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HR1-For the People Act (1 Viewer)
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Mile High
Footballguy
It actually a drivers license and you can't have an Id and a drivers license at the same time.
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Mile High
Footballguy
I'm saying in Colorado you can't have a ID and a DL. They will cancel your DL. My father died a fee years ago and I went back to Kansas and worked while I was there and got a Kansas Id to make cashing checks easier. Colorado canceled my DL. Didn't even realize it until I went to pull up my Driving record for a delivery job. Pretty sure you can't have a DL from two states at the same time, kind of like that. You can have a DL or an ID not both at the same time.
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shadrap
Footballguy
well then I guess you don't need to carry another one.
your point is completely lost on me.
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The Commish
Footballguy
Doesn't fit the narrative all that well.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
You get an identification card and then go to the Georgia Department of Driver Services and go through the same process as getting a photo ID for a Drivers License or State ID. The Voter ID card has your photo and signature on it with your Voter ID number. The Voter ID card is free.
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
You mean other than complying with Federal Law (see, Help America Vote Act of 2002)? They reduce fraud in elections. I've seen people here say that voter fraud isn't widespread enough to matter. The 2000 general election came down to 500 votes in Florida and there are many local elections that are closer than that. It matters.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Manchin, Murkowski call on Congress to reauthorize Voting Rights Act
WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, wrote a letter Monday calling on Congress to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act, seeking to jump-start a debate on a bipartisan path to bolstering voting access.
"Protecting Americans’ access to democracy has not been a partisan issue for the past 56 years, and we must not allow it to become one now," they wrote to the top four congressional leaders.
While the letter didn't name the bill, a Manchin aide said the senators are referring to the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, which aims to require states with a recent record of discrimination in voting rights to get federal pre-approval before changing their election laws.
The Supreme Court in 2013 gutted the formula established by Congress to determine which states are subject to the rule, calling it outdated. The issue has since languished on Capitol Hill, with Republicans uninterested in re-establishing a "preclearance" requirement, and GOP-led states around the country moving to pass restrictive voting laws.
The Manchin-Murkowski letter is designed to show that there is some bipartisan support for the cause of protecting voting rights.
It comes as Manchin faces progressive criticism for being the lone Democratic holdout on the "For The People Act," a sweeping bill that aims to allow more ballot access and that all states must follow. The Democratic-controlled House approved that bill but it hasn't taken up the bill named for John Lewis.
Manchin has insisted that any attempt to overhaul federal voting laws have support from both parties.
WASHINGTON — Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, wrote a letter Monday calling on Congress to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act, seeking to jump-start a debate on a bipartisan path to bolstering voting access.
"Protecting Americans’ access to democracy has not been a partisan issue for the past 56 years, and we must not allow it to become one now," they wrote to the top four congressional leaders.
While the letter didn't name the bill, a Manchin aide said the senators are referring to the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, which aims to require states with a recent record of discrimination in voting rights to get federal pre-approval before changing their election laws.
The Supreme Court in 2013 gutted the formula established by Congress to determine which states are subject to the rule, calling it outdated. The issue has since languished on Capitol Hill, with Republicans uninterested in re-establishing a "preclearance" requirement, and GOP-led states around the country moving to pass restrictive voting laws.
The Manchin-Murkowski letter is designed to show that there is some bipartisan support for the cause of protecting voting rights.
It comes as Manchin faces progressive criticism for being the lone Democratic holdout on the "For The People Act," a sweeping bill that aims to allow more ballot access and that all states must follow. The Democratic-controlled House approved that bill but it hasn't taken up the bill named for John Lewis.
Manchin has insisted that any attempt to overhaul federal voting laws have support from both parties.
quick-hands
Footballguy
Probably because its from two different states. Colorado assumed you moved. And no reason to have both from same state.
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The Commish
Footballguy
Looks like Manchin is showing his cards a bit....saw this on a BBC article:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017a-15e9-d33b-a37f-1defe4c70000
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017a-15e9-d33b-a37f-1defe4c70000
Republicans (the party of no -bipartisanship)just got played by Manchin. Submitting a voting rights bill and including the requirement of voter id in it. Stacy Abrahams say she supports it and McConnell rejects it.
The Commish
Footballguy
Haven't seen individual politician comments on this yet. Why is McConnell against it? Thought I had read that 11-12 GOP senators got on board with it.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/17/1007715994/manchin-offers-a-voting-bill-compromise-but-key-republicans-swiftly-reject-it
I think key opposition is that McConnell doesn’t want to see Biden and the Democrats have any legislative bills passed. It mandates early voting requirements of 15 days, makes federal elections a national holiday, bans partisan gerrymandering. I suspect that early voting mandate would allow too many voters an opportunity to vote and Republicans won’t say it but they know that is not a good recipe for GOP success.
The Commish
Footballguy
I can pick out probably 95% of what he doesn't like. I was just wondering if he dared to verbalize it.
Classic Mitch:
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Mile High
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Apparently Manchin is coming around on filibuster reform. He may be willing to at least lower the threshold to 55 and force the minority party to be present during a filibuster. I think the more he sees Republicans resist bipartisanship, the more he's going to be willing to reform the filibuster. He's not ready to abandon it yet but he saw the GOP refuse to vote for the Jan 6 commission (even after getting all/most of the changes they requested) and now their refusal to compromise on this. He knows bipartisanship needs to be a 2-way street.
Manchin Says He’s ‘Open’ To Lowering Filibuster Threshold To 55 Votes
The Commish
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Indeed.
As soon as Dems agreed to a nationwide voter ID plan, they couldn't run from it fast enough. Because it's always been about nothing other than voter suppression and they know there aren't any fraud issues that actually need addressing.
The Atlantic does a good job of explaining why we should support Manchin's bill.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I have no problem with Manchin's inclusion of the ID requirement, because he also names things like utility bills as valid proof of ID. One of the provisions of Biden's and Manchin's proposal though is the elimination of gerrymandering. Something we as voters should all embrace. But (imho) that would hurt the GOP more than the Dems.
I don't see Republicans agreeing to eliminate partisan gerrymandering. Or anything else that gives Biden a win.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Here's is the outline of Manchin's proposal. I'd like to hear what the objections are from the right.
The Commish
Footballguy
Maybe you'll have better luck....posted the same thing up this page and crickets.
