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HERD's NFL Mock Draft - 2006 (1 Viewer)

I think the QB from Rutgers is going to be a star. He will probably be getting more attention closer to the draft. He isn't the traditional drop back guy like Lienart, which might be a plus.I like the RB from Memphis too, I think he may actually end up being the best back from this draft in years to come.

 
My :2cents: Every year people project the Broncos and Panthers to take a TE in the 1st round and every year they pass. Why do you think this will change?I think Eric Winston will be a high riser after all the evals are done. I think we will see several teams try to trade up and take OT this year.

 
Nice mock. I see the Volek trade, but are you assuming there is no Rivers trade? Or do you think it's not for a 1st round pick?
I don't know. I'm not sure that the Phillip Rivers bonanza is going to be as big a deal as people expect. He could get traded but I think what the Chargers will want and what people will give are two very different things. Look at players like Corey Dillon, Travis Henry, Mike McKenzie, etc. who get traded. Those guys had shown solid on field ability and could fetch very little. Unless someone that needs a QB thinks that Rivers, who they haven't seen in action for 24 months, is a better choice than someone available for their pick, no way does a trade happen. We'll see.[
Outside of Leinhart and possibly Young, what QBs do you think would be rated higher than Rivers? Throw in the salary benefits of Rivers and I would think there should be quite a bit of interest.
 
I think the QB from Rutgers is going to be a star. He will probably be getting more attention closer to the draft. He isn't the traditional drop back guy like Lienart, which might be a plus.
:eek: - While I agree that Hart has a future on Sundays, I did not expect anyone else to say that.I see Hart getting picked but in the middle rounds 4/5th round type.

Outside of V Young he made the most improvement of any QB over the last year.

He also showed class when he got benched for the red-shirt freshman.

I see Hart carry a clipboard for a few years but I could see him developing into a starter.

I just hope that Brian Leonard stays in school for his senior season. He is such fun to watch. If you can find the clip of him jumping over the Illinois defender and going 80 yds for a TD it will be well worth your time

RU RAH RAH

 
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Nice mock. I see the Volek trade, but are you assuming there is no Rivers trade? Or do you think it's not for a 1st round pick?
I don't know. I'm not sure that the Phillip Rivers bonanza is going to be as big a deal as people expect. He could get traded but I think what the Chargers will want and what people will give are two very different things. Look at players like Corey Dillon, Travis Henry, Mike McKenzie, etc. who get traded. Those guys had shown solid on field ability and could fetch very little. Unless someone that needs a QB thinks that Rivers, who they haven't seen in action for 24 months, is a better choice than someone available for their pick, no way does a trade happen. We'll see.[
Outside of Leinhart and possibly Young, what QBs do you think would be rated higher than Rivers? Throw in the salary benefits of Rivers and I would think there should be quite a bit of interest.
Cutler.
 
Why would the Jets take Williams when they already have Houston and Blaylock in the backfield? Wouldn't it make more sense to take Kiwanuka to replace Abraham, who I assume they will let go?
Why would you propose to Elisha Cuthbert when you have Angela Lansbury at home?
 
6. New York Jets  via Tennessee - DeAngelo Williams - RB - Memphis - Along with getting Billy Volek, they also get a between the tackles rumbler.  Essentially, they've revamped their offense in a couple of April hours.
I think the Jets would make out like bandits here.
I see you slotted Young to go #3 which is very feasable, but I can't see this trade happening. First off why would Tenn part with Volek to go with an unproven QB who doesn't know the system? They would have have to give up a nice rookie prospect and a proven guy in their system. It doesn't help their team get any better IMO. I could see Miami moving up to this spot by trading R. Williams and their first for the pick though. In less someone blows their mind with a trade offer they should stay right where they're at and draft Young. They aren't sold on Pennington who doesn't have the arm strength and can't stay healthy. They will never compete if they keep bringing Grampa Vinny out of retirement to bail them out.
 
I think the QB from Rutgers is going to be a star. He will probably be getting more attention closer to the draft. He isn't the traditional drop back guy like Lienart, which might be a plus.
:eek: - While I agree that Hart has a future on Sundays, I did not expect anyone else to say that.I see Hart getting picked but in the middle rounds 4/5th round type.

Outside of V Young he made the most improvement of any QB over the last year.

He also showed class when he got benched for the red-shirt freshman.

