How much do these elder WR's have left? (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

Name - Born - Age at the beginning of the 2007 seasonMoulds 7/17/1973 34.1Muhammed 5/5/1973 34.3Kennison 1/20/1973 34.6Engram 1/7/1973 34.7Bruce 11/10/1972 34.8Harrison 8/25/1972 35.0Keyshawn Johnson 7/22/1972 35.1Horn 1/16/1972 35.6Galloway 11/20/1971 35.8Rod Smith 5/15/1970 37.3McCardell 1/6/1970 37.7(Owens (33.7) and Glenn (33.1) just missed the cutoff)

Historically, WR's 34 and older have only scored over 150 FP 18 times, and never by more than 2 in a season. Marvin Harrison just had the best season by a 34+ WR with 208 FP, but he is the exception rather than the rule. Only 8 times has a WR 35 or older reached that point, 3 of those by Rice (Jimmy Smith being the last at 35 in 2004).With this in mind, what's the take on these guys for 2007 and beyond? Rod Smith and McCardell seem like prime candidates to retire but the rest should be back next year.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....

I might throw Bruce in there as well....

 

[Raider Nation]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....I might throw Bruce in there as well....

No reason why Galloway can't do it also, especially with Simms back in the fold.Joey is the only guy on that list who still has almost all of his speed.

 

[pizzatyme]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....I might throw Bruce in there as well....

No reason why Galloway can't do it also, especially with Simms back in the fold.Joey is the only guy on that list who still has almost all of his speed.

Yes, because Harrison has clearly lost a step!

 

[Doug Drinen]

I've posted this before, but I believe Joey Galloway might have a claim as one of the most underrated players in football history. Despite missing a full season in his prime to a knee injury, he's racked up nearly 10,000 yards with these as the primary QBs of his teams.

Rick Mirer

Rick Mirer

Warren Moon (age 41)

Warren Moon (age 42)

Jon Kitna

Quincy Carter

Chad Hutchinson

Quincy Carter

Brian Griese

Chris Simms

Bruce Gradkowski

 

[Big Score]

I've posted this before, but I believe Joey Galloway might have a claim as one of the most underrated players in football history. Despite missing a full season in his prime to a knee injury, he's racked up nearly 10,000 yards with these as the primary QBs of his teams.Rick MirerRick MirerWarren Moon (age 41)Warren Moon (age 42)Jon KitnaQuincy CarterChad HutchinsonQuincy CarterBrian GrieseChris SimmsBruce Gradkowski

Besides losing a year to a knee injury, didn't Galloway just about wipe out another year, with a holdout in Seattle?

 

[Raider Nation]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....

I might throw Bruce in there as well....

No reason why Galloway can't do it also, especially with Simms back in the fold.Joey is the only guy on that list who still has almost all of his speed.

Yes, because Harrison has clearly lost a step!

He hasn't?

 

[Chase Stuart]

I've posted this before, but I believe Joey Galloway might have a claim as one of the most underrated players in football history. Despite missing a full season in his prime to a knee injury, he's racked up nearly 10,000 yards with these as the primary QBs of his teams.

Rick Mirer

Rick Mirer

Warren Moon (age 41)

Warren Moon (age 42)

Jon Kitna

Quincy Carter

Chad Hutchinson

Quincy Carter

Brian Griese

Chris Simms

Bruce Gradkowski

Besides losing a year to a knee injury, didn't Galloway just about wipe out another year, with a holdout in Seattle?

Yup.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/GallJo00.htm

In 1999 (the holdout) and 2000 (the injury), Galloway lost two years in his prime (ages 28 and 29) where he totaled just 26 receptions.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

I also think we will know more about what the Rams think Bruce can still do, by seeing what they do with Kevin Curtis.

 

[Bri]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....I might throw Bruce in there as well....

No reason why Galloway can't do it also, especially with Simms back in the fold.Joey is the only guy on that list who still has almost all of his speed.

I disagree on the speed part, he's still real fast but he's not "super fast" like he was. Agree about Joey though his career stats probably don't. I don't imagine Kennison getting a K.Curtis is a free agent and I think that might affect Bruce. If they re-sign him for big $, they might play him more.

 

[Bri]

McCardell and Engram...I just don't "see" it.

Moulds probably could but Andre would have to get hurt or suspended or somsesuch. I don't think he will with Andre around. He's still a very good WR though

 

[Despyzer]

McCardell's years of producing are over. Next year, he will be #3 or #4 on the Chargers' depth chart.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Moulds - already basically irrelevant

Muhammed -still good enough to be a WR 3/4

Kennison - looking his age

Engram - stepped up last week... still worth a flier in PPR, especially if Hackett or DJax leaves.

Bruce - can still get it done, WR3 next year

Harrison - no signs of aging I can see, almost Rice like

Keyshawn Johnson - game never predicated on speed, so that helps. Still a solid WR4 as long as he starts

Horn - lost a step, and a slow healer now

Galloway - showed no signs of age this year. Could have been a lot bigger this year if he had a QB with an arm

Rod Smith - hello Brandon Marshall (EEEEE)

McCardell - like Moulds, already irrelevant.

 

[Sabertooth]

I've posted this before, but I believe Joey Galloway might have a claim as one of the most underrated players in football history. Despite missing a full season in his prime to a knee injury, he's racked up nearly 10,000 yards with these as the primary QBs of his teams.Rick MirerRick MirerWarren Moon (age 41)Warren Moon (age 42)Jon KitnaQuincy CarterChad HutchinsonQuincy CarterBrian GrieseChris SimmsBruce Gradkowski

 

[pizzatyme]

The only guys I see having 1K yard seasons left in them are Harrison and maybe an outside chance of Kennison of the Chiefs QB is Huard....

