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How far does portis have to fall before you'll pick him? (1 Viewer)
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Unlucky
Phenom
Exactly. I can't believe how many people think Duckett is a goalline beast, ready to take away all of these carries and TDs. Duckett carried on the goalline in ATL because Dunn couldn't handle the big load. In 2005, Duckett scored TDs in 8 games, 6 of which he had 10+ carries. That says to me that Duckett was used a lot more than just goalline.In 2004, Duckett scored 4 of his 8 TDs in one game, and had 10+ carries in all games he scored a TD except one. Dunn's career high for carries is 280.Portis, on the other hand, has scored 11+ TDs in 3 of 4 years. 273 is his career LOW for carries. Portis is MUCH BETTER THAN DUNN, and it's silly to think that Duckett now eats into Portis' workload if Portis is healthy enough to handle it.The injury is one concern, but Duckett doesn't scare me at all.
packersfan
Footballguy
You said you don't gamble with your first- and second-round picks, correct? So tell me how Jones isn't a gamble? One could argue his durability issues are even worse than Portis' because, unlike Portis, Jones has yet to prove he can play a full NFL season. I can appreciate the reluctance to take Portis given his current situation but to say you won't gamble in the first two rounds and then take a guy in the second who, in my opinion, is a pretty huge gamble doesn't seem to jibe.
Routilla
Footballguy
I just think his shoulder is going to be a problem this season. That's where he gets hit first on most every play. Add in Duckett for goalline carries and I don't see the value in CP in the 1st round. 2nd round maybe but a high end WR sounds better. Let someone else take the risk and grab Duckett in the middle rounds and watch the Portis owner break out in hives. LOL.
cosjobs
Footballguy
We evidenlty see things differently.I see a healthy starter in a Mike Martz offensive scheme with no positional competition.
You prefer a player who has yet to recover from a fairly severe (4 wk min) injury and whose team has since acquired an additional 1b rb.
FWIW, this site has KJ listed 17th and CP 46th, respectively in my league's (ppr) format.
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TheLaw
Footballguy
I am thinking the same thing. I have 1.05 tonight and am torn between Portis and Ronnie Brown. The skins O looked horrid yesterday w/o Portis in there. I just dont see them keeping him off the field just for ####s and giggles. If he is healthy his role doesnt change IMO.Thoughts?
I'm drafting 1.9 tonight and will be very happy if Portis is one of my options.
It is a tough choice though. Portis is by far the best back of what I imagine will be options, but Rudi Johnson's consistency and Ronnie Brown and Steven Jackson's youth, upside, and offensive schemes are also enticing. I got Portis ranked at 1.09 right now (with LJ, Shaun, LT2, Tiki, Edge, SJax, Ronnie Brown, and Rudi ranked ahead of him). I'll be fine with anyone of those nine guys.
It is a tough choice though. Portis is by far the best back of what I imagine will be options, but Rudi Johnson's consistency and Ronnie Brown and Steven Jackson's youth, upside, and offensive schemes are also enticing. I got Portis ranked at 1.09 right now (with LJ, Shaun, LT2, Tiki, Edge, SJax, Ronnie Brown, and Rudi ranked ahead of him). I'll be fine with anyone of those nine guys.
I've mentioned this in a few threads already but..
Those of you drafting late in the draft should be taking Portis. You do NOT want him slipping to the LT/LJ/SA/Tiki owners. If Portis turns out to be okay, the year is over if he slides those owners.
The Duckett trade shouldn't scare anyone. Look what Sellars and company did last year. Got around 10 TDs I believe.
Those of you drafting late in the draft should be taking Portis. You do NOT want him slipping to the LT/LJ/SA/Tiki owners. If Portis turns out to be okay, the year is over if he slides those owners.
The Duckett trade shouldn't scare anyone. Look what Sellars and company did last year. Got around 10 TDs I believe.
