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How would YOU repair the NFL playoffs? (1 Viewer)

let me guess, you're a Patriots fan? :lmao:
Try reading the thread, totally impartial and objective here. As far as I'm concerned, they're Team A through Team Z. Just looking for the best system to pick the real "best" teams, not just the luckiest ones.
 
more deserving than the Steelers and Packers.
Steelers and Packers are lucky, not good. Not much more to explain.
What about either of their seasons was luck.And yes...there is a lot to explain when two teams with defenses that are this good are considered undeserving and lucky and a team like Denver...with a putrid defense, not so great offense and went 4-12 is somehow good in your eyes.Your system (nay...fishing) stinks.
Why are you still entertaining this clown? :lmao:
 
Maybe someone else already posted this, but maybe they should do like basketball, hockey, and baseball and use 7-game series in the playoffs...
Someone did propose best-of-three... I think we came up with a "big game" for the first one, played like a normal NFL game. But the second game would just be the loser's defense vs. the winner's offense for the same time-of-possession the winner's offense had in that first big game. If they can't hold them a second time, it's over. If they can, then the loser's offense gets to take the field vs. the winner's defense, for the remaining time-of-possession. Then the loser has to beat the winner's defense to take a 2-1 lead and leave with the victory. That way, if the loser beats the winner in the one-on-one, head-to-head matchup TWICE, they're proven to really be the better team, regardless of whatever fluke allowed the first game to go the way it did.
Best of three leaves too much room for luck IMO. There should be at least two home games for the lower seeded team. Maybe best of five is the way to go...
 
Sarnoff said:
SD should be in the SB since they had one of the top rated offenses and defenses consistently throughout the season.
That's a great point, that's at totally valid way of measuring "best" that can be used to provide rankings/seedings. Take all 32 teams rankings, from 1-32, on offense and defense, average them (SD would average a 1 on offense and a 1 on defense to, obviously, 1), and take the 12 best teams and slot them in the playoffs. :thumbup:
Instead I think we should give more points besides just for TDs, FGs, etc. Kind of like fantasy football, also give a point for every 10 yards you gain, but subtract a point for every 10 yards you give up. Get a point for every sack, fumble recovery, interception, etc. and lose a point for every sack given up and every turnover committed.Of course the point totals could be changed around, but this would help reward a team like SD that ranked 1st in offense and defense but lost for whatever reasons...
 
perhapse a 1 2 3 4 i declare a thumb war betwee the two teams withthe best records because the guy in the thumb war would have to be a guy that played so it would be a strategy to see how teams could hide a guy on O or D who stinks at football but who had a gigantic thumb and ruled at 1 2 3 4 thumb wars

 
Top 8 teams from each conference. No byes. 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5. Reseed after each round. Winning team from each conference plays for the championship.

 
Instead I think we should give more points besides just for TDs, FGs, etc. Kind of like fantasy football, also give a point for every 10 yards you gain, but subtract a point for every 10 yards you give up. Get a point for every sack, fumble recovery, interception, etc. and lose a point for every sack given up and every turnover committed.Of course the point totals could be changed around, but this would help reward a team like SD that ranked 1st in offense and defense but lost for whatever reasons...
Good ideas :popcorn: I'll send these along to my uncle, he loves hearing what the fans think.
 
Instead I think we should give more points besides just for TDs, FGs, etc. Kind of like fantasy football, also give a point for every 10 yards you gain, but subtract a point for every 10 yards you give up. Get a point for every sack, fumble recovery, interception, etc. and lose a point for every sack given up and every turnover committed.Of course the point totals could be changed around, but this would help reward a team like SD that ranked 1st in offense and defense but lost for whatever reasons...
Good ideas ;) I'll send these along to my uncle, he loves hearing what the fans think.
Who's your uncle? (Sorry if you posted earlier, I didn't read the whole thread...)
 
