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[jon_mx]

If BestBuy had in their inventory 200K+? How many were at WalMart? Target? etc.? How many were in the warehouses that the online places distribute from? A week from now how many of these are going to have shipped? Half million? A million? More?

I think one estimate has about 350K sold this weekend. I think that is on the low end. I think over the next two weeks they will have gone through the inventory which is probably a bit over a million. An article from 4 days ago said BestBuy bought 270,000 units and only had sold 25K at that time. I don't see that BestBuy sold very many this weekend. In fact they never made any available for online sales, but only had a handful for in store pickup orders. They were not geared up for the kind of rush and are probably going to have a big promotion coming soon to generate store traffic.

 

[SacramentoBob]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

 

[toadstool]

Thought some of you guys might be interested in this

http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327

If you decide to go over to Rootz and post, please know the thread I led you to is for development topics.

 

[jon_mx]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

 

[Otis]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

Lol

 

[culdeus]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

Way high. I'd be shocked if the AUP of these are more than $80. Tablets are nothing more than an oversized screen duct taped to a cell phone.

 

[jon_mx]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

Lol

How much does the TouchPad cost HP to build?

Tim Stiffler-Dean | Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:57 am EDT | 12 comments

$318. Or so the research and teardown experts at iSupply have found that to be the approximate number. If you break down the device and look at the materials as they are ordered, piece by piece, we can get a good idea at the total price for HP to even produce one of these new tablet devices. At a $318 pricetag for the 32GB TouchPad, the device only gets a return of about $281. Out of that HP still has a number of other companies along the sales chain that they'll need to pay out (the stores, shipping companies, advertisments, etc..) and as iSupply points out, "the teardown costs account only for hardware and manufacturing and do not include other expenses such as software, royalties and licensing fees." So the amount that HP actually makes on the device we can't entirely be sure of yet, but we know it's not a whole lot.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

The 32 is available on the HP small & medium business page.

Not necessarily. That being said my order is still being processed as if it is real. However the tablet is "back ordered" expected to ship on Tuesday (the 32 G) and Thursday (the 16 G).

@BrynaAtHP

SMB store: If you were charged + got order #, hang on 2 ur hats & hope you get one. U R backordered. More coming. BUT 1st come, 1st served.

So there is a chance. I'm assuming they won't come, but it is somewhat fun sitting here waiting. I don't want to get into the game of trying to flip these things so I'm not paying attention to when these pop up here and there as I don't really want twenty. One or none, either is fine.

 

[culdeus]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

Lol

How much does the TouchPad cost HP to build?

Tim Stiffler-Dean | Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:57 am EDT | 12 comments

$318. Or so the research and teardown experts at iSupply have found that to be the approximate number. If you break down the device and look at the materials as they are ordered, piece by piece, we can get a good idea at the total price for HP to even produce one of these new tablet devices. At a $318 pricetag for the 32GB TouchPad, the device only gets a return of about $281. Out of that HP still has a number of other companies along the sales chain that they'll need to pay out (the stores, shipping companies, advertisments, etc..) and as iSupply points out, "the teardown costs account only for hardware and manufacturing and do not include other expenses such as software, royalties and licensing fees." So the amount that HP actually makes on the device we can't entirely be sure of yet, but we know it's not a whole lot.

Those numbers from teardowns based on catalog sales of components are super high. You make an order for even a full reel of components and the price drops by a considerable amount. Isn't this the same site that estimated the ipad to run like 800 bucks? I work for a major supplier of batteries for mobile devices. You would be shocked how cheap this stuff is cost wise now.

 

[goonsquad]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

The problem is, it probably costs them close to $300 to build them. Unless there is money to be made elsewhere, the hardware side is a loser.

Lol

How much does the TouchPad cost HP to build?

Tim Stiffler-Dean | Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:57 am EDT | 12 comments

$318. Or so the research and teardown experts at iSupply have found that to be the approximate number. If you break down the device and look at the materials as they are ordered, piece by piece, we can get a good idea at the total price for HP to even produce one of these new tablet devices. At a $318 pricetag for the 32GB TouchPad, the device only gets a return of about $281. Out of that HP still has a number of other companies along the sales chain that they'll need to pay out (the stores, shipping companies, advertisments, etc..) and as iSupply points out, "the teardown costs account only for hardware and manufacturing and do not include other expenses such as software, royalties and licensing fees." So the amount that HP actually makes on the device we can't entirely be sure of yet, but we know it's not a whole lot.

