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How many games will Suh be suspended? (1 Viewer)

Based on what I saw, and the precedent set with Haynesworth, Suh should get a 5 game suspension. People will argue a head stomp isn't as bad as a head stomp. I think the bigger concern is the NFL will want to come down heavy on intentionally stomping on a player. What part of the body targeted will be irrelevant.Some lucky charity is going to get a huge donation. I expect the fine to be in the 50-75k range.
Haynesworh walked back to the pile, kicked the dude's helmet off and scraped his cleats across the guy's face. Suh tried stomping a guy as he was disentangling from crowd. Absurd comparison. The guy a few weeks ago who positioned himself after a play to deliberately and blatantly kick a guy in the nuts got nothing. Far closer comparison than AH.
I think Goodell will be more concerned about intentionally stomping another player. Where the foot struck and the end result of the stomp won't matter much. Goodell will look to send a message that the act is unacceptable. He won't wait for a more serious injury to occur from the same act.
 
His "I'm a badass/thug" act is starting to get old already.
What today showed is that it really isn't an act, the dude genuinely can't control himself and hurt his team in a key game by getting tossed.The rest of the league is really going to have fun needling and provoking Suh into more incidents now.
 
Eh...

Suh was on the ground basically wrestling with the Green Bay player - both of them not wanting to move their arm and let the other guy up first. Suh bounces up, another GB player comes in and shoves him in the back and Suh gives a going away kick as he's falling away.

This just doesn't look that bad to me. He looks like he was irritated that he got shoved after having a scuffle on the ground and gave a cheap shot on the way out. If he had wanted to stomp the guy with intent to injure he'd have turned around and put his weight into it a few seconds later.

He gave a frustration "kick" to the guy on the ground, knowing it might hit him but also knowing he wasn't going to get too much pop behind it. Suh's got some anger issues on the field but it's not the big deal some of you are making it out to be. He should get a punishment. It shouldn't be too harsh. Heck, most of his "reputation" came from the oversensitive nature of the calls involving QBs, anyway.

It was a cheap shot. A minor one, though. Not nearly as bad as looking at someone's crotch, pivoting a smidge to have a better angle at the crotch and then letting loose a kick as hard as you can at the crotch. Not nearly as bad as taking off a guys helmet, standing over him while looking down and then raking your cleats across the guys face near the eye (30 stitches worth of cuts, I believe).
point of order- he got pushed because he was bouncing a guys head off the turf repeatedly. The extent to which the guy he was on top of was fighting back is fairly irrelevant. Suh was trying to hurt someone, thats why you smash someones head against the ground or stomp on them. Intent to injure is the key- the guy underneath him and the guy pushing him off werent trying to injure him. The fact that Suh failed to hurt someone despite his best efforts isnt really mitigating. Is the league supposed to wait until he succeeds before they act?
There's that word again! You guys are nuts.
im sorry- he lovingly bounced the back of his head repeatedly off the turf. Is that better?
No, I don't care for the hyperbole or overreaction on either side. It is closer though than smash. I'd say he was pushing the guy's head down. Not a big deal, happens all the time.
Apparently the rest of the country instantly disagreed. Why is everyone mysteriously seeing Suh do things hes not doing or that happen all the time? Conspiracy?
Weird, PFT used the word push. Guess they're not part of the country. I guess all the people in here laughing at the smashers and bashers aren't part of the country either.
 
Based on what I saw, and the precedent set with Haynesworth, Suh should get a 5 game suspension. People will argue a head stomp isn't as bad as a head stomp. I think the bigger concern is the NFL will want to come down heavy on intentionally stomping on a player. What part of the body targeted will be irrelevant.Some lucky charity is going to get a huge donation. I expect the fine to be in the 50-75k range.
Haynesworh walked back to the pile, kicked the dude's helmet off and scraped his cleats across the guy's face. Suh tried stomping a guy as he was disentangling from crowd. Absurd comparison. The guy a few weeks ago who positioned himself after a play to deliberately and blatantly kick a guy in the nuts got nothing. Far closer comparison than AH.
I think Goodell will be more concerned about intentionally stomping another player. Where the foot struck and the end result of the stomp won't matter much. Goodell will look to send a message that the act is unacceptable. He won't wait for a more serious injury to occur from the same act.
Seems like Goodell sent the message that the act IS acceptable since the nut kicker went un-suspended. As did several people this season who threw punches.Eta. What AH did was way beyond a stomp.
 
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Based on what I saw, and the precedent set with Haynesworth, Suh should get a 5 game suspension. People will argue a head stomp isn't as bad as a head stomp. I think the bigger concern is the NFL will want to come down heavy on intentionally stomping on a player. What part of the body targeted will be irrelevant.

