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Isn't that what happened in the book? Halfhand wanted to "know something" about Jon and what he would do in the situation. The annoying changes that bother me are things like Jaime stabbing the Mad King in the back instead of slitting his throat, same for the shade killing Renly. There are a handful of other details changed for Gods know why.
I would guess they went with stab in the back to clearly establish Jamie killing the king was also figuratively stabbing him the back. Renly, it was probably just easier to CGI that way.
Possibly on Jaime, but they've gone out of their way repeatedly to make that clear verbally. As for the CGI, I don't see how it's easier. There's throat slitting of guards and soldiers going on all over the place, I just watched Osha do it in fact. Not doing it for a major scene like Renly's death doesn't seem like a place where they'd opt to use an easier route, especially when the killer is a CGI apparition to begin with.
Who knows. I think it makes no difference at all.
That's my point, why make the changes in the first place?eta: in the very next episode I just watched, 11 of the 13 of Qarth got their throats slit and Jaime talked about the Mad King's insanity and why he killed him. So, I' just don't see the reasons you stated as being of much bearing as to why.
I find that I have very little problem with the little things like how someone was killed on the show vs. book. But some of the storyline changes they've made, like Jon's arc and even to a lesser extent Robb's arc, mystify me. I don't see how one way or the other is any better for TV except that the writer decided it was. Robb's bother's me a little less cause I can understand them not wanting to show him ... (minor book 2 spoiler)
But I think in many cases the TV writers (or Martin, when he has done the writing) have been over-thinking things a bit too much.
Mord reappears in the books. A lordship with the walking around money from Tyrion's purse?
I know right?'hotdogcollars said:About 2/3 of the way thru Storm of Swords and all i can say is
Wait until you get to the end.'hotdogcollars said:About 2/3 of the way thru Storm of Swords and all i can say is
Yes. Season 1 follows almost 100% to Thrones. There is slight overlap at the end, and of course the show is not as detailed as the book.Season 2 is also about the events of Kings, however, Season 2 took some liberties, but the story is mostly the same (save for Dany's).Seasons 3 and 4 are going to both cover the 3rd book, A Storm of Swords. After that, I am not sure what the plans are. Books 4 (A Feast for Crows) and 5 (A Dance with Dragons) actually take place simultaneously, but cover different characters, although at some point in book 5, it catches up to book 4 and continues onward.
I think season 1 is still on-demand. Season 1 was better IMO.Looking forward to buying the series once it comes out on DVD. I didn't realize it when I watched it that this past season was actually season 2.
He would have been better off dressing as Littlefinger.
Storm of Swords is friggin amazing. One of a very few books i've ever read where I wanted to get home each night and dive into it.Holding off on Book 4 until after my move next week. But, it would be tough to top book 3
FWIW...I'm about 550+ pages into book 4 and I'm enjoying it.
After just finishing one, I thought that the show could have done a little better job of expanding on some of the motives and personalities of the characters. The show didn't do a good enough job of explaining how people in the realms viewed the Lannisters specifically.
The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.
yepand the underlying theme of GoT WW Version 1.0Cut and paste.Isn't that a quote from Jorah Mormont?
Might have to do this. I've got time right now and there are a few games in front of me. Need to confer with my former co-mod Sac (I will need help).Need Version 2.0, and to be held here at FBG Throne.'JerseyToughGuys said:yepand the underlying theme of GoT WW Version 1.0'Sinn Fein said:Cut and paste.'JerseyToughGuys said:'Sinn Fein said:
I agree with Vrana. A lot of the reviewers were upset about the length of time between books as well, particularly since they were originally supposed to be the "same" book, and so 1/2 of book 5 should have been finished (in theory) when book 4 came out.They read MUCH better when you can read them back to back without a 5 year gap in between.
There's bloat in both, but when/if the series is done and people are reading the series front-to-back it won't matter near as much.
All well and good, but asking people to pay for unfinished stories that won't be tied up for another 5 years is a slap to the face. The argument that it will read better when it's finished isn't a ringing endorsement of the individual installments. Personally, I thought book 4 was decent, but barely advanced the plot in what's supposed to be a 7 book series. Book 5 was crap.
We can agree to disagree about book 5 (which I thought was full of fat, but had Martin's best writing to date). But you make my point for me - years from now, people won't be "paying for unfinished stories", they'll be able to plow through the entire story. Fans now probably feel like Tolkien's did in 1953 when FOTR came out.All well and good, but asking people to pay for unfinished stories that won't be tied up for another 5 years is a slap to the face. The argument that it will read better when it's finished isn't a ringing endorsement of the individual installments. Personally, I thought book 4 was decent, but barely advanced the plot in what's supposed to be a 7 book series. Book 5 was crap.
It is pretty normal. Look at TV shows. If you watch a new TV show, you are investing in an unfinished idea and there is no guarantee it will ever be renewed or resolved.
This is a bummer.McNulty (Dominick West) turned down the Mance Rayder role.
He didn't feel like being in Iceland apparently.This is a bummer.McNulty (Dominick West) turned down the Mance Rayder role.
You're not paying 30-40 bucks straight up for a TV show, and you assume that the unfinished idea will have a resolution, or at least a logical break point at the end of the season. When that doesn't happen, it's disappointing, much as it was for me with A Dance With Dragons.
Most of Charles Dickens's novels were originally published in monthly installments, a few chapters at a time, over the course of a couple years.
right...
Nowhere did I say that I'm not going to read it. Just not planning on spending money on it.
