HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (3 Viewers)

[jdoggydogg]

Holy ####.

George RR Martin's web site is foul. Looks like it was designed in 1989...by George RR Martin.

Well, whoever put it together does offer a catalog of dance supplies.... so..... they got that going for them.

It was also built using a tool that offers free web hosting too.

Can't go wrong with free.

Q: Why don't you update your website more often? Some of the news is months old.A: I try to update as often as I can. There are two problems. The first is time. I have a great webmaster who does all my HTML and web design for me, but I still need to supply her with the content. So if I want to add a news item, I have to put aside the book and anything else I'm working on, and do that instead. With the book running so late, I have less for updates.

Third problem: a webmaster isn't a web designer.Fourth problem: there's this thing called CMS where any idiot can make changes to a site that's designed by a professional.

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

The guy has to be floating in cash right now.... hire people to do this kind of stuff!

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

 

[EYLive]

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

Right, so leave the man alone and let him write the books. He needs to get this story finished before he kicks it.

I'm thinking diabetes.

Increased glucose is coming

The freezer is dark and full of ice cream.

at both of those.

 

[Chadstroma]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

 

[snitwitch]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I like his retro website.ETA: the nerdery on display is impressive. from his "web log":

BATTLESTAR GALACTICA - 12/03/05The new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA on the Sci-Fi Channel has been a pleasant surprise. While I would not put it in a class with ROME or DEADWOOD, the episodes I've seen to date have pretty damn good... and certainly much better than godawful original series, the one with Lorne Greene that fans used to mock as BATTLESTAR PONDEROSA. It is easily the best thing on the Sci-Fi Channel (it puzzles me how the Sci-Fi Channel can start with a classic like EARTHSEA and turn it into drek, and then start with drek like BATTLESTAR PONDEROSA and turn it into something quite watchable, but there you are) and the best space show in many a year.I am intrigued to note that the humans on the new GALACTICA call the Cylons "toasters" as a perjorative. As best I can recall, this was never used on the original show. My guess is that they picked up the usage from "Measure of a Man," one of the few good episodes of STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, written by Melinda M. Snodgrass. This was the episode where Data is on trial to detemine if he is man or a machine; during the trial, he is referred to as a toaster. Ron Moore, who created the new GALACTICA, worked on the NEXT GEN with Melinda, and was certainly familiar with her "toaster" usage.Melinda in turn borrowed that riff from Walter Jon Williams, who had Dr. Travnicek call Modular Man a "toaster" in his WILD CARDS stories way back in 1985-86... though Modular Man appeared in our SuperWorld games long before WILD CARDS, and it may be that "toaster" (as applied to a mechanical man rather than a device for burning bread) made its first world appearance some late night in one of our games.It bemuses me to think that a witticism first tossed out in a RPG has now entered the common parlance of SF, via WILD CARDS, STAR TREK, and the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA. Toasters of the galaxy, unite.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I got into a friendly argument with a friend. He's a programmer that owns a web site that caters to contractors. Amazingly, he tried to convince me that he didn't need a "fancy" web site. He made his own. It looks like it. The way I see it, every business is a brand - everything is a commodity. Simply put, I think there are people in business making decent profits that somehow do not understand a thing about branding.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I like his retro website.

"Retro" implies the site looked good 15 years ago.

 

[belljr]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I like his retro website.

"Retro" implies the site looked good 15 years ago.

It reminds me of when my dad and I were putting his company website together, back in the late 90's early 2000's.I taught myself html etc using Frontpage then progressed onto other tools. He wanted to do it himself and used word and I showed him how to publish it etc. It was "kind of cool" back then to have something up, was just a description page with pictures and contact info but looking back it was awful I remember ####### up trying to get search engines to find the page and still not sure today if I ever got that part right

 

[Charlie Frown]

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

Right, so leave the man alone and let him write the books. He needs to get this story finished before he kicks it.

I'm thinking diabetes.

Increased glucose is coming

The freezer is dark and full of ice cream.

at both of those.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I got into a friendly argument with a friend. He's a programmer that owns a web site that caters to contractors. Amazingly, he tried to convince me that he didn't need a "fancy" web site. He made his own. It looks like it. The way I see it, every business is a brand - everything is a commodity. Simply put, I think there are people in business making decent profits that somehow do not understand a thing about branding.

