HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

With every Sansa chapter I read, my disdain grows for her like the stallion who will mount the world grows In Dany's womb.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

With every Sansa chapter I read, my disdain grows for her like the stallion who will mount the world grows In Dany's womb.

From watching the show only, I want to beat her with Joffrey. Just pick that little jag-off up by the ankles and beat Sansa over the head with him.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

With every Sansa chapter I read, my disdain grows for her like the stallion who will mount the world grows In Dany's womb.

From watching the show only, I want to beat her with Joffrey. Just pick that little jag-off up by the ankles and beat Sansa over the head with him.

She's worse in the book IMO and I still hear her annoying bratty snobbish voice in my head.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Gods, I like this show.

 

[AcerFC]

With every Sansa chapter I read, my disdain grows for her like the stallion who will mount the world grows In Dany's womb.

From watching the show only, I want to beat her with Joffrey. Just pick that little jag-off up by the ankles and beat Sansa over the head with him.

She's worse in the book IMO and I still hear her annoying bratty snobbish voice in my head.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

 

[Redwes25]

Really enjoyed this show but after that last episode I can wait for the next one. If I were reading the book at this point I would have stayed up all night to finish it. A really great story and I will read these books as soon as I finish my current book.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

 

[hotdogcollars]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

i haven't read the books, but that had to be a misdirection. In that scene, they were just talking about 2 different options for how to attack. I assume they now go with the other option than they one the scout knows. either that or its yet another nail in the Stark coffin

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

Misdirection

Spoiler

Robb splits his forces, sending one on to meet Tywin while taking the rest west to ambush Jaime.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

Ned is too honorable for his own good, but I respect that. He is trying to do what is right.I think it's a misdirection and a means of giving Tywin overconfidence perhaps.

 

[Mjolnirs]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening.

A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:

Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

 

[rolyaTy]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

Spoiler

It's also probably the authors attempt to make the dwarf more connected to the dad than the older brother. It's a theme that grows throughout the book how the imp is really "Tywin's son" as in he has the same shrewdness and intelligence and leadership traits, rather than Jaimie or his sister. That's as far as I can guess though, and to be honest, it's not based on anything but my guess.

 

[TeamDingo]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

Tywin is both Hand of the King and Warden of the West and Lord of Casterly Rock. Just like Ned was Hand and Warden of the North and Lord of Winterfell.Technically the Warden title is not hereditary though in practice it pretty much is.

 

[TeamDingo]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

Spoiler

Robb is the greatest military mind in hundreds of years.

He is playing on Tywin's misconception that he is a green glory hungry boy ruled by his emotions

 

[TeamDingo]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Spoiler

Tywin did not like Tytos...

 

[Chadstroma]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Any help here book nerds?

 

[The Gator]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

“Tell Lord Tywin winter is coming for him. 20,000 northerners marching south to find out if he really does #### gold.”

#### yeah

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

Tywin is both Hand of the King and Warden of the West and Lord of Casterly Rock. Just like Ned was Hand and Warden of the North and Lord of Winterfell.Technically the Warden title is not hereditary though in practice it pretty much is.

Right, but while Ned was in King's Landing as the Hand, Robb ran Winterfell. If Tywin, Jaime, and Cersei are all at Kingslanding, that just leaves Tyrion, no? And he is about to gain some respect IMO leading the hill people in battle.Did I mention how much I love this series? I'm looking forward to reading the next 4 books once the HBO season is over!

 

[TeamDingo]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Any help here book nerds?Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening.

A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:

Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

Tywin is both Hand of the King and Warden of the West and Lord of Casterly Rock. Just like Ned was Hand and Warden of the North and Lord of Winterfell.Technically the Warden title is not hereditary though in practice it pretty much is.

Right, but while Ned was in King's Landing as the Hand, Robb ran Winterfell. If Tywin, Jaime, and Cersei are all at Kingslanding, that just leaves Tyrion, no? And he is about to gain some respect IMO leading the hill people in battle.Did I mention how much I love this series? I'm looking forward to reading the next 4 books once the HBO season is over!

I've thought about doing this, but I don't really want to spoil the series for myself. I'm thinking whenever HBO stops airing new episodes, either through cancellation or the natural end of the series, I'll then read them all.