I see Hart carry a clipboard for a few years but I could see him developing into a starter.
19 QBs were invited to the combine and Hart was not one of them. He will not be drafted. There's a few QBs out there who were UFA developmental projects, and that appears to be the path Ryan Hart will travel. It's a long road with odds stacked against.
 
As an Iowa fan, I like seeing two LB's projected in the 1st round, but I'll be honest, I think Hodge is better than Greenway. Greenway has great physical talent, but there were several instances this year where I saw him blow plays and miss tackles that a freshman should have made. I think he has a ways to go on the mental development side. I personally think he single-handedly gave the Northwestern game away and he was instrumental in Michigan beating Iowa in OT.That part aside, you projection of Hodge going to Indy would almost be enough to make me a regular Colts fan, as they would have three of my favorite Iowa players on the roster at the same time (Dallas Clark, Bob Sanders, and Hodge). :excited:

 
Colin, again, if you knew Justice was coming out, would you fit him into this first round? And to the person who asked about Ko Simpson, the answer is safety #1-3, probably a first round grade who will be driven into round two with this deep talent pool. He's a sophomore, but he turns 23 next season. If he comes out, the depth at DB is certainly improved. :thumbup:

 
Colin, again, if you knew Justice was coming out, would you fit him into this first round?

And to the person who asked about Ko Simpson, the answer is safety #1-3, probably a first round grade who will be driven into round two with this deep talent pool. He's a sophomore, but he turns 23 next season. If he comes out, the depth at DB is certainly improved. :thumbup:
I think Justice would be behind Feguson, McNeil, and Winston for sure. After that, he may well be the next Tackle selected. I happen to think the Oline depth, combined with a noticed lack of DT depth (which is always a coveted position on day 1 for whatever reason) could send Justice to the fringe of round 1, maybe to round 2. Right now, I think he could go anywhere between 20-40, but we'll see.Colin

 
A curious note on Jimmy Williams. According to his combine invite, they want to work him out as a safety. That's all I know. It said, "Jimmy Williams-- Safety". Certainly that cannot include SS, so if this is real, then the Ravens are set at FS.
Williams started his entire sophomore year at FS. He moved to CB prior to his junior season. Combine his previous experience with his tackling and coverage skills and he should transition quite nicely to FS in the NFL.
Understood, but if sliding him back to FS is what the NFL is projecting that really changes the season long belief that he's a shut down corner. Obviously, he and Huff can play both positions (and will be tested and worked out accordingly). I just found it curious in Williams' case, because he has been discussed as a Champ Bailey type corner, which is far more valuable than a great FS. I can see the Ravens drafting a top corner, but not a FS. Regardless, he looks to be the first DB drafted, and some have projected him as the first defensive player drafted.
 
Outside of Leinhart and possibly Young, what QBs do you think would be rated higher than Rivers? Throw in the salary benefits of Rivers and I would think there should be quite a bit of interest.
Cutler.
Really? Even if Cutler grades out even or slightly higher than Rivers (which I don't think he will), what would you do if you were the Lions GM?

Option 1: Take Cutler, pay him ~ $30MM over 6 years, and sit him for a year at least, meaning you have to bring in a vet to start, costing another couple million. 2006 cap hit: ~ $7MM (for Cutler and the vet).

Option 2: Deal the pick for Rivers, who is due ~ $25MM over the next 4 years, but is only due $600,000 in '06. Rivers, having been through 2 years of NFL practices, training camps, and mini camps, is chomping at the bit to play and will start from Day 1. 2006 cap hit: $600,000.

Without even comparing their physical size or college careers (both strongly favor Rivers), Rivers is far and away a better bargain financially and is an immediate impact guy. If I'm a Lions fan, I'm much more excited about my season tickets if I think our new QB can win now.

 
- to echo earlier comments, i disagree on Atlanta taking an LB and feel safety is a huge need that can not be overlooked in this draft. beck and boley are good depth at this point, and a healthy hartwell, williams, and brooking is a terrific starting combo, so an LB seems unnecessary. There's some great free safety prospects out there including Landry, and Huff, and I think Bing has as much upside as any SS in the last few years. DE would also make sense depending on how much they like chauncey davis's performance this year.
Here's some intial comments on Davis from Mora:
Defensive end Chauncey Davis (28 tackles, three starts, two at left end, one at right). The fourth-round draft pick finally has learned the nuances of the right side after playing on the left side almost his entire football life.

