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Has there ever been a bigger non playoff game (1 Viewer)

The Jerk said:
cobalt_27 said:
SproutDaddy said:
You must have just started watching sports. How old are you?
:nerd: And, this is one of his better posts, if you can believe that.
The irony is that this game is comparatively meaningless. All it likely decides is home field advantage between these two teams. Significant, but by no means decisive. Assuming all goes as most expect, the game that matters between these two will be held in January.Meanwhile, the Ravens-Steelers game, for example, means much more in terms of who might win a division vs. miss the playoffs entirely.
Have to disagree with that. If the Championship game was in New England last year, I think the Patriots would have won it. A couple of years ago when it was in NE, the Colts would have had a much better chance at home. The winner of this game has what amounts to a two-game lead in the race for HFA. That's very important, and for these two teams, it's often decisive.
Well, if what you say is true, then the season ends around 7:30 or 8:00 p.m. on Sunday. Personally, I think there are bigger games still ahead in January. And home field, to me at least, is overrated. Important, but still overrated. Look at the recent history of championship games and you will see it is roughly a 50/50 split. Or are you suggesting that neither of these teams is good enough to win on the road. I understand it would be against the other.This year, it may be even less meaningful, as NE has a team that would seem to thrive more indoors in January, and Indy's strengths would seem to be augmented on a sloppy outdoor field.

 
As a Colts fan, I am looking forward to the game. Last year's AFC Championship game was the best game I've seen in my 40 years. I hope this one is as good.

Luckily my wife just delivered our 1st child together this morning @3:15AM. This should distract me enough to stay away from all of the silly threads this week regarding NE/Indy.

 
As a Colts fan, I am looking forward to the game. Last year's AFC Championship game was the best game I've seen in my 40 years. I hope this one is as good.Luckily my wife just delivered our 1st child together this morning @3:15AM. This should distract me enough to stay away from all of the silly threads this week regarding NE/Indy.
Hey man, congratulations! (why are you posting?)
 
As a Colts fan, I am looking forward to the game. Last year's AFC Championship game was the best game I've seen in my 40 years. I hope this one is as good.Luckily my wife just delivered our 1st child together this morning @3:15AM. This should distract me enough to stay away from all of the silly threads this week regarding NE/Indy.
Hey man, congratulations! (why are you posting?)
Thanks! Blackberry and wife/child are resting. :banned:
 
As a Colts fan, I am looking forward to the game. Last year's AFC Championship game was the best game I've seen in my 40 years. I hope this one is as good.Luckily my wife just delivered our 1st child together this morning @3:15AM. This should distract me enough to stay away from all of the silly threads this week regarding NE/Indy.
Hey man, congratulations! (why are you posting?)
Thanks! Blackberry and wife/child are resting. :towelwave:
:no: Congratulations, pizzatyme! :yes:Be sure to get yourself plenty of :boxing:
 
The Skins, Giants, and Eagles were all real real good in the late 80s. Seemingly every matchup was a great battle hard to predict and if you threw in a Bears or 49ers game against one of them, even better. At that time, I believe the NFC East was the best any division ever was or will be as far as week in week out entertainment. It wasn't parity because these were the teams. The Niners and Bears dominated their division and if they played the NFC East, that was their first battle in a while. So...you've got teams battling almost every single week(or so it seemed) and then later on in the season, the same battles become division winning or playoff deciding battles against teams you've played so often, with players that have played for them for so many years you think you know how they'll perform....the games became about winning the whole war, the nfl season, all the battles fought previously were important but just battles. Those were better than this.

While somewhat familiar teams, the buildup hasn't been anywhere near as much. Neither seems to have been tested but for the Cowboys and Titans games. Back then it was more like king of the mountain, this is more like two teams racing.

 
Has there ever been more hype.........no.

Has there ever been a game where we know that actually means more for certain, yes?

In all likely hood, this game will give the winner home field advantage, but we can't say that for 100 percent.

There have been many late season games where it went down to week 14 or 15 and the playoff pictures was defined more clearly.

As awesome as this game is, imagine if it was week 14 or 15, both teams were undefeated or even one of them had a loss. This game WOULD definately give home field advantage to someone. So, even this game could be even bigger just on timing alone however, with how well the Patriots are playing and of course Indy still being undefeated I don't remember a game getting so much hype and deservedly so.

 
If you don't like the thread or you dislike me, fine; just ignore it.
That's getting pretty difficult man. Seriously.. there are at least 4 threads about Pats/Colts already on the first page. This topic fits nicely inside each of those. No need to start a new thread for every single minute tangent from the existing discussion. For instance... in 2 hours when you debate the effects of home feild advantage in this game... there's really not going to be any reason to start a new thread. Seriously. Stop.
 
