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Houston Texans In season Thread 2010 (1 Viewer)

Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
Of all the rumors floating around this is by far the best. I would like Kubiak gone, but Houston really needs a top shelf DC. If they could stop anyone, they wold have a chance. Well that and the heartbreaking losses.
The problem would remain that our god awful defense doesn't have the personnel for a 3-4 and would require quite an overhaul in the FA market and draft. I could see more of a Washington transition and less of the Green Bay one.
The Houston DE's would easily fit into a 3-4. They are big enough and strong enough to handle the change. And it is not like they would be losing a on of pass rush here. Houston should be in position to draft a 3-4 Rush OLB in the draft. Really what else do they need? Cushing at on OLB spot. Hopefully a rookie at another. Diles and Demeco at ILB. Still need a big NT, but most teams do as well. They could get by.
 
I don't think Mario would make a 3-4 end at all, and I have my doubts he could play OLB. He is the mold of a 4-3 DE, I think hes a drop off playing anything else. We would still be short a true NT, easily 2 LBs short, and not to mention we needed upgrades at safety and CB already. Its alot of holes.

 
I think y'all are way overglossing how hard it is to transition from one scheme to another. Look at a lot of the teams that have tried it, they always end up jettisoning the vast majority of their defensive players. Mario would be wasted in a 3-4, he's about as prototypical a 4-3 DE as there is.

The d'line is not the problem, they are middle of the road in pressuring the QB with sacks and hurries. We led the league in pass plays greater than 40 yards given up. Not just led, blew away the competition with 17 plays. The next closest team only gave up 12. Edit: I guess I should say instead that it doesn't matter if you can generate pressure if your DB's can't cover or tackle anyone. Including 5th string undrafted WR's like in the San Diego game.

 
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Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
At first glance that seems like it may work, but I think one of Kubiaks problems is being too player friendly, and that seems to be Wades problem as well. I wouldn't mind seeing (and I know this is impossible), Kubiak bumped down to OC, Wade as DC and a new HC coach who will bring some intensity.
 
Mario's not an OLB, he'd be better suited as a DE if we went to a 3-4. Actually, I think he's best suited to be a full-time LE (strong side) in a 4-3. He's 6'7 and 290 lbs., he'd be way too lumbering outside in a 3-4. I think you'd see:

LE Antonio Smith

NT not on roster

RE Mario Williams

OLB Brian Cushing

OLB Connor Barwin

ILB Demeco Ryans

ILB Zac Diles/Darryl Sharpton

Obviously NT is the most glaring need, you can't really expect Cody, Okoye, or Mitchell to man that spot. I don't think any of them fit that scheme. OLB would surely need some more depth. You might have to play around and see if Cushing's better outside or inside in this scheme, and Barwin's coming off a season-wrecking injury. Then there's the whole issue of the secondary, which needs 4 new players. Whatever we do, we're a long way from fixing it. Sounds like a broken record year after year. Personally, I think these rumors all suck unless they involve canning the entire regime. This would be Kubiak's 3rd defensive coordinator. How much freakin' patience are we supposed to have? I might have to declare myself a free agent fan, and I sure don't want to do that.

 
Since I mongering rumors, here is today's

From the worldwide resource...Twitter:

AlbertBreer Hearing that Houston owner Bob McNair likes the idea of having Bill Cowher there, but isn't convinced that Cowher would come to Texans. ...

AlbertBreer Does NOT mean Kubiak's out. In fact, McNair may hesitate to do anything if he can't land him, since he'd then likely turn back to Kubiak

With a more confusing follow-up

Asked him earlier(based on those reports above from him) "Do you see Bob interviewing or even talking to Bill Cowher after the season? And why wouldnt Cowher come to Houston? Thanks"

His response: "McNair's walking tightrope. Likely to keep Kubiak if can't get Cowher. So gotta be convinced he lands Cowher before interview. "

 
Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
At first glance that seems like it may work, but I think one of Kubiaks problems is being too player friendly, and that seems to be Wades problem as well. I wouldn't mind seeing (and I know this is impossible), Kubiak bumped down to OC, Wade as DC and a new HC coach who will bring some intensity.
:thumbup: The majority of players (not superstars) have to know that the coach will bench you or cut you if you do perform. Which means that the coachactually has to bench or cut somebody for them to know this. I think the Texan's players under Kubiak and the Cowboy's players under Phillips were too comfortable in their job positions. That is why both teams had problems showing up for 60 minutes each game.I do think the Texans could make the playoffs with Kubiak and Phillips, but ultimately do nothing in the playoffs because they will lose to teams who play withmore intensity.
 
