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[sjacksonfan]

Yeah. I know...all players have value. That being said some guys don't fire me up.

Peyton Manning - I don't know why he's still ranked ahead of Romo. I have a feeling by the time most leagues draft he's going to be the fall guy at QB. Missing most of camp and surgery so close to the season don't excite. I'm going to let someone else take him. If you were going to take a QB that high, wouldn't you rather have Romo or even Brees? Lacking 'the sexy' this year.

Chad Johson/ T.J. Houshmandzadeh - The Bengals are going to be a mess. TJ died last year after a great start. I'd rather have almost any receiver being drafted around these guys. Would rather take on a Colston/Andre Johnson than either of these guys or take a shot at filling RB 2.

Which players scare you for no good reason?

 

[Jon_Moore]

Yeah. I know...all players have value. That being said some guys don't fire me up.Peyton Manning - I don't know why he's still ranked ahead of Romo. I have a feeling by the time most leagues draft he's going to be the fall guy at QB. Missing most of camp and surgery so close to the season don't excite. I'm going to let someone else take him. If you were going to take a QB that high, wouldn't you rather have Romo or even Brees? Lacking 'the sexy' this year.Chad Johson/ T.J. Houshmandzadeh - The Bengals are going to be a mess. TJ died last year after a great start. I'd rather have almost any receiver being drafted around these guys. Would rather take on a Colston/Andre Johnson than either of these guys or take a shot at filling RB 2.Which players scare you for no good reason?

Ryan Grant.Jamal LewisBrandon JacobsCalvin JohnsonDerek Anderson

 

[North]

Gore

Grant

LJ

Edge

Maroney

R. Brown

L. White

S. Young

 

[Arnold. S]

GoreGrantLJEdgeMaroneyR. BrownL. WhiteS. Young

you just about summed up my list

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Frank Gore - Never more than 8 rushing TDs in a season, plus Martz has not been kind to his RBs recently. Add in the fact that SF has no bona fide QB and that spells - - continues to spell offensive doom for the 49ers.

Earnest Graham - I will virtually wager my paycheck that Graham doesn't reach 10 rushing TDs again this season. The Bucs offense is aging and it won't be long before Cadillac Williams returns to the huddle. Throw in Warrick Dunn and it's just too unlikely that Graham will finish anywhere near where he did last year.

Larry Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald will not have the same high targets and consistency that he did last year if Matt Leinart remains the Cardinals QB. If he reaches mid 80s receptions with Leinart playing all year, I will be surprised.

 

[gbill2004]

How about Edge in the 6th round of a 12 team league??? Would you take him there??

 

[kupcho1]

LT

I don't have the 1st pick in my redraft league, but if I did, I'd either deal it or go with AP.

LT 2008 = Shaun Alexander 2006

Alexander came into the league in 2000, but did not play much due to Watters (339 rush attempts). LT entered the league in 2001 and was immediately thrust into the starting role (339 rush attempts). LT has averaged 338 rushes per year, never rushed less than 313 times (2003). I think LT's due for a breakdown, much like Alexander broke down a few years ago. This is the year it begins.

 

[sjacksonfan]

Larry Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald will not have the same high targets and consistency that he did last year if Matt Leinart remains the Cardinals QB. If he reaches mid 80s receptions with Leinart playing all year, I will be surprised.

Another guy who goes way too high overall IMO.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Larry Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald will not have the same high targets and consistency that he did last year if Matt Leinart remains the Cardinals QB. If he reaches mid 80s receptions with Leinart playing all year, I will be surprised.

Another guy who goes way too high overall IMO.

He hasn't been in the league long enough to get a good sample size in terms of 2 year pairs, but seems like he does the every other year trend so far, this could be a down year.

 

[Bears_Man2]

GoreGrantLJEdgeMaroneyR. BrownL. WhiteS. Young

Pretty nice list. I wouldn't mind Edge as a RB3, but not someone who I'll go overboard trying to get.

 

[flooredyas]

Marvin

Ronny Brown

Willis

LJ

Cinn Recievers

Carson

Aside from a few others previously mentioned

 

[Jambi]

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.

Gore Gore is a joke. Why do people continue to attach his name to a mid 1st round pick?

Moss - Will be going way too high. Now I wouldn't say I want no part of him but his ADP will be way too high for me to grab him.

