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Hog Screech! (1 Viewer)

rizzler

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Cuz Hogs are so much more delicious than Hawks.

Make sure you snaggle these bad boys on as many rosters as you can, and let the bacon sizzle allll season long!

QB

Ryan Fitzpatrick - started last season HOT against KC, OAK and NE. Wavered midseason (where he was apparently hurt) and rode a decent hot streak to close the season. Averaging as a 13th round pick, this guy is a steal with a hugely revamped Defense which will likely create more turnovers and better field position. A good variety of weapons at a ridiculously low price. BUY NOW

RB

Peyton Hillis - Not the prettiest RB, but the boy has powerrrrrrrr. Charles is a phenomenal back on his way back from a major injury. Prior to the knee explosion, Charles was never getting the rock enough as is. Add a capable back into the mix, a la Hillis, who can more than adequately take over where T Jones left off and you got yourself a nice little pick in the 6th round.

LeGarrette Blount - Here's why Started in 2010, and sticking to it in 2012. ADP of 8.11, count me in

WR

3 in 1: Stevie Johnson, Pierre garcon, Torrey Smith - all are the primary WR targets on squads with more than capable QBs, being taken anywhere from the 6th-8th rounds. Criminally undervalued, all these boys have High End WR2 potential. Id be more than thrilled to have a starting WR corps of just these 3 guys. Yup, I said it.

I'll avoid TE, because there is insane value everywhere at the TE position. I've stated more than once my desire to have an elite TE in Graham (not so much Gronk), but if not, Im holding tight and scooping a Fred Davis or waiting even longer for one of the handful of great values.

SUPREME VALUE PICKS: Vincent Brown and Brandon LaFell

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:lmao: Like all the play besides Fitz, hes mediocre. Garçon in a top 15-20 Wr in ppr for me. He's the type of Wr that will do well with rg3
 
Love the HOGS label. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooo Pigggggggggggggggggg Sooooooooooooooooiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Your choice of Peyton Hillis is especially perfect for this thread!

 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.

he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.

When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.

Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.

 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
I don't fully disagree, but for arguments sake, his ADP has only moved up ONE round from one month ago. I thought it would have been more, but as of today, only one round. Thing is, the longer we wait to draft, and perhaps the more he shows in preseason, his value will likely tumble. But as of today, as a 6th round back, Ill jump on it... of course depending on who else is available.In fact, the LOWEST he's been drafted is 8.03 on FFC
 
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I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
 
Love the WRs and I only hope the preseason doesn't upset their ADP. Garcon's visible belly fire had already had him creeping up in mocks. Saw him go in the fifth just this morning over at FF Calc. Wouldn't be surprised to see him continue to rise.

Hog sound.

 
Like the schtick. Like the picks. :thumbup:

I'm a sucker for top WR's on perceived to be bad offenses. Hell, I'll even take a flyer on Bess this year.

Fitz isn't even going as a top backup. To be able to nab him as a second tier backup QB is a nice luxury.

 
Shouldn't this be "squeal" instead of "screech" since we're talking about hogs?

Also, do "hogs" skip their first couple of draft selections like "hawks" do?

:)

 
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The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Why wouldn't you compare to the 2010 Chiefs when Thomas Jones was the starter and had more carries than Charles and JC was still a top-5 back? There's nothing in Charles history to indicate he can handle a heavier workload. He was hurt in KC's playoff game that year and was obviously out last year. I can't imagine they're suddenly going to think that giving him a significantly heavier workload is a good move,
 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Charles has never had a full workload. There is a reason for that.
 
:thumbup: for Fitzpatrick and Garcon. :thumbdown: for screech threads. Last year's was the kiss of death. Sorry Otis.
Some guy took Garcon in the 4rth yesterday. He may go earlier than you expect. I like him too.
Dang, not quite Julio Jones like, but Garcon is getting a lot of love all of a sudden.
He should've been getting it to start with.Feed piggies, feed!!! get them 'cheap' while the gettin' is good!
 
'duaneok66 said:
'Shutout said:
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Charles has never had a full workload. There is a reason for that.
Yes there was a reason for that and he's no longer the Chiefs head coach. That said, I still think Hillis is a value pick at his current ADP.
 