Those numbers from teardowns based on catalog sales of components are super high. You make an order for even a full reel of components and the price drops by a considerable amount. Isn't this the same site that estimated the ipad to run like 800 bucks? I work for a major supplier of batteries for mobile devices. You would be shocked how cheap this stuff is cost wise now.

Don't forget to add in the $1.2 billion they paid for the OS. Being generous and guessing they manufactured a million units, that comes to $1,200 per Touchpad for just the OS. (I know it doesn't really work like this but it's fun to think about).

 

[East Coast Bias]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

 

[Brady Marino]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

 

[Brady Marino]

Thought some of you guys might be interested in this http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327If you decide to go over to Rootz and post, please know the thread I led you to is for development topics.

Once you can port a stable Droid platform to the Touchpad, $111 shipped (through Barnes and Noble) will be a mega-bargain.

 

[Pabst Blue Ribbon]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

thanks man!

 

[culdeus]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

thanks man!

OOS at B&N. I think most think that the only places really left to get them from will be HP in unknown quantities. Article on what to do with your touchpad while waiting for the droid port.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/how-to-improve-the-performance-of-your-new-hp-touchpad/3866

 

[jon_mx]

Unless Best Buy already shipped their inventory back to HP already, there is no way they got rif of their inventory yet. I still think there is a substantial amount that needs to be dumped. Also, there were lots of people who ordered multiple units from different sites and once their order was confirmed will either cancell the other order or then return it.

 

[culdeus]

Unless Best Buy already shipped their inventory back to HP already, there is no way they got rif of their inventory yet. I still think there is a substantial amount that needs to be dumped. Also, there were lots of people who ordered multiple units from different sites and once their order was confirmed will either cancell the other order or then return it.

Follow the slick deals thread loosely. There are inventory searchers on there as well. Every single BB nationwide is OOS. Different stores shipped back, but most sold out the front door Sunday. Other retailers like Office Depot and WalMart got hammered as well. These things are just not sitting on anyone's shelves in the quantity to meet demand. It doesn't appear HP built millions of these to start with either. There might be some on the water right now, but those easily could be sold already at this point to fill the HP SB sales Friday-Saturday. There will be small pockets of online guys waking up on Monday and trying to unload them, but after seeing what happened to the servers of the small guys my bet is they send back to HP and never bother dropping the price.

 

[culdeus]

cdw just dropped

http://www.cdw.com/

 

[Otis]

cdw just dropped http://www.cdw.com/

And the servers are down...

 

[Ignoramus]

cdw just dropped http://www.cdw.com/

And the servers are down...

I've got a 16GB and a 32GB in my cart. Haven't been able to check out yet though.

 

[culdeus]

CDW is totally OOS.

Onsale is sending cancellations now.

Anyone that thinks these things are in such high volume that anyone can get them is insane. I do think the flippers will be ultimately not paid off for their efforts.

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

 

[Ignoramus]

cdw just dropped http://www.cdw.com/

And the servers are down...

I've got a 16GB and a 32GB in my cart. Haven't been able to check out yet though.

"Your order has been submitted successfully"

 

[culdeus]

Onsale

Saturday - GTG

Sunday - 50/50

Monday - SOL

Looks like costcentral was the best bet for the latecomers yesterday. Everyone seems to think all systems go there.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

My order at HP is still "wait and see". It was not cancelled but nothing shipped nor was any "allocated". We shall see.

 

[culdeus]

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

My order at HP is still "wait and see". It was not cancelled but nothing shipped nor was any "allocated". We shall see.

You are probably fine. I'm sure the last place to get one will be from hp. They are going to announce how the rest will be handled probably tomorrow. On the main site you can sign up for email updates. I doubt any other Internet site will bother to post one after what's already happened.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

My order at HP is still "wait and see". It was not cancelled but nothing shipped nor was any "allocated". We shall see.

You are probably fine. I'm sure the last place to get one will be from hp. They are going to announce how the rest will be handled probably tomorrow. On the main site you can sign up for email updates. I doubt any other Internet site will bother to post one after what's already happened.

I'm more entertained by this than really stressed one way or another.

Thank you for your interest in the HP TouchPad

HP Small and Medium Business Customers

We have received unprecedented orders as a result of the tremendous discount offered. This is clear confirmation to HP there is huge interest in building a webOS community. We apologize for any difficulty you may have had in ordering on the web or through the phone this weekend; it was as a result of selling out of our current inventory.

