How has this Board changed the last few years? (1 Viewer)

[bagger.]

I'll admit though there seems to be alot of bashing.  But I think that's just the way internet boards are.

Which could be nearly eliminated by censoring/removing certain posters.To me, the problem is when certain posters do it over and over again, other people think it's okay, then they do it.

He, he. Maybe FBG needs to install the "your name on the chalkboard" system like we had back in elementary school. After three checks after your name you get "time out"

We have that already. It's called the Tool Chalkboard. In it's most basic form - I don't like to work on the boards. When a poster creates work for me by making me edit or delete their post. They go on the board. If they go on the board more than a few times, I assume they're slow learners and it's just easiest for me to get rid of them. I'm sure there's a Natural Selection joke in there some where for the FFA Guys. Sorry but that's how it works.

J

Joe,Can you get off the board over an extended period of time due to good behavior?

If you have a person who's been a problem over the years and they haven't done anything in awhile.......a PM by you, a mod. saying hey, you've really been a postive influence lately on the boards would go a long way.

I know this time of the season your busting at the seams with things to do, this option could also be exercises in the offseason as well.

I've been told "warning levels" never go down.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The majority of the posters who stimulated the best discussion on the boards are now staff and they write articles instead of starting threads.

The quality of offseason discussion is the same if not better and the lack of quality of posts in season is about the same.

The board has changed as it has become exponentially more popular over the years as a necessity, and the tools provided by the site is light years ahead of where they were a few years ago (even if I don't use them).

I personally liked the site better when it was smaller, more intimate, albeit more crude.

But I'm a sicko like that, and that is definitely not the optimum business model.

I'm proud of you Bagger! The first step to recovery is admission!

 

[valhallan]

Over the last year, I've noticed that the "3-digiters/sharks/vets" have mostly turned into crotchety old men that enjoy spending all day complaining about "noobs."

I have a rough list of posters whose threads I generally avoid because I know their words are usually strewn with bashing and vitriol. Perhaps you old goats could also learn how to ignore threads, rather than whining all the time?

Pretty all-encompassing generalization, isn't it?

Believe it or not, I did choose my words carefully.

Ok, assuming "mostly" means two-thirds, you're saying there are on the order of 600 persons "that enjoy spending all day complaining about "noobs."?

Honestly, you're among the very few non-staff 3-digiters that doesn't seem to be motivated by opportunities to bash people. Perhaps it's the FFA mentality leaking over to the Shark Pool.Anyway, I believe this thread was intended to gauge perception and that's what 'm trying to add to the discussion.

 

[bagger.]

The majority of the posters who stimulated the best discussion on the boards are now staff and they write articles instead of starting threads.

The quality of offseason discussion is the same if not better and the lack of quality of posts in season is about the same.

The board has changed as it has become exponentially more popular over the years as a necessity, and the tools provided by the site is light years ahead of where they were a few years ago (even if I don't use them).

I personally liked the site better when it was smaller, more intimate, albeit more crude.

But I'm a sicko like that, and that is definitely not the optimum business model.

I'm proud of you Bagger! The first step to recovery is admission!

 

[Spike]

Over the last year, I've noticed that the "3-digiters/sharks/vets" have mostly turned into crotchety old men that enjoy spending all day complaining about "noobs." 

I have a rough list of posters whose threads I generally avoid because I know their words are usually strewn with bashing and vitriol.  Perhaps you old goats could also learn how to ignore threads, rather than whining all the time?

Pretty all-encompassing generalization, isn't it?

Believe it or not, I did choose my words carefully.

Ok, assuming "mostly" means two-thirds, you're saying there are on the order of 600 persons "that enjoy spending all day complaining about "noobs."?

Honestly, you're among the very few non-staff 3-digiters that doesn't seem to be motivated by opportunities to bash people. Perhaps it's the FFA mentality leaking over to the Shark Pool.Anyway, I believe this thread was intended to gauge perception and that's what 'm trying to add to the discussion.

Fair enough!Here's a "negative" I'd like to add to the discussion:

In posts responding to those asking advice (WDIS, WDID, etc), at the end of many of them you'll see something on the order of "Please respond to mine" with a link to their thread.

I'm not exactly sure why, but those put me off BIG TIME.

It sort of screams "Pay attention to me!". Another way it seems (again, to me) is when you'd see the cartoon with the big bulldog walking around and the little one bouncing around him saying "Hey Spike!", "Hey Spike!" (the name is entirely coincidental).