Mora: "We still see him as a very good backup to Pat Kerney at left end. I really like him and think he will be a starter in this league and very productive at that. Being forced to play on the right side is only going to help him develop."
Brady Smith looks to be on his way out the door this offseason. If they don't feel like Davis is good enough on the right side then they will probably take a DE pretty high. NFLDraftCountdown has them taking Tamba Hali in the first, which seems like a reasonable pick. Colin, what are your thoughts on Hali since you decided he wasn't worth the 17th draft pick?

 
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I love this time of year because my Lions are out of it by November and I nothing to look forward to but the draft.A few questions and thoughts...Would the Lions pass on McNeil if he falls to them and select Culter? I know they need a QB, but they need help on the Oline as well. I like Cutler too, but that might be too high. Could you see the Lions trading down a few spots and then selecting Cutler? Any other thoughts you could offer on Cutler would be great as I would like to know more about him.Also, does Maroney fit what the Steelers need from a RB? I'd think they'd be looking at a bigger back.DeAngelo Williams to the Jets would be a great fit. I hadn't really thought of him that high, but the more I think about it, he should grade out high as he does everything well. He would be the perfecty successor to Martin as I see a lot of similarties.Overall, I love the draft talk and hope it continues.

 
Regarding the Titans, here are my predictions:They do trade Volek, but not for a move up. They trade him for a lower 1st rounder and another pick.I just don't see them moving up for a QB.I see them moving down and the top picks being OT, RB, LB, QB.

 
Outside of Leinhart and possibly Young, what QBs do you think would be rated higher than Rivers?  Throw in the salary benefits of Rivers and I would think there should be quite a bit of interest.
Cutler.
Really? Even if Cutler grades out even or slightly higher than Rivers (which I don't think he will), what would you do if you were the Lions GM?

Option 1: Take Cutler, pay him ~ $30MM over 6 years, and sit him for a year at least, meaning you have to bring in a vet to start, costing another couple million. 2006 cap hit: ~ $7MM (for Cutler and the vet).

Option 2: Deal the pick for Rivers, who is due ~ $25MM over the next 4 years, but is only due $600,000 in '06. Rivers, having been through 2 years of NFL practices, training camps, and mini camps, is chomping at the bit to play and will start from Day 1. 2006 cap hit: $600,000.

Without even comparing their physical size or college careers (both strongly favor Rivers), Rivers is far and away a better bargain financially and is an immediate impact guy. If I'm a Lions fan, I'm much more excited about my season tickets if I think our new QB can win now.
You presume that San Diego would be interested in dealing Rivers for the obligation of a high pick. For example, who would San Diego possibly/take if they end up with a selection in the top 15?
 
Elvis in stripes....I like that.Much is made of the need for an upgrade at DT and SS and I still believe they are bigger needs, but adding an effective speed rusher can change an entire defense. The D needs playmakers, period. He would certainly fit the bill.Presuming they go for need, though, with who is on board in this mock, who would you expect here at either DT or SS?Thanks.Great mock.

 
My :2cents:

Every year people project the Broncos and Panthers to take a TE in the 1st round and every year they pass. Why do you think this will change?

I think Eric Winston will be a high riser after all the evals are done. I think we will see several teams try to trade up and take OT this year.
:goodposting: Colin, love the draft and think its spot on for the most part. Denver seems to be the glaring weak link in this draft due simply to the expanse of talent at the TE position already. Putzier and Stephen alexander have platooned but the Broncos have really taken an intrest in Wesley Duke who is a freak of an athlete. Its up in the air as to whether he can play in the pros but he's someone the Broncos are cooing about.

On the topic of TE's, I do think Lewis goes first. It's the second TE I have questions about. Pope has shown he can play at a competitive level but it seems to me that his stock is staying nominal after having a sup-par year despite his spring-workout greatness. Davis, on the other hand, is a strong strong man despite his size whose numbers have suffered because of the poor o-line play from maryland that necessitates his presence as an extra blocker. But the dude is strong. He's set all of the Maryland weight room records and showed a little burst while running. He may be the third ranked TE now but I really do expect that to change come combine. His workout (strength testing and vertical) IMHO will put him over Pope-by far. In fact I've slated Pope as a 2nd round prospect but still being the 3rd TE off the board. Just something to visit come draft time. we'll just have to see.

