How do you guys rank these WRs? (1 Viewer)

[creeps1313]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne.

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season?

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play.

What do you guys think?

 

[wannabee]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne.

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season?

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play.

What do you guys think?

what are the scoring requirements? Assuming dynasty.If PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Driver

Smoss

Ward

If no PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

SMoss

Driver

 

[-OZ-]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne.

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season?

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play.

What do you guys think?

what are the scoring requirements? Assuming dynasty.If PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Driver

Smoss

Ward

If no PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

SMoss

Driver

I don't get why you have Ward above Moss in nonPPR, but below in PPR. Seems to me that we can anticipate Ward getting more receptions than Moss this year. I'll go, redraft:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

Driver

Smoss

 

[MLBrandow]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne. 

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season? 

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play. 

What do you guys think?

DriverWayne

SMoss

Ward

Chambers

I honestly think Driver/Wayne/Moss should all be interchangable, but Wayne is a #2, and Moss has actual competition now. So to me, Driver is the winner.

Don't be the fool who drafts one of the NFL's most prolific deep-pass fumblefingers to a still-injured QB who's no good at anything but deep throws.

Miami is an absolute disaster waiting to happen on all facets of offense. Stay far, far, far away and don't buy a nickel of the hype.

Ward will be solid as ever. The development of Miller at TE and slight questions in the backfield along with the maturation of Roethlisberger should ge him much closer to those '02-'03 numbers with vintage Maddox.

But don't be the fool who drafts Chambers over all of these solid options. He's one of the most talented WRs in the league, but has the mindset of a fringe #2, and as a six year veteran, he's not going to magically become a top tier receiving threat.

The same people downing the Chambers juice were the ones predicting Kerry Collins to throw 30 TDs in Oakland. Let someone else overpay.

 

[wannabee]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne. 

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season? 

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play. 

What do you guys think?

what are the scoring requirements? Assuming dynasty.If PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Driver

Smoss

Ward

If no PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

SMoss

Driver

I don't get why you have Ward above Moss in nonPPR, but below in PPR. Seems to me that we can anticipate Ward getting more receptions than Moss this year. I'll go, redraft:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

Driver

Smoss

I just have a feeling about the Pitt and Wash offenses. I suspect Ward will get more TDs without Bettis around and Moss will get more catches than Ward. This should be an interesting year for both. Much change.Are you rankings PPR or non-PPR? I wonder because of where you put Driver.

 

[NOSRAC247]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne.

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season?

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play.

What do you guys think?

In the skill and athletism catagory, I put Santana up there with the best. He's definetly got more skill and agility and quickness over all those. Ward is up there b/c he's prob the best all-around receiver in the league. Drivers stock is falling, although not by much with Favre still hangin'. Reggie Wayne is just a good receievr with the best quarterback in the past 25 years throwing him the ball. Chambers is more like a TO, dominant and strong. Here's how I'd rank the players you have, in terms of fantasy:1) Chambers

2) Wayne

3) Ward

4) Moss

5) Driver

 

[mbuehner]

Don't be the fool who drafts one of the NFL's most prolific deep-pass fumblefingers to a still-injured QB who's no good at anything but deep throws.

I dont happen to care what else my WRs QB does so long as he makes those deep throws. Culpepper is 1 season removed from the highest fantasy total in NFL history- missing Randy Moss for a good part of that season. I could care less if he isnt the most solid NFL QB in the world, the guy is a fantasy goldmine and if he returns to even 75% of what he has been, Chambers is a top 10 lock.

 

[jurb26]

Redraft:

Chambers

Driver

Wayne

Ward

Moss

Dynasty:

Chambers

Moss

Wayne

Driver

Ward

 

[EBF]

Chambers is quite a bit overrated right now. The guy makes some amazing plays, but his career high in receiving yards is 1118 and he only caught 48.4% of his targets last year. Culpepper should help, but he's looked like an average QB without Moss.

