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Herm has simply no consideration for you.
Another poster brought up the great point in another thread that LJ's outlook for the rest of season affects their negotiating position with any RBs they are talking to right now. If they know LJ is out for the year, they can play hardball, and this is an organization that seems to put a lot of emphasis on dollars and cents.
Herm is channeling Bill Belichick....
That would be my guess. Call me crazy.
It's not a cut and dry injury to diagnose like ligament tear. I'm betting if they were 100% sure he'd be out they'd announce it. I don't buy the whole negotiation angle. Not like a Corey Dillon's going to come in and get bigger money because LJ is on the shelf. Guys currently out of the league wanting back in aren't going to turn down a deal because they didn't get a few extra bucks.
Then the 1st thing I would do if they don't know is fire the team doctor. This should have been figured out by now. The Chiefs are definately hiding something here.That would be my guess. Call me crazy.
From the FA RBs perspective, I agree, but this is a stingy organization, so from KC's perspective, I don't.But hey, we're speculating, so anything's fair game.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:It's not a cut and dry injury to diagnose like ligament tear. I'm betting if they were 100% sure he'd be out they'd announce it. I don't buy the whole negotiation angle. Not like a Corey Dillon's going to come in and get bigger money because LJ is on the shelf. Guys currently out of the league wanting back in aren't going to turn down a deal because they didn't get a few extra bucks.
Rounders said:Then the 1st thing I would do if they don't know is fire the team doctor. This should have been figured out by now. The Chiefs are definately hiding something here.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:
They're hiding nothing. If they weren't 100% sure he was done for the season, why would they say he was? I'm guessing they think he's done, but aren't going to say for sure until they gather information about the injury, finish their tests, get a 2nd opinion, figure out how long the rehab is, decide if surgery is needed, etc, etc, etc. This takes time. Once they finish that process, then they can announce if the guy is out for the year (or not).my thought here is that if they deny it , what do they have to lose, denver is already preparing with LJ out, so the fact that he wont confirm nor deny, has me pointed to season ending injuryFrom the FA RBs perspective, I agree, but this is a stingy organization, so from KC's perspective, I don't.But hey, we're speculating, so anything's fair game.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:
I can't imagine LJ's status affecting any negotiation with a RB who's currently out of the league, unless you're talking about Barry Sanders or something, which obviously they aren't. An unemployed RB's desire to return to the show is all KC needs to negotiate a deal. They don't need to hide a current players status to get a guy to sign a contract. Just my opinion.From the FA RBs perspective, I agree, but this is a stingy organization, so from KC's perspective, I don't.But hey, we're speculating, so anything's fair game.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:
If this were before the trade deadline, it could affect what the Chiefs would have to give up for, say, Lamont Jordan.But at this point, I think you're right.
Agents get paid to exploit stuff like this. If its confirmed that LJ is out for the year, then the agent has a stronger position. They can push for an extra year on the deal, or an extra few hundred K, especially if we're talking about an established player like Dillon.Im not saying I buy this explanation, but were purely speculating here, grasping at straws as to why they would possibly be sitting on info, and that's one of the only ones that makes any sense to me - strictly because of how stingy they are. If it was another organization, Id be more inclined to dismiss that explanation out of hand.I can't imagine LJ's status affecting any negotiation with a RB who's currently out of the league, unless you're talking about Barry Sanders or something, which obviously they aren't. An unemployed RB's desire to return to the show is all KC needs to negotiate a deal. They don't need to hide a current players status to get a guy to sign a contract. Just my opinion.From the FA RBs perspective, I agree, but this is a stingy organization, so from KC's perspective, I don't.But hey, we're speculating, so anything's fair game.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:It's not a cut and dry injury to diagnose like ligament tear. I'm betting if they were 100% sure he'd be out they'd announce it. I don't buy the whole negotiation angle. Not like a Corey Dillon's going to come in and get bigger money because LJ is on the shelf. Guys currently out of the league wanting back in aren't going to turn down a deal because they didn't get a few extra bucks.
Little to none.
They are simply doing what is best for their team....it stinks for media and fans...and fantasy football players, but as a KC homer, it does not bother me. Now, the KC media, they act like Herm and Co. are stealing their lunch money.Rounders said:
They have a track record of just being "we'll wait and see" about major injuries anyway don't they? That Priest Holmes situation played out for about two years and in the end he just sort of hung around the team and worked on his own a lot. They never went in a particular direction or made a decision about Trent Green until MIA expressed interest and they traded him away.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:It's not a cut and dry injury to diagnose like ligament tear. I'm betting if they were 100% sure he'd be out they'd announce it.
Absolutely.
Perhaps the more relvant question is why would an NFL team feel it has any obligation to keep the public informed of internal matters on an up-to-the-minute basis? As long as they are operating within league rules, there is no incentive to release information on a piecemeal basis and they're probably better off keeping everything in-house until they are 100% certain.Rounders said:
I can't imagine on short notice them signing someone, who's currently out of the league, to multi-year deal at this point. I agree the Chiefs may be stingy, but saving money/cap space isn't exclusive to only KC. I agree pre-deadline it may have slight impact, but guys not in the NFL at this point are going to line-up to be on that team for the minimum. Interesting theory, I just don't buy it. I think it's more they don't want to just cast away their #1 player for the year until they're 100% sure. How would you feel if you were LJ and you're still talking to doctors, waiting for results and KC announces you're done? It's common sense. They're not going to bury a guy until he's confirmed dead, especially not their star who just held out.Agents get paid to exploit stuff like this. If its confirmed that LJ is out for the year, then the agent has a stronger position. They can push for an extra year on the deal, or an extra few hundred K, especially if we're talking about an established player like Dillon.Im not saying I buy this explanation, but were purely speculating here, grasping at straws as to why they would possibly be sitting on info, and that's one of the only ones that makes any sense to me - strictly because of how stingy they are. If it was another organization, Id be more inclined to dismiss that explanation out of hand.I can't imagine LJ's status affecting any negotiation with a RB who's currently out of the league, unless you're talking about Barry Sanders or something, which obviously they aren't. An unemployed RB's desire to return to the show is all KC needs to negotiate a deal. They don't need to hide a current players status to get a guy to sign a contract. Just my opinion.From the FA RBs perspective, I agree, but this is a stingy organization, so from KC's perspective, I don't.But hey, we're speculating, so anything's fair game.Nipsey said:That would be my guess. Call me crazy.Rounders said:It's not a cut and dry injury to diagnose like ligament tear. I'm betting if they were 100% sure he'd be out they'd announce it. I don't buy the whole negotiation angle. Not like a Corey Dillon's going to come in and get bigger money because LJ is on the shelf. Guys currently out of the league wanting back in aren't going to turn down a deal because they didn't get a few extra bucks.
Is there really hardball negotiations for a RB off the street with 7 weeks left in the season for a team that wont make the playoffs?Sigmund Bloom said:
They are currently tied for first place in their division.
Realistically though they will have to win the division to make the playoffs. Odds are they won't beat out San Diego, with or without LJ.
They have an easier remaining schedule than SD (DEN @IND OAK SD @DEN TEN @DET @NYJ VS. IND @JAX BAL @KC @TEN DET DEN @OAK), and theyve already beaten SD on the road. I wouldn't be so quick to count them out.
Wouldn't you think other GM's would be aware KC may be looking for another RB?
If Jax gets Garrard back they will be much tougher than with Gray but they really aren't playing lights out and Baltimore is a mess on offense. I agree that SD is not playing up to their potential but I would favor them as it stands, personally.