Top 8 teams from each conference. No byes. 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5. Reseed after each round. Winning team from each conference plays for the championship.
wont work according to the OP. If the #8 seeds make the finals they were lucky and OBVIOUSLY not deserving like the 4-12 Broncos are.
 
Who's your uncle? (Sorry if you posted earlier, I didn't read the whole thread...)
He says I can't use his name on the boards, but he works for the NFL in NYC. Never know which of these suggestions might make it in once the CBA is done.
 
It seems impossible to argue that football is uniquely structured to be most likely to produce a champion that would differ from who we might argue is the "best team" of the year.

A professional football season has a very small sample size anyway, and one game playoffs just amplify the effect. Add in an unbalanced schedule, and you get the current system. I don't think it can really be fixed because you can't really play more games.

 
Simulations?
"Simulations", in one way or another, are part of any decent computerized poll system. Otherwise, what's the point of using a computer? Somehow two teams that haven't played against each other have to be compared objectively. Any sort of comparison that aims to place one above the other is a simulation of sorts.
And any simulations are far inferior to actually playing the games.Those things you call random and luck are part of the game of football. Good teams overcome them and make their own luck.Bad teams go 4-12 and have to rely on math to be considered contenders.
Trying to strip luck out of the equation is asinine. Why? Because there really is no such thing as luck.When you roll a die in craps, the result isn't luck, it's the result of physics. If you could measure each variable in play...velocity and angle of release, orientation of the die, surface friction of the table, etc...you could then predict the outcome of every roll. So what we call luck is actually just an admission that we cannot predict the outcome with certainty because we cannot quantify each variable in play.What's silly about the idea of the computer simulation is the that computer can only process the data fed into it. And the model is still based upon certain premises and prejudices that color the way the computer uses the data. So our inability to predict real life outcomes because of luck necessarily means that the computer model which purports to eliminate luck merely makes a prediction by intentionally ignoring important, vital variables that DO affect the outcome of the contest. It's basically throwing up your hands in defeat and deciding that certain variables are not to be calculated even though we KNOW they affect the outcome of games.It's like trying to make a cake and because you don't know how much flour to put in, you just eliminate it altogether. Well, what you get isn't a cake.
 
Sarnoff said:
John 14:6 said:
Who's your uncle? (Sorry if you posted earlier, I didn't read the whole thread...)
He says I can't use his name on the boards, but he works for the NFL in NYC. Never know which of these suggestions might make it in once the CBA is done.
How about a pic?
 
More games = truer idea of who is best, so why don't they extend the season/schedule?

Baseball goes for 9 months, Basketball for 8, so why does football only last five? Extend the season by 3 months, that's 12 more games. A team's record will better reflect it's true ability's over 28 games compared to 16.

If the players don't like it, tough. Go figure out a new way to make millions then. Fans pay their salaries, and if the fans want a true champion instead of the current system, they have to deal with it.

 
If the players don't like it, tough. Go figure out a new way to make millions then. Fans pay their salaries, and if the fans want a true champion instead of the current system, they have to deal with it.
I don't think fans have any problem with the current system.
 
More games = truer idea of who is best, so why don't they extend the season/schedule?

Baseball goes for 9 months, Basketball for 8, so why does football only last five? Extend the season by 3 months, that's 12 more games. A team's record will better reflect it's true ability's over 28 games compared to 16.

If the players don't like it, tough. Go figure out a new way to make millions then. Fans pay their salaries, and if the fans want a true champion instead of the current system, they have to deal with it.
Do you really wonder why it's only 5 months?
 
scoobygang said:
It seems impossible to argue that football is uniquely structured to be most likely to produce a champion that would differ from who we might argue is the "best team" of the year.
"Football is uniquely structured to be most likely to produce a champion that would differ from who we might argue is the "best team" of the year."There. I just did.:christo'ed:
 
More games = truer idea of who is best, so why don't they extend the season/schedule?

Baseball goes for 9 months, Basketball for 8, so why does football only last five? Extend the season by 3 months, that's 12 more games. A team's record will better reflect it's true ability's over 28 games compared to 16.