Chambers will still have some big games and make some big plays, but I sure wouldn't take him over Hines Ward. I probably wouldn't take him over Donald Driver or Santana Moss either.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Chambers is quite a bit overrated right now. The guy makes some amazing plays, but his career high in receiving yards is 1118 and he only caught 48.4% of his targets last year. Culpepper should help, but he's looked like an average QB without Moss.

Chambers will still have some big games and make some big plays, but I sure wouldn't take him over Hines Ward. I probably wouldn't take him over Donald Driver or Santana Moss either.

He has had 11 tds in two of the last three years, this with absolute scrubs at QB. Once Culpepper gets back, he should be able to at least duplicate that. Culpepper throws a good deep ball and knows how to throw the jump ball well in the redzone. Chambers is NOT overrated. He'll increase yardage and at least stay the same in tds. Chambers

Driver

Wayne

Ward

Moss

 

[srnohav]

redraft

Chambers

Ward

Moss

Wayne

Driver

Chambers has some amazing ability and finds the enzone. depending when Culpeeper gets his rythem going depends on is Chambers breaks the top 10, but regardless he will beat out the others on your list.

I would not put Driver as high as people are thinking. he is good for 1200 yds receiving and 9 TD's, that is it. He has been the #1 guy in numerous situations, and he is just good, not great, he really struggles against top corners. Everyone thinks that jsut because he has Farve he is going to be top 10, Walker went down early last year, and he had 5 td's, why will he all of a sudden go nuts? they might be starting two rookie guards. remember what happenend last year to Farve when he had two new guards playing. he was always on the run. and people are quick to point out the injuries, well Ahman Green did not go down until the 5th game, and he was not not doing very well before the injury. I wacthed every game last year and Driver is not the guy that will carry your team, he is a very solid #2 Wr for your team, but nothing more

and wen I say 1200 yds with 9td's, I mean on the high side. there is not near as much upside as the other guys on your list, that is why I have him ranked last

 

[MLBrandow]

Don't be the fool who drafts one of the NFL's most prolific deep-pass fumblefingers to a still-injured QB who's no good at anything but deep throws.

I dont happen to care what else my WRs QB does so long as he makes those deep throws. Culpepper is 1 season removed from the highest fantasy total in NFL history- missing Randy Moss for a good part of that season. I could care less if he isnt the most solid NFL QB in the world, the guy is a fantasy goldmine and if he returns to even 75% of what he has been, Chambers is a top 10 lock.

Did you happen to miss the first half of the sentence you quoted? Chambers can't catch the deep ball with any consistency.I'd paste you some of KC Joyner's stat's but they are not free and so not allowed on this forum.

But like I said.... don't be that fool.

Chambers is quite a bit overrated right now. The guy makes some amazing plays, but his career high in receiving yards is 1118 and he only caught 48.4% of his targets last year. Culpepper should help, but he's looked like an average QB without Moss.

Chambers will still have some big games and make some big plays, but I sure wouldn't take him over Hines Ward. I probably wouldn't take him over Donald Driver or Santana Moss either.

You guys have to remember, this isn't Madden. It's the real game. He's far, far, far away from a "lock" for top 10.

 

[EBF]

Chambers is quite a bit overrated right now. The guy makes some amazing plays, but his career high in receiving yards is 1118 and he only caught 48.4% of his targets last year. Culpepper should help, but he's looked like an average QB without Moss.

Chambers will still have some big games and make some big plays, but I sure wouldn't take him over Hines Ward. I probably wouldn't take him over Donald Driver or Santana Moss either.

He has had 11 tds in two of the last three years, this with absolute scrubs at QB. Once Culpepper gets back, he should be able to at least duplicate that. Culpepper throws a good deep ball and knows how to throw the jump ball well in the redzone. Chambers is NOT overrated. He'll increase yardage and at least stay the same in tds. Chambers

Driver

Wayne

Ward

Moss

2005:Chris Chambers - 166 targets - 82 catches, 1118 yards, 11 TDs

Donald Driver - 145 targets - 86 catches, 1221 yards, 5 TDs

Santana Moss - 134 targets - 84 catches, 1483 yards, 9 TDs

Hines Ward - 115 targets - 69 catches, 975 yards, 11 TDs

As you can see, Driver and Moss had more catches and receiving yards than Chambers despite having at least 20 fewer targets.

