HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (6 Viewers)

[Maik Jeaunz]

Didn't Little Finger see Arya? seems like he recognized her but decided not to say anything? not clear imo.

I thought the same thing. He was shown looking suspiciously at her too many times it seems to me to just not figure it out. Not sure what the angle would be for not pointing it out though.

my wife and I were wondering about this. he already knows that Arya made it out of King's Landing, right? or does he think she's still there? I would think he would be less likely to notice Arya if he thought she was still somewhere within the capital.

 

[Drifter]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

It was liking seeing a totally different story.

A tad dramatic.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

I actually think that by editing or significantly abbreviating certain story arcs, the show could improve on the books. I love the books, but GRRM could use an editor with a firmer hand, imo.

 

[Mile High]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

Neither does Arya. He knows and she knows he knows.

 

[Clifford]

No doubt, but the ending was like seeing a totally different story. It not only was completely new, it killed off several characters which means they can't reconnect to the story arc down the line.

After finishing ADWD I struggled to see how they could make a tv series out of the books. I am beginning to see how.

 

[Christo]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

Neither does Arya. He knows and she knows he knows.

She still has 1 death left.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

Neither does Arya. He knows and she knows he knows.

She still has 1 death left.

she's saving that for Hot Pie.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

Neither does Arya. He knows and she knows he knows.

She still has 1 death left.

she's saving that for Hot Pie.

What does she have against Roz?

 

[jdoggydogg]

Holy ####.

George RR Martin's web site is foul. Looks like it was designed in 1989...by George RR Martin.

 

[EYLive]

Littlefinger doesn't miss much

Neither does Arya. He knows and she knows he knows.

She still has 1 death left.

she's saving that for Hot Pie.

What does she have against Roz?

 

[Mjolnirs]

I love the books, but GRRM could use an editor with a firmer hand, imo.

Indeed, as well as some web skills.

Holy ####.

George RR Martin's web site is foul. Looks like it was designed in 1989...by George RR Martin.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Didn't Little Finger see Arya? seems like he recognized her but decided not to say anything? not clear imo.

I thought the same thing. He was shown looking suspiciously at her too many times it seems to me to just not figure it out. Not sure what the angle would be for not pointing it out though.

To use her.

There's also the fact that he's in love with her mother. I'm thinking if someone mentions in passing that Arya had escaped and Littlefinger helped the Lannister's re-apprehend her it wouldn't exactly help his already not so hot chances with her.

 

[Rick James]

Holy ####.

George RR Martin's web site is foul. Looks like it was designed in 1989...by George RR Martin.

hahaha, he's part of a web ring. Remember web rings?

 

[Gr00vus]

No doubt, but the ending was like seeing a totally different story. It not only was completely new, it killed off several characters which means they can't reconnect to the story arc down the line.After finishing ADWD I struggled to see how they could make a tv series out of the books. I am beginning to see how.

I think the twist with the dragons being stolen was actually an improvement over the book.

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It never made sense to me that no-one tried a brute force approach to getting the dragons in the book while she was in a weak position (as she is at the outset in Qarth). This twist seems more realistic.I don't think they've killed anyone that's key to the main story development yet.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Wtf was that? Total departure from the books this week

You are going to have to get over this. They can't stick to the books verbatim - nor should they. Fantastic episode this week.

Agree, last nights episode was definitely the furthest departure so far IMO. In the name of stream lining it's going to happen, just have to enjoy the ride.

I agree to a point. I guess we have to see where they are taking things in Quarth.The Winterfell scenes and Kings Landing scenes were amongst the best produced to date. Some things with Jon's didn't sit right with me and Arya killing Lorch seemed forced as did the tension with Littlefinger. I am all for change for the adaptation, but sometimes things seem to be changed for the sake of change (like replacing Jeyne Westerling with Telisia?)

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

2.

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I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

2.

Spoiler

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

Spoiler

1. Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.2.I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Yea, if they change #2 there, that is a major problem I think, butJon

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is separated from Halfhand, but intentionally, in the book and then they meet back up later, right? So maybe they are just establishing the relationship with Ygritte and letting us learn more about Wildling culture first? We have to believe how difficult is it is for Jon to follow Halfhand's orders though, so I am a little concerned.

 

[Gr00vus]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

I think you probably should consider your 1st point a spoiler too.Good point.I agree with your 1st point by they way.