I have a friend who is one of the top guys on internet branding/marketing. It's interesting stuff and he would completely concur with you.

 

[jamny]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.Getting back to Theon. I thought he was just trying to play both sides still but I guess the beheading forced him to make a choice. I still think he's going to try and rationalize it and join back with the Starks. Love where that storyline has gone. I'm not digging the scenes with Dany. The sets look kinda cheesy and she's playing it way over dramatic. Don't like the casting of Xaro. I lose a little interest when they go to her but I'm sure that will change with the recent turn of events. Is the tower where that creepy guy from the last episode lives?...and it was wayyy too obvious that Jon wasn't going to kill that girl once the other guys left him to do it alone. I would rather have just seen her get away from them all somehow.

He may think he can but as Ser Roderick said 'you are truly lost'. No room in the Stark house for him anymore.

Do you think when he took over Winterfell he was still thinking about playing both sides somehow or was he fully aligned with his father?

My take on it is that he is quite conflicted and has been since arriving at Pyke and basically being shunned when he expected to be welcomed home as the shining child savior of Pyke. His character seems to be one that has some basic flaws most prominent of which is narcissism but most likely due to being raised by the Starks has redeemable desires that counter this. He wants to be seen as a greater man than he is- which is dangerous when you have no principles or spine. I don't think for him he is 'smart' enough to play both sides. He originally went to Pyke to get his father to fight for the Starks. He believed in that but when his father went the other direction, he reluctantly (for a bit) followed. His identity has always been an "Iron Islander" as he talked about it all the time- so he will do anything to be seen as one. Taking Winterfell is all about his father seeing him as a true Iron Islander and though he is not fully rotten to the point that killing someone like Ser Roderick doesn't bother him- I just dont see him playing both sides. This is all from someone who is just watching the series and not read any books. There might be more insight gleaned from the books but from watching the series this is what I got from it.

I haven't read the books either and I agree with most of what you said but I still get the sense that he feels more aligned with the Starks. Maybe it's just the way it's been portrayed in the show since there didn't seem to be much discontent while with the Starks (even given why he was with them)and it just comes across as a quick change of heart on his part. The books may have explored his bitterness towards the Starks more which would explain his defection back to his father better. At what age was Theon taken by the Starks?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.Getting back to Theon. I thought he was just trying to play both sides still but I guess the beheading forced him to make a choice. I still think he's going to try and rationalize it and join back with the Starks. Love where that storyline has gone. I'm not digging the scenes with Dany. The sets look kinda cheesy and she's playing it way over dramatic. Don't like the casting of Xaro. I lose a little interest when they go to her but I'm sure that will change with the recent turn of events. Is the tower where that creepy guy from the last episode lives?...and it was wayyy too obvious that Jon wasn't going to kill that girl once the other guys left him to do it alone. I would rather have just seen her get away from them all somehow.

He may think he can but as Ser Roderick said 'you are truly lost'. No room in the Stark house for him anymore.

Do you think when he took over Winterfell he was still thinking about playing both sides somehow or was he fully aligned with his father?

My take on it is that he is quite conflicted and has been since arriving at Pyke and basically being shunned when he expected to be welcomed home as the shining child savior of Pyke. His character seems to be one that has some basic flaws most prominent of which is narcissism but most likely due to being raised by the Starks has redeemable desires that counter this. He wants to be seen as a greater man than he is- which is dangerous when you have no principles or spine. I don't think for him he is 'smart' enough to play both sides. He originally went to Pyke to get his father to fight for the Starks. He believed in that but when his father went the other direction, he reluctantly (for a bit) followed. His identity has always been an "Iron Islander" as he talked about it all the time- so he will do anything to be seen as one. Taking Winterfell is all about his father seeing him as a true Iron Islander and though he is not fully rotten to the point that killing someone like Ser Roderick doesn't bother him- I just dont see him playing both sides. This is all from someone who is just watching the series and not read any books. There might be more insight gleaned from the books but from watching the series this is what I got from it.

I haven't read the books either and I agree with most of what you said but I still get the sense that he feels more aligned with the Starks. Maybe it's just the way it's been portrayed in the show since there didn't seem to be much discontent while with the Starks (even given why he was with them)and it just comes across as a quick change of heart on his part. The books may have explored his bitterness towards the Starks more which would explain his defection back to his father better. At what age was Theon taken by the Starks?

