HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (3 Viewers)

[(HULK)]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

How do you know Tyrion doesn't have Targ blood?And Tyrion dreams of dragons.

And who are the 3 characters who all had their mother die while they were born? Jon, Dany and Tyrion.

plus Dani's twin bro

 

[dancer]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

How do you know Tyrion doesn't have Targ blood?And Tyrion dreams of dragons.

And who are the 3 characters who all had their mother die while they were born? Jon, Dany and Tyrion.

plus Dani's twin bro

wat?

 

[Gr00vus]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

How do you know Tyrion doesn't have Targ blood?And Tyrion dreams of dragons.

And who are the 3 characters who all had their mother die while they were born? Jon, Dany and Tyrion.

plus Dani's twin bro

wat?

Viserys - the guy Drogo gave "a golden crown" to before it had time to cool off.

 

[dancer]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

How do you know Tyrion doesn't have Targ blood?And Tyrion dreams of dragons.

And who are the 3 characters who all had their mother die while they were born? Jon, Dany and Tyrion.

plus Dani's twin bro

wat?

Viserys - the guy Drogo gave "a golden crown" to before it had time to cool off.

they are not twins, he was way older than her - 9 year difference

 

[Gr00vus]

Viserys - the guy Drogo gave "a golden crown" to before it had time to cool off.

they are not twins, he was way older than her - 9 year difference

Correct. I figured that's who he meant though.

 

[flysack]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.

I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

Tyrion could be a Targ, couldn't he? The whole Crazy Aegon + Tywin's wife + rape theory?

Mind blown. Never heard it. Explain, please.

ETA: though I recall Tywin saying "since I can't prove you aren't mine..." as if there was doubt.

 

[flysack]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.

I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

How do you know Tyrion doesn't have Targ blood?And Tyrion dreams of dragons.

And who are the 3 characters who all had their mother die while they were born? Jon, Dany and Tyrion.

Holy crap, I never saw that either. It was right there in front of my face....

Ok, it's a link. But why is it significant? Or is that something we're waiting for?

 

[flysack]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

Aegon is a fake dragon, it is known

Suspected, but not known.

 

[Barry]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

Martin's reputation as a merciless killer of important characters is greatly exaggerated, if you ask me.

Ned Stark

Robb Stark

Tywin Lannister

Joffrey Baratheon

Robert Baratheon

Renly Baratheon

Balon Greyjoy

Viserys Targaryaen

Khal Drogo

These are just the dead men who were(or could have been) a king at one point in the story. I'd say Martin's rep as a ruthless killer is quite intact.

-Catelyn comes back as a stupid spirit of vengeance.

disagree. the way she came back and her actions since have been awesome.

adding to the Tyrion is a Targ speculation. he likes his bacon burnt around the edges.

 

[Andrew74]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

Martin's reputation as a merciless killer of important characters is greatly exaggerated, if you ask me.

Ned Stark

Robb Stark

Tywin Lannister

Joffrey Baratheon

Robert Baratheon

Renly Baratheon

Balon Greyjoy

Viserys Targaryaen

Khal Drogo

These are just the dead men who were(or could have been) a king at one point in the story. I'd say Martin's rep as a ruthless killer is quite intact.

My issue is that he's spent the past two books toying with and undermining the idea of death in the saga, without killing a single major character in them. Calling him a killer after A Storm of Swords is logical, but two books later, I certainly wouldn't say that his reputation is intact.

Considering that Jon is most certainly coming back, Quentyn's death was probably the "biggest" of the past two books, and my reaction was more "well, that was a ####### waste of book space" than "OMG SHOCK". Other than relatively minor character deaths, let's see:

-The Mountain has supposedly become Gregorstein. Coming back in a different from.

-The Hound became a gravedigger. Fake death.

-Catelyn comes back as a stupid spirit of vengeance.

-Beric Dondarrion is Resurrection Man.

-Davos' death was obviously fake.

-We know Stannis isn't dead, despite Ramsay's letter.

-Brienne wasn't actually hanged, despite the tease.

-Tyrion survived a handful of "is-he-dead-oh-wait-no" chapter-ending cliffhangers.

-Theon was captured, rather than killed.

-Mance Rayder came back, since they burned Rattleshirt instead.

-Asha with a totally unbelievable chapter cliffhanger.

-"Look how edgy I am killing Jon! Nah, not really."

GRRM has said that he tries to avoid typical fantasy tropes like characters coming back to life, but he's not helping his case lately.

Kinda ironic he rips Tolkien for bringing Gandalf back.

