HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (3 Viewers)

[Gr00vus]

Someone said in the other thread that the beginning of this episode was supposed to be after the attack on The Fist. This doesn't make any sense.

The Season 2 finale ended with Sam, Grenn, and Edd collecting fire ####. Then the horns blast, once, twice, and then three times indicating White Walkers were coming. It was the Watchmen at the Fist blowing the horns obviously. Grenn and Edd head back to the fist to regroup with the others. Sam either falls or just is scared and cowers behind a rock as the White Walkers and wights pass him by. They may or may not have seen him, but they do not attack him. Fade to black. Season 3 opening: black screen with sounds of screams, swords, animals, and battle, then nothing. The battle is pretty much over and we didn't see anything likely due to budget restraints. Sam is now running towards the Fist. The Old Bear saves Sam and we see a bunch of tattered Watchmen, but nowhere near as many as had traveled beyond the Wall. Now they are journeying back to the wall in order to warn the realm and other Watchmen. Sam was a coward who hid during the battle, rather than trying to reach the Fist in order to send ravens. I suspect we will see the dragonglass scene later as a redemption for Sam's cowardice.

This is starting to annoy me with this show. A big part of the appeal to a great fantasy series are these big, epic, brutal battles. Most of these fights in the books entailed thousands of men. The TV show battles are relegated to a couple of hundred dudes on a much smaller scale. It really detracts from the gigantic epicness of these wars.

I'm not a moviemakingguy, but I can conceptualize a budget. This series has got rankings through the roof. Isn't it making enough ######## money to start showing some really big battles? Can't some CGI mixed with a bunch of extras take care of this? Or is all the cash going to pay the various strippers to flash teh goods in each episode (which I'm okay with, too).

The battle at the Fist is more confounding. We were talking about, what 100-200 Crows? Nothing huge. The battle in the book was a brutal fight and contained a huge turning point for the Crows and Sam. Why not show it?

To be fair, Martin doesn't spend much time describing battles in the book either. After seeing how crummy the CGI was for the zombie army in the last episode of season 2, and how much trouble the actors seem to have synching up with the CGI's actors in scenes in general, I think they probably made the right choice not trying to depict a full on battle with them.

 

[(HULK)]

Someone said in the other thread that the beginning of this episode was supposed to be after the attack on The Fist. This doesn't make any sense.

The Season 2 finale ended with Sam, Grenn, and Edd collecting fire ####. Then the horns blast, once, twice, and then three times indicating White Walkers were coming. It was the Watchmen at the Fist blowing the horns obviously. Grenn and Edd head back to the fist to regroup with the others. Sam either falls or just is scared and cowers behind a rock as the White Walkers and wights pass him by. They may or may not have seen him, but they do not attack him. Fade to black. Season 3 opening: black screen with sounds of screams, swords, animals, and battle, then nothing. The battle is pretty much over and we didn't see anything likely due to budget restraints. Sam is now running towards the Fist. The Old Bear saves Sam and we see a bunch of tattered Watchmen, but nowhere near as many as had traveled beyond the Wall. Now they are journeying back to the wall in order to warn the realm and other Watchmen. Sam was a coward who hid during the battle, rather than trying to reach the Fist in order to send ravens. I suspect we will see the dragonglass scene later as a redemption for Sam's cowardice.

This is starting to annoy me with this show. A big part of the appeal to a great fantasy series are these big, epic, brutal battles. Most of these fights in the books entailed thousands of men. The TV show battles are relegated to a couple of hundred dudes on a much smaller scale. It really detracts from the gigantic epicness of these wars.

I'm not a moviemakingguy, but I can conceptualize a budget. This series has got rankings through the roof. Isn't it making enough ######## money to start showing some really big battles? Can't some CGI mixed with a bunch of extras take care of this? Or is all the cash going to pay the various strippers to flash teh goods in each episode (which I'm okay with, too).

The battle at the Fist is more confounding. We were talking about, what 100-200 Crows? Nothing huge. The battle in the book was a brutal fight and contained a huge turning point for the Crows and Sam. Why not show it?

