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How do you define an alcoholic? (1 Viewer)
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Brownsfan
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Unfortunately this happens more than people realize. Plenty of other health problems as well. Rehab and AA have a low success rate, but low is better than none.
General Malaise
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Henry Ford
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Evilgrin 72
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HOW BOUT I MEET YOU THERE ?!??!!?
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jwb
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I think it depends. I feel the lines are blurred if you are looking to self assess. If alcohol is having a negative effect on one's life, and maybe leading one to seek answers, who cares about any official designation? It's things like "I'm not drinking every day" that allow people to accept situations they perhaps should not.
This sounds like me exactly. Unless on vacation or something, I never even considered drinking on, say, a Tuesday. Didn't register. But I could easily do a 12 pack at a bbq. Wedding? Forget it - I was the drunk guy.
I don't know how old you are, but for me, it's like a switch went off in my mid 40's (I'm 51 now). I prettymuch stopped enjoying being drunk. I don't know why this happened, but it did. I think it's because I'm naturally not an addictive person, and will stop short of things that hurt me. Like I mentioned, I started noticing the empties, and was like "wow, that's kind of a lot". And it was nothing huge - 5 beers on a Friday evening, 5-10 on a Saturday (the bigger the day, as in an event, or having people over in the pool, etc, the more I drank.) Another 4-5 on a Sunday while grilling or mowing the lawn. Prettymuch every weekend. My wife would drink right with me, at about 60-70% of my total. We'd have to start negotiating who was driving home from events.
Alcoholism doesn't run in my family (it does my wife's), but I do recall my father drinking more than he should a lot, and I remember how pathetic he looked/seemed being the drunk 50-something at his yearly bbq. I guess my brain said "be careful", and made it so being buzzed wasn't as much fun as it used to be. Hard to explain, really. I also know that I started viewing the drunk time *after* the event as torture. I don't fall asleep when drunk, so I'd be sitting there, too drunk to really enjoy anything, just waiting for it to pass. That made me slow it down naturally. But when i started slowing down, other people noticed and said "why? You don't have a drinking problem - you don't drink everyday, etc etc". But to ME, I did. I'm really happy I'm good with my 2-3, without going further. I feel like I get the best of both worlds.
No judgement here, by the way - this is all internal to me. If you enjoy those big drinking days and they truly don't bother you, then have at it. I do enjoy discussing this, though, as it's interesting to me.
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mr. furley
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Henry Ford
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Probably. I haven't had a drink in a church that was open at the time in probably 20 years.
Brownsfan
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Evilgrin 72
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Evilgrin 72
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You and I need to grab a bottle of bourbon and go to a Southern Baptist church and start passing out shots during the hymns. I'll have my people contact your people.
pats3in4
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I have friends who aren't physically addicted to alcohol and can go without it, but when they decide to drink together they don't mess around. We're talking downing multiple bottles of liquor, shot after shot. We're talking effed up blackout drunk, totally useless the next day until the sun sets and perhaps they do it again.
It's more a social/cultural binge drinking situation rather than outright addiction, but I do wonder if there is an underlying question: Do they like themselves more when they are this effed up drunk than when they are sober? If so, perhaps they're a lot closer to being alcoholics than they want to admit.
It's more a social/cultural binge drinking situation rather than outright addiction, but I do wonder if there is an underlying question: Do they like themselves more when they are this effed up drunk than when they are sober? If so, perhaps they're a lot closer to being alcoholics than they want to admit.
jwb
Footballguy
Me too, right up to about then, maybe a liiiitle older. Of course, I didn't/don't have a FFA rep to uphold. Things could easily be different if I did.
Cheers!
Evilgrin 72
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Evilgrin 72
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I always suspected the world was comprised of Muslims, Mormons and alcoholics. This just cinches it.
Evilgrin 72
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And don't give me Quakers either. They all drink privately, you just don't know it because they're not actively doing so when they pose for oatmeal box photos.
Alex P Keaton
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1) do you have a choice of whether or not to pick up a drink?
2) once you pick up a drink, can you stop when you want to?
"We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself. Step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself."
