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Have we ever seen a list of free agents at WR like this? (1 Viewer)

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Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?

 
I bet Welker stays with NE

I think V-Jax and D.Bowe will be the top 2 who are actually available.

Colston seems like the kind of player that takes a huge step down at the next location (if he leaves)

D-Jax could be great if he'd keep his head screwed on straight.. I can barely stand watching his ridiculous on field antics.

Stevey Johnson - See Desean Jackson.. Get your head on straight kid..

 
I would add Laurent Robinson too.

Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign.

I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD.

Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?

 
Don't be surprised to see Brandon Lloyd sign with NE. He has already stated that he wants to follow McDaniels wheverever because he has used Lloyd like no other coach or coordinator has.

 
I would add Laurent Robinson too. Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign. I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD. Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?
Miami will not sign Manning. At this point in his career I highly doubt he wants to play for a non playoff team.
 
I would add Laurent Robinson too. Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign. I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD. Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?
Miami will not sign Manning. At this point in his career I highly doubt he wants to play for a non playoff team.
From what I've read, Miami is on Peyton's short list of teams he'd like to play for. I would think they'd be an instant playoff caliber team if he was healthy. http://arizona.sbnation.com/arizona-cardinals/2012/2/7/2781748/peyton-manning-rumored-to-be-eyeing-miami-dolphins-as-team-on-short
 
Don't be surprised to see Brandon Lloyd sign with NE. He has already stated that he wants to follow McDaniels wheverever because he has used Lloyd like no other coach or coordinator has.
That could be the biggest understatement ever (and yes, I agree he will likely end up in NE). They really need a bigger WR, but Lloyd, Welker and Branch would get them through the Brady era.
 
I would add Laurent Robinson too. Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign. I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD. Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?
Miami will not sign Manning. At this point in his career I highly doubt he wants to play for a non playoff team.
From what I've read, Miami is on Peyton's short list of teams he'd like to play for. I would think they'd be an instant playoff caliber team if he was healthy. http://arizona.sbnation.com/arizona-cardinals/2012/2/7/2781748/peyton-manning-rumored-to-be-eyeing-miami-dolphins-as-team-on-short
There could be a lot of unrest in the AFC East in 2012...my Jets could easily implode (to a 6-10 type team), the Bills are just not as good as we thought they could be, and the Pats have some tough roster decisions to make. I think this division is/could be a 2 playoff team division and as much as it pains me to say it, with Manning at 85% in Miami, they will get one of those two spots.
 
I expect Welker, Colston, Garcon and StvJo to resign with their current teams.

I would temper enthusiasm for FA signings at this position. More often than not, a WR changing addresses will disappoint as a fantasy option.

 
The list of quality free agent WR's is pretty good. If the 49ers don't persue and land one of these guys I think that'd be a big mistake on their part. Granted Alex Smith is no stud QB but Crabtree isn't the stud WR some thought he might be. If the Niners expect to go deep in the playoffs,if they even make it,in 2012 they're going to have to have someone better than Crabtree to help them.I'd like to see them get Bowe off this list. Don't want Desean Jackson and his attitude even if Harbaugh thinks he can change it, I think he'd eventually cause problems. Manningham most likely will leave NY with the emergence of Victor Cruz so he could be a possibility. Wayne & Burress are at the end so I'd shy away from them. Welker,Colston will probably resign with their current teams. So as was said V Jackson and Bowe should be the 2 most sought after FA's this offseason.

 
I'll be the Debbie Downer as there really is not that many options for a WR1 on that list (after) tagging & re-signing. Then the list is thinned out and you're looking at the past-his-prime's, injured and underachievers.

 
"There could be a lot of unrest in the AFC East in 2012...my Jets could easily implode (to a 6-10 type team), the Bills are just not as good as we thought they could be, and the Pats have some tough roster decisions to make. I think this division is/could be a 2 playoff team division and as much as it pains me to say it, with Manning at 85% in Miami, they will get one of those two spots. "

I might be missing something but I only see one tough roster decision for NE - Welker and he stays there. OL set other than Koppen was on IR this year. TE on rookie deal, 2 RBs on rookie deal. BJGE replacement level player, Faulk retires, Ocho walks, Branch will play for what he can get in NE and might not make the team with 2 1st rounders and 2 nd rounders and 20M in cap space. The D players that signed 1 year deals Warren and Carter WANT to come back and both have made their money so they are playing for a ring. Anderson signed a 2 year deal so 1 year to go. NE has gone from an old team to a middle of the pack team in 2 years and continue to get younger as players leave. Now if they could only win a SB against NYG.