Here's a "positive" I'd like to add to the discussion:

I'm LOVIN' the subscriber feature of the Sunday Injury page. It's SO useful!!!!!

 

[stealthrunner]

Lots of good ideas here. As for the abusive or rude posters, just ignore them. Maybe this thread will help tone people down and get back to what the Shark Pool is about. Another forum I was on somewhere else, someone posted a topic about too much sexual overtone and flirting when the purpose of the forum was running, and it got everyone to back off and realize the forum got sidetracked.There is still some flirting but it helped.There will always be some useless threads, duplicates, or people that others don't care for, but we all came here for the same reason.

 

[zamboni]

Here's a "negative" I'd like to add to the discussion:

In posts responding to those asking advice (WDIS, WDID, etc), at the end of many of them you'll see something on the order of "Please respond to mine" with a link to their thread.

I'm not exactly sure why, but those put me off BIG TIME.

I don't think that's a big deal. People sometimes answer others' WDIS questions, but those asking the question sometimes do not not reciprocate by doing the same to others' questions.Asking someone to return a favor doesn't seem to be a big deal IMO.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Fair enough!

Here's a "negative" I'd like to add to the discussion:

In posts responding to those asking advice (WDIS, WDID, etc), at the end of many of them you'll see something on the order of "Please respond to mine" with a link to their thread.

I'm not exactly sure why, but those put me off BIG TIME.

It sort of screams "Pay attention to me!". Another way it smine.eems (again, to me) is when you'd see the cartoon with the big bulldog walking around and the little one bouncing around him saying "Hey Spike!", "Hey Spike!" (the name is entirely coincidental).

Here's a "positive" I'd like to add to the discussion:

I'm LOVIN' the subscriber feature of the Sunday Injury page. It's SO useful!!!!!

Oh, if you want to get into the ACF, that's a whole new ball of wax.It's gotten to the point where if you post a thread on your own, you won't get any thoughtful advice whatsoever.

It becomes: "Do I start Peyton against Houston or Orton vs. Pittsburgh?"

The other posters just look at the subject, pick one quickly (in order to post *their* link in 6,000 places)...and the response becomes:

"Orton. See mine."

It's upsetting, because there are people that are just starting out in FF, and genuinely need help, or veterans looking for a little confirmation. Only, it's turned into a link-a-thon.

 

[smcindoe]

Can I add something completely unrelated to my other posts?Is it possible for people to stop quoting entire threads in their posts? I know it's the default, but it's not really that hard to go in and edit out everything that you're not directly replying to. Or even turn off quoting altogether. It just gets tough to scroll through pages and pages of quotes without missing the one-line reply.OK, turning off cranky-old-man mode now...

 

[zamboni]

"Orton. See mine."

It's upsetting, because there are people that are just starting out in FF, and genuinely need help, or veterans looking for a little confirmation. Only, it's turned into a link-a-thon.

Good point, and I should have clarified in my earlier post. Merely putting a one word answer without insight is pretty poor form. If someone has some insight, and then posts a link to theirs, it's much more palatable.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

To be honost, I think posters are doing a great job of being friendlier to one another this year compared to last. There was much more back and forth bickering in threads which got nasty.I think the Mods could either verify or tell me I'm wrong as to the number of threads that get locked down due to posters bashing one another last year compared to this year. I'm not talking about multiple threads on the same topic or wrong forum posts, I'm talking about bashing.This site is awesome! The posters who post are above average in their fantasy football knowledge. During the offseason, there is more discussion on drafting theories for various formats which is great. You might get a little nugget in the news about a player and we're like vultures trying to disect the information.Ultimately, you have to respect other people's opinion. Sometimes it's tough to do, but I think you earn more respect for youself when you make the attempt if that type of thing's important to you.For example, Dallas won a big game vs. Philly the other night. I knew/know that loss hurts Philly fans, as Dallas has lost some heartbreakers this year. The last thing in the world I'm going to do is come on here and say how good Dallas is, and that Philly is done and they deserve etc....... To me, that's not being excellent. That's not the type of material/behavior that makes this board this best. I'd much rather talk about why the game was great, who played well and who didn't play so well.Sure, part of me wants to post the :dancing pickle: or the :highfive: when Dallas won the way they did. But you know, if you stick around here long enough, you'll find that things go in full circles and what comes around, goes around.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Good point, and I should have clarified in my earlier post. Merely putting a one word answer without insight is pretty poor form. If someone has some insight, and then posts a link to theirs, it's much more palatable.

