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Love it, thanks Joe.

And very timely. I'm in Austin on a biz trip. Went to return my rental car at the airport as the "biz" part of my trip is over so I had to get the car back. Stopped at a gas station right by the airport to fill the tank. Got to the rental car center, where I was going to try using my Hertz points to rent a car for the rest of the weekend as I'm staying in town to hang out with old friends from when we lived here.

*GASP* Looked in my wallet to pull a credit card out and discovered my business credit card wasn't in there. Scrambled, went back to the spot I dropped the car off and while the car was still there, my card wasn't in the car. Figured I must have left it stuck in the slot at the pump at the gas station.

Got an Uber back to my hotel and the driver stopped at the gas station for me on the way. Someone had returned the card to the cashier. Seems simple but a lesser person would have done something else with that card.

There are good people out there.
 
I thought this was good.

And I believe its true. I believe that as I've simply seen evidence of it over my lifetime among lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds.

I appreciate what you’re doing, I really do. I’m not gonna get snarky or get myself banned, but I’ll just respectfully disagree with your premise. I think people are just as often, if not more often, selfish jerks. I’m becoming a nihilist and a cynic which is feeling apropos for the times. Flame away with your positivity. I really don’t care and this is not schtick.
 
I thought this was good.

And I believe its true. I believe that as I've simply seen evidence of it over my lifetime among lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds.

I appreciate what you’re doing, I really do. I’m not gonna get snarky or get myself banned, but I’ll just respectfully disagree with your premise. I think people are just as often, if not more often, selfish jerks. I’m becoming a nihilist and a cynic which is feeling apropos for the times. Flame away with your positivity. I really don’t care and this is not schtick.
Seems like an unpleasant way to go through life.

Not saying your impression is wrong, but I’d rather err optimistic, and risk be disappointed from time to time, than perpetually cynical.
 
Love it, thanks Joe.

And very timely. I'm in Austin on a biz trip. Went to return my rental car at the airport as the "biz" part of my trip is over so I had to get the car back. Stopped at a gas station right by the airport to fill the tank. Got to the rental car center, where I was going to try using my Hertz points to rent a car for the rest of the weekend as I'm staying in town to hang out with old friends from when we lived here.

*GASP* Looked in my wallet to pull a credit card out and discovered my business credit card wasn't in there. Scrambled, went back to the spot I dropped the car off and while the car was still there, my card wasn't in the car. Figured I must have left it stuck in the slot at the pump at the gas station.

Got an Uber back to my hotel and the driver stopped at the gas station for me on the way. Someone had returned the card to the cashier. Seems simple but a lesser person would have done something else with that card.

There are good people out there.
A few years ago, I lost my credit card like 5 times in about an 18 month period, turns out my wallet was defective/worn out and card kept slipping out but didn't realize that was what was happening at the time. Anyway, I live in a bigger city and my company happens to be in popular mall and each time someone grabbed it and ran up anywhere from $500 to $2000 in charges before my bank flagged the charges and notified me. Bank covered the charges each time thankfully, a little surprised I never got a call from the bank wondering what was going on.
 
I thought this was good.

And I believe its true. I believe that as I've simply seen evidence of it over my lifetime among lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds.

I appreciate what you’re doing, I really do. I’m not gonna get snarky or get myself banned, but I’ll just respectfully disagree with your premise. I think people are just as often, if not more often, selfish jerks. I’m becoming a nihilist and a cynic which is feeling apropos for the times. Flame away with your positivity. I really don’t care and this is not schtick.
I'm still OK if it's 50/50
If you could trust people than you wouldn't need the police, I always mention that and it bends to your premise
At the same time I have had some nice things done for me by complete strangers
Life is what you make it.

-I heard someone on a podcast say "I haven't created any obstacles for myself" and I think it's easier to find people when you don't have obstacles that prevent them from also finding you
A simple obstacle could be your cynical attitude towards/about people which makes the good ones harder for you to find

I also understand how you feel and I'm not trying to change you.
Maybe a pivot would be a good move but I haven't walked in your shoes and I bet you have damn good reasons for the way you feel about others
 
I thought this was good.

