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Have you given up on Moss? (1 Viewer)

maddawg2020

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I've got Randy Moss (he was my 3rd round pick in a 10-team redraft, performance league). I've been offered some okay trades.

I want to hold on to him but am I stupid. Should I just cut my loses and run. Is there anybody else out there who is still holding on to Moss with hope????

 
Yes :yes:

He could be a 3rd receiver in most leagues, but don't expect more than that for the rest of the year. Bad team, OL, QB.... :X

 
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I'd hold...you won't likely get a decent ROI so you might as well stick and hope for the best. Moss has played better the past two weeks. If Brooks returns it would also likely boost his numbers. I think he'll be around 1000 yards and 8-10 TD by the end of the year...not what you drafted but nothing to give away either.

 
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I gave up on him last week in my dynasty league.....

I traded Randy Moss & Jerome Harrison,

for

Antonio Bryant & Brandon Jacobs.

I have no regrets.

 
Past three weeks he's shown signs of life.
At this point, I have stuck with him as my WR3 to a 6-0 record, so I am just standing pat unless I can get an upgrade to Holt or otherwise... He has started to show signs of life, and his targets have been going up, so things may be starting to turn.
 
yeah as a moss owner it is annoying to keep hearing how much he sucks.

i mean he is not doing great, but he is putting up points every week and it seems like we have seen the worst of it as far as this seasons raiders being a disorganized disaster. i hope....

it sounds like moss was enthusiastic at the denver game, supporting his team and all that.

 
I traded him last week for Braylon Edwards and have absolutely no traders remorse. Moss certainly has the potential to give you 120 yards and 2 TDs on any given week, but no longer has any consistency. I can't afford 3 weeks in a row of 30 to 50 yards, while waiting for him to go off. I wouldn't say his days are done. He is still a tremendous physical talent, but this year anyway, he is lacking a talented QB and he is lacking personal motivation. I'd move him in a redraft league for anything reasonable, but hang on to him in a keeper league.

 
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I traded him last week for Braylon Edwards and have absolutely no traders remorse. Moss certainly has the potential to give you 120 yards and 2 TDs on any given week, but no longer has any consistency. I can't afford 3 weeks in a row of 30 to 50 yards, while waiting for him to go off. I wouldn't say his days are done. He is still a tremendous physical talent, but this year anyway, he is lacking a talented QB and he is lacking personal motivation. I'd move him in a redraft league for anything reasonable, but hang on to him in a keeper league.
Yea, but Braylon Edwards?? That is consistency?
 
As a top tier receiver...yes, it's time to give up.He's a great WR3
Agreed. As long as expectations are tempered, he should be a decent producer, but his days of being a #1 WR are over for probably the year, though I wouldn't be suprised with a couple of blow up games with Brooks.
 
I traded him last week for Braylon Edwards and have absolutely no traders remorse. Moss certainly has the potential to give you 120 yards and 2 TDs on any given week, but no longer has any consistency. I can't afford 3 weeks in a row of 30 to 50 yards, while waiting for him to go off. I wouldn't say his days are done. He is still a tremendous physical talent, but this year anyway, he is lacking a talented QB and he is lacking personal motivation. I'd move him in a redraft league for anything reasonable, but hang on to him in a keeper league.
Yea, but Braylon Edwards?? That is consistency?
At this point in the season both are comparable and inconsistent, but going forward I think Edwards production curve is upward and maybe steeply upward. Moss has the potential to implode and possibly be deactivated this year ala TO and Philly last year.
 
I picked him up a few weeks ago basically as a throw in on a trade. Looked like he was DOA then but there is a pulse so who knows. I think he'll haul in a TD against the Cards this week. I'm starting him with TO and Driver.

 
I've got Randy Moss (he was my 3rd round pick in a 10-team redraft, performance league). I've been offered some okay trades.I want to hold on to him but am I stupid. Should I just cut my loses and run. Is there anybody else out there who is still holding on to Moss with hope????
His last three weeks he has all produced quality fantasy numbers. He's clearly involved in the game plan, evidenced by the fact that he was targetted 12 times against a quality Denver defense. Remember, he's played 3 games against San Diego, Baltimore, and Denver- three pretty ridiculously good defenses here- and scored a TD in his other two games against SF and Cleveland. He's not as bad as he's looked early on due to a tough schedule and a new QB. He should outproduce this pace for the rest of the season.
 
I have been trying to package him with a RB for someone like Holt or Smith, but no bites. He has been decent as my #2 the last few weeks, and I will probably start him still going forward, esp against weaker teams.