My biggest problem with *that* whole system is that the new FF players will probably take the advice of the "one-word answer, then link" posters. That helps nobody.I guess part of me honestly wishes the ACF was moderated. If that behavior was discouraged as much as posting WDIS in the Shark Pool, then the ACF would become a much better place.

But, I will put the disclaimer that I've been here for only a year (6 months posting, 6 months lurking), so I might be short-sighted on this.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Sure, part of me wants to post the :dancing pickle: or the :highfive: when Dallas won the way they did. But you know, if you stick around here long enough, you'll find that things go in full circles and what comes around, goes around.

You handled yourself with class after that...I meant to say something to you. There were a ton of baits thrown your way, and you refused them all. It was pretty impressive, and something I (and many others) might not have been able to do.

 

[stealthrunner]

Is it possible for people to stop quoting entire threads in their posts?

Not a knock on anyone, but some people don't know how to head all the header tages to figure that out. But you are correct, not a pet peeve, just makes a threader harder to read through real quick.

 

[Leo2228]

I have been on the board for about 4 to 5 year . I do more reading than posting i come hear for INFO.Seems to be alot of bashing and smart a.. the last year or so.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Can I add something completely unrelated to my other posts?

Is it possible for people to stop quoting entire threads in their posts? Or even turn off quoting altogether. It just gets tough to scroll through pages and pages of quotes without missing the one-line reply.

I think you're right about quoting to much.......but I'd be lost without quoting what you need to quote. A lot of times when reading a thread I haven't looked into, I find it beneficial to just read a quote with the reply to find out what the person's referring too. Otherwise, you 'd just read the reply and not know who they were referring too.Agreed though, if you can edit some of it, do it!

 

[Kleck]

I've been holding back, not wanting to respond until I got a chance to read some thoughts.Are we perfect? Of course not. We're doing the best we can with what we have to work with.Do people "get away" with stuff that we've deemed unacceptable. Sure. Happens all the time. The percentage of posts that are read by a mod is tiny. We can't read it all. Just not possible. Its really helpful if people use the report button. If we appear inconsistent, this is the best answer I have. Again, we'll keep doing the best we can with what we have to work with.We feel we've outlined what's acceptable as clear as we can. We'll never keep everyone happy. For some, our board is too restrictive. For others its too tight. For some more its just right. Not a shocker. We're up front about this being a business. We'll continue to do what we think is best for our business.Make a choice and live with it. If you like it, stay. If not, find another board. If everyone leaves and our business goes under, we'll have to live with our decisions.

 

[Keys Myaths]

We'll continue to do what we think is best for our business.

And I think we all understand that's what's going to happen, as the way it should be. You guys are providing the service, you decide how it's best going to be profitable. But hey, you haven't closed the thread yet, so we're going to keep talking.

 

[Spike]

Good point, and I should have clarified in my earlier post. Merely putting a one word answer without insight is pretty poor form. If someone has some insight, and then posts a link to theirs, it's much more palatable.

My biggest problem with *that* whole system is that the new FF players will probably take the advice of the "one-word answer, then link" posters. That helps nobody.I guess part of me honestly wishes the ACF was moderated. If that behavior was discouraged as much as posting WDIS in the Shark Pool, then the ACF would become a much better place.

But, I will put the disclaimer that I've been here for only a year (6 months posting, 6 months lurking), so I might be short-sighted on this.

Maybe you've been here just a short time, but you're already on my list of "Threads I Pay Attention To Because <poster name> Started The Thread".Please keep up the good work!

 

[satch]

The improper use of emoticons detract from the board in that oftentimes they are used as a substitute for intelligent or insightful input. "I disagree with that post, but since I can't explain why, I'll just use the lol, or the smash-head-against-wall emoticon to prove my point." This adds nothing to the discussion and only annoys the people who used actual words to demonstrate their point. Those types of emoticon posts dumb-down a good discussion quickly.Imagine trying to discuss something intelligently face to face, and when you make a good point, the other guy pauses, then starts making faces , laughing at you or stomping his feet.Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Sure, part of me wants to post the :dancing pickle: or the :highfive: when Dallas won the way they did.  But you know, if you stick around here long enough, you'll find that things go in full circles and what comes around, goes around.

You handled yourself with class after that...I meant to say something to you. There were a ton of baits thrown your way, and you refused them all. It was pretty impressive, and something I (and many others) might not have been able to do.

Thanks,Now, ask the group of hometown guys here in Detroit in our fantasy league how I'm going to act towards them when Dallas beats the Lions this week (all Lions season ticket holders too).......they'll be asking if you're talking about the same guy

 

[bagger.]

