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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (3 Viewers)

I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle anywhere near the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.

 
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I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle any wherenear the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.
2nd this..big fan of his stuff. Have read them all.

Edit: Also like the Patrick Rothfuss KingKiller series...awaiting the 3rd book release.

 
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I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle any wherenear the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.
2nd this..big fan of his stuff. Have read them all.

Edit: Also like the Patrick Rothfuss KingKiller series...awaiting the 3rd book release.
I didn't really like Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy too many plotholes distracted me from the actual story.

As far as recommendations, my top series are:

1) Martin - Song of Ice and Fire

2) Rothfuss - Kingkiller Chronicles

3) Butcher - Dresden Files (with the caveat that the first two books - which he wrote in a class - are only OK, the 3rd book on is very good)

4) Lynch - Lies of Locke Lamora

 
Kit Harington hinted that he would be returning to Game Of Thrones in some capacity last week, despite the fact his character was killed off in the season five finale.

And on Friday the 28-year-old actor, who plays Jon Snow in the hit HBO series, was spotted on set in Belfast looking very much alive.

Having ditched his blacks, the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, was standing tall in Stark clothes with his sword on his hip as they filmed on the remote Northern Ireland hilltop.
:popcorn:
You do realize this probably means a flashback.
I think he's really back, not just in flashback form. Every interview with the show creators have used the language "Jon Snow is definitely dead" in an attempt to keep people from speculating, but Snow being dead is completely irrelevant for his potential return. There is this thing called the lord of lights who can supposedly do this thing called resurrection and there just happens to be a priestess of said lord nearby who just lost her boy toy and has expressed interest in snow before.

 
Kit Harington hinted that he would be returning to Game Of Thrones in some capacity last week, despite the fact his character was killed off in the season five finale.

And on Friday the 28-year-old actor, who plays Jon Snow in the hit HBO series, was spotted on set in Belfast looking very much alive.

Having ditched his blacks, the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, was standing tall in Stark clothes with his sword on his hip as they filmed on the remote Northern Ireland hilltop.
:popcorn:
You do realize this probably means a flashback.
I think he's really back, not just in flashback form. Every interview with the show creators have used the language "Jon Snow is definitely dead" in an attempt to keep people from speculating, but Snow being dead is completely irrelevant for his potential return. There is this thing called the lord of lights who can supposedly do this thing called resurrection and there just happens to be a priestess of said lord nearby who just lost her boy toy and has expressed interest in snow before.
Jon Snow IS dead.

Jon Stark lives.

 
Kit Harington hinted that he would be returning to Game Of Thrones in some capacity last week, despite the fact his character was killed off in the season five finale.

And on Friday the 28-year-old actor, who plays Jon Snow in the hit HBO series, was spotted on set in Belfast looking very much alive.

Having ditched his blacks, the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, was standing tall in Stark clothes with his sword on his hip as they filmed on the remote Northern Ireland hilltop.
:popcorn:
You do realize this probably means a flashback.
I think he's really back, not just in flashback form. Every interview with the show creators have used the language "Jon Snow is definitely dead" in an attempt to keep people from speculating, but Snow being dead is completely irrelevant for his potential return. There is this thing called the lord of lights who can supposedly do this thing called resurrection and there just happens to be a priestess of said lord nearby who just lost her boy toy and has expressed interest in snow before.
Jon Snow IS dead.

Jon Stark "The Prince That Was Promised" Targaryan-Stark lives.
 
I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle any wherenear the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.
2nd this..big fan of his stuff. Have read them all.

Edit: Also like the Patrick Rothfuss KingKiller series...awaiting the 3rd book release.
I didn't really like Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy too many plotholes distracted me from the actual story.

As far as recommendations, my top series are:

1) Martin - Song of Ice and Fire

2) Rothfuss - Kingkiller Chronicles

3) Butcher - Dresden Files (with the caveat that the first two books - which he wrote in a class - are only OK, the 3rd book on is very good)

4) Lynch - Lies of Locke Lamora
Have you read Butcher's Alera series?

 
Psychopav said:
I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle any wherenear the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.
2nd this..big fan of his stuff. Have read them all.

Edit: Also like the Patrick Rothfuss KingKiller series...awaiting the 3rd book release.
I didn't really like Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy too many plotholes distracted me from the actual story.

As far as recommendations, my top series are:

1) Martin - Song of Ice and Fire

2) Rothfuss - Kingkiller Chronicles

3) Butcher - Dresden Files (with the caveat that the first two books - which he wrote in a class - are only OK, the 3rd book on is very good)

4) Lynch - Lies of Locke Lamora
Have you read Butcher's Alera series?
Yes, didn't particularly like it and pretty much tell people there is much better stuff out there.

 
Kit Harington’s forecast seems to call for more Jon Snow

The once and apparently future “Game of Thrones” star finally broke his silence about whether or not his character is returning to the HBO fantasy series for the upcoming season...despite being (seemingly) dead at the end of last season’s finale.