Steve Smith - His magical days are behind him.

I'm not all that excited about anyone this year..

 

[davearm]

Surprised at the Chad Johnson doubters. This is a guy that led the AFC in rec yards 4 straight seasons (or so I heard on MNF), and has the same core of teammates as he's had for the last few.

I'm bullish on Johnson, Housh, *and* Palmer this year. Neither their RBs nor their defense will be winning games for them.

 

[Unlucky]

Funny, some of the guys I'm highest on this year are:

P. Manning - 4 awesome targets + no depth at RB = lots of passing.

F. Gore - Martz will help this offense and will run the ball

R. Grant - Sick YPC last year. He even destroyed MIN, which was the 2nd best in YPC against.

Chad Johnson - No 3rd WR option in Cinci - he and Housh light it up as the Bengals play catchup.

Randy Moss - best WR in the history of the NFL. Has one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL throwing him the ball. They lost the Superbowl.

My avoid list:

Marion Barber

E. Graham

W. McGahee unless he really falls

R. Wayne, only because I have several other WRs higher and he's going ahead of them. I still think he'll be really good, but I'm not going to get him.

R. Bush - overvalued

Jones-Drew - still too high

Hasselbeck - don't know why, but I've seen him go way too early for QBs.

 

[shredhead]

Relatively short list for me and all have already been mentioned.

Gore

LJ

McGahee

Carson Palmer

Some guys I'd love to get at their ADP are:

Portis

Lynch

Santana Moss

Donte Stallworth

Bulger

Cutler

Jason Campbell

I'm not sure why, but I'm drinking the Zorn Koolaid this year.

 

[davearm]

Jackson -- 4 years, 1 top 10 finish, and now a holdout. Pass.

Gore -- A 49er offensive player in the 1st round? Not a chance. Unless it's someone like Bryant Johnson as a WR4/5, I want no part of that mess, Martz or no Martz.

Jones-Drew -- way too dependent on TDs for my taste.

Jacobs -- this talk of the Giants "playing the hot hand" week to week does not sit well.

Maroney -- just way too many mouths to feed there (RB and otherwise), and too much variation in the gameplan week-to-week.

Lewis -- just can't get past the fact this guy had his owners pulling their hair out two years in a row in 05 and 06.

Graham -- not sold on him, or TB.

Turner -- I'll let someone else make a strong buy into that offense.

Brown -- way too many red flags.

A Johnson -- way too prominent in the injury news already.

Burress -- see A Johnson.

Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams -- I'll let someone else overpay for two guys that will fight for a not-so-big pie. Williams has been WR29, WR30, WR10, and WR33 in 4 years.

Targets:

LT, Westy, and Portis at their round 1 ADPs.

LJ in the second will be good value.

McGahee in the 3rd could be a steal. OLine is more of a concern than the knee or Rice.

I like spending a late 2nd on Manning, or a 3/4 on Romo/Brees/Palmer, or even Roth. I see real separation from the next tier.

Parker, Jones as strong RB2s available in the late 3rd or 4th.

 

[cmv5]

Larry Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald will not have the same high targets and consistency that he did last year if Matt Leinart remains the Cardinals QB. If he reaches mid 80s receptions with Leinart playing all year, I will be surprised.

Another guy who goes way too high overall IMO.

He hasn't been in the league long enough to get a good sample size in terms of 2 year pairs, but seems like he does the every other year trend so far, this could be a down year.

Yeah, I am going to disagree with the every other year thing here. He has 2 less than stellar years, one was his rookie season. I am going to give him a break on that one. In 2006 he got hurt and missed 3 full games and was hurt for some others. He was still solid on a per game basis.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Surprised at the Chad Johnson doubters. This is a guy that led the AFC in rec yards 4 straight seasons (or so I heard on MNF), and has the same core of teammates as he's had for the last few.I'm bullish on Johnson, Housh, *and* Palmer this year. Neither their RBs nor their defense will be winning games for them.

I agree. I'm bullish on CJ. Bearish on Grant, J.Lewis, Gore, and Roy Williams.