Agree that NYJ has a tough road and need to hit on their first rounder. DE/LB would set them up nice. Key is development of Sanchez otherwise they need a dominant running game. .

 
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:Wes Welker - resignedVincent Jackson - goneDwayne Bowe - franchise tagMarques Colston - resignedDeSean Jackson - goneBrandon Lloyd - STL needs him but I doubt they pay himSteve Johnson - should be resigned, off field antics make me unsureMario Manningham - depends on demand. if its low, he's resigned. if "the catch" earned his 2mill more, he's goneReggie Wayne - gone but Indy would be wise to resign him for LuckPlaxico Burress - goneRobert Meachem - gone and expendablePierre Garcon - resignedSteve Smith - Im assuming this isnt CAR Smitty. I can see him going back to NYG if/with Manningham leaves Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
Outside of my above thoughts, Im not even sure who should be most sought after. I guess Id have to go VJax but DJax could be gold for the right team and is the youngest WR here I believe, Garcon might be younger but dont think so.
 
I would add Laurent Robinson too. Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign. I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD. Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?
I could see Wayne finishing his career back home in NO if Colston isn't resigned.
 
The Colts have said that resigning Garcon is 'a priority.' Don't think he'll be moving. But there are a ton of FAs out there - so someone will probably end up being a shock signing.

 
I would add Laurent Robinson too. Be stunned if Welker doesn't re-sign. I think VJax will stay, but Malcolm Floyd could leave SD. Wayne to Miami if Manning goes there?
Miami will not sign Manning. At this point in his career I highly doubt he wants to play for a non playoff team.
with a good qb miami is easily a playoff team. That D is pretty good.
If they draft Decastro, they could have 1 of the best o lines in the league. Defense is strong and run game is pretty set with speed and power. Wideouts are pretty solid too with a good QB.
 
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Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:Wes WelkerVincent JacksonDwayne BoweMarques ColstonDeSean JacksonBrandon LloydSteve JohnsonMario ManninghamReggie WaynePlaxico BurressRobert MeachemPierre GarconSteve SmithAnd there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts. Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
 
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one crazy thing would be if they all went dwade and king james and took less money to all sign with the same team it would be bascially an unstoppable force of mass destruction and they could line up six number one wide receivers and there is no way anyone would ever be able to stop it they would probably score just about every two or three plays unreal i dont even like to think about it take it to the bank brohans

 
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
Obviously this doesn't mean that it's a sure thing but:
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora doesn't see "any way" free agent Vincent Jackson returns to the Chargers.

The Union-Tribune San Diego has reported the Chargers don't plan to use the franchise tag on V-Jax. The sides are open to a long-term deal, but Jackson is set to break the bank on the open market. "There's too many teams in need of a wide receiver," explained LaCanfora. "Somebody's going to give him big bucks." LaCanfora lists the 49ers, Rams, and Bucs as three potential landing spots.
 
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
Obviously this doesn't mean that it's a sure thing but:
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora doesn't see "any way" free agent Vincent Jackson returns to the Chargers.

The Union-Tribune San Diego has reported the Chargers don't plan to use the franchise tag on V-Jax. The sides are open to a long-term deal, but Jackson is set to break the bank on the open market. "There's too many teams in need of a wide receiver," explained LaCanfora. "Somebody's going to give him big bucks." LaCanfora lists the 49ers, Rams, and Bucs as three potential landing spots.
Also, there's a very strong possibility that Colston leaves as well. He's stated he's not taking a hometown discount and the tone from things I've read make it more likely he leaves than goes. I also don't see how someone can say DeSean or Bowe stay put. There've been numerous reports of those guys looking to go elsewhere.
 