They didn't show it because that was Sam's POV and he wasn't at the Fist. Each scene in the show is always one characters POV.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

I can't remember the final episode from S2 and did not see it in this episode. Did they show Sam kill a Whitewalker (or even bring up) with the Dragonglass?

I don't think so.

there seems to be a departure from the book going on here. Interested in where the change is headed.

IIRC Sam kills an Other (not just a lowly whitewalker) with obsidion on the march back from the Fist/Crasters. So that should happen in the next few episodes of the show I figure. They did find dragonglass, which Sam identified in a previous episode. It was a brief scene where Gren dug it up from under a stone marked by the first men.

Actually I remember the dragon glass now thst u mention it. I should go back and watch season two before I day to much.

 

[(HULK)]

I can't remember the final episode from S2 and did not see it in this episode. Did they show Sam kill a Whitewalker (or even bring up) with the Dragonglass?

I don't think so.

there seems to be a departure from the book going on here. Interested in where the change is headed.

I thought that happened on the trek back to the wall and not at the Fist?

 

[EYLive]

I wonder if the HBO people can buy/use the AI that the LOTR used for their battle scenes. Some decent CGI and good AI would work wonders for the show.

 

[Slider6]

I'm just going to go ahead and leave this right here.

http://coedmagazine.com/2013/03/29/the-girls-of-game-of-thrones-photos/

ETA: That site is NSFW, not sure about the pics themselves I haven't had time to look.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I don't mind the missing battle scenes - the story is more about the characters than the various battles along the way.

Maybe we'll see more later at the wall, or when Daenerys takes her slave army on a rampage - but even then, the battles are more a means to an end.

 

[Psychopav]

I can't remember the final episode from S2 and did not see it in this episode.

Spoiler

Did they show Sam kill a Whitewalker (or even bring up) with the Dragonglass?

Spoiler

I don't think so.

Spoiler

there seems to be a departure from the book going on here. Interested in where the change is headed.

Spoiler

IIRC Sam kills an Other (not just a lowly whitewalker) with obsidion on the march back from the Fist/Crasters. So that should happen in the next few episodes of the show I figure.

They did find dragonglass, which Sam identified in a previous episode. It was a brief scene where Gren dug it up from under a stone marked by the first men.

You should probably spoiler anything that includes "...so that should happen in the next few episodes..." or "Did they show XXX from the books yet?"

 

[Gr00vus]

I can't remember the final episode from S2 and did not see it in this episode.

Spoiler

Did they show Sam kill a Whitewalker (or even bring up) with the Dragonglass?

Spoiler

I don't think so.

Spoiler

there seems to be a departure from the book going on here. Interested in where the change is headed.

Spoiler

IIRC Sam kills an Other (not just a lowly whitewalker) with obsidion on the march back from the Fist/Crasters. So that should happen in the next few episodes of the show I figure.

They did find dragonglass, which Sam identified in a previous episode. It was a brief scene where Gren dug it up from under a stone marked by the first men.

You should probably spoiler anything that includes "...so that should happen in the next few episodes..." or "Did they show XXX from the books yet?"

Sorry, I got this thread mixed up with the Dance With Dragons thread.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

in regards to the battle scenes I have a feeling they will be lot better this season. Even robb.s army on the march looked better.

 

[mad sweeney]

So what happens even if Dany reclaims the throne? Surely she will grow old and die. And she is barren so there is no heir.

Aegon Targaryen maybe.

I have not read the books, but I am assuming Jon Snow has an interesting backstory. I wouldn't be surprised he had a Targaryan bloodline. We know how Ned feels about honor, self-sacrifice, and child murder. Jon could be half Targaryan and Ned protected him with this ******* story.

I tend to subscribe to the theory that Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark are his parents.