 

[parrot]

Having read the books and knowing what happens, I'm enjoying reading this thread and the thoughts on what might be happening. A question I have regarding the Lannisters is this:Why isn't Jaime named Tyrion? The family line is Tytos then Tywin then Jaimie and Tyrion. It seems the "Ty" theme would dictate the firstborn son and presumed heir would be named something "Ty."

Good question. Maybe it had something to do with being a twin and such a slight also has driven Jaime to be the man he has become. Also I think that Tyrion end up being Lord Lannister down the road, and may technically be so right now being that Cersei is Queen, Jaime the head of the king's guard, and Tywin now Hand of the King. So is Tyrion now Warden of the West?

Tywin is both Hand of the King and Warden of the West and Lord of Casterly Rock. Just like Ned was Hand and Warden of the North and Lord of Winterfell.Technically the Warden title is not hereditary though in practice it pretty much is.

Right, but while Ned was in King's Landing as the Hand, Robb ran Winterfell. If Tywin, Jaime, and Cersei are all at Kingslanding, that just leaves Tyrion, no? And he is about to gain some respect IMO leading the hill people in battle.Did I mention how much I love this series? I'm looking forward to reading the next 4 books once the HBO season is over!

There were no other Starks at Winterfell other than Ned's immediate family. There are LOTS of Lannisters that could potentially run the rock in Tywin's absence.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

How do you feel about Jaime Lannister?

 

[Sabertooth]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

How do you feel about Jaime Lannister?

I pretty much despise him, although the scene with his father made him more sympathetic to an extent. He is humorous and entertaining though.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

Ratings were up this week and hit a new high for the series. Hard to say, though, if it'll go to completion. 7-8-9 years is a long time for a TV show to tell one story.

 

[AcerFC]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

How do you feel about Jaime Lannister?

I pretty much despise him, although the scene with his father made him more sympathetic to an extent. He is humorous and entertaining though.

That part was not in the book (at least not that I remember)He did get to bang the queen and she is pretty hot IMO

 

[Chadstroma]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Spoiler

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

Yes. She was Catelyn Tully before marrying Ned (and she was originally betrothed to his older brother.) It's tough to keep track of the huge families, but they often stress the ways in which families are tied to other families. They did make a point to mention Catelyn was a Tully with the dialogue where Tywin was filling in Tyrion on all that had happened while he was in captivity. The books included House lists with all the varied bannermen and their relationships.eta: I suppose the idea of a siege would be to put them to the test of war, and if they were facing utter destruction or flipping, they'd have to flip to save their skins.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

the fact that I despise Joffrey SO vehemently makes me realize that the kid actor is doing a bang up job.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

Ratings were up this week and hit a new high for the series. Hard to say, though, if it'll go to completion. 7-8-9 years is a long time for a TV show to tell one story.

There's going to be 9 books??

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

How do you feel about Jaime Lannister?

Not a fan. Banging his sister + pushing a little kid from a window = jerk-off. Although, of the characters I dislike, he is probably my favorite.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

Ratings were up this week and hit a new high for the series. Hard to say, though, if it'll go to completion. 7-8-9 years is a long time for a TV show to tell one story.

There's going to be 9 books??

No, supposed to be 7 but there's been some talk that one or more of the books will have to be spread over more than one season.

 

[Charlie Frown]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

My biggest worry is cost. How much is it costing HBO to produce? Are they going to be able to continue it? Wasn't expense the reason Rome wasn't stretched any longer than it was?

 

[Moe.]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

My biggest worry is cost. How much is it costing HBO to produce? Are they going to be able to continue it? Wasn't expense the reason Rome wasn't stretched any longer than it was?

Yes, and I'm afraid this show will run into the same problem. I have no idea what kind of viewership Rome got and how that compares to Game of Thrones though. I'm not even sure if ratings are as relevant when talking about an HBO show, I'm sure they are much more concerned with the number of subscriptions, obviously those two are related though. I'm hoping we get at least three seasons.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

My biggest worry is cost. How much is it costing HBO to produce? Are they going to be able to continue it? Wasn't expense the reason Rome wasn't stretched any longer than it was?

Yes, and I'm afraid this show will run into the same problem. I have no idea what kind of viewership Rome got and how that compares to Game of Thrones though. I'm not even sure if ratings are as relevant when talking about an HBO show, I'm sure they are much more concerned with the number of subscriptions, obviously those two are related though. I'm hoping we get at least three seasons.

