Help me create IDP scoring (1 Viewer)

[Bob Wiley]

Next year, I'd like to convert my league to IDP, but I'd like the offense to be just as important as the defense. So some teams could be strong on defense, while others strong on offense. Right now, Tom Brady is my league's high scorer and his season is probably not a good indicator, but I'd like my high scorers on defense to be comparable to my high scorers on offense. My offensive scoring is below:

Event Points

Number of Passing TDs 6 points each

Length of Passing TD 61-110 yards is 3 bonus points

Passing Yards .05 point for every 1 yard

Passing Yards 351 yards + is 5 bonus points

Pass Interceptions Thrown -3 points each

Passing 2 Pointers 2 points each

Number of Rushing TDs 6 points each

Length of Rushing TD 61-110 yards is 3 bonus points

Rushing Yards .1 point for every 1 yard

Rushing Yards 151 yards + is 5 bonus points

Rushing 2 Pointers 2 points each

Number of Receiving TDs 6 points each

Length of Receiving TD 61-110 yards is 3 bonus points

Receiving Yards .1 point for every 1 yard

Receiving Yards 151 yards + is 5 bonus points

Receptions 1 point each

Receiving 2 Pointers 2 points each

Length of Field Goal Made .1 point for every 1 yard

Length of Missed Field Goal Between 0-40 yards is -3 points

Extra Points 1 point each

Extra Points Missed -1 point each

Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) -3 points each

 

[Musesboy]

I agree with Coolinthepocket about Brady's year being exceptional and I would not try to match his points with those of any IDP.

One of my leagues has the following scoring and starting options. It seems to work well and opens up all kinds of possible strategies. LBs score lower here than in most leagues, but you could tweak that if you prefer.

If you want to see how the positions compare, here's a link to the league...

http://football9.myfantasyleague.com/2007/...=30580&O=08

Scoring

QB:

.04 points per yard passed

.1 points per yard rushed for or received.

.1 points per completion.

6 points per touchdown passed, caught, or run for.

2 points per 2 point conversion passed, caught, or run for.

-3 points per interception thrown or fumble lost.

RB:

.1 points per yard rushed or caught for.

.04 points per yard passed.

.5 points per reception.

2 points per 2 point conversion passed, caught, or run for.

6 points per touchdown passed, caught, or run for.

-3 points per interception thrown or fumble lost.

WR:

.1 points per yard rushed or caught for.

.04 points per yard passed for.

1 point per reception.

6 points per touchdown passed, caught, or run for.

2 points per 2 point conversion passed, caught, or run for.

-3 points per interception thrown or fumble lost.

TE:

.1 points per yard rushed or caught for.

.04 points per yard passed.

2 points per reception.

6 points per touchdown passed, caught, or run for.

2 points per 2 point conversion passed, caught, or run for.

-3 points per interception thrown or fumble lost.

Milestone scoring (applies to all positions listed above):

6 points per 300 yards passed for.

6 points per 100 yards rushed for.

6 points per 100 yards caught for.

PK:

1 point per successful PAT.

-3 points per missed PAT.

3 points per successful field goal (17-35 yards)

-3 points per missed field goal (17-35 yards)

4 points per successful field goal (36-49 yards)

-1 point per missed field goal (36-49 yards)

6 points per successful field goal (50+ yards)

DL:

6 points per touchdown.

6 points per safety.

6 points per blocked punt/kick (includes PAT tries).

4 points per sack (2 points per half sack).

2 points per solo tackle.

1 point per assist.

3 points per pass defensed.

2 points per fumble caused.

3 points per fumble recovered or interception caught.

LB:

6 points per touchdown.

6 points per safety.

6 points per blocked punt/kick (includes PAT tries).

3 points per sack (1.5 points per half sack).

1 point per solo tackle.

.5 points per assist.

2 points per pass defensed.

2 points per fumble caused.

3 points per fumble recovered or interception caught.

DB:

6 points per touchdown.

6 points per safety.

6 points per blocked punt/kick (includes PAT tries).