It makes sense even as someone that hasn't read the books. It fits in with the plot so far that the main heroes would be 2 family members, one born out of rape and the other out of incest. ETA: Since the story isn't done and has spanned over so many years, I wonder if the conspiracy theories impact Martin's handling of the final books. Does the fact that so many people think this to be true make him more or less likely to actually write it that way whether he intended it or didn't?

Lyanna wasn't raped most likely. The prevailing theory is a doomed love affair between her and R that Robert spun into a kidnapping, or maybe he even believed it. But if Jon is their son, it was mutual dragon boning.

 

[mad sweeney]

Someone said in the other thread that the beginning of this episode was supposed to be after the attack on The Fist. This doesn't make any sense.

The Season 2 finale ended with Sam, Grenn, and Edd collecting fire ####. Then the horns blast, once, twice, and then three times indicating White Walkers were coming. It was the Watchmen at the Fist blowing the horns obviously. Grenn and Edd head back to the fist to regroup with the others. Sam either falls or just is scared and cowers behind a rock as the White Walkers and wights pass him by. They may or may not have seen him, but they do not attack him. Fade to black. Season 3 opening: black screen with sounds of screams, swords, animals, and battle, then nothing. The battle is pretty much over and we didn't see anything likely due to budget restraints. Sam is now running towards the Fist. The Old Bear saves Sam and we see a bunch of tattered Watchmen, but nowhere near as many as had traveled beyond the Wall. Now they are journeying back to the wall in order to warn the realm and other Watchmen. Sam was a coward who hid during the battle, rather than trying to reach the Fist in order to send ravens. I suspect we will see the dragonglass scene later as a redemption for Sam's cowardice.

This is starting to annoy me with this show. A big part of the appeal to a great fantasy series are these big, epic, brutal battles. Most of these fights in the books entailed thousands of men. The TV show battles are relegated to a couple of hundred dudes on a much smaller scale. It really detracts from the gigantic epicness of these wars. I'm not a moviemakingguy, but I can conceptualize a budget. This series has got rankings through the roof. Isn't it making enough ######## money to start showing some really big battles? Can't some CGI mixed with a bunch of extras take care of this? Or is all the cash going to pay the various strippers to flash teh goods in each episode (which I'm okay with, too). The battle at the Fist is more confounding. We were talking about, what 100-200 Crows? Nothing huge. The battle in the book was a brutal fight and contained a huge turning point for the Crows and Sam. Why not show it?

Haven't read the books in awhile, but other than Blackwater, doesn't Martin pretty much gloss over the battles himself and concentrate on the characters before and after the fighting? I'm not sure that the battle on the Fist was actually flushed out in the book. I understand draw frustration, but that's in keeping with the style of the books if I am remembering correctly.

 

[Sabertooth]

I updated the name of this thread for clarity.

 

[Gr00vus]

Luann's wasn't raped most likely

I think you mean Lyanna. You're getting your King Of The Hill and Clash Of Kings mixed up.

 

[mad sweeney]

Luann's wasn't raped most likely

I think you mean Lyanna. You're getting your King Of The Hill and Clash Of Kings mixed up.

Autocorrect @%*¥#. Sometimes it doesn't do it for capitalized words, sometimes it does.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I updated the name of this thread for clarity.

So no more need for spoiler tags?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I updated the name of this thread for clarity.

So no more need for spoiler tags?

I want to end up in the GoT thread where the spoiler nazis don't go. Is this it?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I updated the name of this thread for clarity.

So no more need for spoiler tags?

I want to end up in the GoT thread where the spoiler nazis don't go. Is this it?

I HOPE SO. If there's a distinct thread for the show and certain books (I know there's a ADWD one, are there others?) there shouldnt be a need for spoiler tags....rename this the "I read all the books thread"

 

[mad sweeney]

So let me get this straight. In this thread, the magnum opus GoT thread, we need to have spoiler tags for spoilers in a book that's a year old (or exactly when/what book do spoilers start?). In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?

If you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Use spoiler tags for stuff that hasn't been shown on TV yet.