 
SSOG said:
I've got Randy Moss (he was my 3rd round pick in a 10-team redraft, performance league). I've been offered some okay trades.I want to hold on to him but am I stupid. Should I just cut my loses and run. Is there anybody else out there who is still holding on to Moss with hope????
His last three weeks he has all produced quality fantasy numbers. He's clearly involved in the game plan, evidenced by the fact that he was targetted 12 times against a quality Denver defense. Remember, he's played 3 games against San Diego, Baltimore, and Denver- three pretty ridiculously good defenses here- and scored a TD in his other two games against SF and Cleveland. He's not as bad as he's looked early on due to a tough schedule and a new QB. He should outproduce this pace for the rest of the season.
My thoughts exactly. Although I was disheartened by the aligator arms he showed on that deep pass in the end zone where he went up and turned his body when he felt Lynch about to hammer him. The old Randy Moss would have caught that ball.Edit to add: He still has to come to San Diego, and play against Champ again in Oak, so although the matchups overall should get better, life in the AFC West isn't what it used to be for WRs 3-4 years ago.
 
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I'm starting to get a little optimistic about him in the only league I have him in: a league that is all about distance TD's. When Brooks gets back and starts throwing bombs to him, I hope I'll be a happy camper. He's my third in a start 3 WR league. I'm holding him.

 
I'm sorry. Can't believe many of these posts about starting him as your 2-3. Must be 14/16 team leagues or dynastys. I drafted him in the 3rd and haven't been starting him. Guys I grabbed MUCH later have outproduced him consistantly. This week in my start 2 WR league I have 4 to choose from. Reggie Brown, Reggie Williams, Greg Jennings and Moss. All primo matchups and Moss is the 1st guy I remove from consideration.

As for the original question, my answer is yes, NO offers, nor takers in my ventures to move him. These are money leagues, not freebee yahooer's though. He will remain on my bench however as injury replacement or upon Brooks returning and showing Moss can hang with the recievers I mentioned above.

Very disgusted Moss owner.

 
I would say he's an okay WR3 in a 12-team league right now...

In my money league I am going to deal him and Reggie Brown for Tatum Bell and a throw-in WR (prolly Chad Jackson). We agreed to this before this weekend of games when Reggie blew up, but I still don't regret it as I literally have no playable RBs after Ronnie Brown and FWP. Also I've made another trade for Lee Evans, and am working on getting Cotchery for one of my bench guys, so I'll still be in fine shape there.

Probably a little too much information, but just giving an example of a deal involving Moss in a money league.

 
Have him in a dynasty league and I fully intend to hold on to him.

Right now you probably can't get much for him anyway, and I agree that having Brooks back will help his chances of hauling in a few bombs. If he has a couple of good games and I get an offer of a younger WR with pretty good potential I'd probably consider a deal. But I think Randy will be dealt out of Oakland in the offseason and if he lands in the right situation he could put up some huge numbers again.

 
His last three weeks he has all produced quality fantasy numbers.
:confused: uh he has had ONE good week so far this year (vs SF). wtf w 8 pts or less (assuming std scoring) being "quality fantasy numbers." He's worth trying to get cheap from a disgusted Moss owner if you have roster space, but probably can't get him for what he's worth due to "potential"......
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Now that the trade deadline has passed, his agent will get in his ear and tell him "Ummm, Randy? If you want some other team to trade for you in the offseason, it might be a good idea to start trying again.

But that's my theory just beacuse nobody in my league will give me squat for him. :bag:
I hope you're right brother. I took him at 3.02 in WCOFF and thought I got a steal. Being a Raiders fan sucks big time these days for sure. At least FF helps me keep my mind on something non-Raiders related. :banned:
 
His last three weeks he has all produced quality fantasy numbers.
:confused: uh he has had ONE good week so far this year (vs SF). wtf w 8 pts or less (assuming std scoring) being "quality fantasy numbers." He's worth trying to get cheap from a disgusted Moss owner if you have roster space, but probably can't get him for what he's worth due to "potential"......
Randy Moss over the last 3 weeks has 26.3 fantasy points. He ranks 19th in the entire NFL over that span. Nineteenth. Which means unless you are in a 6-team league, or an 8-team league that only starts 2 WRs, Moss has posted *very startable numbers* over the last three weeks.I'm not saying that Moss has singlehandedly won his owners games over the past three weeks, I'm simply saying that Moss has performed like a quality startable member of a winning fantasy roster. Anytime my THIRD wide receiver is producing top-20 point totals over any given stretch, I'm pretty darn satisfied with that.