The improper use of emoticons detract from the board in that oftentimes they are used as a substitute for intelligent or insightful input. "I disagree with that post, but since I can't explain why, I'll just use the lol, or the smash-head-against-wall emoticon to prove my point." This adds nothing to the discussion and only annoys the people who used actual words to demonstrate their point. Those types of emoticon posts dumb-down a good discussion quickly.

Imagine trying to discuss something intelligently face to face, and when you make a good point, the other guy pauses, then starts making faces , laughing at you or stomping his feet.

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

 

[Turf Toe killed Me]

I do miss the "good old days" of making fun of da raider fans disdain for the snow, Stller fans and their constant whining about the Pats, The Indy Homers who renege on sig bets year after year, and of course, we Pats fans are such whiney tools! ahhhhhhhhhhh....... such fond memories!My only dig is people get way to serious for a message board. Just remember Bluto was right.I'd love to see an average age demographic slice of the message board over the years. dam kids

 

[valhallan]

The improper use of emoticons detract from the board in that oftentimes they are used as a substitute for intelligent or insightful input. "I disagree with that post, but since I can't explain why, I'll just use the lol, or the smash-head-against-wall emoticon to prove my point." This adds nothing to the discussion and only annoys the people who used actual words to demonstrate their point. Those types of emoticon posts dumb-down a good discussion quickly.

Imagine trying to discuss something intelligently face to face, and when you make a good point, the other guy pauses, then starts making faces , laughing at you or stomping his feet.

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Never thought about that. Great points.

 

[posty]

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

 

[bob_probert_2000]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

[/QUOTE]

 

[Otis]

The improper use of emoticons detract from the board in that oftentimes they are used as a substitute for intelligent or insightful input. "I disagree with that post, but since I can't explain why, I'll just use the lol, or the smash-head-against-wall emoticon to prove my point." This adds nothing to the discussion and only annoys the people who used actual words to demonstrate their point. Those types of emoticon posts dumb-down a good discussion quickly.

Imagine trying to discuss something intelligently face to face, and when you make a good point, the other guy pauses, then starts making faces , laughing at you or stomping his feet.

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

 

[Otis]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

[/QUOTE] I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

 

[Spike]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

[/QUOTE]I agree with Otis.If it makes the reader's experience better to remove emoticons and images, why imply it doesn't by the rolleyes/thumbsdown?

 

[GregR_2]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

(snip)

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

I agree with Otis.If it makes the reader's experience better to remove emoticons and images, why imply it doesn't by the rolleyes/thumbsdown?

[/QUOTE]Because making it so you don't see them is missing the whole point of what was originally said. He isn't saying that his SEEING the emoticons is a detriment to the board. It's that people use them to post without adding anything constructive in the way of intelligent discourse. Just making them disappear from his screen isn't going to improve that.

I'm not sure getting rid of them is the right answer, but he's got a valid point. I think I'd be in favor of getting rid of the ones, like point to the shirt, that seem to never be used to help make a point, and instead just clutter up the thread with meaningless emoticons.

 

[GregR_2]

On a topic other than emoticons...I like the effort that goes into keeping the Shark Pool devoted to fantasy and NFL talk. But there are still a few things that are annoying to see constantly pushing real threads off the front page. A prime example are the threads whining about announcers. Do we really need to have multiple new threads every single week on Madden, threads on the Sunday night crew, etc? I don't think we need to be draconian necessarily... allowing some leeway as long as things are NFL related can add to the positive experience of the boards.But when these threads get created week after week ad nauseum, hasn't it been enough already to move them to the FFA for good?

 

[bagger.]

On a topic other than emoticons...

I like the effort that goes into keeping the Shark Pool devoted to fantasy and NFL talk. But there are still a few things that are annoying to see constantly pushing real threads off the front page.

A prime example are the threads whining about announcers. Do we really need to have multiple new threads every single week on Madden, threads on the Sunday night crew, etc? I don't think we need to be draconian necessarily... allowing some leeway as long as things are NFL related can add to the positive experience of the boards.

But when these threads get created week after week ad nauseum, hasn't it been enough already to move them to the FFA for good?

I agree, but mainly because I love the Sunday night crew, who have the best football announcing shtick short of Keith Jackson.The "look at his feet" drinking game is the highlight of my Sunday nights.

Emoticons have been omitted to show the serious nature of my post.