The list of quality free agent WR's is pretty good. If the 49ers don't persue and land one of these guys I think that'd be a big mistake on their part. Granted Alex Smith is no stud QB but Crabtree isn't the stud WR some thought he might be. If the Niners expect to go deep in the playoffs,if they even make it,in 2012 they're going to have to have someone better than Crabtree to help them.I'd like to see them get Bowe off this list. Don't want Desean Jackson and his attitude even if Harbaugh thinks he can change it, I think he'd eventually cause problems. Manningham most likely will leave NY with the emergence of Victor Cruz so he could be a possibility. Wayne & Burress are at the end so I'd shy away from them. Welker,Colston will probably resign with their current teams. So as was said V Jackson and Bowe should be the 2 most sought after FA's this offseason.
our past signings show it will be either Wayne or Buress
 
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:Wes WelkerVincent JacksonDwayne BoweMarques ColstonDeSean JacksonBrandon LloydSteve JohnsonMario ManninghamReggie WaynePlaxico BurressRobert MeachemPierre GarconSteve SmithAnd there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts. Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
It's reported that Chargers may let Jackson walk. If so, Desean Jackson, Mario Manningham or Pierre Garcon would probably be best fit as replacement.
 
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
HAHAHAHAHHAHANerds.

 
Also, there's a very strong possibility that Colston leaves as well. He's stated he's not taking a hometown discount and the tone from things I've read make it more likely he leaves than goes. I also don't see how someone can say DeSean or Bowe stay put. There've been numerous reports of those guys looking to go elsewhere.
Franchise tag.
 
'footballnerd said:
The list of quality free agent WR's is pretty good. If the 49ers don't persue and land one of these guys I think that'd be a big mistake on their part. Granted Alex Smith is no stud QB but Crabtree isn't the stud WR some thought he might be. If the Niners expect to go deep in the playoffs,if they even make it,in 2012 they're going to have to have someone better than Crabtree to help them.I'd like to see them get Bowe off this list. Don't want Desean Jackson and his attitude even if Harbaugh thinks he can change it, I think he'd eventually cause problems. Manningham most likely will leave NY with the emergence of Victor Cruz so he could be a possibility. Wayne & Burress are at the end so I'd shy away from them. Welker,Colston will probably resign with their current teams. So as was said V Jackson and Bowe should be the 2 most sought after FA's this offseason.
our past signings show it will be either Wayne or Buress
lol.
 
It's an interesting group of WR's, but really not anything terribly out of the ordinary, when you consider the marquee names will re-sign with their respective teams. I think the list of actual movers will be watered down quite a bit. That's just my opinion.

But I have been looking for some perspective to the list of WR's and upcoming free agency in general. I found an excellent article that speculates the upcoming 2012 salary cap. It describes all 32 teams 2012 Salary Cap situations. I think it does a good job of explaining who are the likeliest players in free agency.

Understanding the NFL’s salary cap isn’t easy, which is why every team has a capologist to crunch the numbers.

Placing the franchise tag on Paul Soliai again would eat up all of the Dolphins' cap space.

However, being able to understand your budget is important when it comes to knowing what economic lane you or your favorite NFL team fits in.

Some of us are ballers, and some of us are bargain shoppers. The same applies for NFL clubs heading into 2012 free agency. The Miami Dolphins are stuck somewhere in-between.

Here’s February’s look at where every NFL team stands from an NFL salary cap standpoint headed into the free agent signing period, which begins on March 13 for players who aren’t cut before then.

SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!

Before you dive into these numbers, and begin the speculation of what’s to come, it is VERY important that we point out a couple of issues.

First, the salary cap in 2011 was $120,375,000 soft, with teams having the flexibility to borrow $3 million from future years. That means the real cap was $123,375,000.

The salary cap for 2012 has not been set, but it is projected to be between $121-125 million, with teams being able to borrow another $2 million from future caps. Therefore, we’ll safely project the salary cap to be at $124 million in ’12. But please understand this is an estimation.

Second, keep in mind that teams must preserve at least $5 million to sign their rookie class. The more picks, the more cap space needed.

Third, understand that players and their salaries can be purged, or restructured to create salary cap space. However, guessing who that player might be is always risky, and complicated.

Finally, any player given the franchise tag receivers a guarantee of his annual salary, which is an average of the NFL’s top five players at his position.

So, last year Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai’s salary of $12.47 million was guaranteed fully, which means every dime of it comes off the books that season. A player tagged a second season receives a 20 percent raise, so if Soliai was tagged again he’d earn a salary of $15 million in 2012 (which is why he likely won’t be tagged again in 2012).

Now….here’s a look at the numbers, and the teams are broken up in three categories, which are explained.

POSSIBLE BIG SPENDERS

Teams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.

Cincinnati Bengals $80,641,237

Tennessee Titans $92,739,765

Washington Redskins $94,351,284

Kansas City Chiefs $95,844,195

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $98,899,458

Atlanta Falcons $100,227,174

Denver Broncos $101,389,121

New England Patriots $101,827,381

Chicago Bears $101,887,741

San Francisco 49ers $102,938,980

Cleveland Browns $103,789,162
WORKING ON A BUDGETTeams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.