Otherwise, nice pick with the Jags. I think they are in dire need of another TE as Brady is simply too old and the others have not stepped up as of yet. He also demands coverage from the SS and opens up the field for the Jag's speedy slot options in Matt Jones and (hopefully) Chad Owens. However, the biggest benefit to the jags is having an added blocker on the right side of the line to team with RT Mo Williams, who is currently having one of his worst seasons ever. Now they can contain the right side DE and take pressure off Leftwich. Also opens up the run for Taylor and Jones who did quite well this year considering their poor O-line play.

Another such option for the Jags is OG Max Jean Giles to replace struggling Vince Manuwai. Either is a solid pick.

keep it up colin :thumbup: :popcorn:

 
5. San Fransisco 49ers - D'Brickashaw Ferguson - OT - UVA - San Fran's line gets 100 times better just by getting the long, rangy tackle from JEfferson's home state.
Theirs no way Da 9ers take an O'line in the first round. Most of our O'line were hurt this season. We are going to take Deangelo Williams and trade him for bush. Then the Texans will trade Williams to the Jets for their pick, the one they got from the titans and hou will take a scrub. :-dI could only hope

 
2. Houston Texans - Reggie Bush - RB - USC - THey end up getting the guy they need anyway.

-Not need, WANT. They don't need a RB by any means. Their rushing game is the only good thing they have this year. But to pass on him would be a mistake. Getting decent value for DD or Wels would be wise.

 
Understood, but if sliding him back to FS is what the NFL is projecting that really changes the season long belief that he's a shut down corner. Obviously, he and Huff can play both positions (and will be tested and worked out accordingly). I just found it curious in Williams' case, because he has been discussed as a Champ Bailey type corner, which is far more valuable than a great FS. I can see the Ravens drafting a top corner, but not a FS. Regardless, he looks to be the first DB drafted, and some have projected him as the first defensive player drafted.
:shrug: I've heard of him switching at the next level for a while now this season.

Going into the Gator Bowl he's listed as 6'-3"/216 lbs. He plays the BC (boundary corner) position at Tech (the strongside corner, so he can help in run defense). He's willing to hit a RB and has the speed and skills to cover a WR. NFL scouts must think those kinds of things will be best used as an NFL safety. I can't really disagree.

If he puts on 10-15 lbs. between now and the draft I could definitely see him in the Roy Williams/Sean Taylor type of FS mold.

 
Understood, but if sliding him back to FS is what the NFL is projecting that really changes the season long belief that he's a shut down corner.
:shrug: I've heard of him switching at the next level for a while now this season.

Going into the Gator Bowl he's listed as 6'-3"/216 lbs. He plays the BC (boundary corner) position at Tech (the strongside corner, so he can help in run defense). He's willing to hit a RB and has the speed and skills to cover a WR. NFL scouts must think those kinds of things will be best used as an NFL safety. I can't really disagree.

If he puts on 10-15 lbs. between now and the draft I could definitely see him in the Roy Williams/Sean Taylor type of FS mold.
Thanks. Makes sense. Not a downgrade, just a big fast dude with great football skills. I've been thinking Champ Bailey and now we're talking Sean Taylor? :popcorn:

 
I think the QB from Rutgers is going to be a star. He will probably be getting more attention closer to the draft. He isn't the traditional drop back guy like Lienart, which might be a plus.
:eek: - While I agree that Hart has a future on Sundays, I did not expect anyone else to say that.I see Hart getting picked but in the middle rounds 4/5th round type.

Outside of V Young he made the most improvement of any QB over the last year.

He also showed class when he got benched for the red-shirt freshman.

I see Hart carry a clipboard for a few years but I could see him developing into a starter.
19 QBs were invited to the combine and Hart was not one of them. He will not be drafted. There's a few QBs out there who were UFA developmental projects, and that appears to be the path Ryan Hart will travel. It's a long road with odds stacked against.
Where is the combine invites listed and is that list set in stone??
 
Anybody else watching Minnesota and Virginia?

Sheesh, D'Brick and Maroney are overrated.

D'Brick is good, but he does get some help in pass protection. I'm not saying he's a bust, but how can he be so hyped in comparison to all these other OTs? I think it was a mock back when Colin said, he saw nothing to elevate D'Brick over Winston. There's 7 or 8 really good tackles in this draft. It would seem the supply should temper the demand. Virginia's RT is run blocking every bit as effectively as D'Brick. I just don't see the greatness, sorry. He'll be a fine addition to a team, but so will many others, and I doubt D'Brick is the best in this class. Three years from now, I think this will be very clear.