"If anyone questions whether he has entered this dangerous area, let him try leaving liquor alone for one year. If he is a real alcoholic and very far advanced, there is scant chance of success. In the early days of our drinking we occasionally remained sober for a year or more, becoming serious drinkers again later. Though you may be able to stop for a considerable period, you met yet be a potential alcoholic. We think few, to whom this book will appeal, can stay dry anything like a year. Some will be drunk the day after making their resolutions; most of them within a few weeks."
It's a scary disease. Have seen more than a few people die from it.
2) once you pick up a drink, can you stop when you want to?
"We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself. Step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself."
"If anyone questions whether he has entered this dangerous area, let him try leaving liquor alone for one year. If he is a real alcoholic and very far advanced, there is scant chance of success. In the early days of our drinking we occasionally remained sober for a year or more, becoming serious drinkers again later. Though you may be able to stop for a considerable period, you met yet be a potential alcoholic. We think few, to whom this book will appeal, can stay dry anything like a year. Some will be drunk the day after making their resolutions; most of them within a few weeks."
It's a scary disease. Have seen more than a few people die from it.
Brownsfan
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General Malaise
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JuniorGong
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General Malaise
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JuniorGong
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I believe that would be Mary but of course Jesus was inside there before Joseph
Henry Ford
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Evilgrin 72
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Evilgrin 72
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Make a Long Island Iced Tea in your mouth. Film it. Don't listen to the scaredy-cats. NEVER STOP PARTYING!
Parrothead
Footballguy
wife away for work till tomorrow, so I am grilling hot dogs, chopping onions, watching baseball, and pounding a 12-pack BY MYSELF!! 
If that makes me an alcoholic, then so be it.. At least I'll die happy
If that makes me an alcoholic, then so be it.. At least I'll die happy
If you are lucky the colon cancer will get you before the cirrhosis doeswife away for work till tomorrow, so I am grilling hot dogs, chopping onions, watching baseball, and pounding a 12-pack BY MYSELF!!
If that makes me an alcoholic, then so be it.. At least I'll die happy
IMAX 3D
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Yeah I probably drink 25-30 days a month, I’ll take the occasional day off. Most weekdays probably 1-3 drinks, weekends
. During football season I usually wait until halftime of the early game to start because I know once I crack that first beer I’m probably not stopping until we get the kids in bedany kind of party atmosphere, especially open bar type, I’m usually getting wasted. Never feel like I need a drink though, but ever since we had kids and they got a little older and turned into #######s I went from occasional binge drinker to drinking almost every day
simey
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"Let those winds of time blow over my head, I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead."wife away for work till tomorrow, so I am grilling hot dogs, chopping onions, watching baseball, and pounding a 12-pack BY MYSELF!!
If that makes me an alcoholic, then so be it.. At least I'll die happy
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kutta
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I’m 52 and not slowing down. If anything, I’m drinking more now than ever. It helps that the wife has a new-found love of tequila...
Things could be a hell of a lot worse.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I rarely drink, maybe once a month and only if out with friends or at a party. I have no beer in my house. I really don't like the taste of beer.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Yesterday I cut the lawn and edged everything was sweating my ### off and going to pound down the 6-8 I had in the garage fridge..just had a water instead thinking I may have a problem.
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AAABatteries
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culdeus
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This was mostly me before.Yeah I probably drink 25-30 days a month, I’ll take the occasional day off. Most weekdays probably 1-3 drinks, weekends
any kind of party atmosphere, especially open bar type, I’m usually getting wasted. Never feel like I need a drink though, but ever since we had kids and they got a little older and turned into #######s I went from occasional binge drinker to drinking almost every day
Chemical X
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Northern Voice
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See, this is a great joy to me, a nice cold beer in the sun on a patio in the summer or when working in the yard or watching a ballgame. It's ####### awesome and I can't imagine not having a beer or two (not 12) in those situations.
As such, I think the people who can go weeks without a drop, but then when they do drink get totally messed up, have an interesting relationship with alcohol (I'm trying not to be a judgy jerk here, it's just odd to me).
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Have any of your friends or family told you that your drinking is impacting your life (or their lives)? Because what you've described is definitely in the range of "alcoholic".Yeah I probably drink 25-30 days a month, I’ll take the occasional day off. Most weekdays probably 1-3 drinks, weekends
any kind of party atmosphere, especially open bar type, I’m usually getting wasted. Never feel like I need a drink though, but ever since we had kids and they got a little older and turned into #######s I went from occasional binge drinker to drinking almost every day