Any sport? Frazier vs Ali comes to mind almost immediately. I do have to agree with ICON et al., contrary to popular belief, you really do not need to start a new thread every time a random thought comes to you.

 
timschochet said:
I had this discussion with a friend of mine today. I can't think of any non-playoff event in ANY sport that has been bigger than this week's upcoming game. Much more than a football game, it has the feel of a championship boxing match. In fact, if you put it on HBO and charged pay per view of $60, I think it would set records. As it is, I expect it to be the most watched game ever outside of a SB. Can anyone think of a bigger non-championship event?
I can give you over 10 college football games every season that eclipse anything the NFL can muster.
 
Couch Potato said:
timschochet said:
Thanks guys, appreciate the love.

Actually, I've been watching sports for about 30 years, and I still say I don't remember a bigger non playoff event. But if you do, please enlighten me.
Well, there was Bugs Bunny against that big galoot in the wrestling ring that time...
You mean this guy?
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Or Gossamer?

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Both bigger matchups IMO.

 
Any game that is deciding two teams' playoff fates. This is the same "size" as any mid-season game between two teams who are playoff locks.

 
timschochet said:
Couch Potato said:
Actually, given time to think about it, probably one of the the most anticipated regular season football games I can remember was the unbeaten 85 Bears, with a defense no one could score on, going to Miami to play Marino's Dolphins on Monday Night Football. Marino scored on 'em plenty.
Actually, you've named the ONE game that might match this one, IMO. Good job.
It may have been surprassed, but for the longest time this Bears/Dolphins game was the highest-rated regular season game ever. This was in an era without the internet and while cable (read: ESPN) was still establishing significant market share. Of course this was also in an era before digital cable and the hundreds of channel options to choose from as well.I remember calling a Dolphins win, but my reason was weak..."Nobody beats Miami in Miami"...coming from a Pats fan whose team hadn't won there in 20 years. Plus, I hadn't watched much of the Bears so I didn't know how good that D really was.
 
Any game that is deciding two teams' playoff fates. This is the same "size" as any mid-season game between two teams who are playoff locks.
and two guys that will go down in history as two of the best QB's to play the game in their prime. I'm pretty pumped about it myself and I'm so old that I remember watching the 1972 Dolphins play. I hope the Colts stomp the crap out of the Pats, being from the south I have to hate the Brady Bunch.
 
Statorama said:
The last time a battle had this much importance, 300 Spartans were going up against 10,000 Persians.
What about Normandy? That was a regular season game
Even though we won, we still had to go to Germany for the final game. Stupid Europeans.
I was going to say when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, but the '300' thing seemed more topical.
:confused: Tom Brokaw will kill you.
 
I agree with OP. I can't remember a bigger game. However, the next big game that comes along will also take the place of this game.

At that point I won't be able to remember this game either.

 
timschochet said:
I had this discussion with a friend of mine today. I can't think of any non-playoff event in ANY sport that has been bigger than this week's upcoming game. Much more than a football game, it has the feel of a championship boxing match. In fact, if you put it on HBO and charged pay per view of $60, I think it would set records. As it is, I expect it to be the most watched game ever outside of a SB. Can anyone think of a bigger non-championship event?
a bigger game, was 1990 , when SF and NYG were on a collision course, both at 8-0, heading in to a week 10 matchup of supposedly unbeaten teams.Both lost in week 9..NYG lost to the Iggles..then went out to SF and lost on Monday Night, to SF..great game! :blackdot:
 
timschochet said:
I had this discussion with a friend of mine today. I can't think of any non-playoff event in ANY sport that has been bigger than this week's upcoming game. Much more than a football game, it has the feel of a championship boxing match. In fact, if you put it on HBO and charged pay per view of $60, I think it would set records. As it is, I expect it to be the most watched game ever outside of a SB. Can anyone think of a bigger non-championship event?
a bigger game, was 1990 , when SF and NYG were on a collision course, both at 8-0, heading in to a week 10 matchup of supposedly unbeaten teams.Both lost in week 9..NYG lost to the Iggles..then went out to SF and lost on Monday Night, to SF..

great game!

:blackdot:
SF won 7-3. Not a great game. The NFCCG rematch was classic, though.
 
Considering both teams will make the playoffs this isn't that big. Bragging rights, maybe home field advantage is all.

Pats by 21.

 
My nomination

Game of the Century

1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma

Main article: 1971 Nebraska vs. Oklahoma football game

November 25, 1971: The University of Nebraska, defending National Champions, ranked Number 1 with a 29-game winning streak, and led by flanker, Johnny Rodgers, who would go on to win the Heisman Trophy the next season, played the University of Oklahoma, ranked Number 2 and led by running back Greg Pruitt, a favorite for the Heisman this time.

The game was played at Owen Field in Norman, Oklahoma on Thanksgiving Day, on ABC in front of a national television audience. The game would decide the championship of the Big Eight Conference and a bid to the Orange Bowl. Despite Oklahoma's national prominence, gained in the 1950s, having slipped in the 1960s, and Nebraska not having a national following prior to the previous year's National Championship, over 55 million people watched, the largest TV audience yet for a college football game.