 

[BlueDredSo]

Funny, some of the guys I'm highest on this year are. Manning - 4 awesome targets + no depth at RB = lots of passing.F. Gore - Martz will help this offense and will run the ballR. Grant - Sick YPC last year. He even destroyed MIN, which was the 2nd best in YPC against. Chad Johnson - No 3rd WR option in Cinci - he and Housh light it up as the Bengals play catchup.Randy Moss - best WR in the history of the NFL. Has one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL throwing him the ball. They lost the Superbowl. My avoid list:Marion BarberE. GrahamW. McGahee unless he really fallsR. Wayne, only because I have several other WRs higher and he's going ahead of them. I still think he'll be really good, but I'm not going to get him.R. Bush - overvaluedJones-Drew - still too highHasselbeck - don't know why, but I've seen him go way too early for QBs.

Unlucky is very wise, and a legendary commissioner of online leagues. My list of unwanted at their current ADP:Gore, McGahee, LJ, Jones-Drew, Turner, Jacobs, Maroney, Bowe, Jennings, Young, DeAngelo WilliamsCall me crazy, but I'd love to have J. Lewis as my RB2.

 

[BoltBacker]

Peyton Manning - I don't know why he's still ranked ahead of Romo. I have a feeling by the time most leagues draft he's going to be the fall guy at QB. Missing most of camp and surgery so close to the season don't excite. I'm going to let someone else take him. If you were going to take a QB that high, wouldn't you rather have Romo or even Brees? Lacking 'the sexy' this year.

I think your reasons for doubting him would resonate more with me if Manning wasn't in an offense he has completely dialed in, if his receivers didn't already have good chemistry with him(if they were comprised of FA/rookies) and if his receiving corp wasn't projected to be stronger this year than last(Harrison should play more, Gonzales should be more acclimated both to the offense and the pro game). I've seen him fall to the third in a few drafts and I think he's a bargain in the third. I don't think he's falling to Romo/Brees, they are just climbing closer to Peyton.

 

[FFFIEND]

Well, I am letting other people take the oldies like Edge and Rudi. I think the wheels are falling off the bus. I will also pass on Larry Johnson - He is another RB that I think is on the decline. The carries just build up on these guys.

 

[jurb26]

Tony Romo - Won't repeat last years numbers. Not close IMO. 36 Tds down to 30.

Adrian Peterson - Still going to be in a RBBC.

Ryan Grant - One year wonder?

Michael Turner - Overrated talent on a bad team.

Earnest Graham - One year wonder?

Larry Fitzgerald - I think this will be the year of the Boldin!

Steve Smith - Didn't like him before the 2 game suspension.

Welker - Too reliant on Moss for his success. I'd still take him in PPR.

Witten/Gates - Really any TE that you would have to draft in the 3rd or 4th round. There are too many good ones out there to do so.

 

[twitch]

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.Gore Gore is a joke. Why do people continue to attach his name to a mid 1st round pick? Moss - Will be going way too high. Now I wouldn't say I want no part of him but his ADP will be way too high for me to grab him.Steve Smith - His magical days are behind him. I'm not all that excited about anyone this year..

Dude, just take the year off.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Funny, some of the guys I'm highest on this year are:

P. Manning - 4 awesome targets + no depth at RB = lots of passing.

F. Gore - Martz will help this offense and will run the ball

R. Grant - Sick YPC last year. He even destroyed MIN, which was the 2nd best in YPC against.

Chad Johnson - No 3rd WR option in Cinci - he and Housh light it up as the Bengals play catchup.

Randy Moss - best WR in the history of the NFL. Has one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL throwing him the ball. They lost the Superbowl.

My avoid list:

Marion Barber

E. Graham

W. McGahee unless he really falls

R. Wayne, only because I have several other WRs higher and he's going ahead of them. I still think he'll be really good, but I'm not going to get him.

R. Bush - overvalued

Jones-Drew - still too high

Hasselbeck - don't know why, but I've seen him go way too early for QBs.

Lately is sucks to own a RB where Martz is involved. Martz having to run the ball is like pulling teeth.

 

[munchkin]

Romo---How about he hooks up with someone who can actually sing, Diane Reeves maybe.

T.O.----I wouldn't want him peeling onions in my kitchen.

Witten---Gets Romo's left-overs.

Dallas D---The all 2nd amendment team.

Nick Folk---Not much for singer/songwriters.

 

[dmonte]

Steven Jackson - if he's holding out still when you draft (and many drafts are upcoming in the next 2 weeks), why would you use a top pick on him?