Some lucky charity is going to get a huge donation. I expect the fine to be in the 50-75k range.
Haynesworh walked back to the pile, kicked the dude's helmet off and scraped his cleats across the guy's face. Suh tried stomping a guy as he was disentangling from crowd. Absurd comparison. The guy a few weeks ago who positioned himself after a play to deliberately and blatantly kick a guy in the nuts got nothing. Far closer comparison than AH.
I think Goodell will be more concerned about intentionally stomping another player. Where the foot struck and the end result of the stomp won't matter much. Goodell will look to send a message that the act is unacceptable. He won't wait for a more serious injury to occur from the same act.
Here is the Haynesworth kick:

 
First off .. I think Donkeykong is a punk and a dirty player ... however, I was expecting a hell of a lot worse than what I saw after just seeing this on Yahoo. Doosh/punk move? YEP. Worthy of the 'outrage'? Methinks NOT. :popcorn:

 
Why do they keep showing Suh pushing Cutler down as a dirty play?? That WASN'T a dirty play and the ref got it wrong.

 


In 2006, the league suspended Albert Haynesworth when he was with Tennessee for five games — the longest-ever punishment in the NFL for on-field behavior — for stepping on the head of Dallas center Andre Gurode."



It should be noted that Haynesworth's defensive coordinator at the time was now Lions coach Jim Schwartz. (from the Detroit Free Press)







Dirty Player or Dirty Coach? The Forest Gregg of our time?

 
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'smackdaddies said:


In 2006, the league suspended Albert Haynesworth when he was with Tennessee for five games the longest-ever punishment in the NFL for on-field behavior for stepping on the head of Dallas center Andre Gurode."



It should be noted that Haynesworth's defensive coordinator at the time was now Lions coach Jim Schwartz. (from the Detroit Free Press)







Dirty Player or Dirty Coach? The Forest Gregg of our time?
4 games would be reasonable considering there were 2 acts not having anything to do with the game of football addressed at an opponent and with prior acts a consideration, however 2 will probably be what he gets.
 
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'smackdaddies said:


In 2006, the league suspended Albert Haynesworth when he was with Tennessee for five games — the longest-ever punishment in the NFL for on-field behavior — for stepping on the head of Dallas center Andre Gurode."



It should be noted that Haynesworth's defensive coordinator at the time was now Lions coach Jim Schwartz. (from the Detroit Free Press)







Dirty Player or Dirty Coach? The Forest Gregg of our time?
I think Haynesworh has proven himself to be a first class doosh on and off the field. Doesn't mean Schwartz isn't a dirty coach, but Albert isn't the evidence to use.
 
He will get at least one and possibly more. I'm surprised anyone seriously thinks it will be none. It's the intent that matters here and he clearly intended to stomp on the guy.

 
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'Tom Servo said:
'Mr. Know-It-All said:
Wow, looks like a Wusses Anonymous meeting broke out while I was getting my eat on. Bunch of nancies in here.
Careful; those High Horse Society members will fall off their rides calling you biased since he played for Nebraska.
Oddly though I should hate him - I am a Mizzou fan and he ruined our season a few years ago when he destroyed our qb. I just happen to live in Nebraska. Too bad he didn't rough up precious Saint Aaron...then there would be real outrage. OUTRAGE I tell you.
 
The impact on every snap of the ball is way worse than what Suh did....have we turned into a nation of pansies?

 
'Bankerguy said:
His post game comments convinced me that he is a doosh.
Suh does a weekly radio interview, he is the farthest thing from a doosh. In fact he comes off as one of the brightest NFL players I have ever heard.
 
'Tom Servo said:
'Mr. Know-It-All said:
Wow, looks like a Wusses Anonymous meeting broke out while I was getting my eat on. Bunch of nancies in here.
Careful; those High Horse Society members will fall off their rides calling you biased since he played for Nebraska.
Oddly though I should hate him - I am a Mizzou fan and he ruined our season a few years ago when he destroyed our qb. I just happen to live in Nebraska. Too bad he didn't rough up precious Saint Aaron...then there would be real outrage. OUTRAGE I tell you.
I for one am OUTRAGED that you aren't OUTRAGED!
 
The impact on every snap of the ball is way worse than what Suh did....have we turned into a nation of pansies?
The stuff between snap and whistle are supposed to happen, being a #### after the snap is not. Have we become a nation of crybabies and a-holes who can't handle things not going our way?
 
'Bankerguy said:
His post game comments convinced me that he is a doosh.
Suh does a weekly radio interview, he is the farthest thing from a doosh. In fact he comes off as one of the brightest NFL players I have ever heard.
I'm surprised Detroit fans aren't more upset. Detroit is never going to get past Green Bay if Suh, one of if not their best player, can't keep his head on his shoulders.
 
