Hines Ward busted for DUI (1 Viewer)

[omally]

Who said he was drunk? In this country nowadays, a pretty good buzz can often put you over the legal limit.

0.08 is not even that great of a buzz.

For you maybe not, but for many they are very impaired with that level in their system.

 

[therokie0070]

Just saw it on SportsCenter.I get the feeling that he's getting tired of football. Last year with the Steelers?

Because of the DUI?If he is losing interest in the game, this is completely unrelated unless you want to draw some far fetched, loosely constructed conclusion based on timing in his career...Drinking and driving is VERY common. You can go to jail for DUI after having 3 drinks.Non-issue

Less than three drinks. You don't even have to blow a positive test. You just have to have the suspision of being drunk. While it's common, it doesn't make it close to acceptable. It should not be brushed aside.

So, what are you suggesting? Something that is widely accepted as normal, should show some huge problem for Ward? He made a mistake, not an uncommon mistake, and a mistake that likely more than half of our population has made. Some here will read into it and made some prediction though right? It means very little when it comes to ff...

Tell that to a father who just lost his family to a "very common" drunk driver!!! How the hell can you justify his actions he should be suspended min of four games, reports said he clearly failed the sobriety test and could not even say the alphabet!!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Just saw it on SportsCenter.I get the feeling that he's getting tired of football. Last year with the Steelers?

Because of the DUI?If he is losing interest in the game, this is completely unrelated unless you want to draw some far fetched, loosely constructed conclusion based on timing in his career...Drinking and driving is VERY common. You can go to jail for DUI after having 3 drinks.Non-issue

Less than three drinks. You don't even have to blow a positive test. You just have to have the suspision of being drunk. While it's common, it doesn't make it close to acceptable. It should not be brushed aside.

So, what are you suggesting? Something that is widely accepted as normal, should show some huge problem for Ward? He made a mistake, not an uncommon mistake, and a mistake that likely more than half of our population has made. Some here will read into it and made some prediction though right? It means very little when it comes to ff...

Tell that to a father who just lost his family to a "very common" drunk driver!!! How the hell can you justify his actions he should be suspended min of four games, reports said he clearly failed the sobriety test and could not even say the alphabet!!

First of all, Hines Ward didn't kill anyone's family.A previous poster suggested that this means Ward is loosing interest in football. I suggested that it was just a mistake, a VERY COMMON MISTAKE, and doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Also I'd wager that it will not draw a suspension, or have any FF impact.You're trying to paint me as an advocate to drunk driving. I never said drinking and driving is ok, I said it was common, and accepted as normal to a degree. And for that reason, I don't think Ward is a bad person.Based on previous incidents, NFL rulings, Ward will not be suspended.Be outraged all you want, just don't aim that at me, build your straw man elsewhere..

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.

Also..... @ Servo.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

 

[belljr]

Well, it's his second "incident" this offseason

1st, he was pulled over with someone in Cali ....that someone was another woman, and not his wife.Now, he has an alleged DUI.

May not mean a darn thing....OTOH, maybe there is some personal problems brewing.

He's not married and that was a non incident... the girl reported the car stolen but but forgot to cancel the report when she figured out where her car was.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

You need a new lawyer. You don't ever want to give evidence if you are not made to do so.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

You need a new lawyer. You don't ever want to give evidence if you are not made to do so.

Unless not giving evidence causes you to catch another charge, or loose your license anyway.Or if you're not really drunk, blowing could get you off the hook if your levels are below the max...You might not want to be giving legal advice...BTW, 2 lawyers have actually told me this. 1 of them is the best lawyer in Union County NC, the other one is the best known DUI attorney in Mecklenburg county NC.. I think I'm going to take their advice over some pizza delivery guy...

 

[gianmarco]

loose vs lose

You may want to check out the difference.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

You need a new lawyer. You don't ever want to give evidence if you are not made to do so.

Unless not giving evidence causes you to catch another charge, or loose your license anyway.Or if you're not really drunk, blowing could get you off the hook if your levels are below the max...You might not want to be giving legal advice...BTW, 2 lawyers have actually told me this. 1 of them is the best lawyer in Union County NC, the other one is the best known DUI attorney in Mecklenburg county NC.. I think I'm going to take their advice over some pizza delivery guy...

What other charge would you be incurring by refusing to blow? With the limits being so low, if there is a doubt in your mind that you are over the limit then you probably are and your license is gone anyway, not blowing will at least give you a fighting chance in court. The least you say and do the better. Your lawyers are giving you bad advice.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

no BAC measurement.

Does this join you and Servo as champions of drunk driving, so long as there is no failed BAC test (that he reportedly refused)?

No. Does this make you a champion of bad conclusions?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

You need a new lawyer. You don't ever want to give evidence if you are not made to do so.

Unless not giving evidence causes you to catch another charge, or loose your license anyway.Or if you're not really drunk, blowing could get you off the hook if your levels are below the max...You might not want to be giving legal advice...BTW, 2 lawyers have actually told me this. 1 of them is the best lawyer in Union County NC, the other one is the best known DUI attorney in Mecklenburg county NC.. I think I'm going to take their advice over some pizza delivery guy...

What other charge would you be incurring by refusing to blow? With the limits being so low, if there is a doubt in your mind that you are over the limit then you probably are and your license is gone anyway, not blowing will at least give you a fighting chance in court. The least you say and do the better. Your lawyers are giving you bad advice.

