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I never watched 24. Can you compare the two for me? Are they similar in style or is Homeland a litte more grown up? It always seemed to me that 24 was just an action packed thrill ride, whereas Homeland might be a little more intelligent.
Just going on what I've heard about 24, with nothing to back it up. Curious to hear how they compare, or not.
The two showrunners of this show Howard Gordon and Alex Ganza, were big parts of 24 so they have that in their DNA. The show did a real good job season 1 not falling into 24's action packed style of shootem up and when things go wrong and every 6 or so episodes featured a Bad Guy and when he was killed a newer Bad Guy even bigger then him etc..For all the logical leaps of Homeland season 1 (an American POW could be turned into a terrorist) the show was grounded in reality and was completely believable at least to me. 24 was a very entertaining show but got stale after a few season of repeating same plot devices (mole each season, Good guys turn bad etc...)Homeland for sure has some of the DNA of 24 but is well written and more brains then 24's brawn.I never watched 24. Can you compare the two for me? Are they similar in style or is Homeland a litte more grown up? It always seemed to me that 24 was just an action packed thrill ride, whereas Homeland might be a little more intelligent.
I agree with this. The later seasons of 24 were really just more over the top than usual over the top 24nessThe two showrunners of this show Howard Gordon and Alex Ganza, were big parts of 24 so they have that in their DNA. The show did a real good job season 1 not falling into 24's action packed style of shootem up and when things go wrong and every 6 or so episodes featured a Bad Guy and when he was killed a newer Bad Guy even bigger then him etc..For all the logical leaps of Homeland season 1 (an American POW could be turned into a terrorist) the show was grounded in reality and was completely believable at least to me. 24 was a very entertaining show but got stale after a few season of repeating same plot devices (mole each season, Good guys turn bad etc...)Homeland for sure has some of the DNA of 24 but is well written and more brains then 24's brawn.I never watched 24. Can you compare the two for me? Are they similar in style or is Homeland a litte more grown up? It always seemed to me that 24 was just an action packed thrill ride, whereas Homeland might be a little more intelligent.
I think they can survive without Brody. It'll be difficult, but these writers are more than up to the task.Again, the original plan was to kill Brody at the end of S1 anyway.
That's what I thought, thanks for the breakdown.The two showrunners of this show Howard Gordon and Alex Ganza, were big parts of 24 so they have that in their DNA. The show did a real good job season 1 not falling into 24's action packed style of shootem up and when things go wrong and every 6 or so episodes featured a Bad Guy and when he was killed a newer Bad Guy even bigger then him etc..For all the logical leaps of Homeland season 1 (an American POW could be turned into a terrorist) the show was grounded in reality and was completely believable at least to me. 24 was a very entertaining show but got stale after a few season of repeating same plot devices (mole each season, Good guys turn bad etc...)Homeland for sure has some of the DNA of 24 but is well written and more brains then 24's brawn.I never watched 24. Can you compare the two for me? Are they similar in style or is Homeland a litte more grown up? It always seemed to me that 24 was just an action packed thrill ride, whereas Homeland might be a little more intelligent.
I think that's the likely scenario, but I'm absolutely not certain.They just put Brody "on the clock" roughly 8 episodes before anybody thought they would. I wouldn't bet against them offing him 4-5 episodes before we all think they will.
I guess I am one of those who thinks there will not be much of a show without him.Not sure where they intended to go with S1 with him being written off.'pollardsvision said:
I have no idea, but clearly, they are going to try.The excitement of the Brody character is that we all know it will end, right? The took their foot off the pedal and didn't follow through in S1. Fine, and I'm mostly glad they did, but they can't get away with it again.
He flees the country and CIA chases after him while he bombs embassy's and riots in the streets..
Yeah, I think there's potential in a "Brody on the run" storyline. It's not like he'd be the first terrorist that the CIA couldn't catch. Though, I can't imagine they have the budget to do that for very long.He flees the country and CIA chases after him while he bombs embassy's and riots in the streets..
Yes.