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Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
At first glance that seems like it may work, but I think one of Kubiaks problems is being too player friendly, and that seems to be Wades problem as well. I wouldn't mind seeing (and I know this is impossible), Kubiak bumped down to OC, Wade as DC and a new HC coach who will bring some intensity.
:pickle: The majority of players (not superstars) have to know that the coach will bench you or cut you if you do perform. Which means that the coachactually has to bench or cut somebody for them to know this. I think the Texan's players under Kubiak and the Cowboy's players under Phillips were too comfortable in their job positions. That is why both teams had problems showing up for 60 minutes each game.I do think the Texans could make the playoffs with Kubiak and Phillips, but ultimately do nothing in the playoffs because they will lose to teams who play withmore intensity.
What you mean like Diles, Wilson, and Kareem Jackson all losing snaps for under performing? This whole nice guy routine is rather stale. Just because the guy doesn't throw people over the bus at his press conferences doesn't mean he is a nancy with his players. People need to watch more games and stop regurgitating everything the media is feeding.
 
jsharlan said:
dhockster said:
aquateen said:
coolnerd said:
Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
At first glance that seems like it may work, but I think one of Kubiaks problems is being too player friendly, and that seems to be Wades problem as well. I wouldn't mind seeing (and I know this is impossible), Kubiak bumped down to OC, Wade as DC and a new HC coach who will bring some intensity.
:cry: The majority of players (not superstars) have to know that the coach will bench you or cut you if you do perform. Which means that the coach

actually has to bench or cut somebody for them to know this. I think the Texan's players under Kubiak and the Cowboy's players under Phillips were too comfortable in their job positions. That is why both teams had problems showing up for 60 minutes each game.

I do think the Texans could make the playoffs with Kubiak and Phillips, but ultimately do nothing in the playoffs because they will lose to teams who play with

more intensity.
What you mean like Diles, Wilson, and Kareem Jackson all losing snaps for under performing? This whole nice guy routine is rather stale. Just because the guy doesn't throw people over the bus at his press conferences doesn't mean he is a nancy with his players. People need to watch more games and stop regurgitating everything the media is feeding.
Look, I think Kubiak is to be commended for not throwing people under the bus, but he takes it to the point of the absurd and it just makes him look weak.I hear him keep saying that we need to get better on defense. Okay, what are you doing to get better? Is the talent the problem? Is the Scheme the problem? Is the guy you picked to run the defense the problem? Is it a combination of all three?

He said Frank Bush was his guy when he hired him two years ago. He was a guy who had no experience, so what was Kubiak's plan B if Bush failed? I don't know because Bush has failed and I really don't see the Texans doing anything different. Kubiak is supposed to be this great offensive mind. As such, shouldn't he know something about what defenses are hard to play against? Shouldn't he be helping the Texans adjust their defense so that they are not

so soft?

Please, if you can do nothing else for me, just tell me one attribute about Kubiak that makes him a good Head coach. As of yet, I have not seen or heard one person give a concrete example. Keep in mind:

-The offense, which Gary controls, usually plays one good half of football. For a lot of 2010, that was in the second half when the other team was playing prevent defense.

-The defense is 29th in yards given up, 30th in points given up, and 32nd in turnovers forced. Usually a team trades the ability to get turnovers for the risk of giving up big plays. The Texans don't force turnovers and they give up big plays.

-The special teams have been anything but special. Football Outsiders ranks them 24th out of 32 teams. Both Kickoff return and punt return teams are well below league average and they punting coverage is below average. The Kickoff coverage is slightly above average, and Field goals/XPoint conversion is their bright spot ranking about 3rd in the league.

So if you can tell me one good thing that Gary is doing as a head coach, I'm all ears.

 
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jsharlan said:
What you mean like Diles, Wilson, and Kareem Jackson all losing snaps for under performing? This whole nice guy routine is rather stale. Just because the guy doesn't throw people over the bus at his press conferences doesn't mean he is a nancy with his players. People need to watch more games and stop regurgitating everything the media is feeding.
Throwing someone over a bus would be quite a feat of strength. Such a display just might win the team back.
 
coolnerd said:
Since I mongering rumors, here is today's

From the worldwide resource...Twitter:

AlbertBreer Hearing that Houston owner Bob McNair likes the idea of having Bill Cowher there, but isn't convinced that Cowher would come to Texans. ...

