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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (1 Viewer)

'mad sweeney said:
Yeah, I just didn't want to get too detailed, though that's a worthwhile distinction. Not sure why this is a spoiler topic though.
I just didn't want people to get the wrong idea that the Lannister's had done something selfless or noble. ;) I used spoiler tags just erring on the side of caution for those who may not want to learn too much of the history ahead of time and instead want to let it unfold. Of course if that's the case they probably should stay away from threads like this. :D
I agree somewhat with staying out, especially since HBO has non spoiler extra info on their site as well as the link I gave above, but am fully willing to keeop what I think are spoilers in tags. I'm not sure how much detailed history they're going to go into on the series due to time constraints. They have their hands full trying to just get the action in the "present" going. How much they flesh out the backstory is a low priority I think.
 
Are these the only books in the series thus far:

A GAME OF THRONES

A CLASH OF KINGS

A STORM OF SWORDS

A FEAST FOR CROWS

Box set of those 4 on Amazon for like $15. I'm about to purchase.

 
I think tonight's episode (Lord Snow) was the best so far. Aidan Gillen is/will be money as Baelish. My only minor grip was that Varys seemed a tad underplayed.

 
Syrio Forel is a very interesting character. I loved his scene at the end of the show. They've done a really good job in casting. I didn't like the casting of Cersei when they announced it, but she's got that character down cold. Jaime Lannister is money too.

I liked the scene about telling war stories tonight as well.

 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two).

I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me.

Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene.

My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise).

The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.

I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard?

My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.

 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.

Looking forward to the books arriving at my door.

 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two). I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me. Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene. My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise). The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard? My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
You and I have way different expectations I guess.
 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
Also Barristan Selmy aka Barristan the Bold. He was the other knight sharing "war stories" with the king and Jaime Lannister. He's known as a total badass who is past his prime...but not by much.
 
Good episode, but I have to imagine it being the most confusing for non-readers of the book. There were some serious info dumps in this one. Most of the reviews I've read where the reviewer got to see the first 6 episodes thought this one was the weakest of the six, so I think things will heat up now that the pieces are either in place or pretty close to it.

Loved Ned's "was is easier than daughters" line. You can tell he's out of his depth with Sansa (13 year old girlie-girl), but is much more in tune with Arya (Xena-wannabe).

Masie Williams is just killing it as Arya. That kid is going to be a star. Kudos also to Mark Addy (Robert) - who looks nothing like the Robert I pictured when reading the books - and NCW (Jaime) - who looks exactly the way I pictured Jaime.

 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
Also Baristan the Bold, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard* (the old knight in Kingsguard armor swapping war stories with the King)*- I think he's the Lord Commander.
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two). I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me. Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene. My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise). The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard? My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
You and I have way different expectations I guess.
How do you mean?
 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
Also Baristan the Bold, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard* (the old knight in Kingsguard armor swapping war stories with the King)*- I think he's the Lord Commander.
He is.Also Renly Baratheon - Master of Laws and King Robert's youngest brotherMissing from the Small Council (and I do not think they mentioned him but I think his name will come up next episode) was Stannis Baratheon - Master od Ships and the middle son of the 3 Barartheon BrosWas Grand Maester Pycelle mentioned. He is the head maester and serves King Robert as he served Ayres before him. Varys, Selmy and Jaime are also holdovers from previous King.Not 100% clear but Lord Commander of the Night's Watch Mormont is the father of the exiled Mormont Knight with Dany across the Narrow Sea
 
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Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
Also Baristan the Bold, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard* (the old knight in Kingsguard armor swapping war stories with the King)*- I think he's the Lord Commander.
Thanks guys. Just to clarify:Jeor was the really old guy talking to the Imp saying they need funds etc. Aemon was the other guy in the room at the time.Yoren is the guy who was drinking with the Imp and is heading to King's Landing with him, right?
 
Good episode, but I have to imagine it being the most confusing for non-readers of the book.
I felt it lacked good transition and was pretty disjointed. Maybe I am not giving them enough credit but I too thought it would be confusing for non readers.
 
