House of the dragon. Game on! (1 Viewer)

[beer 30]

Hey, lets dance!

 

[stbugs]

Hey, lets dance!

That was so confusing because it seemed like Daemon’s guys ran in (dark red and brown/black chest plate), but all that hub bub was just Sir Whatever killing the gay lover? Seemed like it was more than that. I think I get that he was going to kill himself but first killed the guys who knew about the affair.

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Should be fun, but even as a non-book reader, it’s damn obvious where it’s going. The teaser for next Sunday was a little much but I guess it helps explain the next time jump where it seems like nothing has changed except everyone is older.

 

[roadkill1292]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Not sure how many seasons they get out of this. Two or Three?

Unless they decide to just make the show the entire history of the Targs from this point up to Robert's Rebellion. Which would be cool.

 

[beer 30]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

Thought it was because it was an arranged marriage that he obviously wasn't on board with. Could be wrong as I tune some of that noise out.

 

[Capella]

Not sure how many seasons they get out of this. Two or Three?

Unless they decide to just make the show the entire history of the Targs from this point up to Robert's Rebellion. Which would be cool.

Read three seasons max

 

[E Street Brat]

Read three seasons max

They seem to be working fairly quickly at the pre-dance backstory.

For instance, and something I'm not sure of.
There was supposed to be a 10 tourney before the wedding. But it looked liked they got married post fight in a private ceremony,

Was that because of the fight? I seems they could have made an extra episode out of those 10 days. Instead we get a 10 year leap,
I'm not complaining, it just seems odd, and reminds me of when Martin said GOT had enough material for at least three more seasons.

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Guilty conscience, I think, I was yelling at the TV. No you fool. She's asking about uncle Daemon, and you just ratted yourself out.

 

[stbugs]

Read three seasons max

They seem to be working fairly quickly at the pre-dance backstory.

For instance, and something I'm not sure of.
There was supposed to be a 10 tourney before the wedding. But it looked liked they got married post fight in a private ceremony,

Was that because of the fight? I seems they could have made an extra episode out of those 10 days. Instead we get a 10 year leap,
I'm not complaining, it just seems odd, and reminds me of when Martin said GOT had enough material for at least three more seasons.

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Guilty conscience, I think, I was yelling at the TV. No you fool. She's asking about uncle Daemon, and you just ratted yourself out.

Me too, it was just so bad because you knew she’s dance around it and he’d blurt it out. It was like the horror movie where they decide to go in the basement. It had to happen but the way it did made me cringe.

 

[jamny]

Hey, lets dance!

That was so confusing because it seemed like Daemon’s guys ran in (dark red and brown/black chest plate), but all that hub bub was just Sir Whatever killing the gay lover? Seemed like it was more than that. I think I get that he was going to kill himself but first killed the guys who knew about the affair.

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Should be fun, but even as a non-book reader, it’s damn obvious where it’s going. The teaser for next Sunday was a little much but I guess it helps explain the next time jump where it seems like nothing has changed except everyone is older.

I thought it was Daemon's guys too running in and that he was orchestrating it. Couldn't tell what was going on for a while.

Alicent learning the secret reminded me of a typical Three's Company episode with the misunderstanding.

Why would the gay lover even approach Sir Whatshisname? Better to hold on to the secret until you can use it. And how did he figure it out anyway? The dude was just standing there looking around and watching a princess he was supposed to be guarding.

How many times will it look like the king is dead?

 

[Desert_Power]

Read three seasons max

They seem to be working fairly quickly at the pre-dance backstory.

For instance, and something I'm not sure of.
There was supposed to be a 10 tourney before the wedding. But it looked liked they got married post fight in a private ceremony,

Was that because of the fight? I seems they could have made an extra episode out of those 10 days. Instead we get a 10 year leap,
I'm not complaining, it just seems odd, and reminds me of when Martin said GOT had enough material for at least three more seasons.

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Guilty conscience, I think, I was yelling at the TV. No you fool. She's asking about uncle Daemon, and you just ratted yourself out.

Me too, it was just so bad because you knew she’s dance around it and he’d blurt it out. It was like the horror movie where they decide to go in the basement. It had to happen but the way it did made me cringe.

An awful lot of cringe going on with this show.

 

[stbugs]

Seems like the King makes a swift recovery based on the time jump. You see him and even if a trick, I can’t imagine they brush it under the rug.

 

[E Street Brat]

Seems like the King makes a swift recovery based on the time jump. You see him and even if a trick, I can’t imagine they brush it under the rug.

The leaching always works.