 

[(HULK)]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

Aegon is a fake dragon, it is known

Suspected, but not known.

you know nothing gnatberries

 

[(HULK)]

Doh, thought they were twins. It's been a decade plus since I read the first book

 

[shuke]

I've forgotten - did Dontos give Sansa a necklace at this point in the books? Or do you think this necklace in the show ends up being a stand in for the poison veil?

He never gave her a necklace - only a hairnet that she had to wear at the wedding if she wanted to go home. It is the substitute for the hairnet - especially since the stones looked like amethyst.

Iirc, the gems in the episode last night were blue, and as someone mentioned, Daario gave Dany a blue flower last night and explained to her it was poisonous.

Oye.

The blue rose was the "dusk rose" and used to make a healing tea.

The red flower, forget its name, was poisonous.

More specifically, he said the blue rose cures fever.

Let's tie this to all the Lyanna discussion in this thread currently...

• Lyanna's favorite flower was blue rose
• Rhaegar gave her a crown of blue roses at Harrenhal to start the whole "relationship"
• Dany saw a vision in HotU of a blue rose growing in the wall of ice (Jon at wall?)
• Lyanna's crypt has a garland of blue roses
• Lyanna was surrounded by roses as she lay dying in ToJ - someone's attempt to cure her of the fever she died from?

How does anyone remember this stuff?

 

[Instinctive]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.

I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

Tyrion could be a Targ, couldn't he? The whole Crazy Aegon + Tywin's wife + rape theory?

Mind blown. Never heard it. Explain, please.

ETA: though I recall Tywin saying "since I can't prove you aren't mine..." as if there was doubt.

I think this is a solid summary of the theory:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/53017-tyrion-as-a-targaryen/

 

[Psychopav]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

Martin's reputation as a merciless killer of important characters is greatly exaggerated, if you ask me.

Ned Stark

Robb Stark

Tywin Lannister

Joffrey Baratheon

Robert Baratheon

Renly Baratheon

Balon Greyjoy

Viserys Targaryaen

Khal Drogo

These are just the dead men who were(or could have been) a king at one point in the story. I'd say Martin's rep as a ruthless killer is quite intact.

My issue is that he's spent the past two books toying with and undermining the idea of death in the saga, without killing a single major character in them. Calling him a killer after A Storm of Swords is logical, but two books later, I certainly wouldn't say that his reputation is intact.

Considering that Jon is most certainly coming back, Quentyn's death was probably the "biggest" of the past two books, and my reaction was more "well, that was a ####### waste of book space" than "OMG SHOCK". Other than relatively minor character deaths, let's see:

-The Mountain has supposedly become Gregorstein. Coming back in a different from.

-The Hound became a gravedigger. Fake death.

-Catelyn comes back as a stupid spirit of vengeance.

-Beric Dondarrion is Resurrection Man.

-Davos' death was obviously fake.

-We know Stannis isn't dead, despite Ramsay's letter.

-Brienne wasn't actually hanged, despite the tease.

-Tyrion survived a handful of "is-he-dead-oh-wait-no" chapter-ending cliffhangers.

-Theon was captured, rather than killed.

-Mance Rayder came back, since they burned Rattleshirt instead.

-Asha with a totally unbelievable chapter cliffhanger.

-"Look how edgy I am killing Jon! Nah, not really."

GRRM has said that he tries to avoid typical fantasy tropes like characters coming back to life, but he's not helping his case lately.

Kinda ironic he rips Tolkien for bringing Gandalf back.

Does he really? Not cool, GRRM, not cool.

 

[Daywalker]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

Maybe he goes the opposite way of fire resurrection and ends up as a pseudo Other, like Cold Hands? Maybe that fits with the whole blue flower growing out of The Wall vision.

I don't think he leaves the main narrative, one way or another.

The real head scratcher is who the 3rd dragon head is - I know Martin has lead us down a road with "young Griff" but I'm having trouble buying it.

I always assumed Jon is the ultimate hero of the series. The outcast who is actually of royal blood vindicating his "*******" self.

I don't want to be surprised just for the sake of it.

I want to see Arya become a badass assassin. I want to see Jon, Daenyers and Tyrion riding the dragons. Also need to see Bran play a crucial role.

So much foundation has been layed over many years. I want to see it realized and all these characters come together. That's plenty.

 

[Daywalker]

I'd like to see a scene involving Arya, Bran, Jamie and Cersei.

Arya duels, now a lethal left-handed swordsman, Jaime and sticks him. Cersei plunges at her with her dagger and right before plunging it into Arya, Bran takes control of Cersei and has her gut herself.

 

[flysack]

I can't think of a single person who thinks that Jon is actually dead.

You guys are forgetting that this is Martin. Which probably means Jon is dead.