AlbertBreer Does NOT mean Kubiak's out. In fact, McNair may hesitate to do anything if he can't land him, since he'd then likely turn back to Kubiak

With a more confusing follow-up

Asked him earlier(based on those reports above from him) "Do you see Bob interviewing or even talking to Bill Cowher after the season? And why wouldnt Cowher come to Houston? Thanks"

His response: "McNair's walking tightrope. Likely to keep Kubiak if can't get Cowher. So gotta be convinced he lands Cowher before interview. "
That might be difficult to do. So is this where we stand at the moment, Cowher or Kubiak? As a Foster owner, I guess I'd be happy with either. As a Texans fan, I'd be _____________.
 
jsharlan said:
dhockster said:
aquateen said:
coolnerd said:
Another rumor floating around Texans message boards is that Kubiak and Smith stay with Wade Phillips as DC....again see signatiure
At first glance that seems like it may work, but I think one of Kubiaks problems is being too player friendly, and that seems to be Wades problem as well. I wouldn't mind seeing (and I know this is impossible), Kubiak bumped down to OC, Wade as DC and a new HC coach who will bring some intensity.
:thumbdown: The majority of players (not superstars) have to know that the coach will bench you or cut you if you do perform. Which means that the coach

actually has to bench or cut somebody for them to know this. I think the Texan's players under Kubiak and the Cowboy's players under Phillips were too comfortable in their job positions. That is why both teams had problems showing up for 60 minutes each game.

I do think the Texans could make the playoffs with Kubiak and Phillips, but ultimately do nothing in the playoffs because they will lose to teams who play with

more intensity.
What you mean like Diles, Wilson, and Kareem Jackson all losing snaps for under performing? This whole nice guy routine is rather stale. Just because the guy doesn't throw people over the bus at his press conferences doesn't mean he is a nancy with his players. People need to watch more games and stop regurgitating everything the media is feeding.
Look, I think Kubiak is to be commended for not throwing people under the bus, but he takes it to the point of the absurd and it just makes him look weak.I hear him keep saying that we need to get better on defense. Okay, what are you doing to get better? Is the talent the problem? Is the Scheme the problem? Is the guy you picked to run the defense the problem? Is it a combination of all three?

He said Frank Bush was his guy when he hired him two years ago. He was a guy who had no experience, so what was Kubiak's plan B if Bush failed? I don't know because Bush has failed and I really don't see the Texans doing anything different. Kubiak is supposed to be this great offensive mind. As such, shouldn't he know something about what defenses are hard to play against? Shouldn't he be helping the Texans adjust their defense so that they are not

so soft?

Please, if you can do nothing else for me, just tell me one attribute about Kubiak that makes him a good Head coach. As of yet, I have not seen or heard one person give a concrete example. Keep in mind:

-The offense, which Gary controls, usually plays one good half of football. For a lot of 2010, that was in the second half when the other team was playing prevent defense.

-The defense is 29th in yards given up, 30th in points given up, and 32nd in turnovers forced. Usually a team trades the ability to get turnovers for the risk of giving up big plays. The Texans don't force turnovers and they give up big plays.

-The special teams have been anything but special. Football Outsiders ranks them 24th out of 32 teams. Both Kickoff return and punt return teams are well below league average and they punting coverage is below average. The Kickoff coverage is slightly above average, and Field goals/XPoint conversion is their bright spot ranking about 3rd in the league.

So if you can tell me one good thing that Gary is doing as a head coach, I'm all ears.
Go away.
 
Look, I think Kubiak is to be commended for not throwing people under the bus, but he takes it to the point of the absurd and it just makes him look weak.

I hear him keep saying that we need to get better on defense. Okay, what are you doing to get better? Is the talent the problem? Is the Scheme the problem? Is the guy you picked to run the defense the problem? Is it a combination of all three?

He said Frank Bush was his guy when he hired him two years ago. He was a guy who had no experience, so what was Kubiak's plan B if Bush failed? I don't know because Bush has failed and I really don't see the Texans doing anything different. Kubiak is supposed to be this great offensive mind. As such, shouldn't he know something about what defenses are hard to play against? Shouldn't he be helping the Texans adjust their defense so that they are not

so soft?

Please, if you can do nothing else for me, just tell me one attribute about Kubiak that makes him a good Head coach. As of yet, I have not seen or heard one person give a concrete example. Keep in mind:

-The offense, which Gary controls, usually plays one good half of football. For a lot of 2010, that was in the second half when the other team was playing prevent defense.

