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How White Evangelical Christians Fused With Trump Extremism (1 Viewer)
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
I'm eternally grateful that you mentioned this specific reality.
In polite society, conservatives whitewash their preferences through the lens of political correctness, but in the end the axioms of selfishness, intolerance, lack of compassion, and xenophobia are what hold sway in the subconscious of the conservative psyche. The single biggest lie in American politics is that the right wing is the authority on morality. I submit its quite the opposite. The linkage between Trumpies, evangelicals and proud boys is very telling, for those that are willing to listen.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
The funny part is we haven't heard such meaningless rhetoric since Nancy bleated "just say no". Making abortions illegal will simply move the procedure to back alleys. Meaningful change on social policy is never achieved by attempting to impact supply; its the demand that needs to be addressed.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Ah yes, the left strategy of linking the Proud Boys with every Trump voter. Not very clever, but I'm sure it works on the feeble minded.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Their playbook is so tired, but there’s nothing positive about what their party is doing to our country so that’s where we are I guess.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Very similar to Fox News linking all things Democrat to AOC. Many people swallow this hook, line, and sinker.
TripItUp
Footballguy
AOC and "the squad" much more representative of the Democrats than the Proud Boys are of Trump voters.
Let's try some intellectual honesty please and not compare the two.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Not my intent at all. I'm merely pointing out in a thread which questions how evangelical christians fused with trump extremism how the fusing occurred. People have pre-dispositions. That doesn't mean that a conservative christian condones the proud boys, but they are points along a line of conservatism, that's all.
As a liberal, you can link me in the same way to Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Bernie Sanders, Jerry Brown, etc. and I'll take that all day long as preferential to be linked to Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, Oliver North, Alexander Haig, etc. etc. There are limits of course...I think AOC is an idiot and that Antifa and BLM are counter-productive, but when I look at historical figures like Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, Jerry Faldwell, etc I struggle to understand why conservatism hasn't died but rather has apparently flourished built on a foundation of constituents who want to have a conversation with me about walking in the footsteps of Christ.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Looks like Fox News hooked another one. I suppose you think that Biden is an extreme Left Democrat too?
TripItUp
Footballguy
Biden is a moderate...let's not play games. Let's talk about how many Democrats voted for "Democratic Socialists" in the primaries if you want to understand how far left the party's constituents have gone.
I voted for Bill Clinton twice and Obama once. The Squad and other "Democratic Socialists" are not your Daddy's Democrats.
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TripItUp
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I would bet that more Republicans can name the members of the squad, then Democrats. The Squad is a political boogeyman made up by Fox News. They took the most Left Dems they could find, and try to use them to define the party. The fact that you think the Squad has any sway speaks volumes.
TripItUp
Footballguy
They are representative of rising "Democratic Socialist" contingency that comprised more than half of the voters in the 2019 primaries!
The fact that you think "the Squad" isn't representative of a large portion of Democrats is frightening.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I think if you did a poll in this political forum you would find that the squad are hardly representative of any of the Dems on these boards. People know who AOC is, but I couldn't tell you who the other members are. But then, I don't watch Fox or Breitbart.
James Daulton
Footballguy
How many members of the squad vs total democrat congressman? They make up a tiny fraction. Why do conservatives continue to try to scare their constituents with the socialism boogeyman?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Trump is the proverbial “says the secret part out loud” politician. That some white nationalists and evangelicals latched on to his ideas is not surprising in the least - he gave a voice to how they have been feeling for years.
James Daulton
Footballguy
I mean he announced his presidency by calling Mexicans rapist and murderers and saying that was the number one threat to this country. He knew his audience and he steadily fed it over the next few years. And he's still doing it but now he's shifted to the Big Lie. Trump succeeds when he pits groups against each other and gives conservatives a boogeyman they can fear. So horrible for this country.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
This is so true. Trump needs an enemy (or straw man) that he can attack. He doesn't really lead, he bully's. That's why he had so much trouble with Covid-19. He couldn't blame the Dems, and people were more concerned with the Virus than blaming China at the time.
Even when California was being ravaged by wild fires, he couldn't offer words of support. All he could do was tell the damn Dems to sweep up their forests better.