And I believe its true. I believe that as I've simply seen evidence of it over my lifetime among lots of different people from lots of different backgrounds.

I appreciate what you’re doing, I really do. I’m not gonna get snarky or get myself banned, but I’ll just respectfully disagree with your premise. I think people are just as often, if not more often, selfish jerks. I’m becoming a nihilist and a cynic which is feeling apropos for the times. Flame away with your positivity. I really don’t care and this is not schtick.

Nothing at all wrong with disagreeing with me. That's what discussion boards are for.

I agree most people at the core, operate to maximize their self interests. But I don't think that excludes offering kindness to others.

And I believe the speaker's point is not that everyone is kind or empathetic. But that people are a lot more kind than we might be led to believe.

I also think there's an element of both looking for kindness and good out there. Coupled with presenting kindness and good that unlocks some of the reciprocal goodness out there.

I know that gets sort of "woo woo" but I truly believe you get back a lot of what you give.
 
The optimist in me says that’s true.
The realist says it’s true for many people.

Oh for sure. I don't mean to say it's true for everyone. Obviously, one can look at the news and see there is plenty of bad in the world.

I just think, like the speaker, the good may be more prevalent than it seems sometimes.
 
I’ll try to remember how good people are when people are getting deported left and right, women’s rights get worse and worse, gay marriage gets overturned, all with half of America cheering all of this on.

Sorry, but it’s going to be really hard for me to see the good for a while.
I want to steer clear of the land mines, but is it possible people who hold those values aren’t bad?

I mean, my father-in-law is a generous, deeply caring human being, despite the fact his political views are verrrrry different from mine.
 
I’ll try to remember how good people are when people are getting deported left and right, women’s rights get worse and worse, gay marriage gets overturned, all with half of America cheering all of this on.

Sorry, but it’s going to be really hard for me to see the good for a while.
I want to steer clear of the land mines, but is it possible people who hold those values aren’t bad?

I mean, my father-in-law is a generous, deeply caring human being, despite the fact his political views are verrrrry different from mine.

I don’t know. I don’t know your father-in-law, but in general, it’s hard for me to reconcile someone being described as “deeply caring” while at the same time holding beliefs like this. I’m not talking about political beliefs like economic policy or big/small government. I’m talking about human rights issues.

I mean how do you convince a trans person right now for example that there is a whole lot of good going around at the moment and it’s not really that bad?
 
I’ll try to remember how good people are when people are getting deported left and right, women’s rights get worse and worse, gay marriage gets overturned, all with half of America cheering all of this on.

Sorry, but it’s going to be really hard for me to see the good for a while.
I want to steer clear of the land mines, but is it possible people who hold those values aren’t bad?

I mean, my father-in-law is a generous, deeply caring human being, despite the fact his political views are verrrrry different from mine.

I don’t know. I don’t know your father-in-law, but in general, it’s hard for me to reconcile someone being described as “deeply caring” while at the same time holding beliefs like this. I’m not talking about political beliefs like economic policy or big/small government. I’m talking about human rights issues.

I mean how do you convince a trans person right now for example that there is a whole lot of good going around at the moment and it’s not really that bad?
I’m not gonna apologize, or attempt to explain any opposing views, but suffice it to say, I can separate the totality of the person from just about any political belief(s). Short of something extreme, of course.

But I guess we all have to draw a line somewhere, for what constitutes extreme. In my FILs case, it’s not surprising that a devoutly Catholic octogenarian isn’t on board with more contemporary, progressive policy.
 
I think the video was too simplistic - I don’t doubt that there are many many good people out there still (I know for a fact there are), but that doesn’t really change the opening premise about us being so divided as a nation politically and philosophically, and likely more so than any time previously.

Words like “evil” get thrown around daily when describing supporters of the other party one doesn’t support. I mean there’s a reason why the Political Forum had to be shut down.

Even within the House and Senate floors themselves, there’s no more decorum or respect between the two parties.

All of that doesn’t mean there aren’t many kind and good people out there. It’s not some revelation that you could find some good small town folks on your journeys.
 
