benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I am high on him because of the talent around him
Fitz, Boldin, Bryant Johnson(former 1st rounder), Leonard Pope, and Edge.
Fitz, Boldin, Bryant Johnson(former 1st rounder), Leonard Pope, and Edge.
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How do you guys feel about Warner? (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
You blocking for him? That's my main concern, his ability to play this season injury free.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
True but with those WR's..if the defense isn't playing cover 2(so it won't get beat deep) then they are dumb. Plus with Edge....im not sure defenses will be able to blitz as much.
diesel7982
Footballguy
His OL will be ok. Warner himself however, will be brittle no matter who is blocking for him.I think hes good for 270/1.4 a game, while healthy; but Im not in the business of predicting when he'll get hurt.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Well I am wondering b/c i have basically an offer of Warner and Holt for Brady and Isaac Bruce
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
wow, that was so funny...not!
diesel7982
Footballguy
Then you are in the wrong place.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
i didn't ask for a suggestion on the trade....just how good people thought warner could be this season
diesel7982
Footballguy
then do a search for the weekly warner threads that pop up.
creeps1313
Footballguy
Under...Im saying Week 7 will be Lienarts first go round...and Warners last.
John Mamula
Moderator
solid analysis.
John Mamula
Moderator
Family Matters
Footballguy
Perhaps this has been covered but if you look at his per game numbers from last year you can see more reasons to get exited about his numbers. While Edge is a plus I don't expect them to run any more than before because they are a passing team first. Green doesn't exactly have a long track record of running excessively so I doubt that'll change mush. Lastly the O-line is still a better pass blocking team than run blocking. You've got to play to your strengths.Of course this is contengent on him staying healthy.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Last year the Ariz qb ranked #1 in FF. Edge will help with the blocking as well as keep defenses honest from just all out blitzing all day. I'm a Stl guy so Warner is a mortal god for me and although I haven't liked him the last couple years from a FF perspective I think he rebounds this year and keeps his health. I know you can't predict something like that but just a gut feeling.
I think he'll finish in the top 5.
Just my opinion.
I think he'll finish in the top 5.
Just my opinion.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Really? In what league(s)?
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
they finished first in passing offense average per game last season....in fact they had 20 yards more per game then the second best passing offense(NE)
Family Matters
Footballguy
True. But they did not have the #1 QB as was suggested.Now they did finish #1 in pass yards. But they also finished #12 in TD's and #27 in INT's. When added together that's not #1 stuff unless TD's and INT's improve. Of course in leagues that only award yards that's great. But most leagues do consider TD's and many INT's.
And as I said, I see Warner as a sleeper pick that can be top 5 if healthy for 16 games. Getting a solid back up will critical to protect against that risk. And Leinart is not the back up I'm referring to.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Quarterback FPs by team, 2005:
Code:
1 NE 329.152 IND 326.63 CIN 322.454 ARI 315.555 ATL 314.16 STL 307.17 PHI 301.458 JAX 300.459 SEA 289.3510 NYG 281.511 TEN 277.8512 SD 275.0513 OAK 274.8514 DAL 272.9515 DEN 271.816 KC 267.317 CAR 266.7518 WAS 262.7519 NO 257.0520 PIT 254.3521 GB 25422 MIN 253.923 MIA 252.5524 BAL 239.725 CLE 224.0526 BUF 219.6527 TB 216.928 HOU 215.929 DET 212.3530 NYJ 207.431 CHI 141.8532 SF 137.55Blackjacks
Footballguy
I have Warner and McNown with 291 points when added together as where Palmer is sitting at 288 at the #1 spot.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Like I said earlier, if healthy he's a postential top 5. Definately a sleeper pick. But I will sleep better with Manning or Palmer as my QB.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
if you look at his game by game stats......he didn't pass for over 250 yards in 2 of his 10 games and in those 2 games he had limited attempts.
Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
Who wouldn't? You do realize, however, that only two teams get to have those QB's and that you have to invest a much higher pick to get them than Warner? That said, I think Warner is a great value in drafts but I'd certainly only consider him if I were looking to Platoon a couple of QB's from that same tier or if I could get him cheap as a backup for a QB with a better injury history. Warner's upside is quite high but so it his risk factor.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Warner's ADP is very appealing. Without risking too high of a pick, you'll probably get a top-7/8 QB if he stays healthy (possibly top-5). As far as the injury thing, I believe most people are assuming too much.
Predicting certain injury doesn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO. I'm not sure, myself, but if Warner falls far enough, I'll be all over him in a redraft. Dynasty is a little different, but it's highly unlikely the Cards will make the switch to Leinart if they're winning. I could easily see Leinart waiting 2 full years like Carson Palmer did.
Predicting certain injury doesn't make a whole lot of sense, IMO. I'm not sure, myself, but if Warner falls far enough, I'll be all over him in a redraft. Dynasty is a little different, but it's highly unlikely the Cards will make the switch to Leinart if they're winning. I could easily see Leinart waiting 2 full years like Carson Palmer did.
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