Has there ever been a NFL draft where 0 QBs have emerged (1 Viewer)

[JAA]

I present the 2002 NFL QB Class (thanks to pro-football-reference.com)

1 1 HOU David Carr QB 2007 0 0 82 1316 2206 14026 62 70 285 1294 8 Fresno State 1 3 DET Joey Harrington QB 2007 0 0 81 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 3 8 0 Oregon 1 32 WAS Patrick Ramsey QB 2007 0 0 37 509 910 5911 35 30 47 89 2 Tulane 3 81 ARI Josh McCown QB 2007 0 0 46 609 1052 6582 35 40 123 572 3 3 10 0 Sam Houston State 4 108 JAX David Garrard QB 2007 0 0 40 521 864 6052 36 16 164 822 7 East Carolina 4 117 NWE Rohan Davey QB 2004 0 0 7 8 19 88 0 0 6 -5 0 LSU 5 137 CAR Randy Fasani QB 2002 0 0 4 15 44 171 0 4 18 95 0 Stanford 5 158 ATL Kurt Kittner QB 2003 0 0 7 44 114 391 2 6 8 13 0 Illinois 5 163 SFO Brandon Doman QB 0 0 BYU 5 164 GNB Craig Nall QB 2007 0 0 7 30 48 402 5 0 10 11 0 Northwest State (LA) 6 186 NOR J.T. O'Sullivan QB 2007 0 0 5 13 26 148 1 2 6 -12 0 California-Davis 6 205 STL Steve Bellisari QB 0 0 Ohio State 7 216 SDG Seth Burford QB 0 0 Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 7 232 SEA Jeff Kelly QB 2002 0 0 1 Southern Miss 7 236 BAL Wes Pate QB 0 0 Stephen F. AustinGarrard is obviously the only one who is currently a starter. He looks to have the job locked up, but exiting last season, not so much. Lots of the picks have had opportunity to be starters.Im thinking this years class is going to be close also.

 

[Jason Wood]

I present the 2002 NFL QB Class (thanks to pro-football-reference.com)

1 1 HOU David Carr QB 2007 0 0 82 1316 2206 14026 62 70 285 1294 8	   Fresno State 1 3 DET Joey Harrington QB 2007 0 0 81 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 3 8 0	Oregon 1 32 WAS Patrick Ramsey QB 2007 0 0 37 509 910 5911 35 30 47 89 2	   Tulane 3 81 ARI Josh McCown QB 2007 0 0 46 609 1052 6582 35 40 123 572 3 3 10 0	Sam Houston State 4 108 JAX David Garrard QB 2007 0 0 40 521 864 6052 36 16 164 822 7	   East Carolina 4 117 NWE Rohan Davey QB 2004 0 0 7 8 19 88 0 0 6 -5 0	   LSU 5 137 CAR Randy Fasani QB 2002 0 0 4 15 44 171 0 4 18 95 0	   Stanford 5 158 ATL Kurt Kittner QB 2003 0 0 7 44 114 391 2 6 8 13 0	   Illinois 5 163 SFO Brandon Doman QB  0 0				BYU 5 164 GNB Craig Nall QB 2007 0 0 7 30 48 402 5 0 10 11 0	   Northwest State (LA) 6 186 NOR J.T. O'Sullivan QB 2007 0 0 5 13 26 148 1 2 6 -12 0	   California-Davis 6 205 STL Steve Bellisari QB  0 0				Ohio State 7 216 SDG Seth Burford QB  0 0				Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 7 232 SEA Jeff Kelly QB 2002 0 0 1			   Southern Miss 7 236 BAL Wes Pate QB  0 0				Stephen F. Austin

Garrard is obviously the only one who is currently a starter. He looks to have the job locked up, but exiting last season, not so much. Lots of the picks have had opportunity to be starters.Im thinking this years class is going to be close also.

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

 

[MAC_32]

If memory serves the 96 draft was a joke too.

 

[MAC_32]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

 

[JAA]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

I think it is a ugly class. I watched a lot of Ryan and I have no idea where the love comes from. I think he is a bad QB, I wouldnt take him in the 1st 2 rounds let alone consider him at the 1.01. I think he has bust all over him.