-The defense is 29th in yards given up, 30th in points given up, and 32nd in turnovers forced. Usually a team trades the ability to get turnovers for the risk of giving up big plays. The Texans don't force turnovers and they give up big plays.

-The special teams have been anything but special. Football Outsiders ranks them 24th out of 32 teams. Both Kickoff return and punt return teams are well below league average and they punting coverage is below average. The Kickoff coverage is slightly above average, and Field goals/XPoint conversion is their bright spot ranking about 3rd in the league.

So if you can tell me one good thing that Gary is doing as a head coach, I'm all ears.
Go away.
I will gladly admit I'm wrong if you can point out one good thing Kubiak has going for him as a head coach.I like the guy because he is a class guy and a nice guy. I want to see him succeed. I grew up in Philly but now live in Houston, so the Texans are my

second team. I will be going to the Jaguar game this Sunday.

A head coach needs to show leadership, vision, and have the ability to make adjustments when things don't go as planned. Gary has the look of a deer in headlights this season. I don't blame it all on him, because I think Rick Smith has done a subpar job as well. And neither Gary nor Rick can be totally to

blame if Bob McNair isn't allowing them to go out and sign some select free agents that could help their team.

I hope the Texans turn it around next year with or without Kubiak. But if he stays, I am not expecting a much different result than what we have seen

for the last 5 years.

 
I think you misunderstand me as defending the job Kubiak has done, I am not. I was simply saying that what you said he needed to do, he did, ie bench players. The whole nice guy routine is overplayed by the media because he takes all the blame publicly, and handles his problems in house. That much I can respect about him. You have never seen a Texan player mouthing off on twitter or during some interview and I think alot of that is the in house type of business Kubiak instilled in them.

 
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/7360542.html

Indications are that owner Bob McNair plans to keep Gary Kubiak as his head coach for the Texans and hire Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator.

Unless something like a blowout loss to Jacksonville in Sunday’s game at Reliant Stadium causes him to have an 11th-hour change of heart, McNair will bring back Kubiak for his sixth season, two people familiar with the situation said on Thursday.

McNair has declined to comment on Kubiak’s job situation since Dec. 15, but three people close to the owner said he’s angry, disappointed and frustrated with the Texans’ 5-10 record that includes eight losses in nine games.

They say, however, that McNair believes the offense is in good hands with Kubiak overseeing it but that he wants to improve the defense dramatically.

Those close to McNair say he wants his head coach to hire a big-name defensive coordinator with a proven track record. That would be Phillips, who was fired as the Dallas Cowboys’ head coach after they started 1-7.

The last four jobs Phillips has accepted as defensive coordinator have been with teams that had a losing record the season before he arrived, and each went to the playoffs in his first season.

Phillips, 63, would be the third defensive coordinator in Kubiak’s six seasons, following Richard Smith and Frank Bush. When the Texans hired Smith and Bush as defensive coordinators, they were calling defenses for the first time. Phillips would be Kubiak’s first coordinator who had already called defenses.

Defensive coordinator Bush and defensive backs coach David Gibbs are expected to be fired. Other changes could be made.

Bush has been with the Texans for three seasons, including the last two as defensive coordinator. Gibbs is finishing his second season with the Texans.

A possible successor to Gibbs could be University of Houston defensive coordinator Brian Stewart. Stewart was an assistant secondary coach under Jon Hoke with the Texans before he was hired by San Diego, where Phillips was the defensive coordinator under Marty Schottenheimer.

After Phillips went to Dallas as the Cowboys’ head coach, he hired Stewart as his defensive coordinator. Owner Jerry Jones made Phillips fire Stewart and take over the defensive coordinator duties.

Stewart spent the 2009 season as a defensive assistant with Philadelphia before Cougars coach Kevin Sumlin hired him before this past season.

 
McClain has been flip flopping on his views all year. I think he has about as much insight into what the team does as the hot dog vendor.

 
McClain has been flip flopping on his views all year. I think he has about as much insight into what the team does as the hot dog vendor.
McClain did make a good point in the Chronicle today that it is very unlikely that McNair would have let Bum Phillips come to practice andsay all sorts of nice things about Kubiak if McNair were planning to let Kubiak go next week. Based on that logic, I do think Kubiak isprobably staying.
 
Wade Phillips doesn't make a whole lot of football sense to me. Transitioning to a 3-4 seems like a horrible idea. We already have huge gaps in personnel in the secondary and now they're gonna force the few decent defensive players we have on the front 7 to learn new positions? You might as well fire Kubiak outright then and start from scratch because that's gonna be a multi-year process.