If I had to bet on three characters that will live until the end, it's Jon, Arya, and Bran.Dany I'm less certain about. I could see her dying at the end of the last book in some crazy dramatic self-sacrifice for the betterment of Westeros.

I sort of consider Bran dead already. I mean, he is just going to merge with a tree.

a theory I've had about Bran is, what if he is the 3rd dragon? Not from Targ blood, but cuz he might be the most powerful warg to ever possibly exist. He's always had those flying dreams. What if that's just he seeing his future warging one of the dragons. Someone in the books mentioned that its impossible to warg a dragon. But if anyone can do it, it would Bran... Just saying

As for the 3 dragons, we can try tying that to the flowers from this episode as well - the blue representing Jon, the white Dany, the red Tyrion?

Tyrion riding a dragon? The thought of Dinkage riding a CGI lizard cracks me up.I'm pretty sure you need Targaryen blood to ride one. I bet even that stupid horn the Iron Men found won't do the trick completely. But sniff of Targaryen blood seems to chill them out. Which means -

Jon

Dany

Aegon

Aegon is a fake dragon, it is known

Suspected, but not known.

you know nothing gnatberries

 

[flysack]

I've forgotten - did Dontos give Sansa a necklace at this point in the books? Or do you think this necklace in the show ends up being a stand in for the poison veil?

He never gave her a necklace - only a hairnet that she had to wear at the wedding if she wanted to go home. It is the substitute for the hairnet - especially since the stones looked like amethyst.

Iirc, the gems in the episode last night were blue, and as someone mentioned, Daario gave Dany a blue flower last night and explained to her it was poisonous.

Oye.The blue rose was the "dusk rose" and used to make a healing tea.

The red flower, forget its name, was poisonous.

More specifically, he said the blue rose cures fever.

Let's tie this to all the Lyanna discussion in this thread currently...

• Lyanna's favorite flower was blue rose
• Rhaegar gave her a crown of blue roses at Harrenhal to start the whole "relationship"
• Dany saw a vision in HotU of a blue rose growing in the wall of ice (Jon at wall?)
• Lyanna's crypt has a garland of blue roses
• Lyanna was surrounded by roses as she lay dying in ToJ - someone's attempt to cure her of the fever she died from?

How does anyone remember this stuff?

There's a GOT wiki out there with all the Lyanna stuff summed up nicely.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

There's also a story of Bael (Bael...Abel...hmmm) the Bard who steals a Stark daughter and leaves a blue rose in her place. Then she returns with his child and kills herself when the Starks kill Abel. Or something like that. I keep meaning to go back and find that tale again, but haven't.

 

[Swing 51]

I've always thought Snow will figure in to the endgame as he is A Song of Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targ).

 

[Mjolnirs]

I don't know if this is a duplicate post in this thread, but it's good enough for it.

Honest Trailers - Game of Thrones

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Saying the mountain killed Elia?

Whats the question?

Never mind. I was thinking about lyanna.

Was Oberyn into dudes in the book?

they implied he was into all sorts of stuff.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If all this Rhaegar speculation has merit, Jon can't be dead, right? Seems like he would be too important even for Martin to kill off in that event.

I think that is what most people are hoping. That said, we don't know if Jon is going to come back as Jon, or as permanent warg in Ghost (like Varamyr), or if he takes over someone else's body (like Bran does to Hodor).

The prologue chapter, that discusses warging into another human, seemed to set this up. Should be interesting to see how they play it. I hope it isn't too cheesy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I feel bad for hating on Sansa early on now.

 

[Brady Marino]

I feel bad for hating on Sansa early on now.

You were within your right to. I hated her until she started becoming more sympathetic instead of snobby. She's also simply grown as an actress, IMO. She's far less wooden now than when she started.

 

[flysack]

I feel bad for hating on Sansa early on now.

You were within your right to. I hated her until she started becoming more sympathetic instead of snobby. She's also simply grown as an actress, IMO. She's far less wooden now than when she started.

I think Martin wanted you to hate her early on. She was basically Barbie playing Princess until Barbie got smacked upside the face with a whole lot of Joffery.

ETA: one of the best things Martin did as a writer is not to deconstruct/ridicule the fairy tale princess myth, but to do so while creating compassion and sympathy for the very thing he destroyed. If you don't feel awful for Sansa being forced to look at her father's head on the wall, there's something wrong with you. That girl goes through hell.

 

[Gr00vus]

I feel bad for hating on Sansa early on now.

You were within your right to. I hated her until she started becoming more sympathetic instead of snobby. She's also simply grown as an actress, IMO. She's far less wooden now than when she started.