If the players don't like it, tough. Go figure out a new way to make millions then. Fans pay their salaries, and if the fans want a true champion instead of the current system, they have to deal with it.
Do you really wonder why it's only 5 months?
Because it hasn't been that popular for as long as baseball. It's already been increased from 12 to 14 to 16 games. And will soon be 18. Give it time...we'll eventually have 20+ game seasons.
 
The correct answer isC. That someone continually takes the bait :thumbup:
Please take your crap with me elsewhere.2 posts in a row...again just trying to take shots at me.Grow up.
:lmao:
You have 4 posts in this thread...all 4 about me.I don't go your way...Im happily married.Take your crap about me elsewhere and grow up.
Wow. Just awful. Yet another example of sho nuff showing why he's an awful addition to fbg's. I don't understand why being a homosexual is a bad thing but way to use it like an insult. You really are pathetic. Either have a discussion about fixing the playoff system in a mature fashion or just ignore the thread. Don't whine that it's fishing while still coming back and insulting people.And :lmao: at everyone being called a Patriots homer if they think the system is flawed. Is there any doubt the Chargers would have been able to give the Packers a run for their money? And what of the Raiders going undeafeted in their division yet missing the playoffs? We don't need to overhaul everything but a few tweaks are needed.
 
The correct answer isC. That someone continually takes the bait :thumbup:
Please take your crap with me elsewhere.2 posts in a row...again just trying to take shots at me.Grow up.
:lmao:
You have 4 posts in this thread...all 4 about me.I don't go your way...Im happily married.Take your crap about me elsewhere and grow up.
Wow. Just awful. Yet another example of sho nuff showing why he's an awful addition to fbg's. I don't understand why being a homosexual is a bad thing but way to use it like an insult. You really are pathetic. Either have a discussion about fixing the playoff system in a mature fashion or just ignore the thread. Don't whine that it's fishing while still coming back and insulting people.And :lmao: at everyone being called a Patriots homer if they think the system is flawed. Is there any doubt the Chargers would have been able to give the Packers a run for their money? And what of the Raiders going undeafeted in their division yet missing the playoffs? We don't need to overhaul everything but a few tweaks are needed.
:goodposting: He was called out for taking the bait in this thread and he had a massive fit saying that was "taking shots" at him then he insults the person that called him out for taking the bait.
 
Ookie Pringle said:
Dr. Awesome said:
Wow. Just awful. Yet another example of sho nuff showing why he's an awful addition to fbg's. I don't understand why being a homosexual is a bad thing but way to use it like an insult. You really are pathetic. Either have a discussion about fixing the playoff system in a mature fashion or just ignore the thread.

Don't whine that it's fishing while still coming back and insulting people.

And :bag: at everyone being called a Patriots homer if they think the system is flawed. Is there any doubt the Chargers would have been able to give the Packers a run for their money?

And what of the Raiders going undeafeted in their division yet missing the playoffs? We don't need to overhaul everything but a few tweaks are needed.
:goodposting: He was called out for taking the bait in this thread and he had a massive fit saying that was "taking shots" at him then he insults the person that called him out for taking the bait.
:cry: :bag: :bag: all around.Totally classless reactions by a lot of the "sharks", shows why this place is more like the Shart Pool sometimes.

 
Ookie Pringle said:
Dr. Awesome said:
Wow. Just awful. Yet another example of sho nuff showing why he's an awful addition to fbg's. I don't understand why being a homosexual is a bad thing but way to use it like an insult. You really are pathetic. Either have a discussion about fixing the playoff system in a mature fashion or just ignore the thread.

Don't whine that it's fishing while still coming back and insulting people.

And :lmao: at everyone being called a Patriots homer if they think the system is flawed. Is there any doubt the Chargers would have been able to give the Packers a run for their money?