'Zackattack said:
'LawFitz said:
:thumbup: for Fitzpatrick and Garcon. :thumbdown: for screech threads. Last year's was the kiss of death. Sorry Otis.
Some guy took Garcon in the 4rth yesterday. He may go earlier than you expect. I like him too.
here are some recent mfl 10 buck drafts on garcon --- the first few are from the last couple days7.03, 7.02, 6.01, 5.08, 7.06, 8.05, 8.12, 7.08, 7.01, 8.02, 8.01, 7.04, 6.12
 
'Zackattack said:
'LawFitz said:
:thumbup: for Fitzpatrick and Garcon. :thumbdown: for screech threads. Last year's was the kiss of death. Sorry Otis.
Some guy took Garcon in the 4rth yesterday. He may go earlier than you expect. I like him too.
here are some recent mfl 10 buck drafts on garcon --- the first few are from the last couple days7.03, 7.02, 6.01, 5.08, 7.06, 8.05, 8.12, 7.08, 7.01, 8.02, 8.01, 7.04, 6.12
I'm Kim Kardashian Oinking allllllll over that!!!!!!!
 
Shouldn't this be "squeal" instead of "screech" since we're talking about hogs? Also, do "hogs" skip their first couple of draft selections like "hawks" do? :)
Of course they don't. They don't have anywhere near the confidence that the Hawks do. Cheap, bacon-wrapped knock-offs imo
 
Shouldn't this be "squeal" instead of "screech" since we're talking about hogs?

Also, do "hogs" skip their first couple of draft selections like "hawks" do?

:)
Of course they don't. They don't have anywhere near the confidence that the Hawks do. Cheap, bacon-wrapped knock-offs imo
It is an absolute honor to have Otis swoop in and plant his talons firmly into this thread. :thumbup: As for whether or not we skip our first few selections... Never. A hog never shies away from a meal.

We draft kickers and defenses the first 4 rounds, then feast of the harvest of value.

Hawks...? They're lean cuz they can't find themselves a fantasy meal!

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Cuz Hogs are so much more delicious than Hawks.

Make sure you snaggle these bad boys on as many rosters as you can, and let the bacon sizzle allll season long!

QB

Ryan Fitzpatrick - started last season HOT against KC, OAK and NE. Wavered midseason (where he was apparently hurt) and rode a decent hot streak to close the season. Averaging as a 13th round pick, this guy is a steal with a hugely revamped Defense which will likely create more turnovers and better field position. A good variety of weapons at a ridiculously low price. BUY NOW

RB

Peyton Hillis - Not the prettiest RB, but the boy has powerrrrrrrr. Charles is a phenomenal back on his way back from a major injury. Prior to the knee explosion, Charles was never getting the rock enough as is. Add a capable back into the mix, a la Hillis, who can more than adequately take over where T Jones left off and you got yourself a nice little pick in the 6th round.

LeGarrette Blount - Here's why Started in 2010, and sticking to it in 2012. ADP of 8.11, count me in

WR

3 in 1: Stevie Johnson, Pierre garcon, Torrey Smith - all are the primary WR targets on squads with more than capable QBs, being taken anywhere from the 6th-8th rounds. Criminally undervalued, all these boys have High End WR2 potential. Id be more than thrilled to have a starting WR corps of just these 3 guys. Yup, I said it.

I'll avoid TE, because there is insane value everywhere at the TE position. I've stated more than once my desire to have an elite TE in Graham (not so much Gronk), but if not, Im holding tight and scooping a Fred Davis or waiting even longer for one of the handful of great values.

SUPREME VALUE PICKS: Vincent Brown and Brandon LaFell

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:goodposting: Impressive Rizzler LOL

and I'm not even talking about the players! I like most of those also... your giving away all the guys I want to draft!