I think Martin wanted you to hate her early on. She was basically Barbie playing Princess until Barbie got smacked upside the face with a whole lot of Joffery.

ETA: one of the best things Martin did as a writer is not to deconstruct/ridicule the fairy tale princess myth, but to do so while creating compassion and sympathy for the very thing he destroyed. If you don't feel awful for Sansa being forced to look at her father's head on the wall, there's something wrong with you. That girl goes through hell.

And I think Sophie Turner has actually done a good job of depicting Sansa throughout. From the wooden caricature Sansa was to the traumatized and powerless character Sansa now is (and the schemer she may become?).

 

[Swing 51]

Peter Dinklage AMA at Redditt:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/22sber/i_am_peter_dinklage_you_probably_know_me_as/

 

[Sabertooth]

I like how the Episode Trailer shows the shadow of a dragon passing over the red keep. We are literally years (in Earth years mind you) from that happening in the books.

 

[Gr00vus]

I like how the Episode Trailer shows the shadow of a dragon passing over the red keep. We are literally years (in Earth years mind you) from that happening in the books.

I assumed that was Meereen.

 

[Sabertooth]

Maybe. I assumed it was the red keep but could have been wrong.

 

[Gr00vus]

Maybe. I assumed it was the red keep but could have been wrong.

Actually, watching the preview again, I think you're right.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Why didn't we like the Arya scene?

Apparently there are lady Stoneheart subway posters. Pretty big spoiler by HBO.

I ride two subways twice a day with a long transfer in between so I've been looking for these posters since I read this. I don't think this is true. The only thing I can think of is the posters for Salem have been mistaken by someone.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Why didn't we like the Arya scene?

Apparently there are lady Stoneheart subway posters. Pretty big spoiler by HBO.

I ride two subways twice a day with a long transfer in between so I've been looking for these posters since I read this. I don't think this is true. The only thing I can think of is the posters for Salem have been mistaken by someone.

My friend posted a lady Stoneheart poster/picture on Facebook. I Messaged him that he should take it down because it was really a pretty big spoiler. His reply was that it was on subway posters by HBO.

 

[shuke]

Why didn't we like the Arya scene?

Apparently there are lady Stoneheart subway posters. Pretty big spoiler by HBO.

I ride two subways twice a day with a long transfer in between so I've been looking for these posters since I read this. I don't think this is true. The only thing I can think of is the posters for Salem have been mistaken by someone.

My friend posted a lady Stoneheart poster/picture on Facebook. I Messaged him that he should take it down because it was really a pretty big spoiler. His reply was that it was on subway posters by HBO.

He's full of ####.

 

[The Duff Man]

I remember speculation that Episode 2 was the one we were all waiting for.

Seems rushed considering where they got to in 1. They mentioned the wedding being a fortnight away.

Hoping it is tonight....

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I remember speculation that Episode 2 was the one we were all waiting for.

Seems rushed considering where they got to in 1. They mentioned the wedding being a fortnight away.

Hoping it is tonight....

I'm fairly certain its tonight. Which is epic for tv only people. I can't wait for the reaction.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I remember speculation that Episode 2 was the one we were all waiting for.

Seems rushed considering where they got to in 1. They mentioned the wedding being a fortnight away.

Hoping it is tonight....

I'm fairly certain its tonight. Which is epic for tv only people. I can't wait for the reaction.

I could see tonight ending as he just drinks the purple drank, the aftermath next week

 

[Sinn Fein]

Wedding is definitely tonight - not sure if the reception will be tonight, or next episode

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think GRRM wrote tonight's episode. It's going down.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Do you think Tyrion and Arya end up on the same boat somehow episode 10?

 

[Mister Martie]

I think GRRM wrote tonight's episode. It's going down.

Yeah it is.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think GRRM wrote tonight's episode. It's going down.

Yeah it is.

I think people will be happy but disappointed. I think most want joffrey to have a much more brutal death.

 

[strykerpks]

LOL Spoiler

 

[Swing 51]

I wish Martin wrote every episode -

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think GRRM wrote tonight's episode. It's going down.

Yeah it is.

I think people will be happy but disappointed. I think most want joffrey to have a much more brutal death.

very well done

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Man, great but...

I've gotten to the point where the second watch, the entire season, is so much more enjoyable because the first go around I can't stop thinking about how the changes they've made will or won't change things down the road. So many little things.

I thought the "newish" Bolton scene, father and son, was especially well done.

 

[Mister Martie]

One of the best episodes, IMO. Great all the way through.

 

[bonesman]

I wonder if they would've had Bron take over for Illyn Payne even if that actor didn't pass away. Much better with some back and forth dialog there... and between such cocky SOBs too.