“The important thing is that I now know exactly how long I am still under contract … Let’s just say that ‘Game of Thrones’ will remain a part of my life for a while, I’ll probably be in my thirties when it’s over,” the 28-year-old Harington told the Belgian outlet Humo, according to a translation by Variety.
 
I have tried to read other series in an attempt to fill my GoT fix, and I can't stand anything else I have tried in the genre either,
I've really enjoyed all of Joe Abercrombie's books so far (have 1 left to read). I think I like him better than Martin as a writer, though he does't attempt to juggle any wherenear the same volume of characters and doesn't go as deep with the schemes, twists, sub plots, tricks, etc.
2nd this..big fan of his stuff. Have read them all.

Edit: Also like the Patrick Rothfuss KingKiller series...awaiting the 3rd book release.
I didn't really like Abercrombie's First Law Trilogy too many plotholes distracted me from the actual story.

As far as recommendations, my top series are:

1) Martin - Song of Ice and Fire

2) Rothfuss - Kingkiller Chronicles

3) Butcher - Dresden Files (with the caveat that the first two books - which he wrote in a class - are only OK, the 3rd book on is very good)

4) Lynch - Lies of Locke Lamora
Have you read Butcher's Alera series?
Yes, didn't particularly like it and pretty much tell people there is much better stuff out there.
Interesting. I very much enjoyed the Alera series but feel exactly the same way about Dresden (although admittedly have not read a ton of them, did read past Book 3).

 
So I think after the song of ice and fire has been sung, the majority of our heroes will be dead, including Jon, Dany, the third rider, and the dragons. I think Jaime ends up sitting the iron throne.

 
finally finished all the books, yay me!

are there any influential characters from the books that are not in the show that we can assume won't have a significant role in the end game? i.e. Theon's uncles, Aegon, the group in Oldtown, etc. Martin seems to spend a lot of time on the Ironborn for them to be inconsequential.

and why did he have to kill off Barristan in the show? he's one of my favorite characters in the book.

 
Rereading a feast for crows now and am about 200 pages in. I actually really enjoy it. I think there's a lot to learn about the story. The iron born are going to play a bigger role in the final acts. I also think that there is more to the Tyrells. Grrm has said as much by scolding the show runners for eliminating the knight of flowers' brothers.

 
Ah, this is the thread I've been searching for this morning.

Speculation/spoilers on the TV show and books - you have been warned that the following contains possible spoilers:

http://io9.com/every...o-fa-1739264164
read that yesterday, pretty interesting stuff. although I think bringing Lady SH into the show at this point would be kinda cheesy.
Man, they have a lot packed into this season. Bran, Snow, Riverrun/Stoneheart, Kingsmoot, Khalasar, Flashback/Lyanna, Dorne?

 
Ah, this is the thread I've been searching for this morning.

Speculation/spoilers on the TV show and books - you have been warned that the following contains possible spoilers:

http://io9.com/every...o-fa-1739264164
read that yesterday, pretty interesting stuff. although I think bringing Lady SH into the show at this point would be kinda cheesy.
Man, they have a lot packed into this season. Bran, Snow, Riverrun/Stoneheart, Kingsmoot, Khalasar, Flashback/Lyanna, Dorne?
I would be okay with them dropping the Squid and Lady SH storylines, and focus on stuff people care about.

 
Ah, this is the thread I've been searching for this morning.

Speculation/spoilers on the TV show and books - you have been warned that the following contains possible spoilers:

http://io9.com/every...o-fa-1739264164
read that yesterday, pretty interesting stuff. although I think bringing Lady SH into the show at this point would be kinda cheesy.
Man, they have a lot packed into this season. Bran, Snow, Riverrun/Stoneheart, Kingsmoot, Khalasar, Flashback/Lyanna, Dorne?
I would be okay with them dropping the Squid and Lady SH storylines, and focus on stuff people care about.
People probably would care quite a bit about Lady SH, at least at first.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.
Despite the meandering in the middle books, I still prefer the WoT series to this one. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them both, and they are both good. I like the WoT characters/story better though.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.
Despite the meandering in the middle books, I still prefer the WoT series to this one. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them both, and they are both good. I like the WoT characters/story better though.
WowI can't imagine there are too many people that share your opinion.

WoT had a good start but ran off the rails in flurry of hair tugging. I quit well before that travesty of a series ended.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.
:goodposting: :tugsbraid:

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.
Despite the meandering in the middle books, I still prefer the WoT series to this one. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them both, and they are both good. I like the WoT characters/story better though.
WowI can't imagine there are too many people that share your opinion.

WoT had a good start but ran off the rails in flurry of hair tugging. I quit well before that travesty of a series ended.
Lol, I should have read ahead.