Jacksonville Jaguars $107,270,274

Buffalo Bills $108,426,522

Seattle Seahawks $111,742,430

San Diego Chargers $111,960,165

New Orleans Saints $113,358,069

Philadelphia Eagles $113,964,694

Baltimore Ravens $115,670,281

Minnesota Vikings $116,078,422

Houston Texans $116,306,676

Miami Dolphins $116,636,173

Indianapolis Colts $116,773,288

Green Bay Packers $118,001,169

Arizona Cardinals $118,787,639
TIGHTENING THE BELTTeams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need to be.

St. Louis Rams $120,982,904

Detroit Lions $122,760,121

New York Giants $124,735,807

New York Jets $128,092,733

Dallas Cowboys $128,910,735

Carolina Panthers $129,962,768

Oakland Raiders $140,861,316

Pittsburgh Steelers $149,885,537
After taking a look at the early numbers my hope is you’ll understand why the Dolphins can’t do it big in free agency right now (quarterback upgrade is team owner Steve Ross‘ priority, then discount shopping from bargains) without restructuring plenty of contracts, or cutting a few high profile players.Also, keep in mind the free agent class will get enhanced over the next few weeks as teams try to get their books in order. Those players can sign with a new team immediately, but keep in mind they are usually damaged goods (injury history, declining play, problematic personalities, etc.). Salary Cap Projections for 2012 NFL Season
 
I think VJax is the pearl of this group with Dwayne Bowe second. I think Colston should have his head examined if he considers leaving NO.

I agree with the poster who feels Miami with Peyton is very different from the Dolphins we saw this past year. Miami has talent and with a strong QB is a contender. Not sure why the notion of them competing as a playoff team with Peyton at the helm sounds farfetched.

 
I think VJax is the pearl of this group with Dwayne Bowe second. I think Colston should have his head examined if he considers leaving NO.I agree with the poster who feels Miami with Peyton is very different from the Dolphins we saw this past year. Miami has talent and with a strong QB is a contender. Not sure why the notion of them competing as a playoff team with Peyton at the helm sounds farfetched.
I think Bowe is on a whole different tier than the rest. The dude is an animal and produces with piss poor quarterback play. Vjax while may be talented never could really get it going with Rivers. Maybe a change of scenery jumpstarts him.
 
"There could be a lot of unrest in the AFC East in 2012...my Jets could easily implode (to a 6-10 type team), the Bills are just not as good as we thought they could be, and the Pats have some tough roster decisions to make. I think this division is/could be a 2 playoff team division and as much as it pains me to say it, with Manning at 85% in Miami, they will get one of those two spots. "I might be missing something but I only see one tough roster decision for NE - Welker and he stays there. OL set other than Koppen was on IR this year. TE on rookie deal, 2 RBs on rookie deal. BJGE replacement level player, Faulk retires, Ocho walks, Branch will play for what he can get in NE and might not make the team with 2 1st rounders and 2 nd rounders and 20M in cap space. The D players that signed 1 year deals Warren and Carter WANT to come back and both have made their money so they are playing for a ring. Anderson signed a 2 year deal so 1 year to go. NE has gone from an old team to a middle of the pack team in 2 years and continue to get younger as players leave. Now if they could only win a SB against NYG.Agree that NYJ has a tough road and need to hit on their first rounder. DE/LB would set them up nice. Key is development of Sanchez otherwise they need a dominant running game. .
You are making a lot of assumptions in that (1) players just want to play for the Pats and could care less about $$ and (2) even if all these FAs give NE a home team discount, they can still afford it all under the cap. I get your point that they "could" walk away with who they want to, but who is to say guys like Ocho and BJGE (who I think they need actually) want to stay and Branch, Carter, and Koppen (who is much better than his replacement, Connolly, who is also a FA)...not saying it can't be done, but there are some decisions to be made in Foxboro.
 
POSSIBLE BIG SPENDERSTeams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.QuoteCincinnati Bengals $80,641,237
:lmao:Even with the playoff year, I'll believe this when I see it. Still the Bengals should be shopping at WR as Simpson and Caldwell are FAs and likely not back (nevermind Simpson's legal issues).-QG
 
I'm not sure the Patriots would ever drop the coin needed to land him, but VJax would be a perfect fit for that offense.

