" then stick to H-T-H. But don't cry and complain that luck is such a big factor.
fsufan
Footballguy
are there teams that are out of it about the half way point in total points leagues? Most of the time my two H2H leagues 1 or 2 playoff spots and division titles(gets a bye and pay $)are still up for grabs the last week of the FF regular season(week 13)
Redhots GM
Footballguy
It's the luck factor that keeps the lesser quality teams in the hunt for the playoffs in H-T-H. And that's what makes it worthwhile. But you gotta know goin' in that H-T-H has a lot of luck involved and when it happens to be bad luck for you... too bad.I'm in a H-T-H league that I dominated for most of the year in points and lost the championship to a team that was more than 500 points behind me in TP. As a matter of fact the 2nd highest point scorer was 368 points behind me. I could have taken the last three weeks off and still won in a TP set-up. Not much fun IMO.are there teams that are out of it about the half way point in total points leagues? Most of the time my two H2H leagues 1 or 2 playoff spots and division titles(gets a bye and pay $)are still up for grabs the last week of the FF regular season(week 13)
fsufan
Footballguy
I have also way done well in H2H leagues regular season when it come to have a winning record, winning division titles, winning regular season championships. By bad luck always falls in the FF playoffs.It's the luck factor that keeps the lesser quality teams in the hunt for the playoffs in H-T-H. And that's what makes it worthwhile. But you gotta know goin' in that H-T-H has a lot of luck involved and when it happens to be bad luck for you... too bad.I'm in a H-T-H league that I dominated for most of the year in points and lost the championship to a team that was more than 500 points behind me in TP. As a matter of fact the 2nd highest point scorer was 368 points behind me. I could have taken the last three weeks off and still won in a TP set-up. Not much fun IMO.are there teams that are out of it about the half way point in total points leagues? Most of the time my two H2H leagues 1 or 2 playoff spots and division titles(gets a bye and pay $)are still up for grabs the last week of the FF regular season(week 13)
Darth Cheney said:Life is a good deal of luck.fsufan said:I have been playing FF for 9 years. I have played in 25 to 30 TD, redraft, keeper and dynasty leagues. The longer and longer I play the more I come to realize that FF is nothing but luck. My turn off has nothing to do with losing or not winning it all. I have won division titles, regular season titles and one Superbowl. Hell I have made $ or broke even over the past 5 years.
I asked my self
self, why are you putting so much time and effort into this hobby but your hard work does not pay off at the end. And others who do not put a third of the time, effort into FF and really do not follow the NFL as you do but they are being rewarded because of the LUCK factor.
Do not get me wrong I will be playing FF in 2007, just going to only play in my 2 local dynasty $ league which I also run. This is just my vent and/or #####ing about the luck factor in FF.
I was just wondering if you have been turned off to FF because of the luck factor or any other reason.
Here I will get this
Merry Xmas to all
Actually, excellent posting.Hard work generally increases your chances of success, but nothing, and I do mean nothing beats being in the right place at the right time.
In one league 4 more yards by any WR or RB would have put me in the title game where I would have won (highest score in the league this week). It was grueling to watch Chad Johnson drop 3 passes last week, any one of which would have sent me to the league Superbowl.
I have done very well in FF over the past 5-6 years, but still, there is always a redraft league or three where a buddy's wife, who drafted her team based on the players looks ends up in the playoffs.
I am willing to bet that if you are 14-0 you have had a lot of luck during the season.Even in total points the luck factor is there. You can draft a great team but if they do not perform then it was not a great team. You cannot tell me that the playoffs is the only time a team gets lucky?qimqam said:
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Excuses and people whining about luck/games/results is a way bigger turn off then anything else.
Its life, deal with it. It even reflects the results of the NFL.
Its life, deal with it. It even reflects the results of the NFL.