Maroney. What. is. the. big. deal? He is not nearly as fast as advertised. Maybe he burns it up in track shoes, but his football speed is just okay. I know he broke a 90 yarder. So did Mike Anderson. Maroney is physically weak. No way he runs with the same power as Jerome Harrison or Reggie Bush. It just isn't there. He looks about Reggie's size, but doesn't break the big plays. Bush takes two or three of those first half runs to the house. Maroney just doesn't have the vision and moves as advertised. And his hands, well, the overall athleticism just isn't there.

However, Eslinger and Setterstrom are awesome on the 0-line. I'd love to see Eslinger fall to Dallas in round two. He is ready to start in the NFL. I've been worried about his size, but that dude's a bull. He's the most impressive OL in this game.

 
Where is the combine invites listed and is that list set in stone??
Not set in stone, but pretty close. The initial invites go to seniors only. The list is generated from recommendations by the personnel departments of the 32 NFL franchises. There is extra room in Indianapolis for another dozen + players, these will mostly be underclassmen who declare. RSVPs (declines) can also add a few spots. Expect Leinart to decline and work out on his own for the scouts. Players who have great showings at the Senior Bowl, Hula Bowl, East West, etc Bowls, can also earn invites. What's important about this list is it shows you who the NFL teams are most interested in, and the omissions (Barrick Nealy, Justin London, etc) are more compelling than the list itself.

Here is the initial list (seniors only)

 
I love the mocks that you do. Thanks for the insight, creativity and acumen that you ALWAYS display. You always get me thinking.Now, if I may throw a monkey wrench into the mix, suppose that Young stays at Texas for another year. That would change a whole bunch of scenarios and would have a domino effect.Great job as usual - can we expect Mock #2 before the Super Bowl?

 
Colin throws out mocks so often, you might get it before the playoffs start after the order is set at the top.

 
Can the Titans even afford to sign a #3 pick?

If they were really after Young I think they would wait to see if he fell past #4 and #5 - I doubt Mauck is ready to be McNairs primary backup...

Would GB and the 49ers really pick a qb? I suppose they would protect themselves from someone else trading up...
:confused: The Titans will be $10-$15 mil UNDER the salary cap by the time they make the restructurings/cuts they will need to in the offseason

 
Glad to see you back into the mix HERD :thumbup:Couple of thoughts...1) I don't think Young is coming out2) The Jets are more likely to get McNair than Volek IMHO...and even more likely to look at Kerry Collins or Phil Rivers3) Omar Jacobs isn't coming out [at least I don't expect him to]4) Ahmad Brooks isn't coming out b/c this is a FANTASTIC LB class and he wouldn't sniff that high regardless of his measurablesOverall a really solid first effort though :thumbup:

 
My  :2cents:

Every year people project the Broncos and Panthers to take a TE in the 1st round and every year they pass.  Why do you think this will change?

I think Eric Winston will be a high riser after all the evals are done.    I think we will see several teams try to trade up and take OT this year.
:goodposting: Colin, love the draft and think its spot on for the most part. Denver seems to be the glaring weak link in this draft due simply to the expanse of talent at the TE position already. Putzier and Stephen alexander have platooned but the Broncos have really taken an intrest in Wesley Duke who is a freak of an athlete. Its up in the air as to whether he can play in the pros but he's someone the Broncos are cooing about.
Denver doesn't like drafting TE's, they like taking some guy that plays some other position and turn him into a TE. Doesn't work too bad.
 
Jet fan hereFrom your post to Jets/Ten's ears Colin! From a Jet fan perspective - if we were able to get Volek and a top RB like Williams I would be thrilled!!!! Go WR in rds 2 (unless TO comes to town!!!) and OL in 3 and welcome to the revamped Jet O. Volek, TO and Williams.....I can dream can't I after this train wreck year!!!

 
Glad to see you back into the mix HERD :thumbup:

Couple of thoughts...

1) I don't think Young is coming out

2) The Jets are more likely to get McNair than Volek IMHO...and even more likely to look at Kerry Collins or Phil Rivers

3) Omar Jacobs isn't coming out [at least I don't expect him to]

4) Ahmad Brooks isn't coming out b/c this is a FANTASTIC LB class and he wouldn't sniff that high regardless of his measurables

Overall a really solid first effort though :thumbup:
This makes absolutely no sense. The Titans have repeatedly said they want McNair back and both sides want to renegotiate. Volek has been horrible as a starter(stats in blowouts afe fun, but meaningless) and as has been noted, the Titans are playing Mauck, not Volek this week.This screams that they want to check out Mauck's ability as a backup, and that Volek will not be back. Volek hiring Rosenhaus as an agent was a further sign of this back in August.