 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'Skeletore Eh said:
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
Obviously this doesn't mean that it's a sure thing but:
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora doesn't see "any way" free agent Vincent Jackson returns to the Chargers.

The Union-Tribune San Diego has reported the Chargers don't plan to use the franchise tag on V-Jax. The sides are open to a long-term deal, but Jackson is set to break the bank on the open market. "There's too many teams in need of a wide receiver," explained LaCanfora. "Somebody's going to give him big bucks." LaCanfora lists the 49ers, Rams, and Bucs as three potential landing spots.
Yeah it was funny to wake up today and see that report
 
"There could be a lot of unrest in the AFC East in 2012...my Jets could easily implode (to a 6-10 type team), the Bills are just not as good as we thought they could be, and the Pats have some tough roster decisions to make. I think this division is/could be a 2 playoff team division and as much as it pains me to say it, with Manning at 85% in Miami, they will get one of those two spots. "

I might be missing something but I only see one tough roster decision for NE - Welker and he stays there. OL set other than Koppen was on IR this year. TE on rookie deal, 2 RBs on rookie deal. BJGE replacement level player, Faulk retires, Ocho walks, Branch will play for what he can get in NE and might not make the team with 2 1st rounders and 2 nd rounders and 20M in cap space. The D players that signed 1 year deals Warren and Carter WANT to come back and both have made their money so they are playing for a ring. Anderson signed a 2 year deal so 1 year to go. NE has gone from an old team to a middle of the pack team in 2 years and continue to get younger as players leave. Now if they could only win a SB against NYG.

Agree that NYJ has a tough road and need to hit on their first rounder. DE/LB would set them up nice. Key is development of Sanchez otherwise they need a dominant running game. .
You are making a lot of assumptions in that (1) players just want to play for the Pats and could care less about $$ and (2) even if all these FAs give NE a home team discount, they can still afford it all under the cap. I get your point that they "could" walk away with who they want to, but who is to say guys like Ocho and BJGE (who I think they need actually) want to stay and Branch, Carter, and Koppen (who is much better than his replacement, Connolly, who is also a FA)...not saying it can't be done, but there are some decisions to be made in Foxboro.
Here is the salary cap from a fins reporter: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html . NE has $ to spend which isn't their MO unless they sign their own - WELKER and Waters. They've failed with Adelius Thomas, and a bunch of second class WRs before they got Moss. So I don't see a big splash there BUT if they were to do that BB would get someone that BB can't match up with and use him. That is how Welker ended up in NE in the first place. BB strikes out his fair share. Look at all the UDFA playing on the team (18ish). Waters gets an offer IF he doesn't retire for a year or two at OG average $ not Mankins $.At no point did I suggest a home town discount. It's the NFL if NE wants that $ to spend elsewhere, they cut the player(s) - Ocho falls in the catogory. They will ask Branch to restructure if it isn't to their liking. It is just how they operate. BB cut a WR the night BEFORE the superbowl and the guy couldn't wait to sign a futures contract once he cleared waivers. I get that isn't for everyone and might not be the case for Warren or Carter. I don't sea big market for Warren (same age as Seymour) and Carter was considered washed up when BB signed him. He most likely had a market before the injury that put him on IR. What BB does reminds me a little of the late 70's early 80's when Crazy Al Davis wasn't so crazy and found guys in the draft and mixed and matched a bunch of vets to fill in the holes. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

As for their OL - Koppen is a FA and is better than Connelly but how much better? I don't know. Neither one is as good as Manigold. Do you think that Koppen will be in high demand coming off of a major injury and being in his early 30's? On top of that this is the second year in the past 5 that Koppen has gone down early in the season and ended up on IR. NE had 4 different C start this year so a lot of teams look at it as scheme and Brady getting the ball out quickly so there isn't a lot of interest. I'm not saying he signs back for nothing but certainly not big money. In fact C might be a position they target in the draft Konz for Wisconson might be available at the end of the first and can also play OG. They have been using a LOT of high draft pick on OL the past couple of years to protect Brady. They've taken 3 OT in the last 2 years but will likely move Cannon from OT to OG when and if Waters retirees or moves on.

I think the funny thing is who leaves NE and does well? Seymour to Oakland comes to mind but who else? Cassell in KC? HOF Curtis Martin of course but then he signed for $$$$ money back in the day and the contract was structured so NE could really match it.