I know Bum is a big Houston and by extension Texans fan. I know Wade just got fired by the Cowboys and is a Texas guy. We definitely need a new defensive co-ordinator and preferrably one with some experience. But this Wade Phillips to the Texans speculation just seems like "jump to conclusions mat" type logic to me. This is the Texans though, so I could be wrong...

 
One issue I have with McNair is his desire to hire the "hometown boy" all the time thinking that is pleasing fans. I don't want to hire Phillips and have to struggle filling out a 3-4 just because he is a Houston native, I'd rather hire Marvin Lewis or John Fox and keep the 4-3.

 
One issue I have with McNair is his desire to hire the "hometown boy" all the time thinking that is pleasing fans. I don't want to hire Phillips and have to struggle filling out a 3-4 just because he is a Houston native, I'd rather hire Marvin Lewis or John Fox and keep the 4-3.
I agree with your thinking. Don't hire someone because they have Texas ties, hire someone who will get the job done.The same goes for Gary. Don't hire buddies you have worked with before, hire someone who will get the job done.The problem with hiring someone who you have some tie to, is that you inevitably keep them longer than you should because you want themto succeed. This keeps you from making the best decision for the team.
 
Better than I could put into words myself, this describes why I am against a Kubiak/Phillips pairing

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id...shucks-festival

The Chronicle's John McClain reports that indications out of Houston are that head coach Gary Kubiak will be retained and Wade Phillips will be hired to revamp the defense, replacing Frank Bush. Defensive backs coach David Gibbs will also reportedly be gone.

[+] EnlargePatrick Green/Icon SMI

Former Cowboys coach Wade Phillips might resurface in Houston as an assitant.It’s an understandable strategy though it’s not going to placate the majority of Texans fans.

Phillips can be a high-quality defensive coordinator.

The biggest issue I see is one that was pointed out to me by a reader (sorry, I can’t find our exchange to give you proper credit): It will leave the team headed by two guys with “Aw, shucks” personalities.

That trait -- which would be shared by Kubiak and a new, powerful defensive coordinator -- wouldn't solve one of the team’s primary issues: its lack of a strong identity and anything resembling a killer instinct.

Those are traits that can trickle down from the top men when a team takes on the personality of a strong, forceful head coach.

It’s not how it will work in this setup.

So if this is how things play out in Houston, I think Kubiak and Phillips will need to work hard to find ways to strengthen the team’s backbone. They shouldn’t pretend to be people they aren’t, but they can change to a degree -- and will need to.

 
Kubiak retained, Bush and several assistants gone

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...nt/7363893.html

Highlighted what I think is notable.

When making his decision to bring back coach Gary Kubiak despite a horrible 6-10 record, owner Bob McNair took into consideration an offense that has ranked among the best in the NFL, the freakish nature of at least five defeats and a strong belief that the 30th-ranked defense can be improved significantly by a new coordinator.

McNair believes improvement by the defense, especially the 32nd-ranked pass defense, will help the Texans improve their record dramatically next season.

“It’s clear the offense isn’t where the problem lies,” McNair said today. “Our defense is in the bottom three. If our defense had just been average, we’d be in the playoffs and out practicing instead of talking.

“This past season was an aberration. I’ve never seen anything like it. Our offense kept some games close enough to win, but we didn’t win enough. I’m not happy about it. I’m angry like everyone else, and we’re not going to put up with another season like this one.

“I think we’re not that far from being a good team, but there’s no question we’ve got to do something about our defense. We’re going to be a good team, and it’s not going to take as much as people think.

“I know we can’t win all the time, but I always want to be close enough at the finish line where we can win our share.”

Kubiak fired four defensive coaches – coordinator Frank Bush, linebackers coach Johnny Holland, secondary coach David Gibbs and assistant linebackers coach Robert Saleh.

Kubiak said he wants to compile a list of defensive coordinator candidates as early as tonight and start the interview process as soon as possible. He admitted that Wade Phillips will be a candidate.

McNair wants Kubiak to hire a defensive coordinator with a proven track record.

“We need somebody who’s been there and done it, and there’s less risk,” McNair said. “When you bring somebody in who hasn’t done it (called defenses), you don’t know how they’re going to do. I don’t want to take that risk again.”

Kubiak plans to interview Phillips.

"I will be talking to people (candidates) as soon as I can," Kubiak said. "I've known Wade a long time. I've competed against him. I have a lot of respect for him. I think it's safe to say that Wade will be a candidate."

