How does Haley's comments regarding KC/Fantasy Football make sense (1 Viewer)

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Chiefs coach Todd Haley acknowledged Friday that the team's backfield rotation isn't a great situation for fantasy footballers.

"It’s a good problem to have," he said. "Now, in the fantasy football world I could see it being a bad problem to have. But we’re worried about the Kansas City Chiefs and what we need to do to win." If Haley would play the best player, everyone would be more successful. Including the Kansas City Chiefs.

per Rotoworld

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Uhhh.... Putting the best running back out on the field more often is clearly also better for the Chiefs and gives them the best chance to win. This guys just doesn't have a good grasp on reality, does he? Of course it would be better for FF owners of Charles as well... but Thomas Jones offers NOTHING better than Charles for that team. I understand using him to give Charles a breather... maybe even some goal line packages (even though I think JC is a better short yardage back too... he is incredibly explosive through the hole)... However, giving them equal carries when Thomas Jones is performing below average for the league and Jamaal Charles is outdoing the entire league in YPC.

 

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You guys don't have all the information that Haley does so I don't understand how you can sit back here and armchair coach this team like oyu do. I mean, Haley is keenly aware that Charles will suffer an ACL tear on his 173rd carry of the season.... did you know that? No. You didn't. That's why HALEY is the coach and you people aren't.

 

[greggorymac]

Don't try to rationalize anything that comes out of Haley's mouth. How he can justify an equal workload given TJ's performance in comparison to JC's makes no sense. I also don't understand his motivational ploys with the depth chart? My guess is that he will get another shot next year and will not be a head coach in the 2012 season. In the meantime, JC will not be given the opportunity to show his full potential. Could you imagine the damage he would do if he was given 20-25 touches per week? I'm all for spelling the starter to keep him fresh, but Haley's 50/50 workload split is foolish.

 

[Clifford]

You guys don't have all the information that Haley does so I don't understand how you can sit back here and armchair coach this team like oyu do. I mean, Haley is keenly aware that Charles will suffer an ACL tear on his 173rd carry of the season.... did you know that? No. You didn't. That's why HALEY is the coach and you people aren't.

POY (post of the year)

 

[jamil]

Don't try to rationalize anything that comes out of Haley's mouth. How he can justify an equal workload given TJ's performance in comparison to JC's makes no sense. I also don't understand his motivational ploys with the depth chart? My guess is that he will get another shot next year and will not be a head coach in the 2012 season. In the meantime, JC will not be given the opportunity to show his full potential. Could you imagine the damage he would do if he was given 20-25 touches per week? I'm all for spelling the starter to keep him fresh, but Haley's 50/50 workload split is foolish.

do you really think he could last with that kind of workload? don't even think he got the full load in college.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

You guys do realize JC had offseason shoulder surgery, don't you?

 

[John 14:6]

You guys do realize JC had offseason shoulder surgery, don't you?

I do.

 

[basher]

Two of the best offensive players in KC (if not absolutely the two best) are in the backfield. Both are going to continue to get PT because it is best for the team and probably best for both individual players. Just because Chris Johnson is a lead back doesn't mean Charles is capable of matching. In fact, there has been one chris johnson in how many years of people using small/explosive backs? This is a decision about keeping both players fresh and able to do what they do best for the team ... call Haley crazy all you want (and well ... he is) but this isn't a bad football decision

EDIT: also, it is foolish to say that Thomas Jones offers nothing to this team. His straight forward, north/south style is exactly what the team needs regularly and something that Charles cannot offer. Finally, you base your entire conclusion on both of their YPC after game one. That is downright stupid.

 

[FallenHero32]

Two of the best offensive players in KC (if not absolutely the two best) are in the backfield. Both are going to continue to get PT because it is best for the team and probably best for both individual players. Just because Chris Johnson is a lead back doesn't mean Charles is capable of matching. In fact, there has been one chris johnson in how many years of people using small/explosive backs? This is a decision about keeping both players fresh and able to do what they do best for the team ... call Haley crazy all you want (and well ... he is) but this isn't a bad football decisionEDIT: also, it is foolish to say that Thomas Jones offers nothing to this team. His straight forward, north/south style is exactly what the team needs regularly and something that Charles cannot offer. Finally, you base your entire conclusion on both of their YPC after game one. That is downright stupid.