 
Steve Johnson - should be resigned, off field antics make me unsure
i have not heard of any off the field problems with stevie johnson. could you fill me in?
Well, maybe I shouldnt have said "off field" as he hasnt done anything illegal, gotten arrested, etc....but he seems to have sideline arguments with other players and coaches more than the average guy, sounds more interested in his own stats and welfare than the teams, which may have reached the precipice during the last game of the year when he was benched early on after scoring a TD and using a prop for his celebration (wrote something on his undershirt IIRC). So, if his relationships with the coaching staff and, to a lesser degree other players, is to the point where they dont want to have to deal with his shenanigans, he'll be gone. Dont think he's reached that point yet, but it wouldnt surprise if he was. I also think he wants to get paid and dont think he deserves/will get franchise tag type money.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'Skeletore Eh said:
Teams in need of a WR will have LOTS to choose from and there may be some very weird dealings due to the quality and quantity at WR this year. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this:

Wes Welker

Vincent Jackson

Dwayne Bowe

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Brandon Lloyd

Steve Johnson

Mario Manningham

Reggie Wayne

Plaxico Burress

Robert Meachem

Pierre Garcon

Steve Smith

And there are many more that would otherwise be worthy of mention that are gonna be after thoughts.

Which of these guys will be the most sought after?
I say welker, vjax, Bowe, colston, djax, Steve Johnson, garçon all stay put, which dampens the enthusiasm quite a bit. And Lloyd to NE makes too much sense, which honestly probably means it won't happen.
Obviously this doesn't mean that it's a sure thing but:
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora doesn't see "any way" free agent Vincent Jackson returns to the Chargers.

The Union-Tribune San Diego has reported the Chargers don't plan to use the franchise tag on V-Jax. The sides are open to a long-term deal, but Jackson is set to break the bank on the open market. "There's too many teams in need of a wide receiver," explained LaCanfora. "Somebody's going to give him big bucks." LaCanfora lists the 49ers, Rams, and Bucs as three potential landing spots.
49ers would be interesting since theyre the only team set up for a playoff run currently, but VJax and Smith's skillsets seem like about as bad of a match as possible.
 
Top contenders to sign with Jax and effectively end their career:

Vincent Jackson

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Robert Meachem

 
Top contenders to sign with Jax and effectively end their career:Vincent JacksonMarques ColstonDeSean JacksonRobert Meachem
this is what the call will be likedwayne gabbert drops back and his four wife receivers run great routes and are all wide open and then glabbert sees a guy in the stands buying a hot dog wearing a defensive players jersey and poops in his pants and then cries for a week and fumbles the ball and all four wide receivers quit football forever because blaine gabbert the pants filler has made them hate football and probaby life
 
Top contenders to sign with Jax and effectively end their career:Vincent JacksonMarques ColstonDeSean JacksonRobert Meachem
this is what the call will be likedwayne gabbert drops back and his four wife receivers run great routes and are all wide open and then glabbert sees a guy in the stands buying a hot dog wearing a defensive players jersey and poops in his pants and then cries for a week and fumbles the ball and all four wide receivers quit football forever because blaine gabbert the pants filler has made them hate football and probaby life
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Top contenders to sign with Jax and effectively end their career:

Vincent Jackson

Marques Colston

DeSean Jackson

Robert Meachem
this is what the call will be likedwayne gabbert drops back and his four wife receivers run great routes and are all wide open and then glabbert sees a guy in the stands buying a hot dog wearing a defensive players jersey and poops in his pants and then cries for a week and fumbles the ball and all four wide receivers quit football forever because blaine gabbert the pants filler has made them hate football and probaby life
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dwayne is way worse than that
 
per @EvanSilva (Rotoworld's take in blue):

Citing multiple NFL sources, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Eagles will place the franchise tag on free agent DeSean Jackson.



They'll be able to do so, formally, in eight days. As the Inquirer notes, tagging Jackson will leave the Eagles with three options: Franchise and keep him, franchise Jackson and trade him, or use the tag as an avenue toward a long-term contract. The third scenario is least likely, and the first one may be most probable. The Inquirer mentions New England, Baltimore, and San Francisco as potential trade partners. Stumbling blocks for a sign-and-trade include Jackson's at-time toxic attitude, the high pick it would take to acquire him, and the mega contract he most certainly wouldn't play without. Feb 12 - 8:34 PM







http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4659/desean-jackson

 
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