 

[ChicoCat]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I don't know who the Royce's are......but to be fair to Daemon; she didn't seem like she was Targaryan material. ANY Targaryan should probably be worthy of upper tier Babe/Stud.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I will say that Alicent learning the secret was silly. Hey, let’s just have her dawdle around the question and have him blurt it out even though he wanted to go away with Rhaenyra. Why would he spill the beans that easy? Just felt like they needed Alicent to learn the secret and did it in a hokey way.

Guilty conscience, I think, I was yelling at the TV. No you fool. She's asking about uncle Daemon, and you just ratted yourself out.

Guilty conscience, bumbling idiot, or perhaps more of a schemer than he appears to be at first blush?

 

[Chris B.]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I don't know who the Royce's are......but to be fair to Daemon; she didn't seem like she was Targaryan material. ANY Targaryan should probably be worthy of upper tier Babe/Stud.

Maybe not from a looks standpoint, but it she was experienced in hunting and probably a decent fighter. They could have been a power-couple if Daemon wasn't such a butthole.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

 

[stbugs]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Yep, I mentioned that after the cousin love scene since it happened before with his hoe. With the hoe you didn’t know for sure because it could have been his passing over that vexed him. After cousin non finish it was clear.

 

[belljr]

I'm all sorts of confused about the fight.

Was the new kings hand scheming something? He nods and random guy grabs princess and takes her away, only to be back at the wedding

 

[nysfl2]

I'm all sorts of confused about the fight.

Was the new kings hand scheming something? He nods and random guy grabs princess and takes her away, only to be back at the wedding

I think he was just getting her out of the melee to keep her safe.

That, or possibly the king was worried that she would run off with Daemon during the chaos and wanted to make sure she stuck around to get married.

 

[Capella]

I thought the whole wedding thing was chaotic and hard to follow.

 

[nysfl2]

What I didn't understand is why the son of the new Hand of the King was sewing dissent between Alicent and Rhaenyra. What could he hope to gain from this?

 

[nysfl2]

I also think the show will be improved by aging up Rhaenyra. The actress is very good, but she just looks so young compared to both Daemon and the kingsguard. That whole scene with her and Sir Cole talking about running away together just seemed creepy to me.

 

[beer 30]

I'm all sorts of confused about the fight.

Was the new kings hand scheming something? He nods and random guy grabs princess and takes her away, only to be back at the wedding

I think he was just getting her out of the melee to keep her safe.

That, or possibly the king was worried that she would run off with Daemon during the chaos and wanted to make sure she stuck around to get married.

This is a good point, which explains the marriage directly after the Clash in the Castle, get her married off before she either 1. gets killed or 2. runs off with her uncle.

 

[stbugs]

I thought the whole wedding thing was chaotic and hard to follow.

It was and it was too chaotic if it was literally a fight between two people. I mean it went immediately to a stampede that pushed the princess all the way to the main table. I think they tried to make it look crazy for TV but in reality it probably shouldn’t have been. My thought is that they did that so that a bigger fight between the King’s Guard and Laenor’s folks. We needed the marriage to happen so easier to have one guy dead in the craziness.

I feel like I’m not going to like the Sir Christian stuff. I’m sure it’s in the book, but that scene where he blurted out still annoys me a bit. Just made him look weak IMHO.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I want to love this show but it’s a bit of a jumbled mess. I’m all in but wish it was edited a little better.

Daemons wife riding alone was almost a realistic as nobody searching for Rhaenyra when she ran off, Daemon charging the million arrows, and the King not screaming for everyone to stop immediately when the brawl was occurring.

 

[jamny]

What I didn't understand is why the son of the new Hand of the King was sewing dissent between Alicent and Rhaenyra. What could he hope to gain from this?

I didn't take it to be him sewing dissent, more like him trying to be someone she can trust for information.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

 

[fruity pebbles]

What I didn't understand is why the son of the new Hand of the King was sewing dissent between Alicent and Rhaenyra. What could he hope to gain from this?

He wants to be the queens right hand man

 

[fruity pebbles]

Episode was poorly done.
1. Ser Criston just blurts out his guilt
2. City Watch rushes into the dining hall for no real reason.
3. Criston beats a man to death, the future King consults best friend no less, and just walks on out afterwards.
4. Nobody tries to stop said beating but instead use it as an excuse to start a full on brawl

 

[beer 30]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

He asked about it but it didn't seem to be well received by whoever he asked (I forget the dudes name).

 

[stbugs]

Episode was poorly done.
1. Ser Criston just blurts out his guilt
2. City Watch rushes into the dining hall for no real reason.
3. Criston beats a man to death, the future King consults best friend no less, and just walks on out afterwards.
4. Nobody tries to stop said beating but instead use it as an excuse to start a full on brawl

It really wasn’t even a brawl. No one was actually fighting aside from him beating the lover down. That’s it, which is why it just seemed strange. I think they did that so he could kill him without them having to explain why Laenor and his crew did nothing.