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Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Sellers and Cooley had around 15TD's combined
nerangers
Footballguy
I just traded for Clinton Portis, and was surprised the owner was the one that suggested it. I been on vacation all week, and figured I better see what was really going on with him to get such an offer. This thread helped in my decision making to pull the trigger (and why I love the Shark Pool). I think current owners are leary of the injury. Those that don't own him figure they can get him cheaper.
Here is to hoping for a speedy recovery!
Here is to hoping for a speedy recovery!
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Wingnut
Footballguy
Trade details please!I just traded for Clinton Portis, and was surprised the owner was the one that suggested it. I been on vacation all week, and figured I better see what was really going on with him to get such an offer. This thread helped in my decision making to pull the trigger (and why I love the Shark Pool). I think current owners are leary of the injury. Those that don't own him figure they can get him cheaper.Here is to hoping for a speedy recovery!
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Portis went 1.09 in my 10-team PPR league today. I passed him up for Ronnie Brown at 1.08 but would've taken him if Brown would have went before my turn to pick.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I remember back in 2003 when Vick was injured in the preseason. It was known he'd be out at least 6-8 weeks, but was STILL being drafted as a top 50 player.dreadlocks said:
nerangers
Footballguy
It is a small five player keeper league (eight teams - family/friends), so I didn't post it originally. I had TO on my team, and was looking to move him. Pretty much the trade was TO for Portis. The other team owner wanted TO since going to Dallas, and I really wanted to upgrade at RB. He threw in another player he can't keep, and that I am now going to try an trade in a package deal to another owner.Trade details please!I just traded for Clinton Portis, and was surprised the owner was the one that suggested it. I been on vacation all week, and figured I better see what was really going on with him to get such an offer. This thread helped in my decision making to pull the trigger (and why I love the Shark Pool). I think current owners are leary of the injury. Those that don't own him figure they can get him cheaper.Here is to hoping for a speedy recovery!
Northern Voice
Footballguy
This site is doing its subscribers a disservice. No way is Portis 46. He could miss the first 5 games and finish higher than that. He could score 1 TD all season long and finish higher than that. I don't get that ranking at all, when I heard it the night of the Duckett signing I assumed it was a joke. Makes me glad I didn't subscribe this year, makes me happy that a lot of my competitors in various FBG based leagues do drink the kool-aid.cosjobs said:
pantherclub
Footballguy
Just curious, but how in the world could that be fun?It is a small five player keeper league (eight teams - family/friends), so I didn't post it originally. I had TO on my team, and was looking to move him. Pretty much the trade was TO for Portis. The other team owner wanted TO since going to Dallas, and I really wanted to upgrade at RB. He threw in another player he can't keep, and that I am now going to try an trade in a package deal to another owner.Trade details please!I just traded for Clinton Portis, and was surprised the owner was the one that suggested it. I been on vacation all week, and figured I better see what was really going on with him to get such an offer. This thread helped in my decision making to pull the trigger (and why I love the Shark Pool). I think current owners are leary of the injury. Those that don't own him figure they can get him cheaper.Here is to hoping for a speedy recovery!
salmonstud
Footballguy
Portis went at 1.10 today in my non reception redraft league.
cosjobs
Footballguy
... unless they're right.
ThePassion
Footballguy
picked him at #10 in ten team league tonight... PPR league (1pt for 2 catches)
If Edge/Ronnie/Rudi fell I was going with one of them instead, but that didn't happen so I was looking at Portis then IMO a drop off to Lamont/Caddie/Bwest
Figured he was worth the risk here and if you woulda told me I could get Cport at 1.10 a month ago I woulda been happy... hopefully the injury doesnt nag him all year long. Grabbed TJ later on as well.
If Edge/Ronnie/Rudi fell I was going with one of them instead, but that didn't happen so I was looking at Portis then IMO a drop off to Lamont/Caddie/Bwest
Figured he was worth the risk here and if you woulda told me I could get Cport at 1.10 a month ago I woulda been happy... hopefully the injury doesnt nag him all year long. Grabbed TJ later on as well.