He was 10.his father reminds him that robb stark is not his brother, his real brothers were killed by the Starks.Theon was lucky, the starks treated him good for a hostage, it kept the Iron Born at bay until Ned was dead and Robb took the troops south.

 

[jamny]

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.Getting back to Theon. I thought he was just trying to play both sides still but I guess the beheading forced him to make a choice. I still think he's going to try and rationalize it and join back with the Starks. Love where that storyline has gone. I'm not digging the scenes with Dany. The sets look kinda cheesy and she's playing it way over dramatic. Don't like the casting of Xaro. I lose a little interest when they go to her but I'm sure that will change with the recent turn of events. Is the tower where that creepy guy from the last episode lives?...and it was wayyy too obvious that Jon wasn't going to kill that girl once the other guys left him to do it alone. I would rather have just seen her get away from them all somehow.

He may think he can but as Ser Roderick said 'you are truly lost'. No room in the Stark house for him anymore.

Do you think when he took over Winterfell he was still thinking about playing both sides somehow or was he fully aligned with his father?

My take on it is that he is quite conflicted and has been since arriving at Pyke and basically being shunned when he expected to be welcomed home as the shining child savior of Pyke. His character seems to be one that has some basic flaws most prominent of which is narcissism but most likely due to being raised by the Starks has redeemable desires that counter this. He wants to be seen as a greater man than he is- which is dangerous when you have no principles or spine. I don't think for him he is 'smart' enough to play both sides. He originally went to Pyke to get his father to fight for the Starks. He believed in that but when his father went the other direction, he reluctantly (for a bit) followed. His identity has always been an "Iron Islander" as he talked about it all the time- so he will do anything to be seen as one. Taking Winterfell is all about his father seeing him as a true Iron Islander and though he is not fully rotten to the point that killing someone like Ser Roderick doesn't bother him- I just dont see him playing both sides. This is all from someone who is just watching the series and not read any books. There might be more insight gleaned from the books but from watching the series this is what I got from it.

I haven't read the books either and I agree with most of what you said but I still get the sense that he feels more aligned with the Starks. Maybe it's just the way it's been portrayed in the show since there didn't seem to be much discontent while with the Starks (even given why he was with them)and it just comes across as a quick change of heart on his part. The books may have explored his bitterness towards the Starks more which would explain his defection back to his father better. At what age was Theon taken by the Starks?

He was 10.his father reminds him that robb stark is not his brother, his real brothers were killed by the Starks.Theon was lucky, the starks treated him good for a hostage, it kept the Iron Born at bay until Ned was dead and Robb took the troops south.

Oh, he was 10. That's a bit different.I thought he was much younger, like 4 or 5.OK, so I'm probably reading more into it then. They should have shown him to be a little less content while with the Starks but I guess that would have made the result too obvious.thx.

 

[parrot]

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

Right, so leave the man alone and let him write the books. He needs to get this story finished before he kicks it.

That's the main reason to never look at his website; if you follow his blog you will realize he never works on finishing the books.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I like his retro website.

"Retro" implies the site looked good 15 years ago.

It reminds me of when my dad and I were putting his company website together, back in the late 90's early 2000's.I taught myself html etc using Frontpage then progressed onto other tools. He wanted to do it himself and used word and I showed him how to publish it etc. It was "kind of cool" back then to have something up, was just a description page with pictures and contact info but looking back it was awful I remember ####### up trying to get search engines to find the page and still not sure today if I ever got that part right

I remember the first web site I ever worked on back in 1993. It was awful, and every page was like 5 or 10 pages long

 

[jdoggydogg]

I do a lot of research on web design for my company, and I found something very surprising: the net is still a pretty wild frontier that some companies just have not figured out. And some of these companies have spent decent money on their sites. But the more web design you see, the more you realize just how much crappy work there is out there.

It is not even hiring people to do the web design but people to coordinate PR stuff and hire the people to do the web design, social media, update content, etc. Heck, his publisher should be falling all over themselves to do this for him. If not, the producers of Game of Thrones should be falling all over themselves to do this. It just does not make sense in this day and age. If you can't do it yourself- hire someone to do it and do it well.