Kubiak said he will have no reservations about switching to a 3-4 scheme if that's what the new defensive coordinator wants to play."It doesn't matter because we have to get the best guy, and if that's what he thinks is best for our team, that's fine with me," Kubiak said. "It's all about getting the right guy and doing what's best for the team."

Kubiak said he has to sell the Texans to the new defensive coordinator and allow him to bring in the assistant coaches he wants. Kubiak said he wants the new defensive coordinator to tell him what he wants as far as assistants and players, and it'll be the Texans' job to get them for him.

As the losses mounted and speculation began that Kubiak would be fired, his players came to his defense. McNair was aware of their feelings for their head coach.

“It’s not based on what they said,” McNair said about players wanting Kubiak to return. “I knew they respected him. I could see that in the locker room and at practice and the way they listen to him. One of his strengths is the way he relates to his players. He doesn’t play favorites and treats them fairly.

“I believe in Gary. I believe he’s the coach to help us get where we want to go (playoffs).”

Kubiak said it was tough to get excited about returning for a sixth year after he had to fire four coaches who were his friends.

"It's been a brutal day," Kubiak said about the firings, "but I appreciate Bob's confidence in me.

"I work for a great owner who believes in me. I don't want to let him down. I want to make him proud."

 
Sorry if this has been mentioned in the thread but how is the rehab of Tate going and when will we start hearing about him for next year taking carries from Foster ?

 
Sorry if this has been mentioned in the thread but how is the rehab of Tate going and when will we start hearing about him for next year taking carries from Foster ?
Don't think I have read anything since he was put on IR in August. Hopefully we will start to hear some news in the springtime.
 
dhockster said:
I will gladly admit I'm wrong if you can point out one good thing Kubiak has going for him as a head coach...
No, you won't (haven't). You'll tell us again about how he's too nice and doesn't "have the look" of what you think a coach should look/act like, in spite of whatever good he's done.
Which is.......?
Sigh.Maybe you don't mean to be, but you're suggesting that Kubiak hasn't done a single positive thing in 5 seasons? Of course he has. If you really need for me to give you examples (again), then you either

A) are on a fishing trip

B) haven't been watching the Texans

or

C) just started watching football

and in any of those cases your participation in the discussion is pointless.

Whatever he's done clearly isn't good enough, we can agree on that.

 
Sigh.

Maybe you don't mean to be, but you're suggesting that Kubiak hasn't done a single positive thing in 5 seasons? Of course he has. If you really need for me to give you examples (again), then you either

A) are on a fishing trip

B) haven't been watching the Texans

or

C) just started watching football

and in any of those cases your participation in the discussion is pointless.

Whatever he's done clearly isn't good enough, we can agree on that.
I am not suggesting he has not done any good things in 5 years. He has. He has built a very good offense. It is still way too inconsistent, but it is agood offense. But he could do that as an offensive coordinator. My beef with him is as a head coach.

Twice I have asked for anyone to give me one good attribute of Kubiak as a head coach. I have not gotten one response that addressed my question.

It is frustrating when this is a year that there are a lot of proven winning head coaches looking for jobs, and the Texans are keeping a coach who in

five years has not made the playoffs. Again, I don't blame that all on Kubiak, but I just don't seeing him pushing the right buttons at the right time when

it comes to game plans or motivating his players.

I wish the Texans luck in 2011.

 
I am not suggesting he has not done any good things in 5 years. He has. He has built a very good offense. It is still way too inconsistent, but it is agood offense. But he could do that as an offensive coordinator. My beef with him is as a head coach.Twice I have asked for anyone to give me one good attribute of Kubiak as a head coach. I have not gotten one response that addressed my question.It is frustrating when this is a year that there are a lot of proven winning head coaches looking for jobs, and the Texans are keeping a coach who infive years has not made the playoffs. Again, I don't blame that all on Kubiak, but I just don't seeing him pushing the right buttons at the right time whenit comes to game plans or motivating his players.I wish the Texans luck in 2011.
I heard Matt Williamson talking about Norv Turner as a head coach, and I think Kubiak is similar. Matt said that Norv was so good as a playcaller(best in the league is what he said) and so good at developing QBs(best in the league again) that a team would always have to make him a head coach if they wanted to keep him, even if he wasn't that great of a head coach. Kubiak has coached his offense to be a top 6 unit for the last four or five years in a row. Sure, he's probably more of an OC than a HC, but sometimes you have to give a guy more than he really deserves if you want the benefit of what he is good at. Right now, until Kubiak does something to break that facade, that's where I see him.
 