And you know, the fact that JC ran for like a billion yards in 8 games at the end of last season. That MIGHT also be taken into account here.

 

[FallenHero32]

The simple explanation is that Haley is facing the Charles owner in his league and he wants to win.

 

[The Jacket]

Some of you are so clueless when it comes to ACTUAL football. I'll quote myself:

I cannot overplay the conditions combined with the score, I just can’t overplay it. If you look at anything else, you could see things unclear. Every time the ball was handed off I was holding my breath, handing off. Normally you don’t think that way. I know I don’t think that way. It went from being humid to wet, the conditions were ripe for the ball being on the ground.

Translation: give to the rock-solid veteran who carried the ball 331 times last year and didn't lose a SINGLE FUMBLE (!); a guy who's lost ONE fumble in THREE YEARS!

Not the guy who lost 3 fumbles in 190 carries last year, and 2 fumbles the year before in only 67 carries.

In ridiculous weather, give it to the guy who fumbles once every 51.4 carries, or the guy who last lost a fumble on September 22nd...2008! Almost 600 carries since the guy last put the ball on the ground and gave it to the other team.

Wake up and smell the coffee, folks. Winning games > padding stats. Jamaal Charles is going to get the ball a LOT going forward. As long as it's not a monsoon!

Jones DOES do some things better than Charles. Not fancy long TDs or high YPC averages, but things like the above are important to NFL head coaches. Leadership. Pass protection. Getting 3 yards rather than getting either 8 or -4. Charles will get plenty of carries going forward. Once again, in a torrential downpour -- in a game they had 0 turnovers and won -- Jones was obviously going to get some work; and he got FIFTY-percent. Not 60. Not 70. Just 50. Half. If he's only getting half in a game like that, he's not going to get 50+% going forward.

 

[SteelerMurf]

remember when everyone couldn't understand why Marion Barber wasn't an every down all game back?

remember what happened when he became that every down all game back? Did he even last one year?

 

[VaTerp]

remember when everyone couldn't understand why Marion Barber wasn't an every down all game back?remember what happened when he became that every down all game back? Did he even last one year?

Yes, because Charles and MBIII are so similar.How about this one. Remember when everyone was saying Chris Johnson couldnt handle a full workload? That turned out ok last year.

 

[Sam Quentin]

I thought about illuminating people here, but I won't waste the energy because the truth has been spoken and siomply will not be grasped.

 

[footballsavvy]

remember when everyone couldn't understand why Marion Barber wasn't an every down all game back?remember what happened when he became that every down all game back? Did he even last one year?

I remember when JC was the every down back. It really wasn't that long ago. Barber was never good as an every down back, it had nothing to do with injury. Besides these guys don't even know what a full load is. 15 years ago a full load was 400 carries, now all of a sudden its a super heavy workload to get anywhere near 300? JC can handle 250-270 no problem. Injuries happen to guys who carry 100 times per season (reggie bush) and to guys who carry 350 times per season (steven jackson). They could just give him 1 carry per game and he would probably make it his entire career without getting injured.

 

[basher]

remember when everyone couldn't understand why Marion Barber wasn't an every down all game back?

remember what happened when he became that every down all game back? Did he even last one year?

Yes, because Charles and MBIII are so similar.How about this one. Remember when everyone was saying Chris Johnson couldnt handle a full workload? That turned out ok last year.

Again people should not use CJ as a comparison point. How many other small backs have been able to handle the primary role aside from him over the past 20 years? The only one close is Warrick Dunn and even he struggled with being the guy. Chris Johnson isn't the rule nor the standard ... he is the exception

 

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I thought about illuminating people here, but I won't waste the energy

I appreciate it.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Two of the best offensive players in KC (if not absolutely the two best) are in the backfield. Both are going to continue to get PT because it is best for the team and probably best for both individual players. Just because Chris Johnson is a lead back doesn't mean Charles is capable of matching. In fact, there has been one chris johnson in how many years of people using small/explosive backs? This is a decision about keeping both players fresh and able to do what they do best for the team ... call Haley crazy all you want (and well ... he is) but this isn't a bad football decisionEDIT: also, it is foolish to say that Thomas Jones offers nothing to this team. His straight forward, north/south style is exactly what the team needs regularly and something that Charles cannot offer. Finally, you base your entire conclusion on both of their YPC after game one. That is downright stupid.