5 points per sack (2.5 points per half sack).

2 points per tackle.

1 point per assist.

1 point per pass defensed.

3 points per fumble caused.

3 points per fumble recovered or interception caused.

Defensive Milestone Scoring (applies to all defensive players):

6 points per 10 solo tackles.

6 points per 2 sacks.

Special teams scoring*:

10 points per touchdown returned.

.05 points per return yard.

*special teams scoring applies to players who return punts or kicks. Points will be awarded to the team which owns that individual player, providing that team is starting the player at his regular position.

Teams may choose one of the following options for their offense:

1. Pro-set: One QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE.

2. Wishbone: One QB, 3 RB, 2 TE.

3. Spread offense: One QB, 1 RB, 4 WR.

4. West coast: One QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE.

Teams may choose one of the following options for their defense:

1. 43 Defense: 4 DL, 3 LB, 4 DB.

2. 34 Defense: 3 DL, 4 LB, 4 DB.

3. Nickel: 3 DL, 3 LB, 5 DB.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Here's a topic from our FAQ that may help.

Good luck with the conversion. IDP leagues are the best way to play fantasy football.

 

[Bob Wiley]

Here's a topic from our FAQ that may help.

Good luck with the conversion. IDP leagues are the best way to play fantasy football.

Alright, I'm really trying to finalize this, but I'm having trouble. Not including kicker, I have nine positions that I would like to be relatively equal: QB, RB, WR, TE, DE, DT, LB, CB, S. I put my scoring into MFL and pulled a report for the top 300 players using the new scoring system. I'd like the outcome of the top 300 players to be equal: about 33 players from each position in the top 300. Of the top 300, 123 are offense, 174 are defense, and 3 are kickers. No defensive players crack the top 10, with Patrick Willis coming closest at 11. There are 72 LBs in the top 300, which is way too many. And there's 49 CBs and 44 Safetys, also way too many. But there's only 7 DEs and 2 DTs. For the offense: 20 QBs, 38 RBs, 57 WRs, and 8 TEs.I need to find a way to balance this out. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to change my offensive scoring, because that's what we've been doing for years, but I need to find a way to tweak my defensive scoring. Here's the scoring:

ETA Link to the Scoring: http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=30342&O=09

ETA Link to top 300 Report: http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=30342&O=08

Rules for QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DT, DE, LB, CB, S (Edit) Event Range (Low-High) Points Test?

Number of Passing TDs 0-100 6 points each Test

Length of Passing TD 61-110 3 Test

Passing Yards -999-999 .05 point for every 1 Test

Passing Yards 351-999 5 Test

Pass Interceptions Thrown 0-100 -3 points each Test

Passing 2 Pointers 0-100 2 points each Test

Number of Rushing TDs 0-100 6 points each Test

Length of Rushing TD 61-110 3 Test

Rushing Yards -999-999 .1 point for every 1 Test

Rushing Yards 151-999 5 Test

Rushing 2 Pointers 0-100 2 points each Test

Number of Receiving TDs 0-100 6 points each Test

Length of Receiving TD 61-110 3 Test

Receiving Yards -999-999 .1 point for every 1 Test

Receiving Yards 151-999 5 Test

Receptions 0-999 1 point each Test

Receiving 2 Pointers 0-100 2 points each Test

Length of Field Goal Made 0-110 .1 point for every 1 Test

Length of Missed Field Goal 0-40 -3 Test

Extra Points 0-10 1 point each Test

Extra Points Missed 0-10 -1 point each Test

Punt Return Yards -50-999 1 point for every 10 Test

Kickoff Return Yards -50-999 1 point for every 10 Test

Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) 0-100 -3 points each Test

Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 0-100 5 points each Test

Forced Fumbles 0-100 2.5 points each Test

Length of Interception Return TD 61-110 3 Test

Interceptions Caught 0-100 5 points each Test

Interception Return Yards -999-999 .15 point for every 1 Test

Passes Defensed 0-99 2 points each Test

Blocked Field Goals 0-100 4 points each Test

Blocked Punts 0-100 3 points each Test

Blocked Extra Points 0-100 2 points each Test

Tackles 0-99 2 points each Test

Assists 0-99 1 point each Test

Sacked a QB 0-100 1.5 points each Test

 

[Jene Bramel]

ETA: Looks like you've continued to play around with the system since your last post, so some of this post may not be as relevant.