Upside - you get what you paid for ... a top RB

Downside - total bust ... you wasted your top pick, and you as a result, you've got no chance at your championship.

 

[Tanner9919]

Well, I am letting other people take the oldies like Edge and Rudi. I think the wheels are falling off the bus. I will also pass on Larry Johnson - He is another RB that I think is on the decline. The carries just build up on these guys.

LJ has just 1050 career carries

sorry,but the 400+ carry season of 2006 had NOTHING to do with his freak injury last year.. fantasy football myth, 101

I agree on Rudi and Edge, both are past their prime, but LJ should have a rebound year..Herm will force-feed him the ball nonstop...330 carries at a minimum..at 4.2 per carry, it equates to 1386 yards..he's more likely to score 10+ tds than any RB not named Tomlinson or Portis, just look at what Herm did with C-Mart

Portis has 1710 carries, so,by your standards, Portis is washed up then, correct?!

 

[gump]

Earnest Graham - I will virtually wager my paycheck that Graham doesn't reach 10 rushing TDs again this season. The Bucs offense is aging and it won't be long before Cadillac Williams returns to the huddle. Throw in Warrick Dunn and it's just too unlikely that Graham will finish anywhere near where he did last year.

Depends on what you mean by "aging". The QB and #1 WR are...but the Offensive Line is not. They have 3 young potential studs, added the premier FA center to upgrade there, and drafted what looks like another potential stud who may make an immediate impact. Also depends on how you see the team performing overall.

*If* the Bucs get the lead in games...Graham will be money behind this young and talented OL.

 

[Ned]

Larry Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald will not have the same high targets and consistency that he did last year if Matt Leinart remains the Cardinals QB. If he reaches mid 80s receptions with Leinart playing all year, I will be surprised.

Another guy who goes way too high overall IMO.

He hasn't been in the league long enough to get a good sample size in terms of 2 year pairs, but seems like he does the every other year trend so far, this could be a down year.

while i can see haseley's worry about leinart, the 'every other year' stuff is bogus. this actually needs to go into that ff myths thread.

 

[dmac37]

Tony Romo - Won't repeat last years numbers. Not close IMO. 36 Tds down to 30.

Adrian Peterson - Still going to be in a RBBC.

Ryan Grant - One year wonder?

Michael Turner - Overrated talent on a bad team.

Earnest Graham - One year wonder?

Larry Fitzgerald - I think this will be the year of the Boldin!

Steve Smith - Didn't like him before the 2 game suspension.

Welker - Too reliant on Moss for his success. I'd still take him in PPR.

Witten/Gates - Really any TE that you would have to draft in the 3rd or 4th round. There are too many good ones out there to do so.

I agree with Boldin, Fitz is always drafted way higher but they are not that far off from each other. Also early last year before both Leinart and Boldin were injured it seemed like Leinart went to Boldin more.

 

[Franknbeans]

Steven Jackson. The longer he holds out, the more likely he is to get injured.

 

[thehornet]

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.Gore Gore is a joke. Why do people continue to attach his name to a mid 1st round pick? Moss - Will be going way too high. Now I wouldn't say I want no part of him but his ADP will be way too high for me to grab him.Steve Smith - His magical days are behind him. I'm not all that excited about anyone this year..

about your reasoning on all of theses picks.

 

[thehornet]

Well, I am letting other people take the oldies like Edge and Rudi. I think the wheels are falling off the bus. I will also pass on Larry Johnson - He is another RB that I think is on the decline. The carries just build up on these guys.

lj has about 900 career carries.

 

[Peter Lemonjello]

Well, I am letting other people take the oldies like Edge and Rudi. I think the wheels are falling off the bus. I will also pass on Larry Johnson - He is another RB that I think is on the decline. The carries just build up on these guys.

LJ has just 1050 career carries

sorry,but the 400+ carry season of 2006 had NOTHING to do with his freak injury last year.. fantasy football myth, 101

I agree on Rudi and Edge, both are past their prime, but LJ should have a rebound year..Herm will force-feed him the ball nonstop...330 carries at a minimum..at 4.2 per carry, it equates to 1386 yards..he's more likely to score 10+ tds than any RB not named Tomlinson or Portis, just look at what Herm did with C-Mart

Portis has 1710 carries, so,by your standards, Portis is washed up then, correct?!