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So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to. There will always be negativity and greed, but in my eyes most people have compassion and understanding. Good will triumph over evil.
 
There's a part of my property where bushes and trees block my view of the road. It's an area where trees on the other side block my neighbors view as well. You know where I find a lot of trash? Yeah, right there. People won't throw the crap out of their car window into my yard when I can see them. They wait until they can't be seen.

Whenever I go clean up the cans of 40s, bags of McDonald's or soda bottles filled with urine, I wonder what the person who chucked it there was thinking. I conclude that for them, not behaving like a decent human is fine as long as no one will know.

It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure that percentage wise, it's a very small number of folks who behave like that. But things like that can add up in your mind, and I wish I had more experiences like the guy in the video had to offset it.
 
So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to. There will always be negativity and greed, but in my eyes most people have compassion and understanding. Good will triumph over evil.

I think it’s a lot easier to have this mindset if you are white, not gay, and not trans. It’s very difficult to have optimism right now if you are in any of those categories, and they cover a lot of people.
 
So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to. There will always be negativity and greed, but in my eyes most people have compassion and understanding. Good will triumph over evil.

Agreed. It maybe naive, but I hope the us vs them rhetoric can dial back a little and we can get back to more normal lives.

It's been my experience we have a lot more in common than not. And assuming the best of people, even sometimes when it's difficult, can be a positive.
 
It's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure that percentage wise, it's a very small number of folks who behave like that. But things like that can add up in your mind, and I wish I had more experiences like the guy in the video had to offset it.

That's a fair point.

I think some of that's on us to look for the good.

There's not much of that in the media as it doesn't sell well. Anger and fear and ugliness and bad things will get way more attention.

But good stuff is out there. Sites like https://nicenews.com/home/ can be good.
 

I think it’s a lot easier to have this mindset if you are white, not gay, and not trans. It’s very difficult to have optimism right now if you are in any of those categories, and they cover a lot of people.
These are pure propaganda. And they are completely inappropriate for this forum - they smash the main rule we live under here.
 
So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to.
The division only got worse after the last two elections, why would this one be any different? I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface of how bad it will get.
 
So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to.
The division only got worse after the last two elections, why would this one be any different? I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface of how bad it will get.
Maybe on the fringes. But, on the whole, the shift in society reflected this week cut across all demographics and it was all in one direction. That kind of shift indicates the opposite of division.
 
So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to. There will always be negativity and greed, but in my eyes most people have compassion and understanding. Good will triumph over evil.

Agreed. It maybe naive, but I hope the us vs them rhetoric can dial back a little and we can get back to more normal lives.

It's been my experience we have a lot more in common than not. And assuming the best of people, even sometimes when it's difficult, can be a positive.
By and large, do you believe that American citizens share a common reality? I sure don't, and it seems like a prerequisite for maintaining a healthy UNITED States.
 
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So glad the election is over, no matter who won. I think people will now be able to see the good in others as opposed to the constant negatives we have been exposed to. There will always be negativity and greed, but in my eyes most people have compassion and understanding. Good will triumph over evil.

Agreed. It maybe naive, but I hope the us vs them rhetoric can dial back a little and we can get back to more normal lives.

It's been my experience we have a lot more in common than not. And assuming the best of people, even sometimes when it's difficult, can be a positive.
By and large, do you believe that American citizens share a common reality? I sure don't, and it seems like a prerequisite for maintaining a healthy UNITED States.

I believe what I said. It's been my experience we have a lot more in common than not. And assuming the best of people, even sometimes when it's difficult, can be a positive.
 
I'd amend thread title to "How SOME People Are," personally, but great story and message nevertheless.

That's a fair point. Certainly not everyone is good like the video describes. And the world obviously has its share of bad stuff and people.

I do think though his point is correct in things are better than some would have us believe. There's good business in fear and division and plenty of people make their trade there.

This one also will invariably get into politics. Tiring of deleting the posts that have taken it over the line so we'll wrap here.

But bottom line, I do feel optimism about people in general.
 
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