A few general points to consider:

1. It doesn't matter how many of each position are in the top 300, especially if you're only using one season's frame of reference. If you want to generate equal value for your starting slots, you just need to have a group benchmark starters at each position finish around each other in the year-end rankings. Some would use the last starter at each position, others would use a mid-range starter. For example, the QB10 should be about equal to a RB 14-16 in a 12 team league. Or the LB10 should be about equal to the WR10. That allows some room for the true stud seasons to separate themselves on top and it doesn't really matter how many players end up ranked in the depth range of the top 100. You're going to have more WRs in the top half of the second 150 (and more DBs and more DL) -- it's a function of how many are on the field for NFL teams than your system. Still, that's very difficult to do with a simple, every stat equal the same points for every position, so...

2. You're much more likely to get the distribution you're shooting for if you award different points for the same stat across each position. Variable PPR for the offensive positions. Increased tackle points for DL, increased PD points for DB, including sack yardage and INT return yardage, etc.

3. The system you posted is very tackle heavy. There's no hard science behind this, but you'll see the rankings have a good mix of big play guys and tackle guys (at DL and LB, but also DB) at ratios that make sacks about 3.5-4x a solo tackle. In your case, should you use the 2pt/solo number, you'll probably want to do something like 6pt/sack and 0.1pt per sack yard (usually about 6yd/sack on average) to get to a 3+ ratio.

4. If you want to get the LBs down, you'll have to bring their tackles back some. Many leagues shoot for a 1.5/solo number and you could then do 5/sack with or without yardage. You'll probably have to tweak that ratio until you get the top 100 distribution you like.

One way to do this is to consider the stat line of what you think a league average #1 starter would be at each position and play with your system until the numbers look as close to equal as you can get them without forcing it.

For example, work your system until a stat line of...

DL 45 solos, 15 assists, 9 sacks, 3 FF/FR, 0 INT, 2 PD

LB 93 solos, 27 assists, 2 sacks, 2 FF/FR, 1 INT, 4 PD

CB 62 solos, 11 assists, 1 sack, 1 FF/FR, 4 INT, 16 PD

S 77 solos, 18 assists, 1 sack, 2 FF/FR, 2 INT, 6 PD

...all fall within 25 points or so.

You'll probably want to include the offensive side as well.

Those lines are off the top of my head, I'd choose whatever benchmark starter you think should have equal value and look over the last three seasons of rankings to generate the "average" stat line and work with that.

 

[KellysHeroes]

what I call "super high scoring"

http://football27.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=62726&O=09

 

[Rozelle]

One thing you may want to look at is, making KR yardage 1 pt per 20 yards. It will give you a better balance with your PR yardage.

 

[KellysHeroes]

One thing you may want to look at is, making KR yardage 1 pt per 20 yards. It will give you a better balance with your PR yardage.

you talking about mine? I did this format last yr... it worked good. I orginally had the bonus set the same for Kick Returns and Punt Returns (.25 for every yd; after 100 yds) I learned after the first week last yr that Punt Returns Bonus need to be set at 50 yds.

 

[Rozelle]

One thing you may want to look at is, making KR yardage 1 pt per 20 yards. It will give you a better balance with your PR yardage.

you talking about mine? I did this format last yr... it worked good. I orginally had the bonus set the same for Kick Returns and Punt Returns (.25 for every yd; after 100 yds) I learned after the first week last yr that Punt Returns Bonus need to be set at 50 yds.

Not really sure, I thought it was bobg829's the scoring in #4 post.Punt Return Yards -50-999 1 point for every 10 Test

Kickoff Return Yards -50-999 1 point for every 10 Test