Before you go overboard with the , look at the numbers for LJ and Portis a little more closely. Yes, LJ has only 1,050 career carries, but almost 90% of those came in a 3 year period when he was a starter ('05 - '07). Portis' 1,710 carries have been over 6 years, with his last 3 totaling 804 carries to LJ's 910.

Is it a huge discrepancy? Certainly worth considering that LJ has put on a lot more mileage in a much shorter period of time.

 

[ImTheScientist]

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.

Its not good to get into the habit of predicting injuries. I saw someone else compare LT and Alexander....seriously ... Alexander is not even in LT's league. Anyone who skips LT @ 1.1 is crazy and trying to predict injury. His play did not drop off one bit last year.

 

[Big Score]

Steven Jackson. The longer he holds out, the more likely he is to get injured.

Of course last year he didn't hold out, yet he missed several games (4) due to injury.3 years ago he didn't hold out, yet he missed a game due to injury & left other games early because of injury.4 years ago he didn't hold out, yet he missed some games (2) due to injury even though only a part time player with Faulk still there.To me, considering that he has missed games in 3 out of his 4 NFL seasons, hold out or no hold out, the chances of him getting injured seem pretty high. He is a RB that I'll be passing on.

 

[thehornet]

stayiny away from the following:

jacobs: to much comp in that backfield. BJ has a tendency to get knowcked up.

roddy white: he's got talent, but look where he plays. A potential rookie qb all year doesnt spell success for receivers.

turner: pretty much the same reasons as roddy. not to mention the falcons just really arent any goodright now.

maroney: love this guy, but BB is just to unpredicatable with who gets the rock on any given week.

jennings: owned this guy in my keep league up until this year. I do think he has talent but it resides more in the wr3 to 4 range. he cartainly cannot sustain his td rate per catch. It simply isnt possible, especially without favre. most his ff points came from td's and they have nowhere to go but down.

mjd: whereas i think this guy has immense talent, he just won't get a full workload with taylor around. people might want to call him fragile, but he sure has been around awhile and is still very much effective.

portis: this guy has a huge workload under his belt already and he'll be 28 at the start . Over 1700 carries! I really cannot understand why any other RB approaching 30 or at 30 with this many carries gets knocked so much for his age and workload, but portis escapes that school of thought because he is a tad younger.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

It seems like every single RB outside the top 10 has made this list.

Are there any RB2's actually worth drafting?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Willis McGahee

Reggie Bush

QB's ranked 1-6 by most

Antonio Gates

Andre Johnson

Roy Williams

Edge James

 

[baconisgood]

Earnest Graham - I will virtually wager my paycheck that Graham doesn't reach 10 rushing TDs again this season. The Bucs offense is aging and it won't be long before Cadillac Williams returns to the huddle. Throw in Warrick Dunn and it's just too unlikely that Graham will finish anywhere near where he did last year.

Cadillac Williams and Warrick Dunn are your concerns? Dunn was one of the worst RBs in football last year has averaged 4 rushing TDs a year for his career and is 33. Hes not a threat to take Graham's carries, TD or otherwise. Cadillac wasn't good before he tore his patella, his rookie year was a solid (not great) preformance, his second year a massive disappointment and the games he played in last year prior to his injury he wasn't great either. Hes likely to be PUPed to begin this year and hes an underdog to recover to full strength from his injury. I'm not worried about those two.Graham should be what he was last year, a solid back who can add to his value in the passing game getting the bulk of the carries behind a solid o-line. ---------As a Browns fan I'm wondering what you guys think is wrong with Jamal Lewis. Hes got a top level line in front of him, enough passing threats to keep 8 out of the box, no depth to steal carries and will get goal line touches. I guess his two concerns are a harder schedule and his age. Anything else?---------------

sorry,but the 400+ carry season of 2006 had NOTHING to do with his freak injury last year.. fantasy football myth, 101

Love guys like you, keep snatching up beat up backs because you don't understand physiology. Its hard to figure though, you don't think use correlates to injury risk? Bodies have limits and bodies need recovery time. If you think its just total carries over a career do yourself a favor, next time you work out push as hard as you can, and figure out how much longer it takes you to recover to normal form than from a moderate workout. Or just read FOs curse of 370.