 

[JAA]

If memory serves the 96 draft was a joke too.

nice. not even a QB in the 1st round

2 42 STL Tony Banks QB 2005 0 0 97 1278 2356 15315 77 73 246 881 6	   Michigan State 3 85 PHI Bobby Hoying QB 2000 0 0 22 244 456 2544 11 15 42 156 0	   Ohio State 4 100 DEN Jeff Lewis QB 2000 0 0 12 28 54 210 0 2 21 78 0	   Northern Arizona 4 130 NYG Danny Kanell QB 2003 0 0 43 491 956 5129 31 34 44 49 0	   Florida State 6 203 PIT Spence Fischer QB  0 0				Duke 6 205 IND Mike Cawley QB  0 0				James Madison 7 238 BAL Jon Stark QB  0 0				Trinity (IL) 7 240 GNB Kyle Wachholtz QB  0 0				USC

Banks did flirt for a while as a starting QB. Overall though I woudnt say he panned out

 

[Anarchy99]

1982

1-4 Art Schlichter Colts Ohio State

1-5 Jim McMahon Bears Brigham Young

2-17 Oliver Luck Oilers West Virginia

2-21 Matt Kofler Bills San Diego State

4-1 Mike Pagel Colts Arizona State

6-10 Mike Kelley Falcons Georgia Tech

6-15 Mike Machurek Lions Idaho State

8-23 Luc Tousignant Bills Fairmont State

9-19 Bob Lane Buccaneers N.E. Louisiana

9-28 Bryan Clark 49ers Michigan State

10-10 Ron Reeves Oilers Texas Tech

11-3 Steve Michuta Browns Grand Valley State

11-12 Bob Holly Redskins Princeton

11-17 Steve Sandon Patriots Northern Iowa

12-27 Dan Feraday Bengals Toronto

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

I think it is a ugly class. I watched a lot of Ryan and I have no idea where the love comes from. I think he is a bad QB, I wouldnt take him in the 1st 2 rounds let alone consider him at the 1.01. I think he has bust all over him.

Agree on Ugly class, but I disagree on Ryan. I see lots that will translate, especially the intanigbles.

 

[Anarchy99]

1980

1-15 Marc Wilson Raiders Brigham Young

1-28 Mark Malone Steelers Arizona State

2-9 Gene Bradley Bills Arkansas State

4-2 Eric Hipple Lions Utah State

4-6 Rusty Lisch Cardinals Notre Dame

4-18 Ed Luther Chargers San Jose State

4-26 Paul McDonald Browns USC

5-23 Gary Hogeboom Cowboys Central Michigan

6-7 Scott Brunner Giants Delaware

7-17 Craig Bradshaw Oilers Utah State

8-9 Todd Krueger Bills Northern Michigan

8-21 David Woodley Dolphins Louisiana State

8-24 Harold Bailey Oilers Oklahoma State

9-16 Dan Hartwig 49ers California-Lutheran

9-21 Turk Schonert Bears Stanford

12-3 Mike Wright Bengals Vanderbilt

12-15 Jimmy Jordan Patriots Florida State

12-27 Kevin Scanlon Rams Arkansas

 

[Jason Wood]

I think there's a big difference between saying it's a less-than-promising class and declaring that no one drafted will pan out. The odds are stacked against you.

 

[Doug Drinen]

The only drafts since the merger (besides 2007) which failed to produce at least one pro bowl QB were 2002, 1996, 1980, and 1976.

In 1997, the only pro bowler was Jake Plummer. In 1990, the only pro bowler was Neil O'Donnell.

 

[Bobcat10]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

 

[southeastjerome]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

I think it is a ugly class. I watched a lot of Ryan and I have no idea where the love comes from. I think he is a bad QB, I wouldnt take him in the 1st 2 rounds let alone consider him at the 1.01. I think he has bust all over him.

Agree on Ugly class, but I disagree on Ryan. I see lots that will translate, especially the intanigbles.

Agreed. I've watched a lot of Ryan including every game this year. He had the one bad game vs. NC State and his other games he was solid. He was bad at VTech for 3 quarters and then led them on a phenominal 4th quarter comeback including a TD toss that was one of the best plays of the entire college football season. And that game was in a monsoon. His arm is above average, but what seperates him is his pocket presence. He stays calm, is a great leader and is very detail oriented. I'm not saying he's the next Peyton Manning, or will come in his rookie year and tear up the league, but I would be very surprised, almost shocked, if Ryan does not end up a solid NFL starter over the course of his career.

 

[southeastjerome]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

Either that or he was thinking, "man, my QBs are Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson (63 career rating at the time) and Ken Dorsey. In that order. "

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

I think it is a ugly class. I watched a lot of Ryan and I have no idea where the love comes from. I think he is a bad QB, I wouldnt take him in the 1st 2 rounds let alone consider him at the 1.01. I think he has bust all over him.