Your order has been captured and you should receive a confirmation over the next 48 hours.

Additionally, some of our customers may have experienced a pricing error while purchasing on August 20th and 21st. We are in the process of ensuring every order is honored at the discounted price and will send you confirmation via email.

:

:

Sincerely,

Your HP Small and Medium Business Team

 

[Pabst Blue Ribbon]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

thanks man!

Barnes and Noble just emailed me, no tablet for me after all. BOOOO

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

My order at HP is still "wait and see". It was not cancelled but nothing shipped nor was any "allocated". We shall see.

You are probably fine. ...

The saga continues...

Spoiler

BrynaAtHP Bryna Corcoran

SMB out of stock forever. #unlessmiraclehappens They are fulfilling previous orders they have rec'd as much as possible. But they R tapped.

SMB tweet 1) Once you receive the order acknowledgement email then there is an order status link... this is best way 2 know when it ships..

SMB tweet 2) some orders may be in backlog a while as we organise stock and inventory to allocate rec'd orders.

SMB tweet 3) But order confirmation doesn't mean allocated stock - it means your order was accepted and put on backorder - will try to fill.

SMB tweet 4) Site is going in2 maintenance mode to fix link that's allowing orders. You may see broken link on order status temporarily.

SMB tweet 5) The call center has closed for new callers but will answer everyone who is on hold. Final tweets from SMB.

SMB store: Not more inventory. Donzies. Finito. Empty. Bye Bye. Will do best to fulfill orders that have been rec'd. But no new orders.

Home & Home Office: Yes getting more. Not in stock YET. Any day now. Follow me I guess? or sign up to get alert: bit.ly/o1iuzl

...For the record: New inventory coming is from a warehouse, not being manufactured.

Wonder if HP's "Social Media Manager & Corp. Ninja" has a future in the new HP? Wonder if she know?

 

[jon_mx]

I got a confirmation that my order was shipped from amazon. Not sure if the second one from eBay will make it.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I got a confirmation that my order was shipped from amazon. Not sure if the second one from eBay will make it.

'grats - I hope.

 

[Reepicheep]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

There's a huge demand for free ponies, too. Not really a sustainable business model though.

 

[Brady Marino]

Barnes and Noble just lowered their price online if anyone is still looking.

Link

thanks man!

Barnes and Noble just emailed me, no tablet for me after all. BOOOO

Same here.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

There's a huge demand for free ponies, too. Not really a sustainable business model though.

Yeah and it's not just this product they're giving up on, it's whole division. Not only are they following IBMs model but they just hired a bunch of IBM bigshots near the top of the food chain.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

This should be serious motivation for HP not to give up the product line. They were just priced too high. There's obviously a demand for them.

There's a huge demand for free ponies, too. Not really a sustainable business model though.

Yeah and it's not just this product they're giving up on, it's whole division. Not only are they following IBMs model but they just hired a bunch of IBM bigshots near the top of the food chain.

And have been demonstrating the power and reliability of their primary product offering all weekend.

 

[culdeus]

http://erwincomputers.com/fb454utaba.html

Try this if you are feeling lucky.

 

[Brady Marino]

Followed the SlickDeals thread compulsively for about 3 hours last night. What is wrong with me.....

 

[culdeus]

http://erwincomputers.com/fb454utaba.htmlTry this if you are feeling lucky.

I don't think sd has found this one. It came from another site. I am not ordering one here. I'm confident my cc one is coming.

 

[Brady Marino]

http://erwincomputers.com/fb454utaba.htmlTry this if you are feeling lucky.

I don't think sd has found this one. It came from another site. I am not ordering one here. I'm confident my cc one is coming.

They did, but the consensus was these guys are iffy.

 

[Ignoramus]

My CDW order hasn't been charged yet and isn't showing up under 'My Orders.' No cancellation email yet though.

 

[FDASv2.0]

There's a huge demand for free ponies, too. Not really a sustainable business model though.

I am so using this line during a conference call this week.

 

[culdeus]

My guess is that in a couple of days the sellers that still have them say screw it and ship back to HP. HP ships what they can from the first frenzy on this and then opens orders for a select remaining few sometime late this week.

My order at HP is still "wait and see". It was not cancelled but nothing shipped nor was any "allocated". We shall see.

You are probably fine. ...

The saga continues...