I might throw Bruce in there as well....

No reason why Galloway can't do it also, especially with Simms back in the fold.Joey is the only guy on that list who still has almost all of his speed.

Yes, because Harrison has clearly lost a step!

He hasn't?

1996 Indianapolis Colts 16 15 64 836 13.1 41 8 15 1 43

1997 Indianapolis Colts 16 15 73 866 11.9 44 6 9 2 46

1998 Indianapolis Colts 12 12 59 776 13.2 61 7 9 2 40

1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 115 1663 14.5 57 12 24 7 79

2000 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 102 1413 13.9 78 14 16 4 70

2001 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 109 1524 14.0 68 15 19 6 75

2002 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 143 1722 12.0 69 11 22 4 92

2003 Indianapolis Colts 15 15 94 1272 13.5 79 10 17 4 60

2004 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 86 1113 12.9 59 15 16 3 63

2005 Indianapolis Colts 15 15 82 1146 14.0 80 12 14 3 59

2006 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 95 1366 14.4 68 12 18 4 78

Well, if having more catches and yards this season than the last 3, and having 12 TDs, his career average, then yes, I guess I would say he has lost a step.

No way in hell he has lost a step. Maybe next year, but certainly nothing points to it this season.

 

[cstu]

Name - Born - Age at the beginning of the 2007 season

Moulds 7/17/1973 34.1

Muhammed 5/5/1973 34.3 (62 FP)

Kennison 1/20/1973 34.6

Engram 1/7/1973 34.7 (119 FP)

Bruce 11/10/1972 34.8 (69 FP)

Harrison 8/25/1972 35.0

Keyshawn Johnson 7/22/1972 35.1

Horn 1/16/1972 35.6

Galloway 11/20/1971 35.8 (136 FP)

Rod Smith 5/15/1970 37.3

McCardell 1/6/1970 37.7

(Owens (33.7) and Glenn (33.1) just missed the cutoff)

Historically, WR's 34 and older have only scored over 150 FP 18 times, and never by more than 2 in a season. Marvin Harrison just had the best season by a 34+ WR with 208 FP, but he is the exception rather than the rule. Only 8 times has a WR 35 or older reached that point, 3 of those by Rice (Jimmy Smith being the last at 35 in 2004).

With this in mind, what's the take on these guys for 2007 and beyond? Rod Smith and McCardell seem like prime candidates to retire but the rest should be back next year.

I bolded the fantasy points scored so far this year. Only two of these guys are in the top 40 WR's - Galloway and Engram. Galloway is the only one likely to hit the 150 FP mark. Harrison was in the top 20 before he got injured though. This makes me a little wary of taking Owens next year and if I had him in a dynasty I'd be selling.

 

[az_prof]

Based on this data I would be trying to move TO or Galloway or Harrison this offseason in dynasty.

Name - Born - Age at the beginning of the 2007 season

Moulds 7/17/1973 34.1

Muhammed 5/5/1973 34.3 (62 FP)

Kennison 1/20/1973 34.6

Engram 1/7/1973 34.7 (119 FP)

Bruce 11/10/1972 34.8 (69 FP)

Harrison 8/25/1972 35.0

Keyshawn Johnson 7/22/1972 35.1

Horn 1/16/1972 35.6

Galloway 11/20/1971 35.8 (136 FP)

Rod Smith 5/15/1970 37.3

McCardell 1/6/1970 37.7

(Owens (33.7) and Glenn (33.1) just missed the cutoff)

Historically, WR's 34 and older have only scored over 150 FP 18 times, and never by more than 2 in a season. Marvin Harrison just had the best season by a 34+ WR with 208 FP, but he is the exception rather than the rule. Only 8 times has a WR 35 or older reached that point, 3 of those by Rice (Jimmy Smith being the last at 35 in 2004).

With this in mind, what's the take on these guys for 2007 and beyond? Rod Smith and McCardell seem like prime candidates to retire but the rest should be back next year.

I bolded the fantasy points scored so far this year. Only two of these guys are in the top 40 WR's - Galloway and Engram. Galloway is the only one likely to hit the 150 FP mark. Harrison was in the top 20 before he got injured though. This makes me a little wary of taking Owens next year and if I had him in a dynasty I'd be selling.

 

[cstu]

Based on this data I would be trying to move TO or Galloway or Harrison this offseason in dynasty.

I don't think you'll get much for them at this point and they'll probably be worth keeping. However, TO will still trade at a high value, similar to Harrison last year. I don't think it's a bad idea to trade for TO if you think he'd be the missing piece to winning a title, but just don't be surprised if it doesn't work out.

 

[hauser42]

T.O. and Harrison will have value next year. T.O. is in a great spot to put up big numbers. Harrison value will be a little lower as people will be leary of the trade.

I would trade Harrison away before I got rid of T.O.

 

[cstu]

T.O. and Harrison will have value next year. T.O. is in a great spot to put up big numbers. Harrison value will be a little lower as people will be leary of the trade.

I would trade Harrison away before I got rid of T.O.

That's my point - you can get a lot for TO, yet I think they will put up similar numbers next year. If I had TO I wouldn't mind trading him for Harrison and players/picks.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Engram has quietly had a really good season

 

[cstu]

Engram has quietly had a really good season

Yes he has - it's already the 30th best season by a 34+ year old WR.Galloway is at #27 and TO has the top season (215 FP), passing Harrison's mark set last year.