Thanks guys. Just to clarify:Jeor was the really old guy talking to the Imp saying they need funds etc. Aemon was the other guy in the room at the time.Yoren is the guy who was drinking with the Imp and is heading to King's Landing with him, right?
Jeor is the bad ### one with a beard (but no raven?)Aemon is the older blind frailer oneYoren is the one going South to KL with Tyrion (he is much different in the book but this version promises to be entertaining)
 
Thanks guys. Just to clarify:Jeor was the really old guy talking to the Imp saying they need funds etc. Aemon was the other guy in the room at the time.Yoren is the guy who was drinking with the Imp and is heading to King's Landing with him, right?
Jeor is the bad ### one with a beard (but no raven?)Aemon is the older blind frailer oneYoren is the one going South to KL with Tyrion (he is much different in the book but this version promises to be entertaining)
Ok thanks. And he's the father of that seemingly random knight following the horsemen around. I'm going to have to watch this again tonight. Looking forward to my books arriving!
 
Good episode, but I have to imagine it being the most confusing for non-readers of the book.
I felt it lacked good transition and was pretty disjointed. Maybe I am not giving them enough credit but I too thought it would be confusing for non readers.
Yeah, i've never read the books and felt that this was the weakest of the 3 episodes thus far. With the first 2 i followed along pretty well but this one just had me lost through most of it. I DVR'd it so i'll watch again and see if i was just tired or not paying attention. But it also just seemed like nothing really happened of any significance. That could be totally wrong but thats what i walked away feeling. So, if i'm wrong, i blame that on the director :)
 
Good episode, but I have to imagine it being the most confusing for non-readers of the book.
I felt it lacked good transition and was pretty disjointed. Maybe I am not giving them enough credit but I too thought it would be confusing for non readers.
Yeah, i've never read the books and felt that this was the weakest of the 3 episodes thus far. With the first 2 i followed along pretty well but this one just had me lost through most of it. I DVR'd it so i'll watch again and see if i was just tired or not paying attention. But it also just seemed like nothing really happened of any significance. That could be totally wrong but thats what i walked away feeling. So, if i'm wrong, i blame that on the director :)
They used the episode mainly as an info dump. Filling in the Jaime/Aerys thing and the Night's Watch. They also set some heavy wheels in motion in other areas though it's not apparent yet. Things should pick up from here, especially in Kings Landing
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two).

I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me.

Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene.

My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise).

The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.

I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard?

My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
Huh? What does medieval England have anything to do with King's Landing?
 
They also intorduced Lancel Lannister, King Robert's squire/wine glass filler.

Lancel is Kevan Lannister's (who was mentioned in this episode) son. Kevan is Tywin's brother and uncle of Cersei/Jaime/Tyrion.

 
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Did I miss the explanation in one of the 3 episodes of why that knight guy is with Drago's horsemen? And his dad is the badass head of night's watch and the horsemen know who he is?

 
Did I miss the explanation in one of the 3 episodes of why that knight guy is with Drago's horsemen? And his dad is the badass head of night's watch and the horsemen know who he is?
I think he said in ep 2 that he was exiled for catching squatters on his land and selling them to slavers.
 
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Did I miss the explanation in one of the 3 episodes of why that knight guy is with Drago's horsemen? And his dad is the badass head of night's watch and the horsemen know who he is?
Viserys Targaryen asks him about it in episode 2. Ser Jorah Mormont was the Lord of Bear Island. He was a bannerman of Ned Stark. He sold some poachers to a slave ship. Slaver is outlawed in the Seven Kingdoms. He would have been beheaded or possibly forced to join the Night's Watch. Instead he fled across the Narrow Sea and is in exile. He is serving the Targaryens in hopes of returning with them.More to be revealed but this is it so far.
 
As someone with absolutely no familiarity with the books/story whatsoever, I can say that the first three episodes have done a pretty good job of keeping the viewer engaged and introducing characters and backstory. Not great, but pretty good. I feel like I have a decent handle on most of the characters and goings-on, but there are moments where I find myself wondering WTF just happened or was referred to. Sometimes, those moments are clarified later in the episode, but not always.

To that end, is there a good companion guide online somewhere that walks through the episodes and provides backstory, character names/photos, and clarification of events?

 
As someone with absolutely no familiarity with the books/story whatsoever, I can say that the first three episodes have done a pretty good job of keeping the viewer engaged and introducing characters and backstory. Not great, but pretty good. I feel like I have a decent handle on most of the characters and goings-on, but there are moments where I find myself wondering WTF just happened or was referred to. Sometimes, those moments are clarified later in the episode, but not always.

To that end, is there a good companion guide online somewhere that walks through the episodes and provides backstory, character names/photos, and clarification of events?
HBO's web pageIn the upper right corner is a "Guide To Houses" link that explains who most of the major players are.