Was Rome any good? I never watched it. There's a big fanbase for these already based on the book sales, and I am one of I assume many newcomers to keep HBO going. If they cancel this early a la Deadwood (and to a lesser extent the Wire) I may cut the cord.

 

[Moe.]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

My biggest worry is cost. How much is it costing HBO to produce? Are they going to be able to continue it? Wasn't expense the reason Rome wasn't stretched any longer than it was?

Yes, and I'm afraid this show will run into the same problem. I have no idea what kind of viewership Rome got and how that compares to Game of Thrones though. I'm not even sure if ratings are as relevant when talking about an HBO show, I'm sure they are much more concerned with the number of subscriptions, obviously those two are related though. I'm hoping we get at least three seasons.

Was Rome any good? I never watched it. There's a big fanbase for these already based on the book sales, and I am one of I assume many newcomers to keep HBO going. If they cancel this early a la Deadwood (and to a lesser extent the Wire) I may cut the cord.

Yeah, it's definitely worth netflixing or whatever.

 

[Carver]

with a whisper of disdain in her voice as if I'm some f***ing nerd for being so into the show.

Maybe not for this.

THE HOOKS ARE IN !! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

But most definitely for saying this.

 

[Spanky267]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Spoiler

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

Yup, Lady Stark is a Tully.

House Tully and their bannermen would join with House Stark once they are free of fighting the Lannisters on their own. I think the banner captain was implying that at the moment House Tully can't spare any troops because they are engaged against the Lannisters by themselves. I would guess that the Tully's dont field an army as large as the Lannisters.

It seems as though the Lannisters have the largest army in the seven kingdoms. Tywin mentions that he is going to give Jaime command of half of their house's troops, 30K men. Did I hear that right? If so the Lannisters have 60K troops. Robb Stark has 18K he's going to have to help the Tully's if they have any chance against the Lannisters.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Spoiler

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

Spoiler

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

Yup, Lady Stark is a Tully.

House Tully and their bannermen would join with House Stark once they are free of fighting the Lannisters on their own. I think the banner captain was implying that at the moment House Tully can't spare any troops because they are engaged against the Lannisters by themselves. I would guess that the Tully's dont field an army as large as the Lannisters.

It seems as though the Lannisters have the largest army in the seven kingdoms. Tywin mentions that he is going to give Jaime command of half of their house's troops, 30K men. Did I hear that right? If so the Lannisters have 60K troops. Robb Stark has 18K he's going to have to help the Tully's if they have any chance against the Lannisters.

Why are the Tullys and the Lannisters fighting? I missed that part.

 

[Spanky267]

Does anyone else think that everything depends on Tyrion? I think Tyrion is the most likeable of all the Lannisters and the one most likely to actually ally with the Starks. Am I wrong?

I hate Jaime Lannister with a passion. He is one smug SOB.

 

[Spanky267]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Spoiler

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

Spoiler

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

Spoiler

Yup, Lady Stark is a Tully.

House Tully and their bannermen would join with House Stark once they are free of fighting the Lannisters on their own. I think the banner captain was implying that at the moment House Tully can't spare any troops because they are engaged against the Lannisters by themselves. I would guess that the Tully's dont field an army as large as the Lannisters.

It seems as though the Lannisters have the largest army in the seven kingdoms. Tywin mentions that he is going to give Jaime command of half of their house's troops, 30K men. Did I hear that right? If so the Lannisters have 60K troops. Robb Stark has 18K he's going to have to help the Tully's if they have any chance against the Lannisters.

Why are the Tullys and the Lannisters fighting? I missed that part.Lady Stark is a Tully. She captured Tyrion Lannister, the dwarf. Tywin wants payback from her for dishonoring his house by holding Tyrion. So he is sending Jaime to get that payback from her fathers house, House Tully.

It was in the dialog between Tywin and Jaime at the beginning of the last episode.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Here is something that I am not sure I got... or I missed...

Spoiler

Why is Jamie laying siege to the river lords? I thought he was suppose to be going to the veil. Is it because it is on the way and the river lords are allies? (I think that is where Lady Stark is from, right?) But the banner captain said if they broke the siege then they would join them.... or is this just an overall power play by the Lanisters? or did I miss something completely?

Spoiler

Any help here book nerds?

Spoiler

Because the Lannisters are at war with the House Tully(the Lords of Riverlands) asn they can not march past them without leaving their rear open.

