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How to adjust when QB's can be flexed? (1 Viewer)

wombat104

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12 team PPR league with standard scoring. Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te and 1 flex. New this year is flex can now be a qb in addtion to rb, wr, and te. How do you ajdust for this change? My thought is you want two strong qb's so you can always have one in the flex. Would the pool agree?

 
If you can start 2+ QBs you have to go QB-QB to start the draft and possibly QB-QB-QB if there is enough value there.

People will talk about Charles or AP or Brown or ect... but in my mind I want two every week starters that I can plug in and gain a major advantage over those teams with QBBC/bottom half QBs.

 
By the way this is how I backup going QB-QB-QB:

With a start 2QB league you are not getting a QB from waivers but likely you can get every other position as with more QBs being rostered it frees up more talent to not get drafted.

Here is an example of 2014 waiver wire talent which I am more than happy to try and catch in exchange for taking a QB in the first three rounds:

Forrsett, CJ Anderson, Robinson, Bradshaw, Asiata
Odell Beckham, Mike Evans, Jordan Matthews, Mohamed Sanu
Larry Donnell, Michael Rivera

 
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I used to play in a super flex league. You gotta take two qbs in the first 3 rounds or you won't make the playoffs in my experience.

 
The key is picking the right two qbs. I remember many years ago I had a pick at the 10 - 11 turn in a super flex. I picked Vick and Rivers, both of whom had amazing years the year before and were poised for multiple All Pros in the future. Well, both of them sh%t the bed and my team was destroyed since I had no anchor. I would try to make sure I have 3 qbs in this situation, but I don't know if I would burn a 1st on one and for sure would not go qb/qb or even qb/qb/qb.

Its a passing league now, so there are actually a lot of guys at the bottom of the heap who could potentially blow up this year. I would for sure make certain i had a nice starter like Ryan, Stafford, Romo etc. but after that I actually like dudes like Flacco, Bortles, Carr, Cutler,and Bridgewater to put up solid points this year. Just make sure you have three or maybe even four. You can always make pick ups on wrs/rbs/tes during the year. In a super flex, there will not be any qbs left once the season starts.

 
It seems that my opinion to start a 2nd QB in the flex spot is correct. I have the #3 pick and I just can't bring myself to drafting a QB that early, I think I am going to wait until 8 are off the board and then grab 2 with a high upside 3rd shortly after.

 
It seems that my opinion to start a 2nd QB in the flex spot is correct. I have the #3 pick and I just can't bring myself to drafting a QB that early, I think I am going to wait until 8 are off the board and then grab 2 with a high upside 3rd shortly after.
You have to adjust your thinking than. This league format is a different animal than what you're used to. If you can get Luck or Rodgers at 3, absolutely do so. The runs on QBs will be insane.

 
Just had my super-flex draft yesterday with a bunch of guys who after 4 years doing this, still don't understand if you can play a QB as your flex (and your scoring indicates you do so) you start a QB in your flex spot!!!

I had the #7 pick in a 12 team, 3 player keeper league and got Luck at 7. Unreal.

 
Just had my super-flex draft yesterday with a bunch of guys who after 4 years doing this, still don't understand if you can play a QB as your flex (and your scoring indicates you do so) you start a QB in your flex spot!!!

I had the #7 pick in a 12 team, 3 player keeper league and got Luck at 7. Unreal.
Yeah, it really does depend on the scoring system. For example, in my league, it's 4 points for passing TDs AND -2 points for interceptions. That really limits the value of QB.

 
It seems that my opinion to start a 2nd QB in the flex spot is correct. I have the #3 pick and I just can't bring myself to drafting a QB that early, I think I am going to wait until 8 are off the board and then grab 2 with a high upside 3rd shortly after.
I think Luck is worth it at number three when you can start 2 qbs.

 
A super flex format is a de facto 2QB league. I think conventional wisdom is to take two QBS early.

But could you still wait and take a couple from among the third tier of Brady, Eli, Tanny, Rivers, Bradford, Teddy?

 
A super flex format is a de facto 2QB league. I think conventional wisdom is to take two QBS early.

But could you still wait and take a couple from among the third tier of Brady, Eli, Tanny, Rivers, Bradford, Teddy?
In my experience with this kind of setup, a lot of those guys will be going much earlier than you think, as in late 3rd/early 4th. A lot of that is because in general (obviously scoring system dependent) the value you can gain by putting a better QB in the flex spot can not be countered with value that you may gain at the RB and WR positions.

 
A super flex format is a de facto 2QB league. I think conventional wisdom is to take two QBS early.

But could you still wait and take a couple from among the third tier of Brady, Eli, Tanny, Rivers, Bradford, Teddy?
In my experience with this kind of setup, a lot of those guys will be going much earlier than you think, as in late 3rd/early 4th. A lot of that is because in general (obviously scoring system dependent) the value you can gain by putting a better QB in the flex spot can not be countered with value that you may gain at the RB and WR positions.
Yes, QB TD's are 6 points same as RB/WR/TE so it will make sense to start a QB in the flex. Looks like I am hoping for Luck at #3 and then see what happens from there.