 
As someone with absolutely no familiarity with the books/story whatsoever, I can say that the first three episodes have done a pretty good job of keeping the viewer engaged and introducing characters and backstory. Not great, but pretty good. I feel like I have a decent handle on most of the characters and goings-on, but there are moments where I find myself wondering WTF just happened or was referred to. Sometimes, those moments are clarified later in the episode, but not always.

To that end, is there a good companion guide online somewhere that walks through the episodes and provides backstory, character names/photos, and clarification of events?
I'm in the same boat as you, and have found this and this extremely helpful.
 
Good episode, but I have to imagine it being the most confusing for non-readers of the book.
I felt it lacked good transition and was pretty disjointed. Maybe I am not giving them enough credit but I too thought it would be confusing for non readers.
Yeah, i've never read the books and felt that this was the weakest of the 3 episodes thus far. With the first 2 i followed along pretty well but this one just had me lost through most of it. I DVR'd it so i'll watch again and see if i was just tired or not paying attention. But it also just seemed like nothing really happened of any significance. That could be totally wrong but thats what i walked away feeling. So, if i'm wrong, i blame that on the director :)
They used the episode mainly as an info dump. Filling in the Jaime/Aerys thing and the Night's Watch. They also set some heavy wheels in motion in other areas though it's not apparent yet. Things should pick up from here, especially in Kings Landing
That's the feeling i got...that i was just fed a lot of important info but that it wouldn't be useful til later. Just trying to sort out all that info now i guess
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two).

I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me.

Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene.

My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise).

The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.

I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard?

My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
Huh? What does medieval England have anything to do with King's Landing?
Westeros is as amalgam of England and the whole story is an historic fantasy about the Wars of the Roses. I always read it as a grand city, but an English castle type of city and the one in the show looked more like the Summer Islands and Pentos, which are across the Narrow Sea (English Channel).
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two).

I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me.

Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene.

My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise).

The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.

I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard?

My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
Huh? What does medieval England have anything to do with King's Landing?
Westeros is as amalgam of England and the whole story is an historic fantasy about the Wars of the Roses. I always read it as a grand city, but an English castle type of city and the one in the show looked more like the Summer Islands and Pentos, which are across the Narrow Sea (English Channel).
Loosely based on the War of the Roses does not mean that anything about the setting or geography would have anything to do with the reality. The amalgam is of the politics of that piece of history - that's it.

 
Can I get a rundown of the characters introduced tonight? It's tough to catch their names/roles on one viewing.
A few people we met tonight:Jeor Mormont - The Old Bear - Lord Commander of the Night's WatchMaester Aemon - Maester at Castle BlackYoren - recruiter for the Night's WatchPetyr Baelish - Littlefinger - Master of Coin in King's Landing. Fostered and raised with Catelyn and her siblings.Lord Varys - the "spider" - Master of Whisperers in King's Landing.Syrio Forel - Arya's new "dancing" instructor
Also Baristan the Bold, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard* (the old knight in Kingsguard armor swapping war stories with the King)*- I think he's the Lord Commander.
He is.Also Renly Baratheon - Master of Laws and King Robert's youngest brotherMissing from the Small Council (and I do not think they mentioned him but I think his name will come up next episode) was Stannis Baratheon - Master od Ships and the middle son of the 3 Barartheon BrosWas Grand Maester Pycelle mentioned. He is the head maester and serves King Robert as he served Ayres before him. Varys, Selmy and Jaime are also holdovers from previous King.Not 100% clear but Lord Commander of the Night's Watch Mormont is the father of the exiled Mormont Knight with Dany across the Narrow Sea
Pycelle was there in the Small Council. He was the one that gave Ned the clasp of the Hand and later gave Ned the note from the raven.
 
'Matthias said:
still digging the series a lot. only one thought for improvement: name tags.
It'd be easier to understand if they all didn't have accents. It's not medieval England, so why talk similarly?
Medieval English accents follows stories with lords and ladies like night follows day. Not saying that it's right, just that it does.
Oh I know. And it would feel awkward if they spoke with American accents, but it also would be a lot easier to understand WTF they are saying, especially with some of these interesting names.
 
Big jump in quality here from the first two. Some pretty great scenes that seem like additions to the book but really help flush out the world and the histories. Keep this director close fellas, he's a lot better than Van Patten (who did the first two).

I might warm up to him, but I really didn't like Sylvio. Looked like a mix between Kenny Powers and El Guapo and he doesn't move at all like he's ever practiced with a sword. But like I said, he might grow on me.

