How can you tell if the left has gone too far? (1 Viewer)

[FairWarning]

I missed this earlier.   

Honest answer?  Someone smarter than I am would have better ideas I'm sure.   Bottom line is with our resources, there is a way, but again - I believe our priorities are wonky.    Training programs to help convert those jobs to jobs in the renewable industr?.   Incentives for business and engineers to focus on this over oil?  Federal programs to help employees losing jobs?    Relocation programs?    Where there is a will, there is a way - we just seem to lack the will.  

You have good ideas here but I think Biden and those at the WH are playing fast and loose with the statement of creating good paying jobs with green energy.  In their perfect world, we will be weened off of it totally.  What happens to gas stations?talking about wiping out a lot of jobs and small businesses, this is a start.  I know nuclear jobs pay very well, but we won’t build more of those.  Gas and oil production jobs pay great also.  The offshore people make $150k + and only work about 36 weeks a year.   Coal jobs would be eliminated I assume.   Yes, green will have some high paying jobs also, but I can’t see them creating more than what we have now in the energy sector.  

 

[the moops]

It makes more sense to do a slow move.  Let a younger generation learn the renewable energy jobs and slowly phase out fossil fuels as the infrastructure becomes more widespread.  To do a virtual hard stop is needlessly painful.  

This has been a slow move. Renewables have been increasing every year for the past 20 years. Fossil fuels will be phased out completely at some point, not a very near in time point, but everyone has to see that right?

There is a big push for kids to go to college and get productive degrees (finance, management, business, etc.) and to shun non=productive degrees (arts, gender studies, etc.). Why can't that argument also apply to young folks going into the coal industry?

 

[KarmaPolice]

It makes more sense to do a slow move.  Let a younger generation learn the renewable energy jobs and slowly phase out fossil fuels as the infrastructure becomes more widespread.  To do a virtual hard stop is needlessly painful.  

Isn't this mentality a reason we are in this position though?    What I am proposing we need is more of a quicker switch, but with backing and support for businesses and employees of these.   IMO it doesn't have to be painful - we have the people, money, ingenuity to figure this out.    Mostly we just drag our feet because of oil lobbiest, and just stalling on the questions like "what about the jobs?".  

 

[KarmaPolice]

You have good ideas here but I think Biden and those at the WH are playing fast and loose with the statement of creating good paying jobs with green energy.  In their perfect world, we will be weened off of it totally.  What happens to gas stations?talking about wiping out a lot of jobs and small businesses, this is a start.  I know nuclear jobs pay very well, but we won’t build more of those.  Gas and oil production jobs pay great also.  The offshore people make $150k + and only work about 36 weeks a year.   Coal jobs would be eliminated I assume.   Yes, green will have some high paying jobs also, but I can’t see them creating more than what we have now in the energy sector.  

But in these threads we are talking about how little those businesses make on gas.   Instead of gas pumps, can they have supercharger stations?   Supplement that income in another way?    

Maybe I am naive, but I just don't get how we can't figure this out.   Instead of gas and oil jobs, they will morph into jobs in infrastructure for the electric vehicles, solar, and wind.   We will need people to build and maintain those, businesses for those, etc..  

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm not a RE investor, but I'm stocking away cash for a potential crash and hoping to buy a vacation property at the beach, hoping sometime in 2026.  Fingers crossed.

Smart move.  Same.  

 

[joffer]

Trump is an idiot.  He’s a stain on the party.  I’m sure I’ll hear ‘but Biden”, he’s no better.  That is the state of politics today.

yet somehow Biden manages to not retweet white power videos.  huh.   both bad <> both equally bad.