And what of the Raiders going undeafeted in their division yet missing the playoffs? We don't need to overhaul everything but a few tweaks are needed.
:thumbup: He was called out for taking the bait in this thread and he had a massive fit saying that was "taking shots" at him then he insults the person that called him out for taking the bait.
:thumbup: :goodposting: :goodposting: all around.Totally classless reactions by a lot of the "sharks", shows why this place is more like the Shart Pool sometimes.
:goodposting:
 
The two teams with the best record (applying tiebreakers of course) play each other in the Super Bowl. This year would be Patriots vs Falcons. If you want playoffs, have them. Seed the next 12 teams by record and have a tournament. For third place.
Yeah, there's no controversy with the BCS every year.
 
Pittsburgh pretty much got laughed off the field. They didn't play like they belonged there at all. Very sloppy. Defense couldn't contain the pass and the offense was awful.

Colts or Patriots should have gone. We would have had a much better game.

 
Philo said:
Pittsburgh pretty much got laughed off the field. They didn't play like they belonged there at all. Very sloppy. Defense couldn't contain the pass and the offense was awful.Colts or Patriots should have gone. We would have had a much better game.
You're kidding, right? That was one of the better Super Bowls in history. Only 11 times has the game been decided by less than 7 points. Pittsburgh came back from 18 down to get within 4, and from 11 down to get within 3. It was entertaining, both defenses played well, and the game was decided by turnovers. Sounds like football.
 
Philo said:
Pittsburgh pretty much got laughed off the field. They didn't play like they belonged there at all. Very sloppy. Defense couldn't contain the pass and the offense was awful.Colts or Patriots should have gone. We would have had a much better game.
Terrible posting and hopefully schtick. The game came down to the final 2 minutes so I'm not sure how we could have seen a "much better game". LOL @ the Colts...that would have been a massacre.
 
Philo said:
Pittsburgh pretty much got laughed off the field. They didn't play like they belonged there at all. Very sloppy. Defense couldn't contain the pass and the offense was awful.Colts or Patriots should have gone. We would have had a much better game.
You're kidding, right? That was one of the better Super Bowls in history. Only 11 times has the game been decided by less than 7 points. Pittsburgh came back from 18 down to get within 4, and from 11 down to get within 3. It was entertaining, both defenses played well, and the game was decided by turnovers. Sounds like football.
The score was close because both teams kinda sucked. Pittsburgh just sucked more.If the Lions played the Redskins to a 24-20 victory, would that have proven both teams deserved to be in the Super Bowl?
 
Terrible posting and hopefully schtick. The game came down to the final 2 minutes so I'm not sure how we could have seen a "much better game". LOL @ the Colts...that would have been a massacre.
Yeah, the Colts would have massacred either team, probably giving us another 55-10 SB blowout. Proving they would have been more deserving of the title.Sure, the game would have been "boring" but just because it's a close game doesn't mean both teams are excellent. Equally awful is more like it.
 
Terrible posting and hopefully schtick. The game came down to the final 2 minutes so I'm not sure how we could have seen a "much better game". LOL @ the Colts...that would have been a massacre.
Yeah, the Colts would have massacred either team, probably giving us another 55-10 SB blowout. Proving they would have been more deserving of the title.Sure, the game would have been "boring" but just because it's a close game doesn't mean both teams are excellent. Equally awful is more like it.
lol
 
The score was close because both teams kinda sucked. Pittsburgh just sucked more.
I think you must have been watching the Puppy Bowl.
My point stands. Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing.
You just contradicted yourself. :lmao:
How so? My statement was that neither team deserved to be there. CalBear said that because the final score was close, they were both excellent teams. I dispute that idea, that the final score being close does not indicate both teams were good, it's also possible that both teams are bad, which was my original assertion. CalBear cannot use the final score to prove both teams are good. No contradiction.
 