...N

WXE

...S

Spoiler

House Tully is Lady Starks family? But again, what confuses me is the banner captains comment of helping them THEN they will be allies.

Spoiler

Yup, Lady Stark is a Tully.

House Tully and their bannermen would join with House Stark once they are free of fighting the Lannisters on their own. I think the banner captain was implying that at the moment House Tully can't spare any troops because they are engaged against the Lannisters by themselves. I would guess that the Tully's dont field an army as large as the Lannisters.

It seems as though the Lannisters have the largest army in the seven kingdoms. Tywin mentions that he is going to give Jaime command of half of their house's troops, 30K men. Did I hear that right? If so the Lannisters have 60K troops. Robb Stark has 18K he's going to have to help the Tully's if they have any chance against the Lannisters.

Spoiler

Why are the Tullys and the Lannisters fighting? I missed that part.

Lady Stark is a Tully. She captured Tyrion Lannister, the dwarf. Tywin wants payback from her for dishonoring his house by holding Tyrion. So he is sending Jaime to get that payback from her fathers house, House Tully.

It was in the dialog between Tywin and Jaime at the beginning of the last episode.

I need to go back and watch. Thanks!

 

[Christo]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

i haven't read the books, but that had to be a misdirection. In that scene, they were just talking about 2 different options for how to attack. I assume they now go with the other option than they one the scout knows. either that or its yet another nail in the Stark coffin

Also, in an earlier scene someone stated they had 18k soldiers. When he asked the spy about his count the spy said he was up to 20k.

 

[Spanky267]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

i haven't read the books, but that had to be a misdirection. In that scene, they were just talking about 2 different options for how to attack. I assume they now go with the other option than they one the scout knows. either that or its yet another nail in the Stark coffin

Also, in an earlier scene someone stated they had 18k soldiers. When he asked the spy about his count the spy said he was up to 20k.

The spy was "up" to 20K. Which means he thinks there are more troops in the Stark's army. That helps Robb tremendously. So he let the spy go. This might also force Tywin to be more caustious as his numerical advantage is less than he might think it is.Really enjoying the show.

 

[hotdogcollars]

I think part of why I dig the show so much is that there's not a lot of gray area with the characters for me. 90% of them, I either really like or really dislike. I'm not ambivalent toward many.

That's how I am as well for the most part. I'm not quite sure what to make of Varys, Greyjoy, and Mormont still, they could go either way. After this past episode Robb jumped way up in the rankings for me.

But why let the spy go? So stupid unless its a misdirection. The Starks are a bunch of morons. They need to do more stabbing and less yapping.

i haven't read the books, but that had to be a misdirection. In that scene, they were just talking about 2 different options for how to attack. I assume they now go with the other option than they one the scout knows. either that or its yet another nail in the Stark coffin

Also, in an earlier scene someone stated they had 18k soldiers. When he asked the spy about his count the spy said he was up to 20k.

The spy was "up" to 20K. Which means he thinks there are more troops in the Stark's army. That helps Robb tremendously. So he let the spy go. This might also force Tywin to be more caustious as his numerical advantage is less than he might think it is.Really enjoying the show.

Speculating here of course, but i think Tywin sees through the misdirection. No one could be so dumb as to let a scout go AND tell him the battle plans. Tywin has to figure that out

 

[Harry Manback]

the fact that I despise Joffrey SO vehemently makes me realize that the kid actor is doing a bang up job.

Everytime I think of how much I despise him, I have to begrudgingly admit that he's doing a damn fine job of acting.

 

[Trey]

So how is the viewership of this series? Does it seem likely to get picked up and carried through to completion? The storyline continues to be awesome in subsequent books, but in reality it is going to be the number of viewers that dictates the series.

My biggest worry is cost. How much is it costing HBO to produce? Are they going to be able to continue it? Wasn't expense the reason Rome wasn't stretched any longer than it was?

Already picked up for the 2nd season and the numbers have been growing since the premiere. This past episode was up roughly 20% from the premiere numbers and on Sunday night alone it brings in around 3.5 million viewers between its 2 showings. When you factor in the On Demand & HBOGo viewing, I've heard some large viewing totals being tossed around for this series. Also it is supposedly performing incredibly well overseas. Add in what I presume will be fantastic DVD numbers, and I can't imagine this show is going anywhere in the near future. I don't know if it will make it the full 7 but it will get at worst 3.