Agree on Ugly class, but I disagree on Ryan. I see lots that will translate, especially the intanigbles.

Agreed. I've watched a lot of Ryan including every game this year. He had the one bad game vs. NC State and his other games he was solid. He was bad at VTech for 3 quarters and then led them on a phenominal 4th quarter comeback including a TD toss that was one of the best plays of the entire college football season. And that game was in a monsoon. His arm is above average, but what seperates him is his pocket presence. He stays calm, is a great leader and is very detail oriented. I'm not saying he's the next Peyton Manning, or will come in his rookie year and tear up the league, but I would be very surprised, almost shocked, if Ryan does not end up a solid NFL starter over the course of his career.

While I agree as well, I think the best QB in this draft will end up being Flacco. I really buy into the hype.

 

[southeastjerome]

Why would you think this year's class will be close? There are a number of QB situations around the league that are far from secure.

Because this year's class is not that good.

I think it is a ugly class. I watched a lot of Ryan and I have no idea where the love comes from. I think he is a bad QB, I wouldnt take him in the 1st 2 rounds let alone consider him at the 1.01. I think he has bust all over him.

Agree on Ugly class, but I disagree on Ryan. I see lots that will translate, especially the intanigbles.

Agreed. I've watched a lot of Ryan including every game this year. He had the one bad game vs. NC State and his other games he was solid. He was bad at VTech for 3 quarters and then led them on a phenominal 4th quarter comeback including a TD toss that was one of the best plays of the entire college football season. And that game was in a monsoon. His arm is above average, but what seperates him is his pocket presence. He stays calm, is a great leader and is very detail oriented. I'm not saying he's the next Peyton Manning, or will come in his rookie year and tear up the league, but I would be very surprised, almost shocked, if Ryan does not end up a solid NFL starter over the course of his career.

While I agree as well, I think the best QB in this draft will end up being Flacco. I really buy into the hype.

I plead ignorance to Flacco, so I won't disagree with you. I've never seen the guy play other than the random clips they showed during the combine.

 

[JKL]

The only drafts since the merger (besides 2007) which failed to produce at least one pro bowl QB were 2002, 1996, 1980, and 1976.

In 1997, the only pro bowler was Jake Plummer. In 1990, the only pro bowler was Neil O'Donnell.

And if it wouldn't have been for 330th overall pick Brian Sipe, the 1972 draft would have been a complete waste.That being said, I'm not sure how accurate we can be ahead of time in projecting just how good or bad a draft class can be. I take it people were saying the same thing back in 1984 and 1985, when there were no quarterbacks selected in the first round, and the first quarterbacks taken, in the second round, were, respectively, Norman Esiason and QB Eagles from UNLV. Or in 2000, when only one QB went in the first 60 picks (Pennington).

 

[B Maverick]

1982

1-4 Art Schlichter Colts Ohio State

1-5 Jim McMahon Bears Brigham Young

2-17 Oliver Luck Oilers West Virginia

2-21 Matt Kofler Bills San Diego State

4-1 Mike Pagel Colts Arizona State

6-10 Mike Kelley Falcons Georgia Tech

6-15 Mike Machurek Lions Idaho State

8-23 Luc Tousignant Bills Fairmont State

9-19 Bob Lane Buccaneers N.E. Louisiana

9-28 Bryan Clark 49ers Michigan State

10-10 Ron Reeves Oilers Texas Tech

11-3 Steve Michuta Browns Grand Valley State

11-12 Bob Holly Redskins Princeton

11-17 Steve Sandon Patriots Northern Iowa

12-27 Dan Feraday Bengals Toronto

Its the draft with the Punky QB who aint here to cause no trouble!!!!

 

[MAC_32]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

Either that or he was thinking, "man, my QBs are Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson (63 career rating at the time) and Ken Dorsey. In that order. "

Don't have a link as it was almost a year ago and I don't feel like digging through the Plain Dealer archives but he was quoted in there stating that Quinn is a better QB than anyone else who will be coming out in the 08 draft. If the 07 season had gone as bad as many had projected QB likely would have been #1 priority. While the national media thought we got robbed, the Browns knew what they were doing all along.

 

[southeastjerome]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

Either that or he was thinking, "man, my QBs are Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson (63 career rating at the time) and Ken Dorsey. In that order. "

Don't have a link as it was almost a year ago and I don't feel like digging through the Plain Dealer archives but he was quoted in there stating that Quinn is a better QB than anyone else who will be coming out in the 08 draft. If the 07 season had gone as bad as many had projected QB likely would have been #1 priority. While the national media thought we got robbed, the Browns knew what they were doing all along.