 
6. New York Jets via Tennessee - DeAngelo Williams - RB - Memphis - Along with getting Billy Volek, they also get a between the tackles rumbler. Essentially, they've revamped their offense in a couple of April hours.
I think the Jets would make out like bandits here.
I see you slotted Young to go #3 which is very feasable, but I can't see this trade happening. First off why would Tenn part with Volek to go with an unproven QB who doesn't know the system? They would have have to give up a nice rookie prospect and a proven guy in their system. It doesn't help their team get any better IMO.
I agree. With Norm Chow there, I think Tenn would be falling all over itself to figure out a way to draft Lienart. I don't see them being that interested in Young. They have Volek, I would take Volek over YOung and again, that is coming from a true homer here. I think Volek has proven he can get the ball in the end zone and he all ready knows the system.
 
Glad to see you back into the mix HERD :thumbup:

Couple of thoughts...

1) I don't think Young is coming out

2) The Jets are more likely to get McNair than Volek IMHO...and even more likely to look at Kerry Collins or Phil Rivers

3) Omar Jacobs isn't coming out [at least I don't expect him to]

4) Ahmad Brooks isn't coming out b/c this is a FANTASTIC LB class and he wouldn't sniff that high regardless of his measurables

Overall a really solid first effort though :thumbup:
This makes absolutely no sense. The Titans have repeatedly said they want McNair back and both sides want to renegotiate. Volek has been horrible as a starter(stats in blowouts afe fun, but meaningless) and as has been noted, the Titans are playing Mauck, not Volek this week.This screams that they want to check out Mauck's ability as a backup, and that Volek will not be back. Volek hiring Rosenhaus as an agent was a further sign of this back in August.
I'm fully aware that both sides are saying they want to get something done, but the Titans need to look long and hard at their situation, both from a cap perspective and the realistic notion of whether they can compete next year with or without Stevie Mac. He's due a $50 million roster bonus and is slotted to make $9 million in base salary, suffice to say it's hardly a reach to think they'll be significantly far apart in what each feels is a fair offer during renegotiations.

Ultimately McNair probably stays in Tennessee, but it's VERY realistic to think both sides have enough incentive against that happening for negotiations to fall astray.

Volek is a goner, this much I agree. I'm just not sure whether Mike Heimerdinger and the Jets brass would really feel comfortable with him as their replacement for Chad Pennington as the face of the franchise. Volek is going to 30 next season, hardly a spring chicken to build around.

 
Jason, I agree that the Jets would not be comfortable with Volek.I really do not understand the fascination with what is a very very average "backup" QB, and a below average starter. Hes brittle, he can't throw anything but the deep ball, and starts doing the Joey Harrington chuck and duck after he gets hit for the first time. McNair will be a Titan barring his retirement. McNair knows he will not be able to get on the market what he would be able to get from the Titans, and hes seen what his good friend Eddie George has gone through when he didnt accept a smaller deal to stay with the home team.My opinion, at least.

 
No to be rude here, but this couldn't have waited until say, Sunday night when we would know the order of the top 20 in the draft?

Oh, and Hawk at #7 overall is a steal. He's gonna be a star in this league.
Just like Katzenmwhatsmyname?
 
No to be rude here, but this couldn't have waited until say, Sunday night when we would know the order of the top 20 in the draft?

Oh, and Hawk at #7 overall is a steal.  He's gonna be a star in this league.
Just like Katzenmwhatsmyname?
Hopefully Hawk won't have any career ending injuries like Katzenmoyer.
 
I must not have seen enough of Volek to make the same predictions about him. He looked pretty decent to me but I only saw him in limited action and mostly last year not this year. I also didn't realize the guy was 30. That isn't good.

 
I must not have seen enough of Volek to make the same predictions about him. He looked pretty decent to me but I only saw him in limited action and mostly last year not this year.

I also didn't realize the guy was 30. That isn't good.
He did play well against OAK and KC, 2 of the worst Ds in the NFL last year in shootouts. He played horribly against:

SD(though he got huge garbage yards in the 4th Q)

MIN(completed 49% and threw 3 INTs against one of the worst Ds in the NFL)

CHI(took the game winning saftey in OT)

DEN(absolutely brutual)

IND(threw 3 long jump balls to Bennett in the 1st half and then couldnt complete a pass the rest of the game),

DET(looked completely shellshocked after the Denver game)

This year he has played most of two games against MIA and ARI and besides one long TD pass to Brandon Jones, he has thrown essentially 55 passes for about 270 yards and a TD.