 
Did a draft last night with this format. Luck, Rodgers went 1,2. Pm, Ben, Brees, Ryan in first 2 rounds. Don't wait on Qb. One team is starting Eli, Dalton, another Cam. Winston and another Flacco, A. Smith.

 
A super flex format is a de facto 2QB league. I think conventional wisdom is to take two QBS early.

But could you still wait and take a couple from among the third tier of Brady, Eli, Tanny, Rivers, Bradford, Teddy?
In my experience with this kind of setup, a lot of those guys will be going much earlier than you think, as in late 3rd/early 4th. A lot of that is because in general (obviously scoring system dependent) the value you can gain by putting a better QB in the flex spot can not be countered with value that you may gain at the RB and WR positions.
Yes, QB TD's are 6 points same as RB/WR/TE so it will make sense to start a QB in the flex. Looks like I am hoping for Luck at #3 and then see what happens from there.
The owners of the first and second pick should be kicked out of the league if you get Luck or Rodgers at 3 with all touchdowns being worth 6 points and super flex.

 
Drafting #3 in a 20 year super flex league. If Luck or Rodgers falls to the 3 spot I may find religion.

If they don't (and they won't) then #3 is a #####.

 
You gotta go QB,QB with the first 2 pic's,

If you don't there will be nothing left to get.

My main league is Supeflex with QB being a player you can use in the flex spot.

After round 3 there are virtually no QB's worth rostering left, your 3rd/backup QB is basically a bye week filler for the other 2.

(and everyone takes 3 QB's, so nothing left on the waiver wire either)

This kind of league is tough to do with more than 10 owners, 10 it's not bad, the more owners the more you better get 2 good QB's.

(if it is a new league and or 1st time doing the 2 QB scenario you will have some owners sleeping on the format, and that helps) :)

 
kegger said:
You gotta go QB,QB with the first 2 pic's,

If you don't there will be nothing left to get.

My main league is Supeflex with QB being a player you can use in the flex spot.

After round 3 there are virtually no QB's worth rostering left, your 3rd/backup QB is basically a bye week filler for the other 2.

(and everyone takes 3 QB's, so nothing left on the waiver wire either)

This kind of league is tough to do with more than 10 owners, 10 it's not bad, the more owners the more you better get 2 good QB's.

(if it is a new league and or 1st time doing the 2 QB scenario you will have some owners sleeping on the format, and that helps) :)
Thanks, that is exactly the situation, flexing a QB is new this year. I am hoping owners with the first two picks don't realize the change and I can grab either Luck or Rodgers with #3.

 
I completely agree with Luck/Rodgers #3, but after that I would be careful going on an island. If everyone else isn't following suit, you can give up a ton of value to QBs sliding whether they SHOULD slide or not in your format is irrelevant. Use the back half of 1st, 1st half of 2nd to determine if you should be going QB again this time back or not. This is one case where you should probably follow the crowd. It's fine to know that VBD suggests Rodgers/Ben is worth it 1/2 in this format, but if everyone else is going to let Brady/Bradford/Teddy/Eli go to round 6 or something and ignore format change, whoever gets them could toast you.

 
Not all the managers adjusted to being able to flex a QB. I got Rodgers at 1.03 then at 2.10 there were still some QB's left so I went with CJ Anderson and at 3.03 I went with Forsett. The next time through there were still some left so at 4.10 I got A. Jeffery and then at 5.03 I snagged Tannehill. In the later rounds I also picked up Cutler to back them up.

Full team:

QB: Rodgers, Tannehill, Cutler

RB: Anderson, Forsett, Ivory and Duke Johnson

WR: Jeffery, V Jax, J. Brown, K. Wright and M. Wheaton

TE: Ertz and Miller

Def and K: Who cares

 
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Unless nobody understands the impact of the rules, Rogers and Luck go off the board at pick 1 and 2. The league is insanely weighted to picking QB's.

 
I'm in a 2 qb 6 pt TD league

Got pick 8 and I'm sure 5 Qbsat least go before I pick I'm thinking about going qb, qb what u guys think?

 
jon_mx said:
Unless nobody understands the impact of the rules, Rogers and Luck go off the board at pick 1 and 2. The league is insanely weighted to picking QB's.
Not all owners did, got Rodgers at #3 and Tannehill in the 5th round. One owner didn't draft a QB until round 10, he has Carr and Bortles as his only 2 QB's.

 
Robo35 said:
I'm in a 2 qb 6 pt TD league

Got pick 8 and I'm sure 5 Qbsat least go before I pick I'm thinking about going qb, qb what u guys think?
How many teams? I have a 2 QB league with 8 teams and by the 3rd round there are at least 10 QB's gone.

 
10 team league
Depends on what happens in front of you and the history of the league. Do QB's always go fast? If so QB/QB is probably a must. If the other teams historically do not take 2 QB's quickly then you might not need to take a 2nd QB.

 
5-6 will definitely go before me and after I pick 8 & 13 a few more will go so I'm definitelytaking one at 8 just not sure at 13 then 2-3 guys I want in 3rd rd might be gone ( Stafford, tannehill, Bradford)

 

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