The impact on every snap of the ball is way worse than what Suh did....have we turned into a nation of pansies?
The stuff between snap and whistle are supposed to happen, being a #### after the snap is not. Have we become a nation of crybabies and a-holes who can't handle things not going our way?
So being a #### between snap and whistle is acceptable...but you are expected to be a gentleman after the whistle. It is okay to be an uncivilized animal between snap and whistle but not after? LOL... this thread is getting to be hilarious.
 
He will get at least one and possibly more. I'm surprised anyone seriously thinks it will be none. It's the intent that matters here and he clearly intended to stomp on the guy.
As did the nut kicker a few weeks ago. He got no suspension.
Did the nut kicker have a history? I wouldn't be surprised if Suh got suspended based upon his history with dirty hits.
I don't know about his history but a blatant kick like this is a blatant kick. I don't think is the same type of stuff Suh has been fined for before. It's in a different category for me. Regardless of a person's history, a kick like that either is suspendable or it's not.
 
"Smashing his head into the ground." -- :lmao: -- Wrestling and shoving his helmet protected head into turf is not like giving the guy a curbie.

"Stomping on the player." -- More like a "Get the F### OFF ME!" kick. Grounds for ejection? Yes. Grounds for a fine? Yes. Grounds for suspension? Probably, but I would say a game at most until his presser which was laughable and showed he didn't take it seriously, so a 2nd game to send home the seriousness is not out of the question, but for the guys in here acting like this is some unprecedented act of violence, and attempted murder on the field, get outside more. I've seen guys take harder shots in "non-contact" sports. Hell, following a nasty ankle sprain I kicked one of my own teammates harder than that in practice when he tried to give my foot a little extra twist after making a tackle. The Haynesworth/Gurode stomp is in a different league, as it was a deliberate attempt to severely injure an unprotected player with a cleated shoe to a very sensitive and fragile part of the body. Suh's shot today was a kick, and a weak one at that. About as harmful as the idjits that throw a closed fist at a guy wearing a helmet. Ejected, fined, and lucky their dumb ### didn't break their own hand.

 
He will get at least one and possibly more. I'm surprised anyone seriously thinks it will be none. It's the intent that matters here and he clearly intended to stomp on the guy.
As did the nut kicker a few weeks ago. He got no suspension.
Did the nut kicker have a history? I wouldn't be surprised if Suh got suspended based upon his history with dirty hits.
I don't know about his history but a blatant kick like this is a blatant kick. I don't think is the same type of stuff Suh has been fined for before. It's in a different category for me. Regardless of a person's history, a kick like that either is suspendable or it's not.
I agree with you, just wondering if the Green Bay player had a history. History should factor in when considering the length of the suspension IMO.
 
'netnalp said:
Based on what I saw, and the precedent set with Haynesworth, Suh should get a 5 game suspension. People will argue a head stomp isn't as bad as a head stomp. I think the bigger concern is the NFL will want to come down heavy on intentionally stomping on a player. What part of the body targeted will be irrelevant.

Some lucky charity is going to get a huge donation. I expect the fine to be in the 50-75k range.
Around here that's probably true.
 
'Bankerguy said:
His post game comments convinced me that he is a doosh.
Suh does a weekly radio interview, he is the farthest thing from a doosh. In fact he comes off as one of the brightest NFL players I have ever heard.
He lets his emotions override that brain then.And the attitude that people calling for his suspension are nancies is ridiculous.
 
He will get at least one and possibly more. I'm surprised anyone seriously thinks it will be none. It's the intent that matters here and he clearly intended to stomp on the guy.
As did the nut kicker a few weeks ago. He got no suspension.
Did the nut kicker have a history? I wouldn't be surprised if Suh got suspended based upon his history with dirty hits.
I don't know about his history but a blatant kick like this is a blatant kick. I don't think is the same type of stuff Suh has been fined for before. It's in a different category for me. Regardless of a person's history, a kick like that either is suspendable or it's not.
I agree with you, just wondering if the Green Bay player had a history. History should factor in when considering the length of the suspension IMO.
The Green Bay Player was Evan Dietrich-Smith.Backup player who does not get any time...I think it may have been his first action in a regular season game.
 
2 games down to 1 with an appeal before the press conference. 4-5 games down to 3-4 games with an appeal because of the press conference. This is a problem beyond what he did if he actually thinks he did nothing wrong. This isn't just a nasty player, he needs psychiatric care from a medical professional. It's sad, I hope he gets help before he ruins his career.

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
Press: "Did you intend to step on him?"Suh: "Not by any means":lol:Press: "What was the leg motion?"Suh: "What was the leg motion?" :lol: :lol:
"Are you sexually attracted to little boys?""Am I sexually attracted to little boys?"
 
