How does your league handle outrageous trades? (1 Viewer)

[Disposable Hero]

We used to have a committee of 4 people and we could veto a trade. Not sure what our procedure is now...if we have anything in place. The reason I ask as this trade just went down, Foster/Witten for Graham. The owner getting Foster also has Rice. The person who just traded Foster/Witten took over a team from another long standing owner. He was previously in our league and was notorious for making bad trades. If this was your league would you want this trade vetoed? The thing that pisses me off the most is that same owner said Foster was untouchable last week!!!

 

[Agent575]

My leagues let other owners handle their teams without crying over every little thing we don't agree with.

I recommend the same or find a new group of adults to play with.

 

[shadyridr]

an early first rd pick for a late first rd pick! thats OUTRAGEOUS!

 

[StrikeS2k]

We used to have a committee of 4 people and we could veto a trade. Not sure what our procedure is now...if we have anything in place. The reason I ask as this trade just went down, Foster/Whitten for Graham. The owner getting Foster also has Rice. The person who just traded Foster/Whitten took over a team from another long standing owner. He was previously in our league and was notorious for making bad trades. If this was your league would you want this trade vetoed? The thing that pisses me off the most is that same owner said Foster was untouchable last week!!!

So you tried to steal Foster last week and he balked, and now that he's found a trade he likes you're jealous?

 

[Pipes]

an early first rd pick for a late first rd pick! thats OUTRAGEOUS!

It's hard to completely judge the trade without seeing the complete rosters but this trade isn't horrible.

 

[Disposable Hero]

an early first rd pick for a late first rd pick! thats OUTRAGEOUS!

Poor analogy. And he did get 2 players not 1.

 

[Disposable Hero]

[so you tried to steal Foster last week and he balked, and now that he's found a trade he likes you're jealous?

Not the case at all. When this owner was previously in this league he always did this with that same owner. He would say he's not trading a player and then turn around and trade him to that owner.

 

[Agent575]

I don't know who Whitten is but Jason Witten isn't worth all that much to me and if I am alright at RB I wouldn't care what it took to get Jimmy Graham. And if its my team, I could give a **** less what another owner in my league thought of it.

 

[StrikeS2k]

[so you tried to steal Foster last week and he balked, and now that he's found a trade he likes you're jealous?

Not the case at all. When this owner was previously in this league he always did this with that same owner. He would say he's not trading a player and then turn around and trade him to that owner.

And? I've got guys in my league that are more receptive to trades than others. And other guys who always try to rip people off. I certainly deal with those owners differently so it's not surprising that these two might have a good relationship. The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Not sure which side you think got the better deal, but from your OP it would seem the issue is...

...the owner getting Foster already has Rice?

Did I miss something?

Seems like what you outrageous, most folks would call jealousy.

An owner improving his team by making a trade is not outrageous.

:IBTL: nothing to see here.

 

[Bonka]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

 

[johnadams]

One league, the guy selling the farm gets berated for being an idiot on the chat/message boards. In another, the teams who don't like the trade complain like a bunch of old ladies with runs in their pantyhose.

However, the trades all go through. No commish review, no veto power, no stoppage. I don't play in leagues that don't allow owners to manage their teams the way they see fit.

 

[Reepicheep]

So you let someone you don't trust play in your league. There isn't really a rule fix for that.

 

[Disposable Hero]

I don't know who Whitten is but Jason Witten isn't worth all that much to me and if I am alright at RB I wouldn't care what it took to get Jimmy Graham. And if its my team, I could give a **** less what another owner in my league thought of it.

Spelling corrected, my bad. Yeah he's stacked at RB: Pierre Thomas Chris Johnson Kendall Hunter Alfred MorrisRyan GrantSorry for the rant, been a really bad day. I lost my uncle to cancer this morning and I guess I'm a bit on edge.

 

[BobbyLayne]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

 

[FallenHero32]

I don't know who Whitten is but Jason Witten isn't worth all that much to me and if I am alright at RB I wouldn't care what it took to get Jimmy Graham. And if its my team, I could give a **** less what another owner in my league thought of it.

Spelling corrected, my bad. Yeah he's stacked at RB: Pierre Thomas Chris Johnson Kendall Hunter Alfred MorrisRyan GrantSorry for the rant, been a really bad day. I lost my uncle to cancer this morning and I guess I'm a bit on edge.

I hope you are being sarcastic, because that is not stacked at all.

 

[Disposable Hero]

I don't know who Whitten is but Jason Witten isn't worth all that much to me and if I am alright at RB I wouldn't care what it took to get Jimmy Graham. And if its my team, I could give a **** less what another owner in my league thought of it.

Spelling corrected, my bad. Yeah he's stacked at RB: Pierre Thomas Chris Johnson Kendall Hunter Alfred MorrisRyan GrantSorry for the rant, been a really bad day. I lost my uncle to cancer this morning and I guess I'm a bit on edge.