It can be helpful to label your spoilers so that people who've read up to book three, or book four, or book five, can know whether it's a spoiler for them. (E.g., "Spoiler if you haven't finished A Storm of Swords.") But that's optional.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

mad sweeney, on 03 Apr 2013 - 13:54, said:In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?

If your discussion of the books is not related to the TV show, it should probably go in the book threads, but that's up to you. If your discussion of the books is related to the TV show, it makes sense to have it here. Either way, appropriate use of spoiler tags should be used.

QuoteIf you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

I don't think it's absurd. A lot of people were turned onto the books by the TV show, which debuted only two years ago. Getting through ADWD means reading 7,000+ pages. How many pages of fiction do people normally read in two years?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This thread is kind of a catch-all. We still need to use spoilers to an extent though (with brief descriptions of the subject before the tag). This thread was great for me as somebody who decided to start reading the books after viewing the first few episodes of Season 1. It allowed me to watch, read, and ask questions about the book and show, without being spoiled (or warned that I shouldn't read certain things if I didn't want to be spoiled). I'd hate for somebody's experience to get ruined because of thread nazism. I've enjoyed this thread, the books, and the show without any issues.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

p.s. I'm really looking forward to

Spoiler

THE REEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!UBLIBVIOVBDVBPVBDPVBP:V!BVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mad sweeney]

mad sweeney, on 03 Apr 2013 - 13:54, said:In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?

If your discussion of the books is not related to the TV show, it should probably go in the book threads, but that's up to you. If your discussion of the books is related to the TV show, it makes sense to have it here. Either way, appropriate use of spoiler tags should be used.

QuoteIf you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

I don't think it's absurd. A lot of people were turned onto the books by the TV show, which debuted only two years ago. Getting through ADWD means reading 7,000+ pages. How many pages of fiction do people normally read in two years?

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

 

[Sinn Fein]

mad sweeney, on 03 Apr 2013 - 13:54, said:In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?

If your discussion of the books is not related to the TV show, it should probably go in the book threads, but that's up to you. If your discussion of the books is related to the TV show, it makes sense to have it here. Either way, appropriate use of spoiler tags should be used.

>QuoteIf you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

I don't think it's absurd. A lot of people were turned onto the books by the TV show, which debuted only two years ago. Getting through ADWD means reading 7,000+ pages. How many pages of fiction do people normally read in two years?

I started the books after season 1, and am caught up. Its not rocket science.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

This thread was initially about HBO acquiring the rights to the books. Once the show started airing, it became a thread about the TV show, and about the relationship of the TV show to the books. People in this thread have always used spoiler tags to avoid spoiling stuff for TV show-watchers.

Since this thread always avoided spoilers, the other thread was not started to avoid spoilers. That would be redundant. Rather, it was started to avoid discussions of the books.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I started the books after season 1, and am caught up. Its not rocket science.

I didn't say it was absurd to have read all the books. I said it was not absurd not to have read all the books.

 

[Moe.]

On other boards/sites I have seen a "TV Show only" thread that is specifically for the TV Show. So if you post in that thread you basically just need to pretend that the books don't exist or you haven't read them. No spoiler tags because anything that would need to go in spoilers just doesn't belong in the thread at all. Then there is another thread for the TV Show, but it's assumed that everyone reading the thread has also read the books, so you can discuss differences, projections, etc without the need for spoilers. Then just have a thread for specifically the books, like the ADWD thread we have here. We seem to have three threads each with a little bit of all of the above. We need a non-book TV thread, a book readers TV thread, and a book thread. Spoiler tags wouldn't be necessary in any of those threads.

 

[FootballDummy]

So let me get this straight. In this thread, the magnum opus GoT thread, we need to have spoiler tags for spoilers in a book that's a year old (or exactly when/what book do spoilers start?). In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?If you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

I'm not reading it until he finishes the series or dies. I'm not rereading the whole series every time he puts out a book because it's been 6 years and I've forgotten things.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

This thread was initially about HBO acquiring the rights to the books. Once the show started airing, it became a thread about the TV show, and about the relationship of the TV show to the books. People in this thread have always used spoiler tags to avoid spoiling stuff for TV show-watchers.