I got into a friendly argument with a friend. He's a programmer that owns a web site that caters to contractors. Amazingly, he tried to convince me that he didn't need a "fancy" web site. He made his own. It looks like it. The way I see it, every business is a brand - everything is a commodity. Simply put, I think there are people in business making decent profits that somehow do not understand a thing about branding.

I have a friend who is one of the top guys on internet branding/marketing. It's interesting stuff and he would completely concur with you.

Sorry about the thread hijack.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

Right, so leave the man alone and let him write the books. He needs to get this story finished before he kicks it.

That's the main reason to never look at his website; if you follow his blog you will realize he never works on finishing the books.

It's some kind of mortal race to death wherein he's going to collapse as he pens the final sentence.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Maybe someone will come and butcher him and then finish it for him.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

good web design nerd chat up in here.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

JRR Tolkien would roll in his grave is his saw that website. Hack.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Fifth problem: fantasy authors shouldn't be working on their own web sites.

Right, so leave the man alone and let him write the books. He needs to get this story finished before he kicks it.

That's the main reason to never look at his website; if you follow his blog you will realize he never works on finishing the books.

he's probably already done, just hasnt put words to paper yet.

 

[UniAlias]

Don't mean to derail further... But someone posted a link on FBG awhile back to a site that kept cached versions of websites. It was pretty awesome seeing how awful websites I made in the late 90's were. Also fun to look at early versions of big sites.

Http://web.archive.org

 

[Ilov80s]

So my prediction is that the entire 13 are behind the dragon abduction. I wouldn't be surprised if Ducksauce somehow attempts to frame Jorah to get rid of him. Also, the girl from the pleasure houses that served Khaleesi was not shown and likely had something to do with this.

Also, I didn't see this posted, but Dinklage is on the cover of Rolling Sone this week. Master of the Game

 

[gump]

So my prediction is that the entire 13 are behind the dragon abduction. I wouldn't be surprised if Ducksauce somehow attempts to frame Jorah to get rid of him. Also, the girl from the pleasure houses that served Khaleesi was not shown and likely had something to do with it.

I'm not sure that wasn't a woman carrying dragons at the end...I saw some long hair.

 

[southeastjerome]

Sorry if this already came up, but are those who have read the books happy with how the HBO series has played out thus far?

 

[GroveDiesel]

I'm just now reading through the books and finished the second book. Wow. The next several episodes should be interesting and I'm definitely curious on where they're going with the dragon storyline.

The Arya storyline should be interesting too. I'm not sure exactly where they're going with that one either.

 

[encaitar]

Sorry if this already came up, but are those who have read the books happy with how the HBO series has played out thus far?

Yes. There are obviously some differences and some of them I feel were unnecessary, but HBO has kept with the spirit of the novels quite well. One of the best adaptions I've seen. (Hope it stays that way)

 

[Steed]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Theon is playing a 17 year old in the tv adaption. And at one point it's said that he has spent more time with the starks than the Greyjoys, so they probably took him as an 8 year old.

Is it known or just assumed that Littlefinger knows what Arya looks like? I don't remember a scene with both of them in it.Kind of stupid that Theon wouldn't just throw Osha out of the room after banging her. That didn't make sense. And why didn't she just kill him?Is Robb promised to marry someone else like his mother said? I don't remember that in the show.Getting back to Theon. I thought he was just trying to play both sides still but I guess the beheading forced him to make a choice. I still think he's going to try and rationalize it and join back with the Starks. Love where that storyline has gone. I'm not digging the scenes with Dany. The sets look kinda cheesy and she's playing it way over dramatic. Don't like the casting of Xaro. I lose a little interest when they go to her but I'm sure that will change with the recent turn of events. Is the tower where that creepy guy from the last episode lives?...and it was wayyy too obvious that Jon wasn't going to kill that girl once the other guys left him to do it alone. I would rather have just seen her get away from them all somehow.

He may think he can but as Ser Roderick said 'you are truly lost'. No room in the Stark house for him anymore.

Do you think when he took over Winterfell he was still thinking about playing both sides somehow or was he fully aligned with his father?