I hope you are being sarcastic, because that is not stacked at all.

Yes I was being sarcastic.

 

[Disposable Hero]

So you let someone you don't trust play in your league. There isn't really a rule fix for that.

I didn't let him in.

 

[Disposable Hero]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

 

[Agent575]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

likely neither.You can't police stupidity.I recommend joining a new league next year. I don't stay in leagues with people I feel are incapable of being good competition.

 

[shadyridr]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

 

[BroadwayG]

We kick whoever complains about trades out of the league.

 

[Disposable Hero]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

likely neither.You can't police stupidity.I recommend joining a new league next year. I don't stay in leagues with people I feel are incapable of being good competition.

You're probably right. And no you can't police stupidity. I wish I could get in another league but these guys are local. I don't care much for online leagues and prefer to draft in person.

 

[StrikeS2k]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

 

[Disposable Hero]

We kick whoever complains about trades out of the league.

That's the best you could come up with???

 

[unckeyherb]

I'm not sure what the point is, unless you employ league veto ability, which is the dumbest thing you could ever do. These guys have a history of trading together, so they have an idea of what they can get in negotiations. Mkay. The guy getting Foster...improved his team. Kay. What is your problem with this?

In our 2year limit - 2 man keeper, the Foster owner traded his 1, 2, 3 and 4 round picks for the first overall (so he could take Rodgers). Seemingly dumb on his part IMO, but he was obviously convinced it was a shark move. Time will tell, he's 2-1 (as is the cupcake that got 3 extra picks). Point is you can't say a trade is unfair before the results play out-hence veto should be limited to proof of collusion only. In otherwords never .

 

[Disposable Hero]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

 

[Bonka]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

 

[StrikeS2k]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

Doesn't matter whether it makes sense to me. He was getting nothing from his TE. Now he's got one of the premier TE's in the league. Yeah it hurts him at RB but he's got guys that might score some points for him. And he may be an idiot for sure. But the question is whether the trade should be vetoed. Are you suggesting that he shouldn't be allowed to trade a RB for a comparable TE because he's weak at RB?

 

[shadyridr]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

funny thing about trades is you dont get points from the past as part of the deal.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

Sproles has not gotten a single carry this season. In non-PPR his value is very volatile right now.

 

[unckeyherb]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

How many rbs do you have to start? Does he have another stud te and can he flex them in? Is he set at a lot of other positions? Is it possible that this is the first in a series of trades? Maybe he is negotiating with the McCoy owner to trade a stud wr for McCoy. Regardless, you don't know the reasons behind his moves, so to flat out claim ' unfair' is uninformed and smacks of whining or jealousy.

 

[da_budman]

In my main league a Guy traded David Wilson right before the season started who was getting all the hype at the time for Martellus Bennett who was a waiver wire pickup. I head from more than 1 person (incluing myself) who thought it was just an awful trade for the Wilson owner. Here we sit and Bennett is a top 5 te and Wilson is headed to the waiver wire. Moral of the story: dont intervene unless there is collusion suspected.

 

[Bonka]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

Sproles has not gotten a single carry this season. In non-PPR his value is very volatile right now.

Really? He had 7 last week, and this is a return yards league with 1/25 on KR and 1/10 on PR. He was #3 last year and is #7 right now, 3 points behind MJD.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

In our league, the commish has veto power, but only if it is an act of collusion or a "give up" trade where a team out of the running trades its best players for another team's scraps just because the owner is throwing in the towel. In any other circumstance, trades are approved.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

Sproles has not gotten a single carry this season. In non-PPR his value is very volatile right now.

Really? He had 7 last week, and this is a return yards league with 1/25 on KR and 1/10 on PR. He was #3 last year and is #7 right now, 3 points behind MJD.

Then up until last week he didn't. And mentioning that it's a return-yardage league is kind of important.

 

[Chazzhawk]

We kick whoever complains about trades out of the league.

Best policy of all, if you complain about a trade it better be because you know there is collusion, and you better be able to prove it.

 

[Shutout]

Is this a dynasty or keeper? If so then it's hard to see a lopsided trade. If its not then, still, you just never know. What's the scoring in the league? Per,in, towards te ppr? Lots to consider before saying.

 

[Chazzhawk]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

Sproles has not gotten a single carry this season. In non-PPR his value is very volatile right now.

He had 7 rushes for 62 yards last week, what box scores are you reading?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

This is nothing compared to this joke of a trade: AP and Sproles for MJD in a non ppr return yards league. Guy giving Sproles/AP also has Murray and Mathews (keeper), guy giving MJD only had him and Bradshaw. I understand he can't start all those RBs since we can only start 2, but get something back for them at least.

trying to figure out which side is better

The #5 RB for the 7th and 11th currently in a 14 team league. Sproles was 3rd RB overall last year. I find it ridiculous that one guy gets 2 stud RBs while only giving up 1 of basically equal value with no 2nd player or pick swaps. That's all.