TheLaw
Footballguy
Well, I am ####### crazy. 12-teamer and I went balls to the wall with this squad (1QB, 2RB , 3WR, 1 RB/WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D/st):
1.05 Portis, RB
2.08 Holt, WR
3.05 Wayne, WR (debated between him and Dunn here)
4.08 Foster, RB
5.05 Gore, RB
6.08 Mike Bell, RB
7.05 Watson, TE
8.08 McCardell, WR
9.05 Antonio Bryant
10.08 Vick, QB
11.05 Williamson, WR
12.08 Brooks, QB
13.05 Wilkins, K
14.08 Longwell, K
15.05 Morency, RB
16.08 Gabriel, WR
17.05 JAX, D/st
18.08 Greg Jennings, WR
19.05 AZ, D/st
20.08 Desmond Clark, TE
1.05 Portis, RB
2.08 Holt, WR
3.05 Wayne, WR (debated between him and Dunn here)
4.08 Foster, RB
5.05 Gore, RB
6.08 Mike Bell, RB
7.05 Watson, TE
8.08 McCardell, WR
9.05 Antonio Bryant
10.08 Vick, QB
11.05 Williamson, WR
12.08 Brooks, QB
13.05 Wilkins, K
14.08 Longwell, K
15.05 Morency, RB
16.08 Gabriel, WR
17.05 JAX, D/st
18.08 Greg Jennings, WR
19.05 AZ, D/st
20.08 Desmond Clark, TE
kingmalaki
Footballguy
My draft just ended and Portis fell to me at 5.02. My team is:
Marc Bulger (6.11)
Aaron Brooks (9.02)
Shaun Alexander (1.02)
Clinton Portis (5.02)
T.J.Duckett (11.02)
Maurice Morris (13.02)
Larry Fitzgerald (2.11)
Reggie Wayne (3.02)
Donald Driver (4.11)
Marc Clayton (10.11)
L.J.Smith (7.02)
Ben Watson (8.11)
Nate Kaeding (14.11)
Miami (12.11)
I'm in a flex league where we only have to start 1 RB each week. With a WR core of Fitz, Wayne and Driver (even though the last two have the same bye week) and a workhorse like SA (as long as he doesn't get hurt), I figured Portis was too good to pass up right there.
FYI, this is not league full of chumps. I know at least 2 opponents are members here. Everyone else was scared of the injury though....
Marc Bulger (6.11)
Aaron Brooks (9.02)
Shaun Alexander (1.02)
Clinton Portis (5.02)
T.J.Duckett (11.02)
Maurice Morris (13.02)
Larry Fitzgerald (2.11)
Reggie Wayne (3.02)
Donald Driver (4.11)
Marc Clayton (10.11)
L.J.Smith (7.02)
Ben Watson (8.11)
Nate Kaeding (14.11)
Miami (12.11)
I'm in a flex league where we only have to start 1 RB each week. With a WR core of Fitz, Wayne and Driver (even though the last two have the same bye week) and a workhorse like SA (as long as he doesn't get hurt), I figured Portis was too good to pass up right there.
FYI, this is not league full of chumps. I know at least 2 opponents are members here. Everyone else was scared of the injury though....
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Musesboy
Footballguy
A big part of winning FF leagues is being strong at the right time.
I would imagine that Portis starts with a lighter workload, and he may even be spelled on short yardage carries. But as the season wears on, Portis will prove that he is at full strength and Gibbs will want to use him as much as possible.
If I lose a few points in the first few games but end up with a possible top three back in ppg over the second half of the season, I'll take it. Larry Johnson owners weren't complaining last year.
I just picked Portis up with Carnell Williams at the turn in my 12 team redraft.
I would imagine that Portis starts with a lighter workload, and he may even be spelled on short yardage carries. But as the season wears on, Portis will prove that he is at full strength and Gibbs will want to use him as much as possible.
If I lose a few points in the first few games but end up with a possible top three back in ppg over the second half of the season, I'll take it. Larry Johnson owners weren't complaining last year.
I just picked Portis up with Carnell Williams at the turn in my 12 team redraft.