The game went back and forth. The Cornhuskers struck first, with Rodgers shocking the Sooners with a 72-yard punt return for a touchdown after the Sooners' first possession was stopped. The punt return remains one of college football's signature moments, though it remains controversial. Some observers and many Sooner fans claim Nebraska cornerback Joe Blahak appeared to clip Sooner receiver Jon Harrison as Rodgers stormed for the touchdown, but no penalty was called. Referees for the game have continued to deny that there was a clip on the play, even after having studied film footage of it.

The first half was atypical for both teams, as the Cornhuskers' potent offense was stymied by the underrated Sooner defense; meanwhile, the Sooners devastating wishbone offense was blunted by the brutal Cornhusker defense, as the Sooners had several turnovers and were continually frustrated by Husker lineman Rich Glover, who would end up with twenty-two tackles on the day.

Nebraska held a 14-3 lead, but Oklahoma came back, relying almost entirely on Jack Mildren's arm and legs, and the Sooners grabbed the lead at halftime, 17-14, on two long passes from Mildren to Harrison with just seconds left in the first half. For the first time all season, the Cornhuskers were trailing in a game.

Relying on a power running game, the Huskers retook the lead and led 28-17 going into the fourth quarter. Quarterback Jack Mildren led the Sooners back, and Oklahoma led 31-28 with 7:05 to play. The Huskers got the ball back on their own 26-yard line. Getting to the Oklahoma 48, Husker quarterback Jerry Tagge threw to Rodgers, who broke tackles and ran all the way to the 15. Jeff Kinney then carried four times, the last resulting in his fourth touchdown of the game, and Nebraska led 35-31 with two minutes to go. Sacks of Mildren on third and fourth down in Sooner territory finished the game off as a Nebraska win.

This game, much more than the previous year's National Championship, made Nebraska a program with a national following. Already having sold every seat available at their Memorial Stadium since coach Bob Devaney arrived in 1962, they would be a perennial National Championship contender and a frequent presence on national TV, with fans across the country seeing banners at Memorial Stadium reading "Californians for Nebraska," "Floridians for Nebraska," and so on. Nebraska native Johnny Carson (an alumnus of NU) would often take pride in the Cornhuskers' accomplishments during his monologue as host of The Tonight Show, and fellow Nebraskan **** Cavett would also mention them on his talk show.

The Cornhuskers went on to defeat the University of Alabama, by then ranked Number 2, 38-6 in the Orange Bowl, completing their back-to-back National Championships. Devaney coached for one more year, going 9-2-1, before becoming Nebraska's athletic director and handing the reins over to assistant Tom Osborne.

Pruitt ended up not winning the Heisman, which went to Auburn University quarterback Pat Sullivan. By a coincidence, Auburn was the team Oklahoma would end up playing, in the Sugar Bowl, and the Sooners won, 40-22. (By another coincidence, these two arch-rivals, Nebraska and Oklahoma, would end up playing each half of another nasty rivalry, Alabama and Auburn, and beat them both.)

Despite the defeat, Oklahoma's program was also relaunched by this game, and they would be a perennial National Championship contender throughout the 1970s and much of the 1980s. Oklahoma coach Chuck Fairbanks left the Sooners following the 1972 season to become the head coach of the New England Patriots of the NFL. Offensive coordinator Barry Switzer succeeded Fairbanks and compiled a 157-29-4 record from 1973 through 1988 and guided the Sooners to national championships in 1974, 1975, and 1985.

Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, considered a minor rivalry before this Game of the Century, became one of the biggest in the country, usually played on the day after Thanksgiving, until scandal caught up with Oklahoma in the late 1980s, sending it into a decline, which coincided with the rise of the football program at the University of Colorado, which began to replace Oklahoma as Nebraska's biggest rival.

Oklahoma would rise again in the late 1990s, as the Big Eight took on four Southwest Conference schools to become the Big 12, but since one of those four schools was Texas, and they already had a big rivalry with Oklahoma, that rivalry grew in importance. Since Oklahoma and Oklahoma State University were put in the Big 12 Southern Division, while Nebraska and the other Big Eight teams went into the Big 12 North, Nebraska and Oklahoma no longer even play each other every season, resulting in a further diminishing of that rivalry.

The Sporting News named the 1971 Cornhusker team the greatest team of the Twentieth Century in 1988.

 
Give me a break. It is a mid-season game with little impact either way on either team beyond any other game (a W or a L).

Lots of football between now and January.

 
I vote for the 49ers/Giants game that several have mentioned. Both teams were fantastic, 49ers were two time defending champions, Montana was in his prime, etc. The game was tense though.

One also that popped into my head was the KC game against 49ers when Montana returned to play a Young led 49ers. Chiefs were very good. 49ers would go on to win the SB. From a player vs. players hype aspect I think that was huge, many story lines- fans divided, etc.... Montana outplayed Young in an exciting game.....

 

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