Spoiler

They're putting way too much kindly old man in the Tywin character in the show for my taste. As for the Jon Ygrette thing - let's see how they resolve this before judging. I think they're probably taking a slightly different/more streamlined path to hit the same key plot points.

 

[johnadams]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

I think you probably should consider your 1st point a spoiler too.Good point.I agree with your 1st point by they way.

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They're putting way too much kindly old man in the Tywin character in the show for my taste. As for the Jon Ygrette thing - let's see how they resolve this before judging. I think they're probably taking a slightly different/more streamlined path to hit the same key plot points.

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Disagree on Tywin and totally agree on the Jon/Ygrette piece. I like the Tywin interaction with Arya and find it works very well for the pacing as well as tension. Plus, it gives us the most human interactions of the season so far. Jon/Ygrette has a pretty wide sweeping arc and there are a ton of directions it can go. I didn't

 

[Gr00vus]

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Disagree on Tywin and totally agree on the Jon/Ygrette piece. I like the Tywin interaction with Arya and find it works very well for the pacing as well as tension. Plus, it gives us the most human interactions of the season so far. Jon/Ygrette has a pretty wide sweeping arc and there are a ton of directions it can go. I didn't

I agree the treatment of Tywin/Arya is making great T.V. but...

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The Tywin of the book, while having a soft spot for his golden boy and his wife, is basically a ruthless, heartless power tripper. These scenes with Arya are displaying a kindly grandpa side of him that jars with how I perceived him from the text. He came off as nearly inhuman in the books.

Not a biggie, they're excellent scenes and the actors are both doing fantastic jobs - the other actors in scenes with the two of them seem outclassed almost.

 

[chet]

GRRM wrote S2E7 so we will see how he responds to the plot deviations.

 

[CBusAlex]

I'm not really getting a "kindly grandpa" vibe from the Tywin/Araya scenes. To me, it comes off more like a couple poker players trying to get a read on each other.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm not really getting a "kindly grandpa" vibe from the Tywin/Araya scenes. To me, it comes off more like a couple poker players trying to get a read on each other.

The Tywin of the book wouldn't have wasted words/time on a cupbearer he picked out of lock up other than to give orders. He certainly wouldn't have confided any personal stories to her, probably would have given her the business for spilling wine on a guest, etc.

 

[chet]

I'm not really getting a "kindly grandpa" vibe from the Tywin/Araya scenes. To me, it comes off more like a couple poker players trying to get a read on each other.

Who taught you to read?What does your father do?How did he die?Seems grandfatherly to me--at least for a grandfather that doesn't know anything about her.

 

[shuke]

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Disagree on Tywin and totally agree on the Jon/Ygrette piece. I like the Tywin interaction with Arya and find it works very well for the pacing as well as tension. Plus, it gives us the most human interactions of the season so far. Jon/Ygrette has a pretty wide sweeping arc and there are a ton of directions it can go. I didn't

I agree the treatment of Tywin/Arya is making great T.V. but...

Spoiler

The Tywin of the book, while having a soft spot for his golden boy and his wife, is basically a ruthless, heartless power tripper. These scenes with Arya are displaying a kindly grandpa side of him that jars with how I perceived him from the text. He came off as nearly inhuman in the books.

Not a biggie, they're excellent scenes and the actors are both doing fantastic jobs - the other actors in scenes with the two of them seem outclassed almost.

That's the beauty of the POV format of the books.

 

[The Ref]

The one thing I cant get past about this show so far is Tywin and how he is not in more controll. Sure Joffery is King, but Tywin is the head of the family and he has all the money as well as a army. It just seems to me that at some point he would send a raven to Kings Landing above and beyond sending The imp as first hand in order to tell Joffery to stop being a doush.

 

[sn0mm1s]

Regarding Arya and Tywin, Jon and Ygritte

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I don't mind the Tywin/Arya scenes. I think Tywin is being portrayed more kindly than he was in the books - but I don't think that is distracting from the story. Hell, I think they made Cersei and Catelyn more sympathetic in the show than the books.

I am a little annoyed that they killed the Tickler. My favorite scene in all the books is where she meets the Tickler, Polliver, and the squire with the Hound.