I am not suggesting he has not done any good things in 5 years. He has. He has built a very good offense. It is still way too inconsistent, but it is agood offense. But he could do that as an offensive coordinator. My beef with him is as a head coach.Twice I have asked for anyone to give me one good attribute of Kubiak as a head coach. I have not gotten one response that addressed my question.It is frustrating when this is a year that there are a lot of proven winning head coaches looking for jobs, and the Texans are keeping a coach who infive years has not made the playoffs. Again, I don't blame that all on Kubiak, but I just don't seeing him pushing the right buttons at the right time whenit comes to game plans or motivating his players.I wish the Texans luck in 2011.
I heard Matt Williamson talking about Norv Turner as a head coach, and I think Kubiak is similar. Matt said that Norv was so good as a playcaller(best in the league is what he said) and so good at developing QBs(best in the league again) that a team would always have to make him a head coach if they wanted to keep him, even if he wasn't that great of a head coach. Kubiak has coached his offense to be a top 6 unit for the last four or five years in a row. Sure, he's probably more of an OC than a HC, but sometimes you have to give a guy more than he really deserves if you want the benefit of what he is good at. Right now, until Kubiak does something to break that facade, that's where I see him.
Fair point. Frankly, I don't like having a head coach who is only able to get the best out of one of his three units (and the offense, while it has been in the top 4 in yards gained the last 3 years, has only been as high as 9th in points scored).I think my dislike of Kubiak as a head coach probably centers on two things he did this year, both on offense. First, in one game in the middle of the season, the Texans were running the two minute drill before the end of the first half. The Texans had one timeout left when they completed a pass at around the Opponents 40 yard line with roughly 25 seconds left. Rather than call timeout, the Texans rushed up field to spike the ball to kill the clock. By the time they did this there were only 2 seconds left on the clock and the Texans still had their timeout left (which they now could not use). The camera showed a frustrated Matt Schaub who looked over at the sidelines and said "why didn't we call timeout?". My complaint in this instance, is not that Kubiak didn't call timeout, but why after 4 years as your QB, Matt Schaub does not have authority to call a timeout. To me, that indicates that Kubiak likes to control too much on the offensive side of the ball and is not training his players to be leaders. The second thing this year that frustrated me about Kubiak was his playcalling in the second Indy game. After running the ball 42 times in the first game and averaging 6.1 yards a carry in their first game against the Colts, the Texans only ran the ball 18 times in the 2nd game. This made no sense because they were on the road in a dome when the crowd noise really helps the home teams pass rush which is one of Indy's defensive strengths. So instead of continuing to run the ball to minimize the defenses strengths, The Texans ended up throwing the ball 2/3rds of the time. The Colts never were able to stop the Texans running as they averaged 6.0 yards a carry in the 2nd game.To Nate's pleasure, I will now stop being critical of Kubiak until next season (and only if he does things to warrant it).
 
I think my dislike of Kubiak as a head coach probably centers on two things he did this year, both on offense. First, in one game in the middle of the season, the Texans were running the two minute drill before the end of the first half. The Texans had one timeout left when they completed a pass at around the Opponents 40 yard line with roughly 25 seconds left. Rather than call timeout, the Texans rushed up field to spike the ball to kill the clock. By the time they did this there were only 2 seconds left on the clock and the Texans still had their timeout left (which they now could not use). The camera showed a frustrated Matt Schaub who looked over at the sidelines and said "why didn't we call timeout?". My complaint in this instance, is not that Kubiak didn't call timeout, but why after 4 years as your QB, Matt Schaub does not have authority to call a timeout. To me, that indicates that Kubiak likes to control too much on the offensive side of the ball and is not training his players to be leaders. The second thing this year that frustrated me about Kubiak was his playcalling in the second Indy game. After running the ball 42 times in the first game and averaging 6.1 yards a carry in their first game against the Colts, the Texans only ran the ball 18 times in the 2nd game. This made no sense because they were on the road in a dome when the crowd noise really helps the home teams pass rush which is one of Indy's defensive strengths. So instead of continuing to run the ball to minimize the defenses strengths, The Texans ended up throwing the ball 2/3rds of the time. The Colts never were able to stop the Texans running as they averaged 6.0 yards a carry in the 2nd game.To Nate's pleasure, I will now stop being critical of Kubiak until next season (and only if he does things to warrant it).
Actually these are both very good points and I agree. You'll never hear me complain about criticisms of Kubiak (or anyone else) when they're based on something tangible we saw on game day.
 