That was kind of the theme for the last season of Sleeper Cell, another great showtime series. Even if they try and do something like that, I would still expect them to introduce a new charismatic secret enemyYeah, I think there's potential in a "Brody on the run" storyline. It's not like he'd be the first terrorist that the CIA couldn't catch. Though, I can't imagine they have the budget to do that for very long.He flees the country and CIA chases after him while he bombs embassy's and riots in the streets..
Yup a little slower of an episode but like you said hard to follow up those first two weeks with another topper. I was more suprised that Saul went right to Carries house and actually showed her the video. Was saying to the Mrs when Saul was bein held at the airport that it wasn't the video, and If he was any good at what he does he would have a backup or hid it somewhere else. For a moment I thought the knock on her door was going to be Brody and not Saul at the end. Well the cats out of the bag now, I guess we'll be tailing Brody and trying to get more evidence for his arrest, although I'm not sure how much more you need after that video. But they'll probably want take down his whole cell.And the pill scene was needed, because she was killing herself, and then the next scene she was redeemed. Pretty good stuff.
Maybe I was just getting impatient, but it felt unnecessarily long to me. Carrie's awesome. The scene was well done. But I'm just not sure we needed all that. With the reaction to the Estes giving her the boot, it shouldn't have taken much filming of Carrie at home being sad to get the point across. Now, I wouldn't have minded giving the tailor a little more screen time. The emotional turmoil and indecision he was going through was pretty awesome to watch.
That was pretty ridiculous.And you bring up a good point. It seems somewhat likely that Nazir tries to kill Brody.Clearly, they know he's been exposed. They just don't know how high up. They know Saul saw the video, which could be more than enough reason to off Brody.
yeah this episode was by far the first episode where I felt I was watching 24 again, not in terms of action but in terms of forcing the plot to go the way they want it to go without it feeling natural.First that stop at the security checkpoint of Saul. Yeah I know he outsmarted them with a copy but would they really think a CIA operative having gotten the data had not instantly sent it to Langley already? What if he just emailed the content to himself, thats all he needed to do.Also them making him drive to the dude was just crazy, and the sad part is, it wasnt even needed, there were so many things they could do with Brody, why send him off on a taxi mission, it wasn't even interesting to us viewers?Sad to see this show start falling apart before our eyes.
Do you know which network you are talking about? Weeds was critically hailed seasons 1 and 2, then they trodded out 6 more freaking seasons. Dexter was great at first then they went on and on and though its getting better now it has an 8th season ordered. Every other show that no one watches gets multiple seasons as well. You think the one show that finally won the Network some awards will go out after 2 seasons because the network cares about the quality? They will keep churning Homeland until at least season 7 with the plot then focusing on whether or not Carrie should eat Breakfast or lunch, or possibly a brunch at noon and Brody will be in Guantanamo leading a secret terror cell
I agree with this as well.
Isn't the whole point these people make these series to get picked up to eventually have several seasons?I get it that some series can seem to drag out more than needed but from their POV I don't get why they would take on starting a series if they figure lets just wrap this up in season 2.
It's possible that a show might voluntarily decide to pull the plug after a couple seasons. They did it with the British version of the Office. I can't really think of any American shows that have done it, though. There's too much money to be made when you've got a show that's successful.
I would like to see the show continue but the story of Brody must end this season. No reason they cant continue the series with a different story line.
Is suicide by pills/booze a nice easy way out? Like, drift off to sleep and never wake up?Or does it get ugly at the end with lots of convulsing and agony?Just for research purposes.
I hope not. Carrie coming on to him was the best scene ever. I want to see it again.
I understand this point, but it's not like 12 other terrorists said they couldnt do it because they were chilling in the diner and not helping the cause. Who else was gonna go and save Brody's cover? It's making him realize he's in way over his head and shouldn't be involved this deeply, stupidly running around trying to coverup. About to send him off the deep end.
I was just thinking about how bad she is. The scene where she tells her dad she is going home was laughable.
yeah youre probably right