Lord Mormont is a badass. Love that actor. Anytime I picture a movie with a guy swinging a giant axe or hammer, he's the one I want doing the swinging. Tyrion continues to impress. Hell, I even like Sean Bean this episode, though he seems to shake when he delivers his lines even when it's not a stressful scene.

My only real complaint is the lighting. Some pretty sloppy work IMO, especially the Small Council scene and the Cersei/Joff scene (which was great content wise).

The one funny thing that doesn't so much bug me but I notice it anyways is how all the Starks have a different accent. Cat, sure she'd be different, she grew up in Riverrun. But Ned and all the kids grew up together in the same place and none of the actors have accents similar to each other. Just a little funny.

I also didn't like King's Landing. Looked more Mediterranean than Medieival England. Palm trees in the courtyard?

My waning faith in the series was restored tonight, I'm very glad. Looking forward to next week.
Huh? What does medieval England have anything to do with King's Landing?
Westeros is as amalgam of England and the whole story is an historic fantasy about the Wars of the Roses. I always read it as a grand city, but an English castle type of city and the one in the show looked more like the Summer Islands and Pentos, which are across the Narrow Sea (English Channel).
Loosely based on the War of the Roses does not mean that anything about the setting or geography would have anything to do with the reality. The amalgam is of the politics of that piece of history - that's it.
No, but the descriptions of King's Landing in the books seems different than hat they showed in the show. Just a minor aesthetic thing that I don't care for, that's it.
 
As someone with absolutely no familiarity with the books/story whatsoever, I can say that the first three episodes have done a pretty good job of keeping the viewer engaged and introducing characters and backstory. Not great, but pretty good. I feel like I have a decent handle on most of the characters and goings-on, but there are moments where I find myself wondering WTF just happened or was referred to. Sometimes, those moments are clarified later in the episode, but not always.

To that end, is there a good companion guide online somewhere that walks through the episodes and provides backstory, character names/photos, and clarification of events?
HBO's web pageIn the upper right corner is a "Guide To Houses" link that explains who most of the major players are.
As someone with absolutely no familiarity with the books/story whatsoever, I can say that the first three episodes have done a pretty good job of keeping the viewer engaged and introducing characters and backstory. Not great, but pretty good. I feel like I have a decent handle on most of the characters and goings-on, but there are moments where I find myself wondering WTF just happened or was referred to. Sometimes, those moments are clarified later in the episode, but not always.

To that end, is there a good companion guide online somewhere that walks through the episodes and provides backstory, character names/photos, and clarification of events?
I'm in the same boat as you, and have found this and this extremely helpful.
Thanks, guys.

 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
Actually, it would be a planet with an erratic wobble. Years are fairly regular - Bran is described as being 7 years old in a Summer that was 9 years long. It is the seasons, which are caused by the orientation of a planet's axis that are irregular.
 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
Actually, it would be a planet with an erratic wobble. Years are fairly regular - Bran is described as being 7 years old in a Summer that was 9 years long. It is the seasons, which are caused by the orientation of a planet's axis that are irregular.
In a fantasy world where fire and ice and summer and winter are mined so metaphorically, I don't think it's a safe assumption to assume that the seasons are a naturalistic phenomenon understood the way we understand science. I'd wager that if it's explained at all, it would be explained in the context of the conflict between the "two true Gods."
 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
Actually, it would be a planet with an erratic wobble. Years are fairly regular - Bran is described as being 7 years old in a Summer that was 9 years long. It is the seasons, which are caused by the orientation of a planet's axis that are irregular.
In a fantasy world where fire and ice and summer and winter are mined so metaphorically, I don't think it's a safe assumption to assume that the seasons are a naturalistic phenomenon understood the way we understand science. I'd wager that if it's explained at all, it would be explained in the context of the conflict between the "two true Gods."
The series gets into Greek type Gods???
 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
Actually, it would be a planet with an erratic wobble. Years are fairly regular - Bran is described as being 7 years old in a Summer that was 9 years long. It is the seasons, which are caused by the orientation of a planet's axis that are irregular.
In a fantasy world where fire and ice and summer and winter are mined so metaphorically, I don't think it's a safe assumption to assume that the seasons are a naturalistic phenomenon understood the way we understand science. I'd wager that if it's explained at all, it would be explained in the context of the conflict between the "two true Gods."
Martin has dabbled enough in scifi that I would think he's got a quasi-scientific explanation. It might not hold up to Asimov type scrutiny but could be something more along the lines of Dragonriders of Pern.
 