Uhh... small lead backs outside of Chris Johnson that have had success? Off the top of my head...within the past 20 years..... Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas, Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Ladainian Tomlinson, Maurice Jones-Drew... ect... oh yeah... and THOMAS JONES! Basically the best backs in the last 20 years. Some of those guys may be 10 lbs heavier than Charles... some aren't. However Charles is taller than every single one of them. You guys act like Jamaal Charles weighs 140 lbs or something. The man is 6' 200 lbs, incredibily fast, strong, flexible, and athletic. Jamaal Charles Can't run north/south? lmao.... have you actually ever watched him play? Once again... you are way off. You act like he is bouncing around like Barry Sanders back there. Did you see his 56 yard TD run in week one? Right with the scheme of the play until he got into the open field. Watch his highlights from last year... most of his huge runs came straight up the gut.

 

[Babu Bhatt2]

More Charles owner whining. This sort of split was obvious ten miles away before the season started, but everyone had bliners on.

 

[footballnerd]

Has anyone seen Chris Johnson on the last NFL Networks Sound FX show? The guy is literally chuckling at the bottom of every pile he gets tackled by. Its hilarious.

 

[RBM]

At this point, words just dont even do justice to the decision by Haley to not feature this kid, who pretty much tore the league apart last year.

 

[rgmnchr]

At this point, words just dont even do justice to the decision by Haley to not feature this kid, who pretty much tore the league apart last year.

Pretty sure the Cheifs won. I'd say Haley got at least 1 game right. Ill say it for Haley " F U and your fantasy team"

 

[Das Boot]

Week 1:

KC 21 - SD 14

Tough crowd

 

[Mark Wimer]

More Charles owner whining. This sort of split was obvious ten miles away before the season started, but everyone had bliners on.

Not everyone...LOL.

Hey Chase,

Sorry I missed out on this response - here's my take on the explosive performance level of Charles vs. Denver, Cincy, etc.

The passing game was a shambles in K.C. last year. They lost Gonzales to ATL and had no viable replacement. Dwayne Bowe had issues with authority and was generally not motivated to play at a high level IMO. Chris Chambers is a half-decent possession receiver at this point, but hardly an explosive playmaker.

Cassel struggled in his first season in K.C.

So, as I have laid out in other Charles threads, the situation at the end of the year in K.C. amounted to a "perfect storm" for Charles. He was, literally, the only reliable playmaker on the team by the end of the year.

Bowe didn't score a TD after week 9, was in and out of the lineup, and he was dreadful in reception %

9 KC JAX 0 0 0 10 4 74 0 7.4

10 KC OAK 0 0 0 11 6 91 0 9.1

15 KC CLE 0 0 0 10 4 56 0 5.6

16 KC CIN 0 0 0 12 9 61 0 6.1

17 KC DEN 0 0 0 1 1 6 0 0.6

Chambers at least played, but only scored two TDs from week 10 on (2 week nine, then one vs. SD and one vs. CLE).

Larry Johnson was gone after week 7, and landed in CIN for the second half of the season.

So, what happened is that Charles got fed an inordinate amount of touches because of the state of the K.C. roster/special circumstances. That's why he piled up such enormous numbers vs. DEN, CLE, etc.

This year, the team has Thomas Jones in the mix at RB. A hybrid RB/WR in Dexter McCluster. The WR situation and the TE situation hasn't changed, but Cassel at least looked half-decent in preseason week 2.

Bottom line here, for me, is that Charles enjoyed a rare segment of one season in which he was the focus of the K.C. offense. From everything we've seen this year to date, the team is determined to NOT go down that path again. I truly doubt that he'll see more than 50-55% of the RB touches this year, with Jones and McCluster in that mix (McCluster vulturing receptions in 3rd down situations and on other downs, too). Jones probably scores more TDs.

Charles' ADP is out of proportion with his likely opportunities in K.C. He simply won't see enough action as things stand now. I know some people expect Jones to fall apart/become ineffective but I think IF that does happen (late in the season like last year), it will ALREADY be too late for fantasy owners who paid a premium pick for Charles: a part-time RB who isn't the goal-line option in town.