My take on it is that he is quite conflicted and has been since arriving at Pyke and basically being shunned when he expected to be welcomed home as the shining child savior of Pyke. His character seems to be one that has some basic flaws most prominent of which is narcissism but most likely due to being raised by the Starks has redeemable desires that counter this. He wants to be seen as a greater man than he is- which is dangerous when you have no principles or spine. I don't think for him he is 'smart' enough to play both sides. He originally went to Pyke to get his father to fight for the Starks. He believed in that but when his father went the other direction, he reluctantly (for a bit) followed. His identity has always been an "Iron Islander" as he talked about it all the time- so he will do anything to be seen as one. Taking Winterfell is all about his father seeing him as a true Iron Islander and though he is not fully rotten to the point that killing someone like Ser Roderick doesn't bother him- I just dont see him playing both sides. This is all from someone who is just watching the series and not read any books. There might be more insight gleaned from the books but from watching the series this is what I got from it.

I haven't read the books either and I agree with most of what you said but I still get the sense that he feels more aligned with the Starks. Maybe it's just the way it's been portrayed in the show since there didn't seem to be much discontent while with the Starks (even given why he was with them)and it just comes across as a quick change of heart on his part. The books may have explored his bitterness towards the Starks more which would explain his defection back to his father better. At what age was Theon taken by the Starks?

He was 10.his father reminds him that robb stark is not his brother, his real brothers were killed by the Starks.Theon was lucky, the starks treated him good for a hostage, it kept the Iron Born at bay until Ned was dead and Robb took the troops south.

 

[Steed]

Wow wow wow, what an episode!

 

[TLEF316]

Good episode. Cool ending (even though its painfully obvious what actually happened)

 

[mad sweeney]

Wow wow wow, what an episode!

Probably my favorite of the series so far. I think Martin wrote this one, no? Lots of deviations from the books but they aren't bothering me this season. I'm just letting them get to where they're going without worrying about it. Some of the new actors suck, but oh well. I particularly don't care for Jaquen or Xhoro. Jaquen has the coolest language quirks but delivers them with nothing behind them. Tragic. The stuff North of the Wall is painfully beautiful. It's got to be CGIed, largely, because you just can't shoot a scene with the sun that low on the horizon for the whole sequence. But damn, they are phenomenally done. Glad she finally said "You know nothing Jon Snow", because frankly, it needs to be said. Best dialogue from start to finish, by far, of any episode. The other staff writers ought to look at this one often when they're writing. Oh, and screw Theon. Nothing redeemable whatsoever in him. Too bad that he's just trying to please Daddy. Can't wait to see what happens to him.

 

[EYLive]

Wow wow wow, what an episode!

Probably my favorite of the series so far. I think Martin wrote this one, no? Lots of deviations from the books but they aren't bothering me this season. I'm just letting them get to where they're going without worrying about it. Some of the new actors suck, but oh well. I particularly don't care for Jaquen or Xhoro. Jaquen has the coolest language quirks but delivers them with nothing behind them. Tragic. The stuff North of the Wall is painfully beautiful. It's got to be CGIed, largely, because you just can't shoot a scene with the sun that low on the horizon for the whole sequence. But damn, they are phenomenally done. Glad she finally said "You know nothing Jon Snow", because frankly, it needs to be said. Best dialogue from start to finish, by far, of any episode. The other staff writers ought to look at this one often when they're writing. Oh, and screw Theon. Nothing redeemable whatsoever in him. Too bad that he's just trying to please Daddy. Can't wait to see what happens to him.

The north of the wall scenes were filmed on a glacier in Iceland, so I'm guessing the lighting was natural.I'm not sure I like the Arya/Tywin interaction. It feels too much like Dennis the Menace and Mr. Wilson.The Dany story line is kinda loopy.

 

[Ilov80s]

The ending got me for a couple minutes. I then thought that isn't how GoT has treated the deaths of characters, we would have seen them. However, it was pretty heavy. I thought the episode was ok. After last week's thrill ride, this just felt a bit flat IMO.

 

[shadyridr]

So was that the kids burnt or not? (Dont answer that)

Were their arms chopped off?

 

[shadyridr]

Also, why did the preview for next week say only 2 episodes left?

 

[=Smackdown=]

Not sure why the coming attractions said there are only 2 episodes left?

Most GOT sites list 3 more. . .

The Prince of Winterfell

Blackwater

Valar Morghulis

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

cant wait to see the House of UnDying. I really dont mind how they altered the Qarth story for the series.

Robb Stark better be careful too, seems like alot of his bannerman are having a growing discontent with him even though they are winning the war.