Spoiler

BrynaAtHP Bryna Corcoran

SMB out of stock forever. #unlessmiraclehappens They are fulfilling previous orders they have rec'd as much as possible. But they R tapped.

SMB tweet 1) Once you receive the order acknowledgement email then there is an order status link... this is best way 2 know when it ships..

SMB tweet 2) some orders may be in backlog a while as we organise stock and inventory to allocate rec'd orders.

SMB tweet 3) But order confirmation doesn't mean allocated stock - it means your order was accepted and put on backorder - will try to fill.

SMB tweet 4) Site is going in2 maintenance mode to fix link that's allowing orders. You may see broken link on order status temporarily.

SMB tweet 5) The call center has closed for new callers but will answer everyone who is on hold. Final tweets from SMB.

SMB store: Not more inventory. Donzies. Finito. Empty. Bye Bye. Will do best to fulfill orders that have been rec'd. But no new orders.

Home & Home Office: Yes getting more. Not in stock YET. Any day now. Follow me I guess? or sign up to get alert: bit.ly/o1iuzl

...For the record: New inventory coming is from a warehouse, not being manufactured.

Wonder if HP's "Social Media Manager & Corp. Ninja" has a future in the new HP? Wonder if she know?

Just a hunch. HP was supposed to get a ton in later this week sometime. They probably got a ton of orders for their on hand inventory + some number. Knowing whatever they had in excess of that was a pretty small quantity they may be working with other vendors that got oversold to just clean them up and call it a day.

I know if I was HP I'd rather just sit tight and not re-open the ordering again and cause all that headache. I mean for ####s sake the email system to know IF they were to have more systems was down for most of the weekend.

 

[culdeus]

I love how CNN posted an article about an hour ago based nearly entirely on the HP social media person's tweets from mid-day sunday which are now completely obsolete.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I love how CNN posted an article about an hour ago based nearly entirely on the HP social media person's tweets from mid-day sunday which are now completely obsolete.

BrynaAtHP Bryna CorcoranAll quiet on the home front so far. Reminder: NO STOCK in US stores yet. Calling & asking when & how is just crazy talk kids.

The Order Status page was broken...BrynaAtHP Bryna CorcoranMay see broken links on SMB order status for a lil' bit. Not to worry. Back up soon. #staycoolmybabies

No cancellation yet.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

BrynaAtHP Bryna CorcoranUpdate from SMB: If U ordered b4 2pm ET on Sat. U were in the 1st batch orders. Well done you were ahead of the curve.

I'm 5PM but the site states 8PM. Hopefully there is a second batch. We shall see. So entertaining.

 

[culdeus]

BrynaAtHP Bryna CorcoranUpdate from SMB: If U ordered b4 2pm ET on Sat. U were in the 1st batch orders. Well done you were ahead of the curve.

I'm 5PM but the site states 8PM. Hopefully there is a second batch. We shall see. So entertaining.

Just a hunch but I would bet some places are begging for more of these to fufill the crush of orders they got. HP will serve them before releasing from corporate.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

BrynaAtHP Bryna CorcoranUpdate from SMB: If U ordered b4 2pm ET on Sat. U were in the 1st batch orders. Well done you were ahead of the curve.

I'm 5PM but the site states 8PM. Hopefully there is a second batch. We shall see. So entertaining.

Just a hunch but I would bet some places are begging for more of these to fufill the crush of orders they got. HP will serve them before releasing from corporate.

Actually reading just Bryna's tweets and not reading anything else, I have a feeling that HP is going to have an uproar of disgruntled customer that ordered on their SMB site which will have their orders cancelled because they are no more at the warehouse while they start to retake orders at the Home and Office site. I'm guessing I'm right on the border. I'll probably only be disappointed if mine ship and/or are cancelled before this whole mess plays out. The order is kind of like having a bet on a game, except I'm not sure which result is a win.

 

[culdeus]

my onsale order was just killt. I'm down to just 1 pending of 7 ordered.

 

[toadstool]

my onsale order was just killt. I'm down to just 1 pending of 7 ordered.

Mine too. I now have had all 5 orders cancelled for this. HPOnSaleAmazonB&NCDW

 

[Otis]

Still no news from CostCentral, other than the confirmation e-mail I got on Monday, which indicated that processing time may be slowed due to the large response.

 

[culdeus]

Still no news from CostCentral, other than the confirmation e-mail I got on Monday, which indicated that processing time may be slowed due to the large response.

What is your order number?At the rate they are processing the orders it will be Christmas before we get them.