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-How about Lynch being 3 years younger? -Better Skills for Barber? how so?-Better health for Barber? (Seriously?)-How about Dallas drafting a RB in the first round is that not a negative?
I think A. Peterson will be better than all 3
FWIW- I think Lynch as well in the long run
Nice find.
Wrong place to get an unbiased view of Barber.
That's fine. Working hard is as rare as being fast, shifty, or explosive. However, I do think Barber is pretty shifty.
I actually happen to love watching Barber play. I think he is a good RB. His greatest attribute as already mentioned is being so determined that he breaks many tackles and is very hard to bring down. HoweverLynch is a better overall talent than Barber. He is a very gifted runner and one of the best young RB's in the league. There is only a handful of guys I would rather have dynasty wise than Lynch and Barber is not one of them.
You forgot the stat where he started against the Redskins and had 1 yard and no TD's. The whole point being, starter or back-up with certain roles doesn't always equate to what you think. Granted chances are better in certain situations, but we'll see what he (MBIII) really does when teams get to key on him.
he had a bad game. it happens. what do you mean by "when they key on him". just curious, cause i remember a lot of people were sayin JJ was softening up the defense for MBIII to come in and mop up. not true, imo. MBIII was not just coming in on passing downs. when they split series MBIII always did more with his. MBIII IS more talented than JJ, bottomline. doesn't matter if he's starting or not.
IMO if Lynch were in Dallas instead of Barber, Dallas doesn't draft Jones. The answer is Lynch, especially if "going forward" is supposed to imply beyond just this season. On top of that, Lynch gets drafted later (currently 2 spots in FBG dynasty ranking, 7 spots in FBG redraft ranking), so he is better value.
Particularly for TDs, past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. HTH.
Actually, past performance is the best reliable indictor of future performance.Since you seem to be in the mood to help, please break down your reliable indicators of future performance. This should be great.
Let me say that even as a Redskins fan, I really like they way MBIII runs. Effort is NEVER in questions with any attempt. The "key" line is in reference to teams preparing for him. He's not coming in on 3rd down, he's going to be playing on 1st & 2nd down on a consistent where teams will play many more 8 man fronts. Again, not 3rd down when the secondary is playing back or they are in the nickle. Not saying that was always the case with him, but it helps often as he was in there on 3rd down. MBIII is very good at short yardage, so he shouldn't be hampered for getting the yard or two that is needed in those situations. My example was to show what can happen to a player when a team has the time to focus on them as the featured back. Won't happen all the time, but being the starter doesn't always mean it's better.
And you're the right place to get an unbiased view of Barber, Mr. "I'm Felix Jones #1 fan"?
i should have read this a week ago....
I'm always in the mood to help.
On your bolded statement, do you have something that backs that up for TDs? Like some kind of analysis that shows that scoring a high number of TDs in the previous season(s) correlates to scoring a high number of TDs in future season(s)?
Elite? Really?LT, AP, Westbrook, SJax, MBIIII'd have to go with Barber both short term and long term. Short term being this year, long term being roughly 3 years out. Barber is simply in a better position and has already proven capable of posting elite numbers despite sharing carries. Both should be secure in their role for the next 3 years. After that, who knows.
Why did you ask this question if you are looking for reasons to not take Barber? Take Lynch and get over it.
On the MJD front, you have to take in consideration the presence of FTaylor...and his continuing to be healthy...which could be different this year with his injury history. I believe Taylor missed some time in 2006 that helped MJD be able to prove himself that season.I'm always in the mood to help.On your bolded statement, do you have something that backs that up for TDs? Like some kind of analysis that shows that scoring a high number of TDs in the previous season(s) correlates to scoring a high number of TDs in future season(s)?
IMO there are three things that immediately come to mind as strong contributors to TD scoring: talent, number of opportunities, and quality of opportunities.
IMO Barber is not one of the most talented RBs in the league. I'd say his talent is above average, but that's it.
Last year, Barber was #21 in rushing attempts and tied for #18 in touches, and that is in 16 games; other players below him probably had more opportunities per game. I expect him to be in the same neighborhood on touches this year.
On the positive side, he plays in a great offense, which helps the quality of his touches to be good (e.g., not much stacking of the box).
To a degree, this Barber discussion reminds me of the MJD hype last offseason. As a rookie, MJD had 15 TDs and accumulated almost 1400 yards on 212 touches; amazing performance per touch. Many people were eager to project him to improve on that in his second season. Instead, he had only 9 TDs and less than 1200 yards on an almost identical number of touches, as his performance per touch declined... despite the fact that the passing offense improved, which arguably could have opened things up for him a bit.
Um I think you missed the OP whereas I was in argument with guys from my league. I own Lynch and one of them owns Barber. I was saying Lynch is better going forward in dynasty. There was 7 of us on line at the time. 5 of them said they would rather have Barber vs 2 (including me) for Lynch. Therefore I wanted to start a thread to see what people thought.
what does this have to do with anything?