 

[ookook]

I think that encouraging staff to post (through evaluations or remuneration) would be benificial. I agree that as some of the best voices have ascended something has been lost. Their insights are quality and advice legendary, but we just don't get enough of it. Some of my favorite threads are when staff have respectfully disagreed.I also think that we should encourage a norm of disabling emoticons when starting serious threads. Please.

 

[Mmen of Steel]

On a topic other than emoticons...

I like the effort that goes into keeping the Shark Pool devoted to fantasy and NFL talk.  But there are still a few things that are annoying to see constantly pushing real threads off the front page. 

A prime example are the threads whining about announcers.  Do we really need to have multiple new threads every single week on Madden, threads on the Sunday night crew, etc?    I don't think we need to be draconian necessarily... allowing some leeway as long as things are NFL related can add to the positive experience of the boards.

But when these threads get created week after week ad nauseum, hasn't it been enough already to move them to the FFA for good?

I agree, but mainly because I love the Sunday night crew, who have the best football announcing shtick short of Keith Jackson.The "look at his feet" drinking game is the highlight of my Sunday nights.

Emoticons have been omitted to show the serious nature of my post.

I like Bagger's "Shag" avatar. I'll keep the functions on for now.Here's an analogy -- tell me if I am off here.

This board, like the public library, is free -- it is open to all of the people to obtain as much information as they like. It has its fair share of creeps and weirdos and people that may interfere with your quest for knowledge, but overall, the experience is worth it.

This board, should it go to a premium/pay feature, would be more like a country club. Granted, we would still have dudes with money acting like jerks ocassionally, citing that they 'paid for the right to speak their mind'; but for the most part, you have a group of people with similar interests enjoying the same hobby together.

Discuss. Here's a smilie. Have a nice day.

 

[bob_probert_2000]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

[/QUOTE] :( Go back to my original post. The lack of fun spiritedness and sarchasm is truly missed here.First, I know posty from way back. Second my post was a sarchastic JOKE about what the two guys posted above. Sorry for trying to be funny. I should really stick to being bland.

 

[Verbal Kint]

[QUOTE=']

Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

:( Go back to my original post. The lack of fun spiritedness and sarchasm is truly missed here.First, I know posty from way back. Second my post was a sarchastic JOKE about what the two guys posted above. Sorry for trying to be funny. I should really stick to being banned.

[/QUOTE]Fixed

 

[Gravity]

Can I add something completely unrelated to my other posts?

Is it possible for people to stop quoting entire threads in their posts? I know it's the default, but it's not really that hard to go in and edit out everything that you're not directly replying to. Or even turn off quoting altogether. It just gets tough to scroll through pages and pages of quotes without missing the one-line reply.

OK, turning off cranky-old-man mode now...

man is that a pet peeve of mine!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

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man is that a pet peeve of mine!

But if you don't quote the entire thing sometimes..........like I did here on purpose, someone who wants to know doesn't know what the pet peeve is you're talking about. Then they would have to scroll up and search for it and to me, that would be even worse.

 

[Gravity]

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man is that a pet peeve of mine!

But if you don't quote the entire thing sometimes..........like I did here on purpose, someone who wants to know doesn't know what the pet peeve is you're talking about. Then they would have to scroll up and search for it and to me, that would be even worse.

Understood. I'm talking about those replies that take up 3 pages just quoting the post above it and then all they add is a :XYZ: emoticon

Grrrr

 

[JuniorNB]

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man is that a pet peeve of mine!

But if you don't quote the entire thing sometimes..........like I did here on purpose, someone who wants to know doesn't know what the pet peeve is you're talking about. Then they would have to scroll up and search for it and to me, that would be even worse.

Understood. I'm talking about those replies that take up 3 pages just quoting the post above it and then all they add is a :XYZ: emoticon

Grrrr

Stop it!

 

[richn]

Can I add something completely unrelated to my other posts?

Is it possible for people to stop quoting entire threads in their posts? I know it's the default, but it's not really that hard to go in and edit out everything that you're not directly replying to. Or even turn off quoting altogether. It just gets tough to scroll through pages and pages of quotes without missing the one-line reply.

OK, turning off cranky-old-man mode now...

Good idea

 

[Couch Potato]

Here's an analogy -- tell me if I am off here.

This board, like the public library, is free -- it is open to all of the people to obtain as much information as they like. It has its fair share of creeps and weirdos and people that may interfere with your quest for knowledge, but overall, the experience is worth it.