He'd be a good backup for Pennington in NYJ since he knows the offense, but I doubt the Jets will give up the 3 spots of draft position to get him. I think theyd more likely get a high 3rd rounder.

Local word has Volek being worth a low 2, high 3 in the 2006 draft.

 
With Norm Chow there, I think Tenn would be falling all over itself to figure out a way to draft Lienart. I don't see them being that interested in Young.
I'm pretty sure Chow isn't a big Leinart fan. He preferred Cassel (for his athleticism) when he was at USC, and he claimed Booty was the best all-around QB. Carroll insisted Leinart get the job, even though he wasn't Chow's preference, because of all the hard work Matt had put in-- Leinart was more familiar with the system and had more tutelage under Palmer. Chow later expressed "surprise" with Leinart's success. Chow, going back 30 years, prefers mobile guys who can make plays on the run and out of the pocket. Steve Young was his masterpiece. Vince Young may have him salivating, not Leinart. If Chow is enamored with a Trojan, be sure it is Reggie Bush. He has called Bush the best football player he has ever seen-- and he has seen some great ones.
 
Glad to see you back into the mix HERD :thumbup:

Couple of thoughts...

1) I don't think Young is coming out

2) The Jets are more likely to get McNair than Volek IMHO...and even more likely to look at Kerry Collins or Phil Rivers

3) Omar Jacobs isn't coming out [at least I don't expect him to]

4) Ahmad Brooks isn't coming out b/c this is a FANTASTIC LB class and he wouldn't sniff that high regardless of his measurables

Overall a really solid first effort though :thumbup:
This makes absolutely no sense. The Titans have repeatedly said they want McNair back and both sides want to renegotiate. Volek has been horrible as a starter(stats in blowouts afe fun, but meaningless) and as has been noted, the Titans are playing Mauck, not Volek this week.This screams that they want to check out Mauck's ability as a backup, and that Volek will not be back. Volek hiring Rosenhaus as an agent was a further sign of this back in August.
I'm fully aware that both sides are saying they want to get something done, but the Titans need to look long and hard at their situation, both from a cap perspective and the realistic notion of whether they can compete next year with or without Stevie Mac. He's due a $50 million roster bonus and is slotted to make $9 million in base salary, suffice to say it's hardly a reach to think they'll be significantly far apart in what each feels is a fair offer during renegotiations.

Ultimately McNair probably stays in Tennessee, but it's VERY realistic to think both sides have enough incentive against that happening for negotiations to fall astray.

Volek is a goner, this much I agree. I'm just not sure whether Mike Heimerdinger and the Jets brass would really feel comfortable with him as their replacement for Chad Pennington as the face of the franchise. Volek is going to 30 next season, hardly a spring chicken to build around.
Here is what Neil O'Donnell, former Titans QB who is now a sports reporter in Nashville had to say about the Titans offensive side of the ball in the offseasonBen Troupe - Back

Brad Hopkins - Gone

Zach Pillar - Back

Juston Hartwig - Gone

Benji Olsen - Gone

Michael Roos - Back

Erron Kinney - Back

Tyrone Calico - Gone

Courtney Roby - Back

Roydell Williams - Back

Brandon Jones - Back

Drew Bennett - Back

Steve McNair - Back

Chris Brown - Back

Billy Volek - Gone

Travis Henry - Gone

Jarret Payton - Back

Troy Fleming - Gone

The only one I personally disagree with is Fleming; no reason to cut him unless they find someone better in camp next year.

Just thought Id bring in his perspective about what happens with McNair/Volek.

 
27. Chicago - Santonio Holmes - WR - OSU - Bradley looked good before injury, and Bettian and Mushin are solid, but the Bears need to continue adding young receivers to build momentum for their offense.
Just caught this at GBN:
Ohio State junior Santonio Holmes, who is reportedly exploring his options, says he wants to be drafted near the top of the first round and has indicated that he might stay I school if he isn’t going to be selected until the latter part of the first round. Holmes does have a chance to be the first WR selected this year if he does enter the draft, but in a weak yaer at the position could indeed last past the 20th pick.
If the above is true, Santonio stays in school.
 

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