Let's not all overreact here. Just because Randy Moss hasn't been Randy Moss doesn't mean he hasn't been a quality fantasy producer.

 
His last three weeks he has all produced quality fantasy numbers.
:confused: uh he has had ONE good week so far this year (vs SF). wtf w 8 pts or less (assuming std scoring) being "quality fantasy numbers." He's worth trying to get cheap from a disgusted Moss owner if you have roster space, but probably can't get him for what he's worth due to "potential"......
Randy Moss over the last 3 weeks has 26.3 fantasy points. He ranks 19th in the entire NFL over that span. Nineteenth. Which means unless you are in a 6-team league, or an 8-team league that only starts 2 WRs, Moss has posted *very startable numbers* over the last three weeks.I'm not saying that Moss has singlehandedly won his owners games over the past three weeks, I'm simply saying that Moss has performed like a quality startable member of a winning fantasy roster. Anytime my THIRD wide receiver is producing top-20 point totals over any given stretch, I'm pretty darn satisfied with that.

Let's not all overreact here. Just because Randy Moss hasn't been Randy Moss doesn't mean he hasn't been a quality fantasy producer.
:goodposting: And I totally agree with you. Everything always ends up being relative to expectations. He's been an average WR2 up to this point. If I'm betting I would expect his production to step up because we've seen his floor, and Randy Moss' floor ain't too bad despite all the chicken little talk.
 
It will be interesting to see what Moss' performance today does to his trade value. He's actually had 3 good games in a row.

 
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LOCAL and Moss owner- He had a nice stat day today and it should be noted that had he caught all of the balls tossed his way he would have been closer to 10-180-2. There is hope and I am of the minority that believes that there is hope with Brooks and Moss on the horizon......

 
LOCAL and Moss owner- He had a nice stat day today and it should be noted that had he caught all of the balls tossed his way he would have been closer to 10-180-2. There is hope and I am of the minority that believes that there is hope with Brooks and Moss on the horizon......
I realize that the Cardinals are, well, the Cardinals so we might want to discount some of week 7 stats, but if Walters has begun to build a chemistry with Moss, and the last few week indicate that might be the case, would a move back to Brooks possibly hurt Moss' production going forward?
 
:bag:

I traded him last week for Braylon Edwards and have absolutely no traders remorse. Moss certainly has the potential to give you 120 yards and 2 TDs on any given week, but no longer has any consistency. I can't afford 3 weeks in a row of 30 to 50 yards, while waiting for him to go off. I wouldn't say his days are done. He is still a tremendous physical talent, but this year anyway, he is lacking a talented QB and he is lacking personal motivation. I'd move him in a redraft league for anything reasonable, but hang on to him in a keeper league.
Yea, but Braylon Edwards?? That is consistency?
At this point in the season both are comparable and inconsistent, but going forward I think Edwards production curve is upward and maybe steeply upward. Moss has the potential to implode and possibly be deactivated this year ala TO and Philly last year.
This one has to hurt :bag:
 
LOCAL and Moss owner- He had a nice stat day today and it should be noted that had he caught all of the balls tossed his way he would have been closer to 10-180-2. There is hope and I am of the minority that believes that there is hope with Brooks and Moss on the horizon......
I realize that the Cardinals are, well, the Cardinals so we might want to discount some of week 7 stats, but if Walters has begun to build a chemistry with Moss, and the last few week indicate that might be the case, would a move back to Brooks possibly hurt Moss' production going forward?
Not at all. The Cardinals were just as aggressive as they were Monday night. This is the same Cardinal defense which brought previously all-world Rex Grossman back to his rightful home on planet Suckitude. They apply (boat)loads of pressure and Walter demonstrated a lot of poise today.If Walter continues to improve, there won't be a move back to Brooks. As it stands now, Walter is targeting Randy early and often. He doesn't mind throwing it to him when he's doubled (sometimes tripled) and Walter clearly has more trust in him than any other pass catcher on the field. Moss' uncharacteristic drops are the only thing keeping him from Holt-like numbers over the past few weeks. So yeah, downgrade Moss if/when Brooks returns.

 
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Over the last three games Moss has averaged 6/89/.66 TD. If he maintains this pace over the next ten games, he'll finish up with something like 90/1250/10 TD. Of course this in flux as he is trending upward. His targets have increased each of the past four weeks (6-8-12-14) and so have his receptions. He's also played with a lot more enthusiasm and fire the past couple of weeks. He's going over the middle. He's finishing his shorter routes. He's involved. And he still has the ability to make it look easy. WR3? Nahhh. The guy who we all thought was impersonating Randy Moss is in fact....Randy Moss. :banned:

 

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