 
Almost finished with my Crows re-read. This book is actually quite good. I think all the stink was due to the wait and missing characters. I can see why people would be angry, I certainly would have been, but the book is pretty quality and gives more color to the stories.
The problem with Crows is that it suffers in comparison to the previous 3 books. It tends to meander a bit. It's still better than any of the wheel of time books for instance. But it's not as good as the 1st three of this series.
I just finished the 4th Wheel of Time book. I might just read a synopsis and be done with it.
Having forced myself to finish the series, I recommend this course of action.
:goodposting: :tugsbraid:
I don't know what this means. I'll have to ask Rand, he's always been so good with women.

 
Blocked at work, but I am sure it was drivel. My own opinion is that he is lazy, has enough money, the series is not fresh to him anymore, and he has no idea where it is going so he is just going to leave it up to the show to finish the series.
It's clear from the interview blurb that he's not particularly motivated to finish writing the series.

 
Want to *sigh* for real? GRRMs words - http://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html

Last Year (Winds of Winter)

Jan. 2nd, 2016 at 12:24 AM
writing
The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for.

Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent much of the day recreating (in Cliff's Note summaries) my own personal "best of times" from the previous year, all the wonderful things that went down for me in 2015, the awards and the publications and the bestseller lists, the cons and the parties, the travel, all the exciting new projects underway at HBO and right here down the street in Santa Fe. But inevitably that brings me to my own personal "worst of times," and that is considerably less fun to blog about, so do forgive my reluctance to do so.

You wanted an update. Here's the update. You won't like it.

THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

But the book's not done.

Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.

IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ALL FIVE SEASONS AND READ ALL FIVE BOOKS, STOP HERE!

Just consider. Mago, Irri, Rakharo, Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Pyat Pree, Pyp, Grenn, Ser Barristan Selmy, Queen Selyse, Princess Shireen, Princess Myrcella, Mance Rayder, and King Stannis are all dead in the show, alive in the books. Some of them will die in the books as well, yes... but not all of them, and some may die at different times in different ways. Balon Greyjoy, on the flip side, is dead in the books, alive on the show. His brothers Euron Crow's Eye and Victarion have not yet been introduced (will they appear? I ain't saying). Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, and many more have never been part of the show, yet remain characters in the books. Several are viewpoint characters, and even those who are not may have significant roles in the story to come in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING.

GAME OF THRONES is the most popular television series in the world right now. The most pirated as well. It just won a record number of Emmy Awards, including the ultimate prize, for the best drama on television. It's an incredible production with an incredible cast and crew.

WINDS OF WINTER should be pretty good too, when it comes out. As good as I can make it, anyway.

Which is a long way of saying, "How may children did Scarlett O'Hara have?"

Enjoy the show. Enjoy the books.

Meanwhile, I'll keep writing. Chapter at a time. Page at a time. Word at a time. That's all I know how to do.

((And yes, this is my final Cliff's Note for the day. You can all go to bed now)).
 
Well, ####.

I wonder how many of the book readers who swore they wouldn't let the upcoming season spoil the book will be able to keep their word after this news. 'Cause this book ain't even close to being done and that TV show is hard to avoid in the pop culture landscape.

 
The worst part is I can now see him changing up parts of the book, so that the books are different from the show.

HBO is loving this turn of events. Publisher, not so much...

 
I thought he was supposedly taking the whole summer and fall off from "travel" so he could concentrate on the book. I really feel like he will never finish the series. It's one thing after another it appears.

 
Want to *sigh* for real? GRRMs words - http://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html
That's actually good news IMO. The fact that as late as October he thought it was remotely possible the book would be done in time to beat Season Six means there's a ton written. Of course I'd prefer (by a mile) that he take his time and do the same rewrites he did for the first five books.

Anyhow... sounds pretty likely we'll get a publication date later this year (even if the actual date is 2017). Will take it.

 
wdcrob said:
strykerpks said:
Want to *sigh* for real? GRRMs words - http://grrm.livejournal.com/465247.html
That's actually good news IMO. The fact that as late as October he thought it was remotely possible the book would be done in time to beat Season Six means there's a ton written. Of course I'd prefer (by a mile) that he take his time and do the same rewrites he did for the first five books.

Anyhow... sounds pretty likely we'll get a publication date later this year (even if the actual date is 2017). Will take it.
I'm not sure which is the bigger delusion GRRM thinking he'd finish last year or you believing he's at all close to being done at all.

I think people should brace themselves that he's never going to finish.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Well, ####.

I wonder how many of the book readers who swore they wouldn't let the upcoming season spoil the book will be able to keep their word after this news. 'Cause this book ain't even close to being done and that TV show is hard to avoid in the pop culture landscape.
If there was a publish date, and it was relatively close to the airing of the season 6, I may have waited and read the book first, leaving the episodes on my DVR until I finished. But with this news, I'll just watch as they air, and read the book when it comes out.

In general, I tend to prefer books, both for ASOIAF as well as most anything else. But in many cases I've discovered a book by watching the movie or tv show first, then going back and reading the book, and I'll treat this series the same way from here.

 

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