My .

MW

 

[griff321]

Some of you are so clueless when it comes to ACTUAL football. I'll quote myself:

I cannot overplay the conditions combined with the score, I just can’t overplay it. If you look at anything else, you could see things unclear. Every time the ball was handed off I was holding my breath, handing off. Normally you don’t think that way. I know I don’t think that way. It went from being humid to wet, the conditions were ripe for the ball being on the ground.

Translation: give to the rock-solid veteran who carried the ball 331 times last year and didn't lose a SINGLE FUMBLE (!); a guy who's lost ONE fumble in THREE YEARS!

Not the guy who lost 3 fumbles in 190 carries last year, and 2 fumbles the year before in only 67 carries.

In ridiculous weather, give it to the guy who fumbles once every 51.4 carries, or the guy who last lost a fumble on September 22nd...2008! Almost 600 carries since the guy last put the ball on the ground and gave it to the other team.

Wake up and smell the coffee, folks. Winning games > padding stats. Jamaal Charles is going to get the ball a LOT going forward. As long as it's not a monsoon!

Jones DOES do some things better than Charles. Not fancy long TDs or high YPC averages, but things like the above are important to NFL head coaches. Leadership. Pass protection. Getting 3 yards rather than getting either 8 or -4. Charles will get plenty of carries going forward. Once again, in a torrential downpour -- in a game they had 0 turnovers and won -- Jones was obviously going to get some work; and he got FIFTY-percent. Not 60. Not 70. Just 50. Half. If he's only getting half in a game like that, he's not going to get 50+% going forward.

Then relegate Jones to a Chester Taylor in MN role. It's not as if most people are saying that Charles should have the ball every single play, but a 50-50 share with a guy like Jones is insane. Throw in the 1 carry that his very talented hybrid guy McCluster had, and it's hard to understand why Haley sees a need to feed the rock to Jones so many times. Your argument that they won the game, so Haley's moves are brilliant holds about as much water as a colander. I'm sure the D finally stepping up had nothing to do with that win. Playmakers like Charles and McCluster must have broken loose only because they were fresh. I'll be looking forward to what the arguments will be when the losses start to pile up.

 

[r0llin_game]

Pretty sure the TE situation changed when they drafted Moeaki and he played rather solid on MNF.

 

[basher]

Two of the best offensive players in KC (if not absolutely the two best) are in the backfield. Both are going to continue to get PT because it is best for the team and probably best for both individual players. Just because Chris Johnson is a lead back doesn't mean Charles is capable of matching. In fact, there has been one chris johnson in how many years of people using small/explosive backs? This is a decision about keeping both players fresh and able to do what they do best for the team ... call Haley crazy all you want (and well ... he is) but this isn't a bad football decisionEDIT: also, it is foolish to say that Thomas Jones offers nothing to this team. His straight forward, north/south style is exactly what the team needs regularly and something that Charles cannot offer. Finally, you base your entire conclusion on both of their YPC after game one. That is downright stupid.

Uhh... small lead backs outside of Chris Johnson that have had success? Off the top of my head...within the past 20 years..... Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Thurman Thomas, Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Ladainian Tomlinson, Maurice Jones-Drew... ect... oh yeah... and THOMAS JONES! Basically the best backs in the last 20 years. Some of those guys may be 10 lbs heavier than Charles... some aren't. However Charles is taller than every single one of them. You guys act like Jamaal Charles weighs 140 lbs or something. The man is 6' 200 lbs, incredibily fast, strong, flexible, and athletic. Jamaal Charles Can't run north/south? lmao.... have you actually ever watched him play? Once again... you are way off. You act like he is bouncing around like Barry Sanders back there. Did you see his 56 yard TD run in week one? Right with the scheme of the play until he got into the open field. Watch his highlights from last year... most of his huge runs came straight up the gut.

every single guy on your list has both Charles and CJ by 10lbs minimum besides Thurman and Barry. Both Charles and CJ play under 200. Either way you completely miss the point. Why pound Charles into the ground when you do not have to? Also, teams are going to continue to opt for RBBC in an effort to limit touches on their players and make them last longer in both the season and their career. I have seen him play and he does what other good backs do ... find their holes and go. The thing is he is always going to have a tendency to break to the outside mostly because he isn't an overly physical back. Either way, Jones isn't going anywhere and it wouldn't shock me in the least bit if they brought in another back. Clearly Charles wasn't able to get through last years 8 game run without a fairly significant injury, why wouldn't the team worry about it happening again? Also, CJ/Barry are two of the few backs I have ever seen who never seem to take big hits. I dont know if Charles is lumped in that group yet and clearly KC has their doubts.