The score was close because both teams kinda sucked. Pittsburgh just sucked more.
I think you must have been watching the Puppy Bowl.
My point stands. Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing.
You just contradicted yourself. <_<
How so? My statement was that neither team deserved to be there. CalBear said that because the final score was close, they were both excellent teams. I dispute that idea, that the final score being close does not indicate both teams were good, it's also possible that both teams are bad, which was my original assertion. CalBear cannot use the final score to prove both teams are good. No contradiction.
How so?"The score was close because both teams kinda sucked.""Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing."Any 3rd grader could see that those two comments are contradicting.
 
The score was close because both teams kinda sucked. Pittsburgh just sucked more.
I think you must have been watching the Puppy Bowl.
My point stands. Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing.
You just contradicted yourself. <_<
How so? My statement was that neither team deserved to be there. CalBear said that because the final score was close, they were both excellent teams. I dispute that idea, that the final score being close does not indicate both teams were good, it's also possible that both teams are bad, which was my original assertion. CalBear cannot use the final score to prove both teams are good. No contradiction.
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How so?"The score was close because both teams kinda sucked.""Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing."Any 3rd grader could see that those two comments are contradicting.
:coffee:
Sure, taken out of context. In the first comment, I was disputing the original statement that "the teams were good because the score was close". I'm not saying that "all close games are because of sucky teams", I'm saying "close games are an indication that both teams are about evenly matched". CalBear was the one who said the teams were both good because the score was close.ETA: The first comment relates the teams to each other. But the second comment is about how the teams compare to the rest of the league. If two teams play a close game, they are probably equally matched to each other. But you can't extrapolate from that how they relate to the other 30 teams, or if any of the other teams would be better.
 
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How so?"The score was close because both teams kinda sucked.""Final score is no indication of the quality of the teams playing."Any 3rd grader could see that those two comments are contradicting.
:coffee:
Sure, taken out of context. In the first comment, I was disputing the original statement that "the teams were good because the score was close". I'm not saying that "all close games are because of sucky teams", I'm saying "close games are an indication that both teams are about evenly matched". CalBear was the one who said the teams were both good because the score was close.
When you made the statement that the Colts would beat the Packers 55-10, you lost any credibility that you may have had. Just give it up already. You're making no sense at all.
 
I'm not saying that "all close games are because of sucky teams", I'm saying "close games are an indication that both teams are about evenly matched". CalBear was the one who said the teams were both good because the score was close.
No, I said it was "one of the better Super Bowls in history" because the score was close. I also said it was entertaining and both defenses played well.But really, I don't see any backing for your assertion that "Pittsburgh didn't play like they belonged there at all." They had three turnovers, one when Ben's arm got hit, one when a Green Bay defender made an excellent play on a reasonable throw, and one on a fumble on a good hit from Matthews (and recovery by Bishop, Go Bears.) Ben's TD pass to Matthews was beautiful, as was Rodgers' pass to Jennings down the seam. I really don't know what game you were watching if you thought this wasn't well-played.
 
I'm not saying that "all close games are because of sucky teams", I'm saying "close games are an indication that both teams are about evenly matched". CalBear was the one who said the teams were both good because the score was close.
No, I said it was "one of the better Super Bowls in history" because the score was close. I also said it was entertaining and both defenses played well.But really, I don't see any backing for your assertion that "Pittsburgh didn't play like they belonged there at all." They had three turnovers, one when Ben's arm got hit, one when a Green Bay defender made an excellent play on a reasonable throw, and one on a fumble on a good hit from Matthews (and recovery by Bishop, Go Bears.) Ben's TD pass to Matthews was beautiful, as was Rodgers' pass to Jennings down the seam. I really don't know what game you were watching if you thought this wasn't well-played.
Had so many Packers not been injured, Pittsburgh might not have scored a single touchdown. But both teams were very sloppy. Neither really played technically good football.Sure, the game had tension, and the game was "good" from that standpoint, but that doesn't imply both teams deserved to be in the Super Bowl. A better designed playoff system would have put two better teams in the game and we would have had just as exciting a game, only played with a lot fewer mistakes.
 

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