 

[stbugs]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

He asked about it but it didn't seem to be well received by whoever he asked (I forget the dudes name).

I remember it not as not being received well but that the guy accusing him realized that Daemon is his “boss” now. Daemon wasn’t really asking him as much as reminding him that he runs it all. I don’t recall the names of the places but I think the accuser guy leads a secondary house or whatever that falls underneath Daemon’s dead wife.

 

[Desert_Power]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

He asked about it but it didn't seem to be well received by whoever he asked (I forget the dudes name).

I remember it not as not being received well but that the guy accusing him realized that Daemon is his “boss” now. Daemon wasn’t really asking him as much as reminding him that he runs it all. I don’t recall the names of the places but I think the accuser guy leads a secondary house or whatever that falls underneath Daemon’s dead wife.

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

He asked about it but it didn't seem to be well received by whoever he asked (I forget the dudes name).

I remember it not as not being received well but that the guy accusing him realized that Daemon is his “boss” now. Daemon wasn’t really asking him as much as reminding him that he runs it all. I don’t recall the names of the places but I think the accuser guy leads a secondary house or whatever that falls underneath Daemon’s dead wife.

He's a Royce, related to Daemon's wife. The Royces are still around in Game of Thrones taking care of the Vale for the Arryns.

 

[beer 30]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I think the implication is that Daemon had performance difficulties on the wedding night (which they've shown happening to him with others) so the marriage wasn't consummated that night. And he blamed Rhea and shunned her afterward so that it was never consummated.

EDIT: Hence Rhea's parting shot, "should have known you couldn't finish ..."

Didn’t he inherit land that was hers as well?

He asked about it but it didn't seem to be well received by whoever he asked (I forget the dudes name).

I remember it not as not being received well but that the guy accusing him realized that Daemon is his “boss” now. Daemon wasn’t really asking him as much as reminding him that he runs it all. I don’t recall the names of the places but I think the accuser guy leads a secondary house or whatever that falls underneath Daemon’s dead wife.

Because I'm anal about this stuff, below is a recap of the events because I know you all want to know. Pretty much what you said

"At this point, Ser Gerold Royce accosts Daemon at the royal table about the death of Lady Royce, who was Gerold's cousin. Daemon calls it a tragic accident, but Ser Royce accuses Daemon of being the culprit.

Daemon not only threatens that "in King's Landing, men are made to answer for their slanders," he adds that he plans to fly to the Vale to collect his inheritance. Since he and Lady Royce had no children, her inheritance – all of Runestone – now comes to him.

The Vale lord, clearly terrified about the implicit threat of dragonfire, retreats."

 

[Zow]

Pretty sure we're still being spoon-fed backstory filler. We kinda know where the story is going and they have at least two seasons to tell it. The speed of the show will be adjusted by how many seasons they want to drag it out.

I dont (please dont spoil if this is a book thing).

I would think most non-book readers are in the same boat - no way to tell where its going from here. We know Martin loves to lead his readers down a path of expectations then pull the rug out - although I guess the source material for this one is less of a story and more of a "historical account" or somesuch.

Regarding episode 4, I listened to a podcast and the non-book reader was shocked, stunned, disgusted and confused by the uncle / niece scene, whereas it was essentially SOP for the person with the lore background. She said it didn't make her list of top 5 moments in the episode. I was kind of the same - we know the Targ culture and history, we've seen it before and we've seen the chemistry between these two. They pretty much telegraphed it in the prior episodes and in the scenes leading up to it, so really NBD for me as a non-book viewer.

Mallory Rubin?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Pretty sure we're still being spoon-fed backstory filler. We kinda know where the story is going and they have at least two seasons to tell it. The speed of the show will be adjusted by how many seasons they want to drag it out.

I dont (please dont spoil if this is a book thing).

I would think most non-book readers are in the same boat - no way to tell where its going from here. We know Martin loves to lead his readers down a path of expectations then pull the rug out - although I guess the source material for this one is less of a story and more of a "historical account" or somesuch.

Regarding episode 4, I listened to a podcast and the non-book reader was shocked, stunned, disgusted and confused by the uncle / niece scene, whereas it was essentially SOP for the person with the lore background. She said it didn't make her list of top 5 moments in the episode. I was kind of the same - we know the Targ culture and history, we've seen it before and we've seen the chemistry between these two. They pretty much telegraphed it in the prior episodes and in the scenes leading up to it, so really NBD for me as a non-book viewer.

Mallory Rubin?

