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Houstson Texans need a #2 WR ! (1 Viewer)
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Daniels will be the 2 and they'll be fine.
Daniels is our TE and a damn good one! But we need a WR really bad. I was thinking about TO, but how bad is that knee really? I know him and his agent will say its not serious to get a deal done.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
they should look at Mark Clayton
TJ Housh is also a FA
TJ Housh is also a FA
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jsharlan
Footballguy
Go back and look at the Packers #2 WR last year, the Saints #2 WR in 2009, the Steelers #2 WR in 2008, and the Giants #2 WR in 2007. None of them had anything better than Kevin Walter and they all won a championship. What Houston needs is a defense that performs on the field like it looks on paper and they will finally break through.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree that Houston's offense is fine and it is their D that needs improving. That being said, Kevin Walter is not on the level of Donald Driver, Santonio Holmes or Amani Toomer. Those 3 have a combined 13 1000 yard seasons compared to Walter's 0.
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coolnerd
Footballguy
Neither one of those dude is clear upgrade over what they already have.
GregR
Footballguy
There is also their cap situation. They had to restructure $8m worth just to get back under the cap after the re-signings and getting Joseph and Manning. They also have some potentially big contracts they have to either do this year or handle in the off-season when they have to be tagged or risk them walking like Mario Williams and Chris Myers. I don't know there is an upgrade at a price they would be willing to pay.
dhockster
Footballguy
I think they have done all they can do this year in acquisitions due to their cap. I think they have done enough to improve the defense to get to the playoffs this year. Next year they can work on a #2 WR to help out Andre (which he will need as he gets older) and perhaps take them from a playoff team to a SB contender.Almost posted this as well. You can't solve every problem, every offseason. Finding a #2 WR for the #4 offense in the league was pretty low on the list of priorities, especially compared to fixing one of the worst secondaries in history. We still couldn't afford to bring Vonta Leach back.Who else was affordable and worth the risk? Plax & Mason are old as dirt and signed contracts for similar $ avg to Jacoby. MSW or Braylon (suspension risk) are the only younger guys I can think of that were available and in the same price range or cheaper. At least drop-coby's contract is only $3M guaranteed, little consequence to cutting him next year if they can find an upgrade somewhere else.My guess is the Texans will be looking hard at WR's in the draft in 2012, especially with Andre getting older.
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Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
I think you're about 8 years late on this topic. With all apologies to a young Jabar Gaffney, I'm afraid Kevin Walter is the best #2 WR in the history of the franchise. They've still managed to put up solid passing numbers in the past few years.
footballnerd
Footballguy
what's the deal with Jacoby Jones? Always thought he had the speed and size to be a solid WR2.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
True, but Driver and Tommer's 1k seasons were past them, and Holmes was just beginning to warm up. The reality is, when you have a lot of money tied up in a stud receiver, you can't have any depth if you sign someone else who is decent (see the Jets...they watched Brad Smith walk away to a team in their division and could not risk keeping Cotchery as they needed the money). ATL was able to do it, but they may run into issues in a few years and Indy has been able to do it mainly due to the fact all their WRs are homegrown guys (and when you look at Garcon, Collie and White, cheaper draft picks).
jsharlan
Footballguy
Super Bowl Packers
Donald Driver 51/565/4
James Jones 50/679/5
Super Bowl Saints
Robert Meachem 45/722/9
Devery Henderson 51/804/2
Super Bowl Steelers
Santanio Holmes 55/821/5
Nate Washington 40/631/3
Super Bowl Giants
Amani Toomer 59/760/3
Sinorice Moss 21/225/0
2010 Texans
Kevin Walter 51/621/5
Jacoby Jones 51/562/3
While you may personally think that Driver, Holmes, and Toomer are better than Kevin Walter over the course of their careers, none of them gave their championship winning teams anything better than Walter does when they won. The last 4 championship teams didnt get any better production really than what Walter and Jones provide the Texans. A 80 catch, 10 TD #2 WR is not what is missing from this team, a defense that is at the least mediocre is. Each of the last 4 champions had a defense that preformed well and caused turnovers. A spread the ball around offense with many mouths is absolutely fine for winning a champion. A basketball team of Helen Kellers in the secondary is not.
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None of them were playing opposite Andre Johnson (nearly 7 rec/gm). These guys were all the first or second options in their passing game. Walter has been the third option at best in the Houston offense. At 6'3" 220 he is nice big target and is known as a great blocker. We did not need a change at WR2. This has been a very proficient offense the last few years with Walter as WR2. To say we suddenly need an upgrade is a dumb assertion.
GregR
Footballguy
One of the sports radio guys sums up Jacoby pretty well with his nickname for him. Knucklehead.Whether it's questionable off the field behavior and odd tweets, or on the field behavior with dropped balls and lapses of concentration, he often behaves like a knucklehead. Lots of physical ability but he's not consistent. He also is not a very good run blocker, which is something that Kubiak's system calls for out of their WRs. Walter is a very good blocker, perhaps better than some of the tight ends like Casey, and so he will continue to be out there and turn the second WR slot into a WR-by-committee.
GregR
Footballguy
One other thing worth mentioning on the topic of the Texans WRs. I'm not convinced they are happy with their options after the top 3. I think Davard Darling being brought in was a sign of this, and I wouldn't be surprised if they look outside of the current roster to fill those spots. But I think with their money situation they are probably going to be minimum salary deals if they do.
I heard a radio guy on 1560 mention a rumor they might work out Bryant Johnson. And those were his exact words, "the rumor that they might work out Bryant Johnson". So take it with appropriate salt for now. Even if they do, I barely expect Jacoby and Walter to have much fantasy significance beyond a bye week starter in anything but the deepest leagues. I wouldn't expect much out of anyone they do sign as a WR4 or 5.
I heard a radio guy on 1560 mention a rumor they might work out Bryant Johnson. And those were his exact words, "the rumor that they might work out Bryant Johnson". So take it with appropriate salt for now. Even if they do, I barely expect Jacoby and Walter to have much fantasy significance beyond a bye week starter in anything but the deepest leagues. I wouldn't expect much out of anyone they do sign as a WR4 or 5.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
WHY? They are happy enough with Kevin Walter and Jacoby Jones who already know all the plays, system, coaches and playersIF there had been someone better they could get for the right price, they would have (did try on some)
jsharlan
Footballguy
I think Dorin Dickerson is a lock as WR4, they love him. Who is further down than that is pretty irrelevant on this team imo.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Lestar Jean was working ahead of Dickerson in the last preseason game, so if you are going to mention his name I'd think you may want to understand who is equal or above him? They have plenty of WR depth IMO. Pretty much knew this was going to be a laughable thread when Braylon Edwards was touted in the original post that he was one of the good pick-ups. As Ross Tucker said on Sirius NFL Radio (former Edwards teammate), Edwards would actually rather play a Super Bowl WR in a movie than be a WR in the league. That tells you what his work ethic is like. Why would you want that on your team?
coolnerd
Footballguy
http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-waive-eight-sign-two-vets-2146702.php
in terms of this thread Bryant Johnson signs, and Lester jean is on IR.
in terms of this thread Bryant Johnson signs, and Lester jean is on IR.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
Texans should sign Moss AND TO. The offense will be unstoppable and we will find out just how many points the defense is really capable of giving away when you force the matter. 