 

[basher]

Then relegate Jones to a Chester Taylor in MN role. It's not as if most people are saying that Charles should have the ball every single play, but a 50-50 share with a guy like Jones is insane. Throw in the 1 carry that his very talented hybrid guy McCluster had, and it's hard to understand why Haley sees a need to feed the rock to Jones so many times. Your argument that they won the game, so Haley's moves are brilliant holds about as much water as a colander. I'm sure the D finally stepping up had nothing to do with that win. Playmakers like Charles and McCluster must have broken loose only because they were fresh. I'll be looking forward to what the arguments will be when the losses start to pile up.

Why would it make any sense for him to have a chester taylor role? Taylor was a third down back in MN because he could block/catch the football. You would definitely rather have Charles in the game on 3rd down for his big play ability.

 

[Jake22]

You guys don't have all the information that Haley does so I don't understand how you can sit back here and armchair coach this team like oyu do. I mean, Haley is keenly aware that Charles will suffer an ACL tear on his 173rd carry of the season.... did you know that? No. You didn't. That's why HALEY is the coach and you people aren't.

POY (post of the year)

ITYM POTY...

 

[The Jacket]

More Charles owner whining.

It's called greediness. As a Charles owner, I'm more than happy with his W1 production. And I know it'll only get better all year.Charles haters, like you, should be the ones whining. Especially when the mediocre players you drafted ahead of him do nothing, and Charles keeps making you look silly.

 

[The Jacket]

Your argument that they won the game, so Haley's moves are brilliant holds about as much water as a colander.

That isn't my argument. I'm a Charles owner, Chiefs fan, CFB fan and was on Charles' bandwagon before 99% of the posters here. I'm all for him getting more carries, and going forward he will. However, the staff didn't want to risk a turnover -- Charles is indisputably a higher risk to do that than Jones -- and they succeeded in that goal. It helped them win the game. Even still, Charles got 50% of the work. One can argue that after a token first series, or even 2, Charles got 60+% of the work.We'll see in about 6 hours. The chances are that Charles will get 15-20 touches. And that's all he needs to put in a good day's work; all he needs to produce the amount of yards it takes most backs 20+ carries to accumulate. He's never going to get the ball 25 times a game, and if a Charles owner drafted him thinking he would, they're an idiot. He got a heavy workload at the end of last year but that was not an indicator of what's to come. KC has a solid backup now, a leader that everyone on the team looks up to, and they also won't be down by 2 TDs in most games like last year. You never know, Charles might get a TON of work in week 5 and/or 6 when they play Houston and Indy on the road. Those are the only two games in the next couple months that KC figures to get behind in early and often. He might see lots of catches out of the backfield when they need to pass to catch up. He's bound to get a higher % of the touches in games where they're chasing. But when they return to face the likes of Buffalo at home the next week, they'll be running a lot more, and consequently the % of touches is going to be more even since Jones will be spelling Charles a lot more often.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

At this point, words just dont even do justice to the decision by Haley to not feature this kid, who pretty much tore the league apart last year.

Pretty sure the Cheifs won. I'd say Haley got at least 1 game right. Ill say it for Haley " F U and your fantasy team"

Got one right? Haley almost lost the game for KC by doing this nonsense. The only thing that Haley did "right" was finally taking Thomas Jones out of the game (after 2 straight 3 and outs with TJ) and putting in Jamaal Charles, who on his first carry got a first down... and on his second carry torched the defense for a 56 yard TD. If it wasn't for that and McCluster's return for a TD.... the Chiefs would have lost. So... once again... the only thing that Haley did right was taking Jones out of the game and giving Jamaal Charles the ball. Had he done that more, then they would have won by a wider margin.