Point 1: I would be more concerned that it took 23 seconds for some pro athletes to run 20 yards up the field.

Point 2: You don't have time to run the ball when you are down multiple scores to a Peyton Manning lead team and you have the 32nd ranked pass defense. You don't have the luxury of burning the clock with the run game.

 
Point 2: You don't have time to run the ball when you are down multiple scores to a Peyton Manning lead team and you have the 32nd ranked pass defense. You don't have the luxury of burning the clock with the run game.
I get that you can be forced to abandon the run, but the Texans opened up that game pass-heavy.
 
I know it's not Smith's style, but can someone more familiar with the cap situation tell me if there is any chance at all of signing Asomugha?

 
I've been daydreaming about signing Aso for months, they need to make it happen. One of the premier, young players at our biggest position of weakness. Time to open the wallet!

 
Wade's a great coordinator but he is not cut out for HC. Reports after he left said that guys were playing Dominos and Spades during practice, sleeping in meetings, without repercussion. I highly doubt Kubiak would let this go on so team should be fine in regards to discipline. As far as your personnel goes, Okoye could potentially fill the role of NT similiar to Jay Ratliff, where he gives up bulk for speed I wonder how SuperMario would fit at 3-4 end because primarily their role is setting the edges for the OLB. The biggest problem with Wades scheme is that it is highly dependent upon pressure. When the pressure doesnt get there the CB's get exposed. In 2009 he had everything working and the defense dominated Mike Jenkins was a probowler then fast forward to 2010 and Jenkins leads lead in PI and is a liability in coverage. Will be interesting to see how their defense rebounds seems like it can only get better.

 
I know it's not Smith's style, but can someone more familiar with the cap situation tell me if there is any chance at all of signing Asomugha?
There was no cap in 2010, but they were comfortably under in 2009 where they could take his huge contract. The problem Asomugha is:1) The Texans will have to money whip him2) Convince him that they are legitimate Superbowl contender.At 30 Asomugha has close enough to backside of his career that my winning might matter as much as money. He can get money pretty much anywhere (and he has made a silly amount of cash) think all the other things are that going to matter.
 
I know it's not Smith's style, but can someone more familiar with the cap situation tell me if there is any chance at all of signing Asomugha?
There was no cap in 2010, but they were comfortably under in 2009 where they could take his huge contract. The problem Asomugha is:1) The Texans will have to money whip him2) Convince him that they are legitimate Superbowl contender.At 30 Asomugha has close enough to backside of his career that my winning might matter as much as money. He can get money pretty much anywhere (and he has made a silly amount of cash) think all the other things are that going to matter.
Unfortunately, very true. Why come to Houston when probably 2/3'rd's of the teams out there will both want him & can probably afford him? About the only intangible I think we can offer is that he and Andre are supposedly somewhat friends off the field. I doubt that counts much in the grand scheme of things though.
 
As an Eagles fan, the one thing I truly appreciate about them is their approach to free agency. They aren't huge players in free agency, but when

they see someone who can fill a need, they go after them hard. Big name free agent signings for them over the last decade have included Troy Vincent, John Runyon, Jevon Kearse, and Asante Samuel. They also go after disgruntled big name players through trade. TO and Jason Peters are examples of this.

The Texans need to go after Asomugha hard and get him. It really doesn't matter if they overpay for him, because he can help change the face of the defense. Wade can leave him one on one on his side, and roll the safety to help out on the other side. This should immensely help the Texans coverage, which in turn should lead to more sacks and turnovers. If Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak, and Wade Phillips aren't lobbying hard to Bob McNair to let them go get this guy, or Bob McNair won't listen to his people trying to get this guy, then I think the Texans are doomed to be a middle of the road team for years to come.

 
I know it's not Smith's style, but can someone more familiar with the cap situation tell me if there is any chance at all of signing Asomugha?
There was no cap in 2010, but they were comfortably under in 2009 where they could take his huge contract. The problem Asomugha is:1) The Texans will have to money whip him2) Convince him that they are legitimate Superbowl contender.At 30 Asomugha has close enough to backside of his career that my winning might matter as much as money. He can get money pretty much anywhere (and he has made a silly amount of cash) think all the other things are that going to matter.
Unfortunately, very true. Why come to Houston when probably 2/3'rd's of the teams out there will both want him & can probably afford him? About the only intangible I think we can offer is that he and Andre are supposedly somewhat friends off the field. I doubt that counts much in the grand scheme of things though.
The biggest problem is that there is will not be any Free Agency period this year until a new CBA is signed.
 

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