Ward had less yardage and catches, but had more TDs and a much higher yards and catches per target average.

I think of Chambers in the same way that I think of Eli Manning. His huge number of opportunities last season largely obscured the fact that he really wasn't that effective. If he's going to maintain his elite status from 2005 then he's going to need a lot of targets and/or he's going to have to improve his yards per target average.

I think there's some cause for optimism now that Culpepper is around, but I still think we're likely to see a dip in Chambers' numbers.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Chambers is quite a bit overrated right now. The guy makes some amazing plays, but his career high in receiving yards is 1118 and he only caught 48.4% of his targets last year. Culpepper should help, but he's looked like an average QB without Moss.

Chambers will still have some big games and make some big plays, but I sure wouldn't take him over Hines Ward. I probably wouldn't take him over Donald Driver or Santana Moss either.

He has had 11 tds in two of the last three years, this with absolute scrubs at QB. Once Culpepper gets back, he should be able to at least duplicate that. Culpepper throws a good deep ball and knows how to throw the jump ball well in the redzone. Chambers is NOT overrated. He'll increase yardage and at least stay the same in tds. Chambers

Driver

Wayne

Ward

Moss

2005:Chris Chambers - 166 targets - 82 catches, 1118 yards, 11 TDs

Donald Driver - 145 targets - 86 catches, 1221 yards, 5 TDs

Santana Moss - 134 targets - 84 catches, 1483 yards, 9 TDs

Hines Ward - 115 targets - 69 catches, 975 yards, 11 TDs

As you can see, Driver and Moss had more catches and receiving yards than Chambers despite having at least 20 fewer targets.

Ward had less yardage and catches, but had more TDs and a much higher yards and catches per target average.

I think of Chambers in the same way that I think of Eli Manning. His huge number of opportunities last season largely obscured the fact that he really wasn't that effective. If he's going to maintain his elite status from 2005 then he's going to need a lot of targets and/or he's going to have to improve his yards per target average.

I think there's some cause for optimism now that Culpepper is around, but I still think we're likely to see a dip in Chambers' numbers.

Do you think that adding a more accurate QB might improve those numbers? He won't need the targets if he can get a more precise QB. The fact that R. Brown should keep defenses honest will only add to his output, too. I don't think Culpepper is a great NFL QB, but he's proven he can be an accurate passer, and is definetly an upgrade from Fiedler, Frerrote, Rosenfels, and other random QBs that Chambers had to endure. His Td totals have been pretty consistent, minus one season, where he still put up 7 td in 15 games. He's only missed one game in the last 3 yrs and he's a threat to run the ball.I like those odds, vs the other wrs on this list.

 

[-OZ-]

FBGs rankings are as such....

Chamber

Ward

Wayne

Driver

SMoss

I tend to put SMoss higher than at least Driver....and maybe even Wayne.

Can Favre come back...Wayne is still the #2 guy...Is Pit going to continue throwing like it did in the post season?

Moss still has an old man throwing to him, but with the additions of Randel and Lloyd, seems like he wont be double EVERY single play.

What do you guys think?

what are the scoring requirements? Assuming dynasty.If PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Driver

Smoss

Ward

If no PPR:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

SMoss

Driver

I don't get why you have Ward above Moss in nonPPR, but below in PPR. Seems to me that we can anticipate Ward getting more receptions than Moss this year. I'll go, redraft:

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

Driver

Smoss

I just have a feeling about the Pitt and Wash offenses. I suspect Ward will get more TDs without Bettis around and Moss will get more catches than Ward. This should be an interesting year for both. Much change.Are you rankings PPR or non-PPR? I wonder because of where you put Driver.