I don't know why they are doing what they are doing with Jon and Ygritte. IMO they have pretty much screwed up Jon, Ygritte, and Qhorin's characters for what appears to be no good reason.

 

[Chadstroma]

It is funny, before in season 1- I was on the verge of just absolutely feeling like someone was scratching their nails against a blackboard when Sansa was on screen. No way would I have ever said she was 'attractive' in any kind of description.

Now, with the spoiled brat basically beaten out of her and not being so annoyed with her. She is a pretty little girl. Gonna be a heart breaker in 5 or so years.

 

[Brady Marino]

It is funny, before in season 1- I was on the verge of just absolutely feeling like someone was scratching their nails against a blackboard when Sansa was on screen. No way would I have ever said she was 'attractive' in any kind of description. Now, with the spoiled brat basically beaten out of her and not being so annoyed with her. She is a pretty little girl. Gonna be a heart breaker in 5 or so years.

Unfortunately, she's still saddled with the charisma of a wooden table.

 

[Maelstrom]

I'm not really getting a "kindly grandpa" vibe from the Tywin/Araya scenes. To me, it comes off more like a couple poker players trying to get a read on each other.

Who taught you to read?What does your father do?How did he die?Seems grandfatherly to me--at least for a grandfather that doesn't know anything about her.

I feel like he is puzzling out an enigma. He knows something isn't quite right, but hasn't really given much thought to his cup-bearer, so hasn't put together why things aren't quite right in her story. She is trying to answer his questions with lies, knowing if he figures things out she'll be locked back up "for safe-keeping." I enjoy this little game they are playing.

 

[thecatch]

The one thing I cant get past about this show so far is Tywin and how he is not in more controll. Sure Joffery is King, but Tywin is the head of the family and he has all the money as well as a army. It just seems to me that at some point he would send a raven to Kings Landing above and beyond sending The imp as first hand in order to tell Joffery to stop being a doush.

I'm guessing his thought process is that if he keeps losing the war with Robb, it won't matter how terrible Joff is behaving.

 

[Brady Marino]

The one thing I cant get past about this show so far is Tywin and how he is not in more controll. Sure Joffery is King, but Tywin is the head of the family and he has all the money as well as a army. It just seems to me that at some point he would send a raven to Kings Landing above and beyond sending The imp as first hand in order to tell Joffery to stop being a doush.

I'm guessing his thought process is that if he keeps losing the war with Robb, it won't matter how terrible Joff is behaving.

Plus his prized son Jamie is still in captivity and has been for some time, and my guess is that's really eating away at him.

 

[shadyridr]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.

 

[GamerBoy61]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.Regarding #1

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Later in the book, doesn't Arya regret not asking for Tywin's death? She realizes she made a mistake by asking for three deaths of people she disliked but did not have a huge bearing on the big picture.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically.

 

[Kraft...]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically. Exactly, she's a kid

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

not a big fan of how they killed off Lorch, but, then again, he was never really developed all that well.

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Lorch should have been fed to the Bear. I have a feeling the Bloody Mummers are going to get the shaft in the editing process. Can't blame the show, but they were a pretty cool little facet of the story imo.

 

[shadyridr]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Spoiler

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

This was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically. Exactly, she's a kidHuh? So when the guy asked her for a name, the first person she didnt think of was Joffrey cuz shes a kid? That makes no sense.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Spoiler

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

Spoiler

This was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.

She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically. Exactly, she's a kidHuh? So when the guy asked her for a name, the first person she didnt think of was Joffrey cuz shes a kid? That makes no sense.instant gratification, instant needs >>>>>>>>> long term revengefrom the book re: joff

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“Speak the name, and death will come. On the morrow, at the turn of the moon, a year from this day, it will come. A man does not fly like a bird, but one foot moves and then another and one day a man is there, and a king dies.” He knelt beside her, so they were face-to-face, “A girl whispers if she fears to speak aloud. Whisper it now. Is it Joffrey?”

 

[Kraft...]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Spoiler

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

Spoiler

This was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.

She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically. Exactly, she's a kidHuh? So when the guy asked her for a name, the first person she didnt think of was Joffrey cuz shes a kid? That makes no sense.If you're a 10 year old and you could get rid of someone would it be the bully kicking your but every day at school or Osama bin Laden(assuming he wasn't already dead)?