Sproles has not gotten a single carry this season. In non-PPR his value is very volatile right now.

He had 7 rushes for 62 yards last week, what box scores are you reading?

Read further.

 

[Disposable Hero]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

How many rbs do you have to start? Does he have another stud te and can he flex them in? Is he set at a lot of other positions? Is it possible that this is the first in a series of trades? Maybe he is negotiating with the McCoy owner to trade a stud wr for McCoy. Regardless, you don't know the reasons behind his moves, so to flat out claim ' unfair' is uninformed and smacks of whining or jealousy.

Not whining or jealously at all. Since you don't know our league...I'll let you speculate all you want.

 

[DoubleG]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

Then you have your answer. It's already been said - you can't pass league rules that outlaw stupidity. If the guy is that bad, then YOU try to trade with him first next time. I realize you said you had asked about Foster, but offer something better then.If you don't like it, simply bail after this year. I am sure there are few other local FF leagues.

 

[matuski]

Outrage is the only proper response to an outrageous trade.

 

[Chazzhawk]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

How many rbs do you have to start? Does he have another stud te and can he flex them in? Is he set at a lot of other positions? Is it possible that this is the first in a series of trades? Maybe he is negotiating with the McCoy owner to trade a stud wr for McCoy. Regardless, you don't know the reasons behind his moves, so to flat out claim ' unfair' is uninformed and smacks of whining or jealousy.

Not whining or jealously at all. Since you don't know our league...I'll let you speculate all you want.

If we passed a law that outlawed stupidity it would be in the end of the human race!

 

[DoubleG]

Outrage is the only proper response to an outrageous trade.

Oh, we usually just point and laugh.

 

[cstu]

We used to have a committee of 4 people and we could veto a trade. Not sure what our procedure is now...if we have anything in place. The reason I ask as this trade just went down, Foster/Witten for Graham. The owner getting Foster also has Rice. The person who just traded Foster/Witten took over a team from another long standing owner. He was previously in our league and was notorious for making bad trades. If this was your league would you want this trade vetoed? The thing that pisses me off the most is that same owner said Foster was untouchable last week!!!

He also doesn't have Graham and his new TE looks like he's nearly done.

 

[unckeyherb]

The question is how fair the trade is and/or whether there's collusion. Which of those two issues are you suggesting is in play here?

Could be either?

I'm asking you what YOU think. You're the one making the suggestion that this trade shouldn't go through. Make your case. All you've said is it's outrageous and posted the trade. Post your reasoning for it being outrageous.

Did you see my post with the RB's he has? Ask yourself if the trade makes sense to you? Maybe like suggested it is just stupidity. I don't think it's collusion. It probably wouldn't be so bad if I haven't seen this kind of deal with these 2 before.

How many rbs do you have to start? Does he have another stud te and can he flex them in? Is he set at a lot of other positions? Is it possible that this is the first in a series of trades? Maybe he is negotiating with the McCoy owner to trade a stud wr for McCoy. Regardless, you don't know the reasons behind his moves, so to flat out claim ' unfair' is uninformed and smacks of whining or jealousy.

Not whining or jealously at all. Since you don't know our league...I'll let you speculate all you want.

You post a crap whiny thread, to which most people respond negatively; I ask a pretty legit question about how your league is set up that might shed light on the reasoning behind this 'terrible' trade and that's your response? Good stuff dum dum

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Outrage is the only proper response to an outrageous trade.

Oh, we usually just point and laugh.

This. As has been said a million times, only proven collusive trades should EVER be vetoed. Just make fun of the guy. I've also had success with defending the idiot in public, and quietly sending at least two lopsided offers a week to him.

 

[footballnerd]

If you really want Graham, that's prob the only way you're gonna get him.

 

[socrates]

We have a veto process if there is suspected collusion, if it damages the integrity and competitive nature of the league or if it is a fire sale. However, I think caution is necessary when reviewing or challenging trades. Each owner has his own set of player valuations and statistical projections, and management philosophies vary greatly.

While Foster's perceived value generally exceeds that of Jimmy Graham, they are both elite at their respective positions and demand a premium to acquire, if they can be acquired at all. I have no issue with the trade.

My philosophy is to mentally catalogue owners' trading tendencies and apply that for my own future maneuvers. Some owners demonstrate through their trades a preference for the newest emerging high-risk, high reward fantasy sensations, while others take a more measured approach and tend to lean toward established players, sometimes to the point of stubbornness.

Study your opponents and learn both their strengths and their weaknesses and utilize that for your future benefit.