What is he supposed to say "yea, I think there might be a better QB's coming out next year, but f it, I wanted someone this year?" Not saying it was a bad move, but if the Browns knew what they were doing they wouldn't ahve done that trade and started Anderson from the season...and they'd have their first rounder this year. They clearly traded their picks away to acquire a QB, had they known Anderson would play like he eventually did, do you still think they make that move?

 

[cstu]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

Either that or he was thinking, "man, my QBs are Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson (63 career rating at the time) and Ken Dorsey. In that order. "

Don't have a link as it was almost a year ago and I don't feel like digging through the Plain Dealer archives but he was quoted in there stating that Quinn is a better QB than anyone else who will be coming out in the 08 draft. If the 07 season had gone as bad as many had projected QB likely would have been #1 priority. While the national media thought we got robbed, the Browns knew what they were doing all along.

What is he supposed to say "yea, I think there might be a better QB's coming out next year, but f it, I wanted someone this year?" Not saying it was a bad move, but if the Browns knew what they were doing they wouldn't ahve done that trade and started Anderson from the season...and they'd have their first rounder this year. They clearly traded their picks away to acquire a QB, had they known Anderson would play like he eventually did, do you still think they make that move?

Anderson had a good year, but we don't yet if he's a franchise QB. If he proves he is the real deal this year, they can trade Quinn and probably get their 1st round pick back. If Anderson disappoints, then they don't lose a whole lot.

 

[MAC_32]

Seems to me this is what Savage was thinking a year ago.

Either that or he was thinking, "man, my QBs are Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson (63 career rating at the time) and Ken Dorsey. In that order. "

Don't have a link as it was almost a year ago and I don't feel like digging through the Plain Dealer archives but he was quoted in there stating that Quinn is a better QB than anyone else who will be coming out in the 08 draft. If the 07 season had gone as bad as many had projected QB likely would have been #1 priority. While the national media thought we got robbed, the Browns knew what they were doing all along.

What is he supposed to say "yea, I think there might be a better QB's coming out next year, but f it, I wanted someone this year?" Not saying it was a bad move, but if the Browns knew what they were doing they wouldn't ahve done that trade and started Anderson from the season...and they'd have their first rounder this year. They clearly traded their picks away to acquire a QB, had they known Anderson would play like he eventually did, do you still think they make that move?

Of course not, but no one had any idea DA would do what he did. Seems like no one outside of Cleveland has any idea just how awful DA looked in camp. It was widely reported he had the leg up coming into camp, that leg was quickly knocked out from under him given his camp performance. Hell, he was almost cut. What we saw starting week 2 was the first sign of life out of DA as a Brown. To say that the Browns didn't know what they were doing regarding the QB situation is just plain ignorant, DA sucked until the season began. How it all clicked at once is still a mystery but fact is he did absolutely nothing before then that even hinted he was capable of what he did in 07. The only reason that wasn't Brady starting this season was because he held out, a blessing in disguise as it turns out. Savage and Romeo were on record stating if Quinn held out he was not starting no matter how good he looked in camp, he was clearly the #1 QB in camp but because of his hold out he was reserved to the bench no questions asked.

 

[tombonneau]

19801-15 Marc Wilson Raiders Brigham Young

Holy ####. I cannot believe Mac Wilson was a Top 15 pick. I remember when I was a kid and he played for the Pats, he was so bad he made me cry. I #### you not.As far as Ryan, I watched a bit of BC this year, and he is a clutch player. Two games that stand out from last year were the VTech game and the Bowl Game. In both games he literally willed his team to the win. The guy had ZERO playmakers on offense. I mean nothing. It's a joke. I'll bet you his WRs had the lowest YAC in the NCAA. They can't break tackles or make moves. You'd watch him hit Challenger on a beautiful crossing pattern that any above-average WR would take for 40+ yards and the dude would get caught from behind after 5 yards.Plus, I've seen him make throws that only legit NFL-caliber QBs make. And he puts them on the money. I saw some deep outs last year that were elite throws. One throw last year (might have been VTech) he was scrambling for his life, guys all over him, and just chucks it across his body on a rope. The dude makes plays. I actually am surprised so many people hate the guy. I guess because he played for BC and they have an ugly offense and aren't on a lot of national games.

 

[Finless]

Some of you guys should be scouts.