 

[benbadman]

Some players in the top 50 (well of the FBG magazine at my fingertips) that I would probably pass on and let someone else select:

8. Randy Moss - If he only has ~12 TDs that's really not worth a mid first round pick IMO.

12. Willis McGahee - bad team + knee scope.... i will probably look to snag Ray Rice in alot of leagues though

13. Tom Brady - (yea he's probably more like top5 in most drafts, which makes NOT drafting him even easier-- i prefer to wait on QB and select 2-3 guys that can *outperform* their draft position, not justify it with a 28-30td season)

17. Ryan Grant - i'm just not sure he's an elite talent, prove it to me this season then in 2009 i might draft him--- also would rather grab an elite WR than grant

22. Reggie Bush - unless its PPR

24. Ronnie Brown - ah my favorite 1st round pick from 2006 FF.. im still a hater and the injury justifies my doubts

29. FWP - not sure he's more than a RB3 spot starter now, not exactly a guy to build your 'fantasy team's core' around

33. Earnest Graham - another 1 season wonder? I dont really like any Tampa players for FF outside of late picks on Garcia as a qb2/qb3 & their defense for a 2nd DEF

38. Brandon Marshall - this guy is talented and im a Broncos fan, but he's going to implode... too risky for my tastes

41. Antonio Gates - this might be his token 'off year' in his future Hall of Fame career.

47. Roy Williams - ill take Roy as a WR3, but not as a guy I rely upon to anchor my starting lineup at WR2.

 

[bostonfred]

Earnest Graham - I will virtually wager my paycheck that Graham doesn't reach 10 rushing TDs again this season. The Bucs offense is aging and it won't be long before Cadillac Williams returns to the huddle. Throw in Warrick Dunn and it's just too unlikely that Graham will finish anywhere near where he did last year.

Cadillac Williams and Warrick Dunn are your concerns? Dunn was one of the worst RBs in football last year has averaged 4 rushing TDs a year for his career and is 33. Hes not a threat to take Graham's carries, TD or otherwise. Cadillac wasn't good before he tore his patella, his rookie year was a solid (not great) preformance, his second year a massive disappointment and the games he played in last year prior to his injury he wasn't great either. Hes likely to be PUPed to begin this year and hes an underdog to recover to full strength from his injury. I'm not worried about those two.Graham should be what he was last year, a solid back who can add to his value in the passing game getting the bulk of the carries behind a solid o-line. ---------As a Browns fan I'm wondering what you guys think is wrong with Jamal Lewis. Hes got a top level line in front of him, enough passing threats to keep 8 out of the box, no depth to steal carries and will get goal line touches. I guess his two concerns are a harder schedule and his age. Anything else?---------------

sorry,but the 400+ carry season of 2006 had NOTHING to do with his freak injury last year.. fantasy football myth, 101

Love guys like you, keep snatching up beat up backs because you don't understand physiology. Its hard to figure though, you don't think use correlates to injury risk? Bodies have limits and bodies need recovery time. If you think its just total carries over a career do yourself a favor, next time you work out push as hard as you can, and figure out how much longer it takes you to recover to normal form than from a moderate workout. Or just read FOs curse of 370.

I had a sick workout this past January. It was really tough. I'm not sore at all today, though.

 

[puckalicious]

Steven Jackson. The longer he holds out, the more likely he is to get injured.

I think you meant to post in the FFL Myths thread.

 

[Angry Beavers]

LJ - not worth where he is going

S. Jax - the holdout is starting to concern me

D. Anderson - he struggles ( comparatively) the 2nd half of last year, and Quinn is lurking in the shadows should

the Browns fail to meet expectations

LT - he has to breakdown at some point

AP - his running style will cause him to be continually dinged

MBIII - See AP -

That does not mean I think that these guys will all be busts, just means I see no value in taking them where they are being drafted

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Peyton Manning

Larry Johnson

Willis McGahee

Selvin Young

Minny Defense

Reggie Bush

Any rookie in the top 5 rounds

 

[eoMMan]

How about Edge in the 6th round of a 12 team league??? Would you take him there??

IMO, he's a great pick in the 6th round.However, I wouldn't call him a top 10 RB or a "highly ranked player".

 

[eoMMan]

As you can see, you can find a knock on almost every guy in the top 30 rankings. Every guy has his positives/negatives.