In NC, if you don't blow, regardless of whether or not you win against the DUI in court, you lose your license for a year. First time DUI offenders lose their license for a year. So, if you do blow, and you blow under, or your lawyer beats them on a technicality, you keep your license. If you don't blow, you automatically lose your license, and chance catching the charge anyway.These lawyers are the best around. They know the system. Not sure what you do, but I'm sure they know the system better than you. No offense intended..

 

[cobalt_27]

no BAC measurement.

Does this join you and Servo as champions of drunk driving, so long as there is no failed BAC test (that he reportedly refused)?

No. Does this make you a champion of bad conclusions?

Oh my bad. I should have added the part where it's ok to drink and drive ESPECIALLY if you can jam a middle finger in their face in lieu of taking the BAC test. Cause that's such a solid play. Totally exonerates you.You're right, my conclusion was incomplete. Hope it's clarified better here.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

no BAC measurement.

Does this join you and Servo as champions of drunk driving, so long as there is no failed BAC test (that he reportedly refused)?

No. Does this make you a champion of bad conclusions?

Oh my bad. I should have added the part where it's ok to drink and drive ESPECIALLY if you can jam a middle finger in their face in lieu of taking the BAC test. Cause that's such a solid play. Totally exonerates you.You're right, my conclusion was incomplete. Hope it's clarified better here.

That a way to read between the lines there Bro!!.. Give him the bidness!!This Thread has become fairly entertaining

 

[Chester Copperpot]

no BAC measurement.

Does this join you and Servo as champions of drunk driving, so long as there is no failed BAC test (that he reportedly refused)?

No. Does this make you a champion of bad conclusions?

Oh my bad. I should have added the part where it's ok to drink and drive ESPECIALLY if you can jam a middle finger in their face in lieu of taking the BAC test. Cause that's such a solid play. Totally exonerates you.You're right, my conclusion was incomplete. Hope it's clarified better here.

You just went from bad conclusion to laughably bad conclusion. what will come next?

 

[B-Deep]

maybe hines just has trouble with his letters

 

[PatsFanCT]

Or, you know, it could just be some good ole boy looking to take a brother down.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/10/hines-ward-arrested-dui-drinking-dancing-with-the-stars-pittsburgh-steelers-dekalb-county-georgia/

Witnesses at two different Georgia bars tell TMZ ... they spotted Hines Ward just hours before he was arrested for DUI ... and they all say the "DWTS" champ showed no signs of being drunk.

TMZ spoke with employees and patrons at two places -- Oasis Gentleman's Club and Buckhead Bottle Bar & Restaurant.

A witness at Oasis (an establishment where young ladies work to put themselves through nursing school) tells TMZ ... Hines was not drinking heavily, did not want to be bothered, and seemed genuinely "disinterested." The witness said Ward was only there from 9-10:00 PM.

The lovely young lady who answered the phone at Oasis confirmed she saw Ward that night.

And another witness says he saw Ward at the Buckhead Bottle Bar. A waiter there tells TMZ Hines was at the bar for a few hours, but only had one or two drinks. The employee said Hines was super nice, not drunk at all, and did not appear to have any problems walking or talking.

The waiter says Ward left at around 1:30 AM. He was popped for DUI approximately four miles away, an hour later.

Ward maintains he was not impaired by alcohol at the time he was arrested.

But carry on with your Ward/Steelers hate...

So all the employees of the multiple bars he drank in, who served a drunk guy, covered their asses by saying he wasn't drunk? That's probably never been done before.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Looks to me as if he was guilty. He did the smart thing by not taking the breathalyzer. Any lawyer will tell you if you are ever in doubt don't take it. He will probably end up with a reckless op or some such lesser charge. I don't know if that warrants a suspension or not.

Also..... @ Servo.

I've had a lawyer tell me that the only time you shouldn't take the breathalyzer is if you've been convicted already several times and are looking at jail time. Otherwise, you are likely to be convicted of the DUI anyway, and even if you aren't, you still loose your license for a year for refusing to blow. Loose your license for a year either way. That's the way it was explained to me...

You need a new lawyer. You don't ever want to give evidence if you are not made to do so.

Unless not giving evidence causes you to catch another charge, or loose your license anyway.

Or if you're not really drunk, blowing could get you off the hook if your levels are below the max...

You might not want to be giving legal advice...

BTW, 2 lawyers have actually told me this. 1 of them is the best lawyer in Union County NC, the other one is the best known DUI attorney in Mecklenburg county NC.. I think I'm going to take their advice over some pizza delivery guy...

I know a lot, if not most states, have enacted laws that make it worse for the driver to refuse to take the breathalyzer, than to take it and blow over the limit. Personally, I think these laws are outrageous. If you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a driver was impaired without the aid of BAC results, then there's no justifiable reason to convict the driver of a DUI, imo. I think the charge should be dropped to reckless driving or something less in such cases.

Also, these breathalyzers are one of the biggest scams going. They're very innacurate. And it's possible for people with certain health issues to blow over the limit despite literally having zero drinks.

 

[Ghost Rider]

So all the employees of the multiple bars he drank in, who served a drunk guy, covered their asses by saying he wasn't drunk? That's probably never been done before.

Haha, exactly. If someone gets drunk at a bar and goes out kills someone with their car, guess who else is getting blamed (besides the drunk person)? The place that served the drunk driver.

 

[PatsFanCT]

The waiter says Ward left at around 1:30 AM. He was popped for DUI approximately four miles away, an hour later. Ward maintains he was not impaired by alcohol at the time he was arrested.

Aha, the smoking gun! It took him an hour to drive four miles. He wasn't just drunk, but stoned as well.