Im trying to not read this thread because I will eventually read the series BUT I missed something in the show and deleted it by accident

It was the scene where Stark was talking with the Queens brother. Did he say that he was there when Starks parents died in the castle. Did I miss that backstory in one of the other episodes.

And I think the Queen of the huns is absolutely stunning

 
Im trying to not read this thread because I will eventually read the series BUT I missed something in the show and deleted it by accidentIt was the scene where Stark was talking with the Queens brother. Did he say that he was there when Starks parents died in the castle. Did I miss that backstory in one of the other episodes.And I think the Queen of the huns is absolutely stunning
Jaime Lannister was and is a member of the Kingsguard, an elite group of 7 knights who guard the royal family.He was present when the former King Aerys Targaryen (the father of the two Targaryen siblings now with the Dothraki)executed Neds Father (Rickard) and older brother (Brandon). It is actually a little more complicated than a straight execution but let's just call it an execution. I believe a flashback/dream sequence of this event was filmed. Later during the war that put Robert on the throne Jaime assassinated Aerys.
 
Im trying to not read this thread because I will eventually read the series BUT I missed something in the show and deleted it by accidentIt was the scene where Stark was talking with the Queens brother. Did he say that he was there when Starks parents died in the castle. Did I miss that backstory in one of the other episodes.And I think the Queen of the huns is absolutely stunning
Jaime Lannister was and is a member of the Kingsguard, an elite group of 7 knights who guard the royal family.He was present when the former King Aerys Targaryen (the father of the two Targaryen siblings now with the Dothraki)executed Neds Father (Rickard) and older brother (Brandon). It is actually a little more complicated than a straight execution but let's just call it an execution. I believe a flashback/dream sequence of this event was filmed. Later during the war that put Robert on the throne Jaime assassinated Aerys.
Thanks. I just ordered the first 4 books from amazon
 
'Matthias said:
'Dan Lambskin said:
so what's up with the random winters? like it's just winter once every few years?
Yah. Summers and winters last years, not months, and the number of years they last vary.
I don't remember it actually being explained, but I just always assumed they were on a planet with an erratic orbit.
Actually, it would be a planet with an erratic wobble. Years are fairly regular - Bran is described as being 7 years old in a Summer that was 9 years long. It is the seasons, which are caused by the orientation of a planet's axis that are irregular.
In a fantasy world where fire and ice and summer and winter are mined so metaphorically, I don't think it's a safe assumption to assume that the seasons are a naturalistic phenomenon understood the way we understand science. I'd wager that if it's explained at all, it would be explained in the context of the conflict between the "two true Gods."
The series gets into Greek type Gods???
Not exactly like a Greek Pantheon but there are lots of competeing religions.In Westeros, the common religions are the old gods and the new gods. The Starks and the North in general worship the old gods. The godswood in Winterfell is where the white tree with red leaves is. It is a sacred grove/forest that all acastles used to have. Most of the weirwood trees (white with red leaves) have been cut down in the South. They are the gods of nature.In the South and East and West they worship the Seven or the new gods. When Caitlyn (Tully) Stark is making that creepy thing for Bran when he is in a coma, it is a 7 pointed star with each of the Seven gods on it-The FatherThe Mother The WarriorThe MaidThe StrangerThe CroneThe SmithThe Greyjoys people from the Iron Islands, Theon is the only one we are likely to meet in season one worship The Drowned God.In Essos across the Narrow Sea they, including the Dothraki(The Great Stallion), worship other gods.The "two true gods" are R'hllor and The Great Other.Get the idea that we have not even scratched the surface of the tip of the ice berg yet?
 
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Im trying to not read this thread because I will eventually read the series BUT I missed something in the show and deleted it by accidentIt was the scene where Stark was talking with the Queens brother. Did he say that he was there when Starks parents died in the castle. Did I miss that backstory in one of the other episodes.And I think the Queen of the huns is absolutely stunning
Jaime Lannister was and is a member of the Kingsguard, an elite group of 7 knights who guard the royal family.He was present when the former King Aerys Targaryen (the father of the two Targaryen siblings now with the Dothraki)executed Neds Father (Rickard) and older brother (Brandon). It is actually a little more complicated than a straight execution but let's just call it an execution. I believe a flashback/dream sequence of this event was filmed. Later during the war that put Robert on the throne Jaime assassinated Aerys.
Thanks. I just ordered the first 4 books from amazon
Mine are on their way as well.
 

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