Since this thread always avoided spoilers, the other thread was not started to avoid spoilers. That would be redundant. Rather, it was started to avoid discussions of the books.

I actually think that thread was started because the OP couldn't find this thread for some reason. Then it evolved into the "do not discuss the books" version.

 

[EYLive]

I started the books after season 1, and am caught up. Its not rocket science.

Me too. And I read at a 4th grade level. If I can do you, so can you!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

This thread was initially about HBO acquiring the rights to the books. Once the show started airing, it became a thread about the TV show, and about the relationship of the TV show to the books. People in this thread have always used spoiler tags to avoid spoiling stuff for TV show-watchers.

Since this thread always avoided spoilers, the other thread was not started to avoid spoilers. That would be redundant. Rather, it was started to avoid discussions of the books.

 

[EYLive]

So let me get this straight. In this thread, the magnum opus GoT thread, we need to have spoiler tags for spoilers in a book that's a year old (or exactly when/what book do spoilers start?). In the TV show thread we can't mention the books at all, and if we want to discuss the entire series without having multiple spoiler tags in conversations, then we have to do it in the ADWD thread?If you're this deep into the thread and haven't read ADWD yet, then you deserve to read spoilers. That's absurd.

I'm not reading it until he finishes the series or dies. I'm not rereading the whole series every time he puts out a book because it's been 6 years and I've forgotten things.

That's not a bad idea if you don't mind waiting until 2026.

I finished ADWD last summer and can't remember a dang thing. I read the Arianne Martel chapter from the upcoming book and was trying to figure out who did what.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So we need a 4th thread where anything goes?

 

[Gr00vus]

How many pages of fiction do people normally read in two years?

Depends - are we including FFA threads in the count or not?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'd say it took me about one full year to read all five books in a row. I did put them down for extended periods of time though.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm just going to go ahead and leave this right here.

http://coedmagazine.com/2013/03/29/the-girls-of-game-of-thrones-photos/

ETA: That site is NSFW, not sure about the pics themselves I haven't had time to look.

Pretty surprised that Lena Headly is only 29 years old. She looks like a smoking hot late 30s early 40s women in the show.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm just going to go ahead and leave this right here.

http://coedmagazine.com/2013/03/29/the-girls-of-game-of-thrones-photos/

ETA: That site is NSFW, not sure about the pics themselves I haven't had time to look.

Pretty surprised that Lena Headly is only 29 years old. She looks like a smoking hot late 30s early 40s women in the show.

That's Headey!!! Also, she's 39 (born in '73), so your initial take is dead on.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Meh, Natalie Dormer is 31 but Margaery Tyrell looks like she's 18, tops. It's funny how the actress who plays Margaery is actually older than the actress who plays Cersei.

 

[Thunderlips]

I don't know if it's been brought up....but who are the three (maybe) whom Jamie Lannister thinks could give him a fight...per his conversation with Brienne?

My vote....

1) The Mountain

2) Barristan Selmy

3) The Hound or The Red Viper.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'm just going to go ahead and leave this right here.

http://coedmagazine.com/2013/03/29/the-girls-of-game-of-thrones-photos/

ETA: That site is NSFW, not sure about the pics themselves I haven't had time to look.

Pretty surprised that Lena Headly is only 29 years old. She looks like a smoking hot late 30s early 40s women in the show.

That's Heady!!! Also, she's 39 (born in '73), so your initial take is dead on.

I thought so. That site is way off wrong.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I can't remember the final episode from S2 and did not see it in this episode. Did they show Sam kill a Whitewalker (or even bring up) with the Dragonglass?

I don't think so.

there seems to be a departure from the book going on here. Interested in where the change is headed.

I thought the end of Season Two was a bit baffling too.

1. In the book the first time we see a White Walker up close is when Sam kills it on his way back to the wall.

2. In the closing moments of the episode, it seemed like the White Walker looked directly at Sam. How the hell is he still alive?