We disagree, but that's why we're here.I see Washington spreading the receptions much more than last year, while the running game doesn't lose much, if anything. Pittshburgh will throw more, once they get Ben back. Without a great #2, but with enough to keep defenses honest, and geared up to stop the run, Ward will have a nice year.

I probably have Chambers too high.

PPR, I know, Driver might be a great value this year, I'm just not sold on Favre returning to form.

One thing I take note of is how underrated Ward is on some of these lists.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Redraft:

Driver

Wayne

Chambers

Ward

SMoss

 

[Shiver44]

Chambers

Wayne

Ward

Driver

S. Moss

 

[hpnepon]

I don't get how no one is ranking S. Moss higher than last or second last. How do you come up with this.

S. Moss had 1483 yrd, 17.7 avg, and 9 TD's, this ranked him second in the league for yards behind only steve smith, and ahead of Chad Johnson, Larry Fitz, and Anquan, he averages 92.7 ypg. How does this not warrant a higher ranking. Plus Al Sanders being there, other weapons that will draw some coverage away. So Brunell is his QB, Moss creates all these huge passes by himself anyways. Who didn't see them throw that hitch pass 4 or 5 times a game, where Moss turned atleast 1 of them everytime into a 50 yard touchdown.

Chamber ranked 12 in WR for yardage, and had 11 TD's, but these all came in the last games of the season (I know cause he helped me win my league)

Ward ranks 21 in WR, with only 975 rec, adn 11 TD's. Great player, best blocker in the world, but come on, the steelers only run, and ward has never been huge impact.

Wayne had only 1055 yrds, ranked 16th, and had 5 TD's. Ok he plays with Manning, and we have seen him blow up before so this is more debatable.

Driver? Favre is done, no run game, and proof from last year that Driver is not a #1 guy who will make a huge impact.

Give Moss some love

I rank'em

Wayne

Moss

Chambers

Driver

Ward

 

[ChampBailey24]

I don't get how no one is ranking S. Moss higher than last or second last. How do you come up with this.

S. Moss had 1483 yrd, 17.7 avg, and 9 TD's, this ranked him second in the league for yards behind only steve smith, and ahead of Chad Johnson, Larry Fitz, and Anquan, he averages 92.7 ypg. How does this not warrant a higher ranking. Plus Al Sanders being there, other weapons that will draw some coverage away. So Brunell is his QB, Moss creates all these huge passes by himself anyways. Who didn't see them throw that hitch pass 4 or 5 times a game, where Moss turned atleast 1 of them everytime into a 50 yard touchdown.

Chamber ranked 12 in WR for yardage, and had 11 TD's, but these all came in the last games of the season (I know cause he helped me win my league)

Ward ranks 21 in WR, with only 975 rec, adn 11 TD's. Great player, best blocker in the world, but come on, the steelers only run, and ward has never been huge impact.

Wayne had only 1055 yrds, ranked 16th, and had 5 TD's. Ok he plays with Manning, and we have seen him blow up before so this is more debatable.

Driver? Favre is done, no run game, and proof from last year that Driver is not a #1 guy who will make a huge impact.

Give Moss some love

I rank'em

Wayne

Moss

Chambers

Driver

Ward

Because there was no WRs to get yards away from Moss last year. He was the Skins' only weapon. Now there are 2 other decent WR2 or solid WR3. Lloyd and ARE will get touches too.

 

[hpnepon]

I don't get how no one is ranking S. Moss higher than last or second last. How do you come up with this.

S. Moss had 1483 yrd, 17.7 avg, and 9 TD's, this ranked him second in the league for yards behind only steve smith, and ahead of Chad Johnson, Larry Fitz, and Anquan, he averages 92.7 ypg. How does this not warrant a higher ranking. Plus Al Sanders being there, other weapons that will draw some coverage away. So Brunell is his QB, Moss creates all these huge passes by himself anyways. Who didn't see them throw that hitch pass 4 or 5 times a game, where Moss turned atleast 1 of them everytime into a 50 yard touchdown.