 

[mad sweeney]

Wow wow wow, what an episode!

Probably my favorite of the series so far. I think Martin wrote this one, no? Lots of deviations from the books but they aren't bothering me this season. I'm just letting them get to where they're going without worrying about it. Some of the new actors suck, but oh well. I particularly don't care for Jaquen or Xhoro. Jaquen has the coolest language quirks but delivers them with nothing behind them. Tragic. The stuff North of the Wall is painfully beautiful. It's got to be CGIed, largely, because you just can't shoot a scene with the sun that low on the horizon for the whole sequence. But damn, they are phenomenally done. Glad she finally said "You know nothing Jon Snow", because frankly, it needs to be said. Best dialogue from start to finish, by far, of any episode. The other staff writers ought to look at this one often when they're writing. Oh, and screw Theon. Nothing redeemable whatsoever in him. Too bad that he's just trying to please Daddy. Can't wait to see what happens to him.

The north of the wall scenes were filmed on a glacier in Iceland, so I'm guessing the lighting was natural.I'm not sure I like the Arya/Tywin interaction. It feels too much like Dennis the Menace and Mr. Wilson.The Dany story line is kinda loopy.

They can still add in a sun where there wasn't one before. Just seems like for one of the scenes it stayed right at the edge of some rocks deep in the background for far longer than seems natural to get several shots done needed for the scene. Those kinds of effects are pretty common, but then again, maybe because of the latitude the sun doesn't move as fast.

 

[shadyridr]

What's all the hullaballo about the "You Know Nothing, Jon Snow" line? I never read the books.

 

[mad sweeney]

What's all the hullaballo about the "You Know Nothing, Jon Snow" line? I never read the books.

Gonna have to wait and find out.

 

[Foosball God]

What's all the hullaballo about the "You Know Nothing, Jon Snow" line? I never read the books.

You know nothing shadyridr

 

[Buckna]

Loving this season. The departures so far have been for the best IMO. The Quarth storyline is a real in the book so they did a great job improving it. Not sure how I like the slight changes to Snow's story but looks like we need to give it a little more time.

We've barely seen him this season, but Jamie Lannister knows how to make the most of his scenes, doesn't he?

 

[Steed]

Loving this season. The departures so far have been for the best IMO. The Quarth storyline is a real in the book so they did a great job improving it. Not sure how I like the slight changes to Snow's story but looks like we need to give it a little more time.We've barely seen him this season, but Jamie Lannister knows how to make the most of his scenes, doesn't he?

Right when you start to feel a little empathy for Jaime, he goes and does that. Probably the best scene of the season?

 

[Froglova]

I'm guessing the two burnt kids were

Spoiler

the two orphans

Am I right?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm guessing the two burnt kids were

Spoiler

the two orphans

Am I right?

maybe

 

[Buckna]

Loving this season. The departures so far have been for the best IMO. The Quarth storyline is a real in the book so they did a great job improving it. Not sure how I like the slight changes to Snow's story but looks like we need to give it a little more time.We've barely seen him this season, but Jamie Lannister knows how to make the most of his scenes, doesn't he?

Right when you start to feel a little empathy for Jaime, he goes and does that. Probably the best scene of the season?

Pretty good, but I am overly fond of any time Tyrion slaps Joffrey.

 

[Buckna]

This is the first episode I can remember consistently laughing a lot at. Ygritte's dialogue had me rolling. From her wiggling her butt against Snow to all her comments:

"Did mi-lord hide a dagger in his pants while I was asleep?"

"So you men do each other?"

"Well do you have any sheep there?"

"Oh I get it, you just use your hand then?"

 

[EYLive]

The series has turned Dany from a conqueror into a begger like her brother. :(

 

[Kraft...]

The Tyrion + Cersi scene was very well done. There is a moment in the books(can't remember which or where) that they have that kind of moment. He wants so much to be her brother and comfort her but there is just to much damage there to make it happen.

 

[EYLive]

Spoiler

I guess no Jojen and Meera Reed

 

[Chadstroma]

Wait... so they are calling it the war of 5 Kings but they don't know about Dany (nor is she waging war) and they don't know about the Wildlings King beyond the Wall.... so, where are they getting 5 Kings? They being like how Tywin mentions 'they are calling it the war of five kings'