 

[karmarooster]

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[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Your argument that they won the game, so Haley's moves are brilliant holds about as much water as a colander.

That isn't my argument. I'm a Charles owner, Chiefs fan, CFB fan and was on Charles' bandwagon before 99% of the posters here. I'm all for him getting more carries, and going forward he will. However, the staff didn't want to risk a turnover -- Charles is indisputably a higher risk to do that than Jones -- and they succeeded in that goal. It helped them win the game. Even still, Charles got 50% of the work. One can argue that after a token first series, or even 2, Charles got 60+% of the work.We'll see in about 6 hours. The chances are that Charles will get 15-20 touches. And that's all he needs to put in a good day's work; all he needs to produce the amount of yards it takes most backs 20+ carries to accumulate. He's never going to get the ball 25 times a game, and if a Charles owner drafted him thinking he would, they're an idiot. He got a heavy workload at the end of last year but that was not an indicator of what's to come. KC has a solid backup now, a leader that everyone on the team looks up to, and they also won't be down by 2 TDs in most games like last year. You never know, Charles might get a TON of work in week 5 and/or 6 when they play Houston and Indy on the road. Those are the only two games in the next couple months that KC figures to get behind in early and often. He might see lots of catches out of the backfield when they need to pass to catch up. He's bound to get a higher % of the touches in games where they're chasing. But when they return to face the likes of Buffalo at home the next week, they'll be running a lot more, and consequently the % of touches is going to be more even since Jones will be spelling Charles a lot more often.

Why do you act like Jamaal Charles is a fumbler? Charles only fumbled twice on offense last year with 230 touches rushing/receiving! That is NOT a high risk fumbler. Jones fumbled twice last year too. More touches... but the point is that it's basically a wash. Charles has never been a "fumbler". Charles did have 2 fumbles last year on return duties... which are ALWAYS higher risk fumbling situations that have NOTHING to do with how he protects the ball on offense.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

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Thanks for your amazing insight. I will keep that brilliant post in mind the next time that I write a novel. I knew it was wrong when I typed it... I don't care. I am not trying to win this people over with my sparkling composition and grammar. It's a message board.EDIT..PSThanks for your great contribution to this thread.

 

[karmarooster]

1. does = singular verb2. comments = plural noun3. widdow = wrong

Thanks for your amazing insight. I will keep that brilliant post in mind the next time that I write a novel. I knew it was wrong when I typed it in... I don't care. I am not trying to win this people over with my sparkling composition and grammar. It's a message board.

Maybe you should. If you can't even get the title of the thread correct (or your name for that matter), why should anyone listen to your "insight?"

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

1. does = singular verb2. comments = plural noun3. widdow = wrong

Thanks for your amazing insight. I will keep that brilliant post in mind the next time that I write a novel. I knew it was wrong when I typed it in... I don't care. I am not trying to win this people over with my sparkling composition and grammar. It's a message board.

Maybe you should. If you can't even get the title of the thread correct (or your name for that matter), why should anyone listen to your "insight?"

First of all... the name goes back and has a different meaning. I don't feel the need to explain it to you. 1. This is a message board. Get a life... or go teach English if that is how you get your rocks off. 2. I know that Widow is spelled with one D. 3. I actually have Boxing/MMA articles all over the internet. I use grammar properly when I have a reason to do so. Posting on a message board isn't one of those times. 4. It's pretty obvious to me that most people are listening to my "insight"... and most agree with me. So... once again you lose. 5. It's hilarious that you are trying to correct my grammar... then you turned around and finished off your sentence in an incorrect manner. "insight?" should have been "insight"? - once again, you lose. Thanks for playing. EDIT- BTW... everyone knows that when a poster has nothing to argue with... no facts... no knowledge on the subject, ect... they resort to childish attacks like "you didn't spell this correctly", or "that's a double negative".... you are making yourself look foolish. Out of respect for the mods and this message board, I will ignore the rest of your pathetic posts.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

remember when everyone couldn't understand why Marion Barber wasn't an every down all game back?remember what happened when he became that every down all game back? Did he even last one year?