I think so - either her or her co-host Joanna

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I thought this was another strong episode albeit with several WTF? plot moments in the mix. Daemon slipping in and out of the Vale unseen and killing the head of House Royce in the process was kind of laughable, as was the whole Ser Cristan story. I was disappointed with Alicent in the scene with her father, but they redeemed her when she showed up late to the feast in the Hightower Green dress, essentially laying down the gauntlet. I was certain the king had died several times during the one hour episode, only to see him in the trailer for next week - meaning he's going to survive the 10 year time jump. Really looking forward to the aged-up characters they will introduce next episode and to see things get underway for real. Very happy with the show so far, warts and all.

 

[jobarules]

Now THATS an episode!

 

[facook]

What was Daemon's beef with his wife? She was a babe and I was hoping that we'd get to see a lot more of her heh heh.

I don't know who the Royce's are......but to be fair to Daemon; she didn't seem like she was Targaryan material. ANY Targaryan should probably be worthy of upper tier Babe/Stud.

Maybe not from a looks standpoint, but it she was experienced in hunting and probably a decent fighter. They could have been a power-couple if Daemon wasn't such a butthole.

This insult needs to be used WAY more on this forum. Kudos.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I’m enjoying the show but two things I hope improve;

- The carriage they ride around in looks so out of place. Looks like it’s from some steampunk world or Will Smiths Wild Wild West. Same goes for the metal dome on the ship last episode.

- Maybe they’re waiting to see if the show is a sixes before they splurge on actual suits if armor but the off the rack, Halloween Spirit costumes they’re wearing now are atrociously bad.

 

[Captain Cranks]

??? Matt Smith as Daemon is amazing

No doubt he's great, but he's still in the middle of the love/hate spectrum which leaves many of us feeling ho-hum. Imagine how intense the scene where he's approached by his wife's cousin would be if you truly hated him like we did King Joffrey or loved him like Tyrion.

 

[Apple Juice]

??? Matt Smith as Daemon is amazing

No doubt he's great, but he's still in the middle of the love/hate spectrum which leaves many of us feeling ho-hum. Imagine how intense the scene where he's approached by his wife's cousin would be if you truly hated the him like we did King Joffrey or loved him like Tyrion.

I actually like that there are no clear good guys or bad guys. I pay more attention trying to decide what a character's deal is. Tyrion was entertaining but characters like Jamie and the Hound were more interesting because they leaned good and bad at various times.

 

[Captain Cranks]

It really wasn’t even a brawl. No one was actually fighting aside from him beating the lover down. That’s it, which is why it just seemed strange. I think they did that so he could kill him without them having to explain why Laenor and his crew did nothing.

I think they used the commotion to obfuscate what was happening. Based on the scene just before the fight, we're led to believe it's something related to Daemon and Rhaenyra. Then once the smoke clears we see it was Ser Criston.

 

[Captain Cranks]

I actually like that there are no clear good guys or bad guys. I pay more attention trying to decide what a character's deal is. Tyrion was entertaining but characters like Jamie and the Hound were more interesting because they leaned good and bad at various times.

That's fine for some characters, but not all of them. We have to be emotionally drawn to characters, good and bad, and so far HotD is not executing on that for some of us.

As I mentioned before, I'm rewatching GoT at the same time and within the first few episodes they established characters that you either love (Ned, Tyrion, King Robert) or hate (the Lanisters not named Tyrion). It makes the interactions much more compelling.

 

[Wildcat]

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

 

[jobarules]

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

Me too. I am enjoying the show too. Its not peak GoT but its still pretty good. Much better than that LotR show.

 

[beer 30]

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

Me too. I am enjoying the show too. Its not peak GoT but its still pretty good. Much better than that LotR show.

You guys new here? Welcome! There are some cookies and beer in the back, make yourself comfortable, it's what we do.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

Me too. I am enjoying the show too. Its not peak GoT but its still pretty good. Much better than that LotR show.

I agreed with you after 2 episodes. But I am starting to lean to LotR's after last nights show.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

That's fine for some characters, but not all of them. We have to be emotionally drawn to characters, good and bad, and so far HotD is not executing on that for some of us.

As I mentioned before, I'm rewatching GoT at the same time and within the first few episodes they established characters that you either love (Ned, Tyrion, King Robert) or hate (the Lanisters not named Tyrion). It makes the interactions much more compelling.

Completely agree. In GoT's it hurt when those characters died, and we cheered when the evil characters got theirs. At this point in HotD, I could care less who lives or dies.

 

[jobarules]

I'm enjoying the show, but not this thread. This thread makes me not enjoy the show because many pick it apart too much. I need to learn to stay out of this thread.

Me too. I am enjoying the show too. Its not peak GoT but its still pretty good. Much better than that LotR show.

I agreed with you after 2 episodes. But I am starting to lean to LotR's after last nights show.

I didnt watch the latest episode of LoTR but dont they come out on Fridays? Last week's episode put me to sleep.