 

[baconisgood]

Earnest Graham - I will virtually wager my paycheck that Graham doesn't reach 10 rushing TDs again this season. The Bucs offense is aging and it won't be long before Cadillac Williams returns to the huddle. Throw in Warrick Dunn and it's just too unlikely that Graham will finish anywhere near where he did last year.

Cadillac Williams and Warrick Dunn are your concerns? Dunn was one of the worst RBs in football last year has averaged 4 rushing TDs a year for his career and is 33. Hes not a threat to take Graham's carries, TD or otherwise. Cadillac wasn't good before he tore his patella, his rookie year was a solid (not great) preformance, his second year a massive disappointment and the games he played in last year prior to his injury he wasn't great either. Hes likely to be PUPed to begin this year and hes an underdog to recover to full strength from his injury. I'm not worried about those two.Graham should be what he was last year, a solid back who can add to his value in the passing game getting the bulk of the carries behind a solid o-line. ---------As a Browns fan I'm wondering what you guys think is wrong with Jamal Lewis. Hes got a top level line in front of him, enough passing threats to keep 8 out of the box, no depth to steal carries and will get goal line touches. I guess his two concerns are a harder schedule and his age. Anything else?---------------

sorry,but the 400+ carry season of 2006 had NOTHING to do with his freak injury last year.. fantasy football myth, 101

Love guys like you, keep snatching up beat up backs because you don't understand physiology. Its hard to figure though, you don't think use correlates to injury risk? Bodies have limits and bodies need recovery time. If you think its just total carries over a career do yourself a favor, next time you work out push as hard as you can, and figure out how much longer it takes you to recover to normal form than from a moderate workout. Or just read FOs curse of 370.

I had a sick workout this past January. It was really tough. I'm not sore at all today, though.

Did you have the sickest workout of your life once a week for 16/17 weeks with practice in between? The point is that LJ had a grueling year at what is already a grueling position.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Jackson -- 4 years, 1 top 10 finish, and now a holdout. Pass.Gore -- A 49er offensive player in the 1st round? Not a chance. Unless it's someone like Bryant Johnson as a WR4/5, I want no part of that mess, Martz or no Martz.Jones-Drew -- way too dependent on TDs for my taste.Jacobs -- this talk of the Giants "playing the hot hand" week to week does not sit well.Maroney -- just way too many mouths to feed there (RB and otherwise), and too much variation in the gameplan week-to-week.Lewis -- just can't get past the fact this guy had his owners pulling their hair out two years in a row in 05 and 06.Graham -- not sold on him, or TB.Turner -- I'll let someone else make a strong buy into that offense.Brown -- way too many red flags. A Johnson -- way too prominent in the injury news already.Burress -- see A Johnson.Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams -- I'll let someone else overpay for two guys that will fight for a not-so-big pie. Williams has been WR29, WR30, WR10, and WR33 in 4 years.Targets:LT, Westy, and Portis at their round 1 ADPs.LJ in the second will be good value.McGahee in the 3rd could be a steal. OLine is more of a concern than the knee or Rice.I like spending a late 2nd on Manning, or a 3/4 on Romo/Brees/Palmer, or even Roth. I see real separation from the next tier.Parker, Jones as strong RB2s available in the late 3rd or 4th.

I didnt want this post to go unnoticed. Agree with most here dave, and thanks especially for explaining your rationale. Im taking notes, here.

 

[Jambi]

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.Gore Gore is a joke. Why do people continue to attach his name to a mid 1st round pick? Moss - Will be going way too high. Now I wouldn't say I want no part of him but his ADP will be way too high for me to grab him.Steve Smith - His magical days are behind him. I'm not all that excited about anyone this year..

about your reasoning on all of theses picks.

Either you can't read or you have brain damage. I've seen your posts before and I'm going to say it's a combination of both. I'm not going to argue with you. So just do me a favor. Listen to what I have to say, this thread and come back and thank me later after you're cashing an imaginary check from your 10 team free yahoo league.

LT - Will be lucky to crack the top 5 RBs. History has taught us that a RB can not keep up top production year after year. He should have dropped up significantly last year. We saw more then a few glimpses of what he's going to show us this year. He's lost it.

Its not good to get into the habit of predicting injuries. I saw someone else compare LT and Alexander....seriously ... Alexander is not even in LT's league. Anyone who skips LT @ 1.1 is crazy and trying to predict injury. His play did not drop off one bit last year.

Who predicted injury?