'Bankerguy said:
His post game comments convinced me that he is a doosh.
Suh does a weekly radio interview, he is the farthest thing from a doosh. In fact he comes off as one of the brightest NFL players I have ever heard.
He lets his emotions override that brain then.And the attitude that people calling for his suspension are nancies is ridiculous.
Marcellus Wiley, Deion Sanders and Michael Irvin are all nancies I guess since they all said a suspension is merited.
 
I have confidence that whatever fine or suspension that Goodell hands out it will not be just. I still can't believe he fined Goldson $25 K for fighting and Early Doucet nothing. I am pretty sure Doucet threw the first punch.

 
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This incident is being blown up way out of proportion it ain't even funny. Suh was being pulled away from the guy. His foot may have contacted the arm, but there was zero force because the defender had control of Suh. The guy on the ground never even reacted in any way that he was hit. The reality is Suh's foot barely brushed the guy and calling it an assault or stomp is silly.

 
This incident is being blown up way out of proportion it ain't even funny. Suh was being pulled away from the guy. His foot may have contacted the arm, but there was zero force because the defender had control of Suh. The guy on the ground never even reacted in any way that he was hit. The reality is Suh's foot barely brushed the guy and calling it an assault or stomp is silly.
:lmao: Blind as ever. Glad to see it isn't limited to just politics.
 
This incident is being blown up way out of proportion it ain't even funny. Suh was being pulled away from the guy. His foot may have contacted the arm, but there was zero force because the defender had control of Suh. The guy on the ground never even reacted in any way that he was hit. The reality is Suh's foot barely brushed the guy and calling it an assault or stomp is silly.
:lol: Thanks for the laugh. You are joking, right?
 
If someone's arm gets stomped on, you hold it and look at it and look what damage is done. The player has zero reaction. ZERO. Never touches or examines his arm in any way shape or form, and yet we are supposed to believe a 300 lb guy just stomped on it. Well, bull####. It may look bad on tape, but with the other Packer having Suh in a full nelson and moving him away, Suh wasn't doing anything to hurt anyone.

 
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If someone's arm gets stomped on, you hold it and look at it and look what damage is done. The player has zero reaction. ZERO. Never touches or examines his arm in any way shape or form, and yet we are supposed to believe a 300 lb guy just stomped on it. Well, bull####. It may look bad on tape, but with the other Packer having Suh in a full nelson and moving him away, Suh wasn't doing anything to hurt anyone.
:lmao:
 
If he wasn't going to be suspended for 3 or 4 games before the press conference, I think he will be for his silly comments and the fact that he's not the least bit contrite and doesn't seem to think he's done anything wrong. Goodell is going to want to make an example of Suh. I think he'll be gone for 3 games but I also wouldn't be shocked if he was done for the year.

 
If he wasn't going to be suspended for 3 or 4 games before the press conference, I think he will be for his silly comments and the fact that he's not the least bit contrite and doesn't seem to think he's done anything wrong. Goodell is going to want to make an example of Suh. I think he'll be gone for 3 games but I also wouldn't be shocked if he was done for the year.
This. He said he didn't do anything intentionally. BS. He said God above knows he didn't do anything. BS. The guy is delusional if he claims it wasn't intentional. He should be suspended, he's an embarrassment to the league. Especially on Thanksgiving.
 
The impact on every snap of the ball is way worse than what Suh did....have we turned into a nation of pansies?
The stuff between snap and whistle are supposed to happen, being a #### after the snap is not. Have we become a nation of crybabies and a-holes who can't handle things not going our way?
So being a #### between snap and whistle is acceptable...but you are expected to be a gentleman after the whistle. It is okay to be an uncivilized animal between snap and whistle but not after?
Are we seriously questioning whether late hits should be frowned upon?
 
People are actually sticking up for this piece of #### thug?
Football's a violent game and people lose their cool. He didn't blow up a defenseless player subjecting him to a career ending blow. He stomped a guy and got ejected for it. :shrug: People who throw punches get ejected, but that's it. Same should hold true here. I do think they'll fine him more b/c of thanksgiving.exposure etc.
 
If someone's arm gets stomped on, you hold it and look at it and look what damage is done.
Not if it doesn't hurt that bad. Suh didn't get his weight into it because he had just been pushed away and was off balance. But that's no excuse for stomping (or kicking or whatever you want to call it) a player when he's on the ground. (Earlier in the thread, you said that somebody was grabbing Suh's leg and Suh was kicking just to break free. That's incorrect. Nobody was grabbing at Suh's leg.)What Suh did was nowhere near as bad as what Albert Haynesworth did; but it wasn't very sportsmanlike, and all of his excuses were bogus. Suh is an extremely talented player and I'd like to see him have a good career, so I'm rooting for him to learn from this — but it's apparently not going to happen without a suspension.

 

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