 

[Brady Marino]

Meh, Natalie Dormer is 31 but Margaery Tyrell looks like she's 18, tops. It's funny how the actress who plays Margaery is actually older than the actress who plays Cersei.

Lena Headey is 39.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Meh, Natalie Dormer is 31 but Margaery Tyrell looks like she's 18, tops. It's funny how the actress who plays Margaery is actually older than the actress who plays Cersei.

Lena Headey is 39.

I know. Pretty sure there's a typo on the site. It has her as 29.

 

[bonesman]

I don't know if it's been brought up....but who are the three (maybe) whom Jamie Lannister thinks could give him a fight...per his conversation with Brienne?

My vote....

1) The Mountain

2) Barristan Selmy

3) The Hound or The Red Viper.

Loras Tyrell if it's a joust

 

[mad sweeney]

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

This thread was initially about HBO acquiring the rights to the books. Once the show started airing, it became a thread about the TV show, and about the relationship of the TV show to the books. People in this thread have always used spoiler tags to avoid spoiling stuff for TV show-watchers. Since this thread always avoided spoilers, the other thread was not started to avoid spoilers. That would be redundant. Rather, it was started to avoid discussions of the books.

I actually think that thread was started because the OP couldn't find this thread for some reason. Then it evolved into the "do not discuss the books" version.

And this thread was started by a fan of the books, to talk about the books and how the show is going to portray the books. MT said that people only had two years to read the series since the show started, but this thread started well before the show aired. What's the cutoff for spoilers? Is it really a huge difference between reading 1-4 vs reading 1-5? The fifth book has been out for over almost two years, that's plenty of time for people to have read it and if we can't talk about the books in the other thread, then people who don't want spoilers should read the other thread. Spoiler tags really limit the ease of discussion. Shouldn't need them anymore in this thread. No reason to clutter up the ADWD thread with all the tv talk either. You don't want book spoilers, go to the non spoiler book thread! Having both show threads being spoiler leery is dumb.

 

[shuke]

Someone said in the other thread that the beginning of this episode was supposed to be after the attack on The Fist. This doesn't make any sense.

The Season 2 finale ended with Sam, Grenn, and Edd collecting fire ####. Then the horns blast, once, twice, and then three times indicating White Walkers were coming. It was the Watchmen at the Fist blowing the horns obviously. Grenn and Edd head back to the fist to regroup with the others. Sam either falls or just is scared and cowers behind a rock as the White Walkers and wights pass him by. They may or may not have seen him, but they do not attack him. Fade to black. Season 3 opening: black screen with sounds of screams, swords, animals, and battle, then nothing. The battle is pretty much over and we didn't see anything likely due to budget restraints. Sam is now running towards the Fist. The Old Bear saves Sam and we see a bunch of tattered Watchmen, but nowhere near as many as had traveled beyond the Wall. Now they are journeying back to the wall in order to warn the realm and other Watchmen. Sam was a coward who hid during the battle, rather than trying to reach the Fist in order to send ravens. I suspect we will see the dragonglass scene later as a redemption for Sam's cowardice.

Hmm. I thought the dragonglass episode occurred at the Fist.

 

[shuke]

p.s. I'm really looking forward to

Spoiler

THE REEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!UBLIBVIOVBDVBPVBDPVBP:V!BVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[shuke]

I thought this was the book series thread and a non spoiler thread was started to accommodate those that didn't want spoilers.

This thread was initially about HBO acquiring the rights to the books. Once the show started airing, it became a thread about the TV show, and about the relationship of the TV show to the books. People in this thread have always used spoiler tags to avoid spoiling stuff for TV show-watchers.

Since this thread always avoided spoilers, the other thread was not started to avoid spoilers. That would be redundant. Rather, it was started to avoid discussions of the books.

I actually think that thread was started because the OP couldn't find this thread for some reason. Then it evolved into the "do not discuss the books" version.

This is correct.

 

[Sabertooth]

When is the next book slated to come out? I tried looking at his mess of a blog over there but couldn't find anything.