Chamber ranked 12 in WR for yardage, and had 11 TD's, but these all came in the last games of the season (I know cause he helped me win my league)

Ward ranks 21 in WR, with only 975 rec, adn 11 TD's. Great player, best blocker in the world, but come on, the steelers only run, and ward has never been huge impact.

Wayne had only 1055 yrds, ranked 16th, and had 5 TD's. Ok he plays with Manning, and we have seen him blow up before so this is more debatable.

Driver? Favre is done, no run game, and proof from last year that Driver is not a #1 guy who will make a huge impact.

Give Moss some love

I rank'em

Wayne

Moss

Chambers

Driver

Ward

Because there was no WRs to get yards away from Moss last year. He was the Skins' only weapon. Now there are 2 other decent WR2 or solid WR3. Lloyd and ARE will get touches too.

So you think Lloyd will get more than his one highlight real catch agame, and all of a sudden ARE well be a receiver after how many years in Pitt. It was a mstake paying this guy so much. He's nothing more than a 3rd WR who can throw some trick plays once and awhile. Moss will get his catches just like last year, a steve smith on a much smaller scale of course.

 

[Yitbos69]

Redraft

1) Chambers (WITH C-PEP)

2) Moss

3) Ward

4) Driver

5) Wayne

Keeper

1) Moss

2) Chambers

3) Wayne

4) Ward

5) Driver

 

[ChampBailey24]

I don't get how no one is ranking S. Moss higher than last or second last. How do you come up with this.

S. Moss had 1483 yrd, 17.7 avg, and 9 TD's, this ranked him second in the league for yards behind only steve smith, and ahead of Chad Johnson, Larry Fitz, and Anquan, he averages 92.7 ypg. How does this not warrant a higher ranking. Plus Al Sanders being there, other weapons that will draw some coverage away. So Brunell is his QB, Moss creates all these huge passes by himself anyways. Who didn't see them throw that hitch pass 4 or 5 times a game, where Moss turned atleast 1 of them everytime into a 50 yard touchdown.

Chamber ranked 12 in WR for yardage, and had 11 TD's, but these all came in the last games of the season (I know cause he helped me win my league)

Ward ranks 21 in WR, with only 975 rec, adn 11 TD's. Great player, best blocker in the world, but come on, the steelers only run, and ward has never been huge impact.

Wayne had only 1055 yrds, ranked 16th, and had 5 TD's. Ok he plays with Manning, and we have seen him blow up before so this is more debatable.

Driver? Favre is done, no run game, and proof from last year that Driver is not a #1 guy who will make a huge impact.

Give Moss some love

I rank'em

Wayne

Moss

Chambers

Driver

Ward

Because there was no WRs to get yards away from Moss last year. He was the Skins' only weapon. Now there are 2 other decent WR2 or solid WR3. Lloyd and ARE will get touches too.

So you think Lloyd will get more than his one highlight real catch agame, and all of a sudden ARE well be a receiver after how many years in Pitt. It was a mstake paying this guy so much. He's nothing more than a 3rd WR who can throw some trick plays once and awhile. Moss will get his catches just like last year, a steve smith on a much smaller scale of course.

ARE is a really solid WR3 and Lloyd is a decent WR2 so with 2 decent WRs and a solid TE...I expect from Moss a fairly big dropoff.

 

[jurb26]

ARE is a really solid WR3 and Lloyd is a decent WR2 so with 2 decent WRs and a solid TE...I expect from Moss a fairly big dropoff.

Not to mentions the added touches to Portis and the other RBs.

 

[ChampBailey24]

ARE is a really solid WR3 and Lloyd is a decent WR2 so with 2 decent WRs and a solid TE...I expect from Moss a fairly big dropoff.

Not to mentions the added touches to Portis and the other RBs.

Yeah...no way he repeats.

 

[OldMilwaukee]

To many question marks for me to slot Chambers were he is!

I'll take Wayne, Ward, Driver and S. Moss ahead of him at this point in the season.

I would also take Branch, Horn, Mush ahead of him.

 

[KCC]

Redraft:

Driver

Wayne

Chambers

Ward

SMoss