This board, should it go to a premium/pay feature, would be more like a country club. Granted, we would still have dudes with money acting like jerks ocassionally, citing that they 'paid for the right to speak their mind'; but for the most part, you have a group of people with similar interests enjoying the same hobby together.

Not bad, but you're off a little bit, yes. The difference here is that those who come in don't just use the library, but add to it's contents. It benefits us all when new people with fresh ideas provide value, and I'd never want the board to lose that by becoming a 'pay' board.The trick is to let everyone into our 'public library' but to keep the creeps and weirdos from peeing in the corners.

 

[bagger.]

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think you people are overlooking my addition as one of the more positive things that has happened to this board over the last year or two.

 

[vacaver1]

Hands-down, the best forum for info, both speculative and factual. While the gristle can sometimes build-up, it never catches-up to the amount of meat you can take from here. You'll get some tools, sure, but when you find a board that doesn't have them, I'll be amazed. One thing that might cut-down on the amount of trash-talk we get is if some of the FBG staff tone it down a little. A few mods/staffers have provoked some trash this year and while I'm sure they want to participate as "regulars" as well, I think they would need to be above this (take some FWP discussions/provocations as an example). No need to point fingers, though, because these couple of guys know who they are. Just something to be conscious of.

 

[Keys Myaths]

One thing that might cut-down on the amount of trash-talk we get is if some of the FBG staff tone it down a little. A few mods/staffers have provoked some trash this year and while I'm sure they want to participate as "regulars" as well, I think they would need to be above this (take some FWP discussions/provocations as an example). No need to point fingers, though, because these couple of guys know who they are. Just something to be conscious of.

Nobody's perfect. Everyone's going to slip up every once in a while and do something like that. I know I've done it in rare instances when I get really frustrated.

I think if it happened every once in a great while (and maybe, even looked down upon when it happens even then), then this board would be an even more fantastic place to be.

But, you can't pick on one or two posts by certain individuals...you can find examples from nearly everyone that fit that bill.

Like I said before, I feel it's the very, very few people who *constantly* do it that make new people feel that it's the norm. And then, it becomes a vicious cycle.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Personally, I like it when someone posts a condescending or inflammatory reply to one of my posts. That's like a license to kill. I can come down on the hapless fool like Truman on Nagasaki... that's good stuff, and fun to read.

 

[bob_probert_2000]

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Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

:( Go back to my original post. The lack of fun spiritedness and sarchasm is truly missed here.First, I know posty from way back. Second my post was a sarchastic JOKE about what the two guys posted above. Sorry for trying to be funny. I should really stick to being bland.

[/QUOTE]I am actually suprised I am not after my rant earlier.

 

[vacaver1]

One thing that might cut-down on the amount of trash-talk we get is if some of the FBG staff tone it down a little. A few mods/staffers have provoked some trash this year and while I'm sure they want to participate as "regulars" as well, I think they would need to be above this (take some FWP discussions/provocations as an example). No need to point fingers, though, because these couple of guys know who they are. Just something to be conscious of.

Nobody's perfect. Everyone's going to slip up every once in a while and do something like that. I know I've done it in rare instances when I get really frustrated.

I think if it happened every once in a great while (and maybe, even looked down upon when it happens even then), then this board would be an even more fantastic place to be.

But, you can't pick on one or two posts by certain individuals...you can find examples from nearly everyone that fit that bill.

Like I said before, I feel it's the very, very few people who *constantly* do it that make new people feel that it's the norm. And then, it becomes a vicious cycle.

I agree, Keys, but I have found a few of these posts more often than in the past. Outside of one direct jab in a title line re: FWP, a couple staffers seem to lose their patience a little easier this year. Probably has to do with the same offenders making the same offending comments all of the time. I just mention it as a reminder because, like you said, no one's perfect, so we all need to self-police from time-to-time.

 

[Otis]

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Overall, the site would be better if emoticons were eliminated. It would encourage intelligent discussion and discourage childish behavior.

Go to "My Controls" and then click on Board Settings and answer NO to the following questions...Do you wish to view images in posts, such as smilies and posted images?

Do you wish to view members signatures when reading topics?
Do you wish to view members avatars when reading topics?Life will be much better...

I thought he answered the question well? Why the ?

:( Go back to my original post. The lack of fun spiritedness and sarchasm is truly missed here.First, I know posty from way back. Second my post was a sarchastic JOKE about what the two guys posted above. Sorry for trying to be funny. I should really stick to being bland.

[/QUOTE]Far be it from me to break up a good joke. Carry on, guy