 
'duaneok66 said:
'Shutout said:
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Charles has never had a full workload. There is a reason for that.
Yes there was a reason for that and he's no longer the Chiefs head coach. That said, I still think Hillis is a value pick at his current ADP.
knew that was coming. Incorrect answer.
 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Charles has never had a full workload. There is a reason for that.
Yes there was a reason for that and he's no longer the Chiefs head coach. That said, I still think Hillis is a value pick at his current ADP.
ADP up to 5.07 in standard 12 team
 
QB

Ryan Fitzpatrick - started last season HOT against KC, OAK and NE. Wavered midseason (where he was apparently hurt) and rode a decent hot streak to close the season. Averaging as a 13th round pick, this guy is a steal with a hugely revamped Defense which will likely create more turnovers and better field position. A good variety of weapons at a ridiculously low price. BUY NOW

WR

3 in 1: Stevie Johnson
Get out of my head.
 
I think the scales are tipped on Hillis and that its actually starting to go the other way.he's become a very hot topic lately and probably its too far now. People are now talking of him as being a guy with 250 carries and top teen finish, etc. I don't see it, barring a long-term setback/injury to Charles.When you have a clearly top-talented back on a team and are in anything closely resulting in a time share, you can't get that type of production. The Giants have had a very good Ahmad Bradshaw sharing with Jacobs and sprinkling in insignifcant touches at other points and even the lead back in this case has been lucky to sniff what is now being tossed out there for Hillis.Had you said this two months ago and I was drafting then, I would be on board, relative to where I could have gotten him then but draftign today or in the future, the "value" of that particular player is quickly eroding as his ADP is being adjusted.
The Giants are a bad comparison. Hillis is more suited to handle a heavier workload than Charles. I think 250 carries is well within his reach.
The Giants are a generous example. Comparing Bradshaw/Jacobs to Charles/Hillis helps Hillis as much as possible. In general, you have to get this in your mind: If Charles is healthy, he's every bit as capable as a healthy DMAC, Matthews, FORTE, etc. Those teams don't time share their players. In general, NFL teams don't time-share truly elite RBs. If Charles is healthy, Hillis' chances could easily be a Ben tate role, A Gerhardt role. We know the backups are capable and maybe better than some starters...but standing behind guys like Foster, Charles, Peterson, etc, you MUST account for how much opportunity is actually going to be there and you have to extend it to reality, not just what a team says in APril-June. Teams say one thing all the time and then quickly find they can not deny what is on the field when the bullets fly.
Charles has never had a full workload. There is a reason for that.
Yes there was a reason for that and he's no longer the Chiefs head coach. That said, I still think Hillis is a value pick at his current ADP.
yeah, i can't predict injuries or why a HC did something and all that. I was just saying, in general, that I thought the ADP was moving up and the value of Hillis was eroding (And I think that is continuing...he's not the "secreT" he was two months ago") and that overall people have to prepare themselves for the possibility that, with a talent like charles, regardless if he has missed time or not been used in a certain way before, that you could very well draft Hillis and have Ben Tate 2.0 sitting on your bench...waiting for an injury. Of course, i expect Hillis to get more run than Tate, given all players are healthy, but not enough to make him a "value" in round 4 or 5 or wherever he creeps up to. Two months ago I could have snagged him in the 7+th round and that WOULD have been value, but not now.
 
Dorin Dickerson is eligible as a RB, WR and TE. That represents great value for my Yahoo leagues. I will look to draft him in the 14th round.

 
QB

Ryan Fitzpatrick - started last season HOT against KC, OAK and NE. Wavered midseason (where he was apparently hurt) and rode a decent hot streak to close the season. Averaging as a 13th round pick, this guy is a steal with a hugely revamped Defense which will likely create more turnovers and better field position. A good variety of weapons at a ridiculously low price. BUY NOW

WR

3 in 1: Stevie Johnson
Get out of my head.
But it's so warm in there :excited:
 
Some pretty nice hits in here after 3 weeks... :thumbup:

A couple 'misses' that still may pan out in a few weeks time (especially Blount)

Good work Rizz, you're a goblin!

OINK OINK

 
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folks are really hating on my Hog Screech team? What more do you want from some borderline picks?

I guess taking a few chances on picks is frowned upon here.

 
folks are really hating on my Hog Screech team? What more do you want from some borderline picks?I guess taking a few chances on picks is frowned upon here.
HAh! you done good Rizz, well, at least partially. your RBs are rough but everything else is looking to be spot oneither way... you had the kahones to put it in writing, nice work
 
Clearly the picks are way better than Otis'. The shtick, not so much, although the hawk thing is getting tired.

 

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