 

[shadyridr]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Spoiler

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

Spoiler

This was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.

Spoiler

She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically.

Exactly, she's a kidHuh? So when the guy asked her for a name, the first person she didnt think of was Joffrey cuz shes a kid? That makes no sense.If you're a 10 year old and you could get rid of someone would it be the bully kicking your but every day at school or Osama bin Laden(assuming he wasn't already dead)?If Osama Bin Laden chopped off my father's head and I laid awake at night repeating his name over and over Id say OBL

 

[Kraft...]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Spoiler

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and Lorch

Spoiler

This was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.

Spoiler

She is still a kid and thinks short term, in the moment, emotionally instead of long term strategically.

Spoiler

Exactly, she's a kid

Huh? So when the guy asked her for a name, the first person she didnt think of was Joffrey cuz shes a kid? That makes no sense.If you're a 10 year old and you could get rid of someone would it be the bully kicking your but every day at school or Osama bin Laden(assuming he wasn't already dead)?If Osama Bin Laden chopped off my father's head and I laid awake at night repeating his name over and over Id say OBLI think the point Martin is trying to convey in the book is that she is thinking about the more immediate around her as just about any 10yo would. It takes her some time to realize her mistake but she's 10 so we can understand her thinking, although as adults we see the mistake right away. It's like when you watch a horror movie and yell at the screen for someone not to open that door etc.

 

[Ilov80s]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.I assumed the Tickler was because she wanted proof that this guy was legit. It is a pretty stupid leap of faith to assume this guy will travel to King's Landing and kill the royal family because some girl asks him to. The Tickler will give immediate proof of how legit a man is. The death this past weekend was to save her skin. If a man doesn't kill him, then a girl is locked and chained.

 

[Major]

Two areas that I think the alterations to the story don't make much sense:

1.

Spoiler

Tywin spending extensive time at Harrenhal with Arya. If this were the case in the books, Arya simply could have asked for Tywin's death knowing that it would cripple the Lannister cause.

Spoiler

2.

I'm not exactly sure where they are going with the Jon and Ygritte story arc, but Quorin Halfhand being killed by Jon (at Halfhand's orders) is a major plot point. It explains Jon turning his cloak on the Night's Watch, which would have been completely out of character otherwise.

Im surprised she didnt ask for Joffery and the queen right off the bat. I mean thats who was on her list, not the tickler and LorchThis was puzzling to me as well. Besides the obvious (the show would suck if an assassin killed them) the only explanation I can think of is she wants to kill them herself.I assumed the Tickler was because she wanted proof that this guy was legit. It is a pretty stupid leap of faith to assume this guy will travel to King's Landing and kill the royal family because some girl asks him to. The Tickler will give immediate proof of how legit a man is. The death this past weekend was to save her skin. If a man doesn't kill him, then a girl is locked and chained. especially since he's also a prisoner. Hey boss, I'm off to Kings Landing..Maybe Littlefinger will get a little too pushy for #3.

 

[jamny]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.

Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?

Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.

Getting back to Theon. I thought he was just trying to play both sides still but I guess the beheading forced him to make a choice. I still think he's going to try and rationalize it and join back with the Starks. Love where that storyline has gone.

I'm not digging the scenes with Dany. The sets look kinda cheesy and she's playing it way over dramatic. Don't like the casting of Xaro. I lose a little interest when they go to her but I'm sure that will change with the recent turn of events. Is the tower where that creepy guy from the last episode lives?

...and it was wayyy too obvious that Jon wasn't going to kill that girl once the other guys left him to do it alone. I would rather have just seen her get away from them all somehow.

 

[belljr]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.

I forget which lord or whatever.... but for payment to cross his land Robb agrees to marry one of his daughters. It was the scene where his Mom went to negotiate, Robb asks her how do they look and she says something like "one of them is not terrible "

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.

I forget which lord or whatever.... but for payment to cross his land Robb agrees to marry one of his daughters. It was the scene where his Mom went to negotiate, Robb asks her how do they look and she says something like "one of them is not terrible "

Walder Frey

 

[jamny]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.

I forget which lord or whatever.... but for payment to cross his land Robb agrees to marry one of his daughters. It was the scene where his Mom went to negotiate, Robb asks her how do they look and she says something like "one of them is not terrible "

Oh yeah...thx. I do remember that scene.