Yes, because Charles and MBIII are so similar.How about this one. Remember when everyone was saying Chris Johnson couldnt handle a full workload? That turned out ok last year.

Remember when the Chargers decided not to resign LT2 and then started Mathews against KC and Mathews couldn't hold onto the ball? yeah that was good times

 

[TheFanatic]

"insight?" should have been "insight"? - once again, you lose. Thanks for playing.

 

[karmarooster]

1. does = singular verb2. comments = plural noun3. widdow = wrong

Thanks for your amazing insight. I will keep that brilliant post in mind the next time that I write a novel. I knew it was wrong when I typed it in... I don't care. I am not trying to win this people over with my sparkling composition and grammar. It's a message board.

Maybe you should. If you can't even get the title of the thread correct (or your name for that matter), why should anyone listen to your "insight?"

First of all... the name goes back and has a different meaning. I don't feel the need to explain it to you. 1. This is a message board. Get a life... or go teach English if that is how you get your rocks off. 2. I know that Widow is spelled with one D. 3. I actually have Boxing/MMA articles all over the internet. I use grammar properly when I have a reason to do so. Posting on a message board isn't one of those times. 4. It's pretty obvious to me that most people are listening to my "insight"... and most agree with me. So... once again you lose. 5. It's hilarious that you are trying to correct my grammar... then you turned around and finished off your sentence in an incorrect manner. "insight?" should have been "insight"? - once again, you lose. Thanks for playing. EDIT- BTW... everyone knows that when a poster has nothing to argue with... no facts... no knowledge on the subject, ect... they resort to childish attacks like "you didn't spell this correctly", or "that's a double negative".... you are making yourself look foolish. Out of respect for the mods and this message board, I will ignore the rest of your pathetic posts.

You mean to say you've been publish on the internet? Wow, that really counts for something. You must be well versed in grammar if you've been published on the internet. While correcting a typo may be foolish, correcting grammar is not.I wouldn't say there is overwhelming support for your "insight" in this thread, either.Furthermore, I did major in English at a top university and did teach it. If you want to be taken seriously, generally you shouldn't F up the title of your thread. It makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about before anyone even begins to read what you have to say. Finally, "'insight'?" No.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

1. does = singular verb2. comments = plural noun3. widdow = wrong

Thanks for your amazing insight. I will keep that brilliant post in mind the next time that I write a novel. I knew it was wrong when I typed it in... I don't care. I am not trying to win this people over with my sparkling composition and grammar. It's a message board.

Maybe you should. If you can't even get the title of the thread correct (or your name for that matter), why should anyone listen to your "insight?"

First of all... the name goes back and has a different meaning. I don't feel the need to explain it to you. 1. This is a message board. Get a life... or go teach English if that is how you get your rocks off. 2. I know that Widow is spelled with one D. 3. I actually have Boxing/MMA articles all over the internet. I use grammar properly when I have a reason to do so. Posting on a message board isn't one of those times. 4. It's pretty obvious to me that most people are listening to my "insight"... and most agree with me. So... once again you lose. 5. It's hilarious that you are trying to correct my grammar... then you turned around and finished off your sentence in an incorrect manner. "insight?" should have been "insight"? - once again, you lose. Thanks for playing. EDIT- BTW... everyone knows that when a poster has nothing to argue with... no facts... no knowledge on the subject, ect... they resort to childish attacks like "you didn't spell this correctly", or "that's a double negative".... you are making yourself look foolish. Out of respect for the mods and this message board, I will ignore the rest of your pathetic posts.

You mean to say you've been publish on the internet? Wow, that really counts for something. You must be well versed in grammar if you've been published on the internet. While correcting a typo may be foolish, correcting grammar is not.I wouldn't say there is overwhelming support for your "insight" in this thread, either.Furthermore, I did major in English at a top university and did teach it. If you want to be taken seriously, generally you shouldn't F up the title of your thread. It makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about before anyone even begins to read what you have to say. Finally, "'insight'?" No.

Wow... you really lack a social life.Finally... YES you are completely 100% wrong if you think that "insight?" was the proper ending to that sentence. You majored in English... and TAUGHT ENGLISH... and you disagree with that? Wow. I wouldn't even have bothered pointing it out if you weren't such a #####. The irony was just too hilarious to pass up.